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Dave Elitch

lines on the record: 149
first: 2018-11-26
most recent: 2018-11-26
sittings or episodes: 1
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“Well, that was another thing, George, I'm like five, six on a good day, right? George is at least a foot taller than me, if not more. Yeah, he's very tall. He's probably like 6'9". Holy, yeah, he's very tall. I hate that.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And fill in. So, same type of situation. I have to learn all the music last minute. It's a big, really large venues, arenas. And I show up to Toronto, meet everyone. We have a line check on stage, which is you just make sure all the connections are working. We run through a couple songs maybe the best.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe it's not for family programming. I don't know. I don't know. But he was just like, dude, I broke my collarbone. Good recovery. Continue. So I was like, who knows, you know? So he was like, can you come out here?”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A real life situation, which is what I always try to talk about because that's the most important thing. So many people run into problems when they just hyperbole. So when I was out with the 1975, maybe a couple years ago, George, the drummer, I've been teaching him for a while, and he broke his collarbone on tour. So it was the same type of situation.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, there's plenty of situations where I go in doing the Dave Smash thing like in that Mars Volta video and they're like, holy shit, like Jesus Christ, like, get it restrained. Yeah, and it's too much. And they get freaked out. And it's just like, well, you know, I might not be that guy all the time, but that's definitely possible. Yeah.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've gone out for auditions for plenty of bands and I haven't gotten gigs. I mean, that's just how it goes. If you go in there, and again, you're really prepared. And you fully present yourself accurately. And they don't want it. It's not the right fit. What else can you do? You might think of, like, oh, I didn't get the gig. Like it's a failure. But what about if you, it's the same thing as dating, right? What if you present a fake version of yourself and then they like that, and you have to keep doing that? And then you're like, who am I?”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then see what happens. Someone could also say, like, Thinking about it in a sports analogy, you know, you could just be like, I'm just going to play the game and see what happens. Just let it happen on its own. It's not about winning or losing.”
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“Exactly. So, this to me, the way I would interpret this is I'm going to come in guns blazing and then try to work my way out of that because that's the biggest no-no. I'm going to do that on purpose.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, like, for me, the first way I would process that is, I'm just going to, a lot of times when you're building up solos,”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Finish the song, and then here's an So he was like, hey, dude, I just want to get some rad song enders. It was like, great, we can totally do that. And so I showed him a bunch of licks and we had fun. And this is the kind of situation that's great for these because people, after you work on phrasing, they, after about 20 minutes, they've played. Everything they know And then they're like, oh, what do I do now? So you could just pick something out of the deck. Like you just picked out give the game away and how you interpret that, you can go a number of ways, right?”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Could be hypothetical. So, you know, I do a lot of the body mechanics stuff with people, and I also have people who are just like, hey, dude, give me a bunch of cool, crazy licks to play in song enders. You know, that kind of a thing. I did that with Stacey, my buddy Stacey Jones, who's Miley's MD and drummer.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And with drumming, especially because you're keeping time for everyone, It's a very meditative state. A lot of people will. Count in between the notes and they'll be very precise about it and I've always tried to Be very zen about it and just feel the void. In between the notes that you're playing, it's a totally different ways of doing it. And depending on what you're doing at the moment, one could be better than the other. But yeah, man”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, yeah, with saxophone or something, you have to breathe every 15 or 20 seconds. So you have to have space. And that cliche Cliche thing of it's not about what you play, it's about what you don't play. It's cliche for a reason. It's really true. And that's something that I try to focus on a lot because if you have a lot of facility, it's very easy to just bar fall over the place and overwhelm everyone.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Drumming, you don't have to do that. You can play a million miles an hour forever And after two minutes, the listener wants to kill themselves.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I always think about them in terms of how I'm supporting music for the greater good, right? So a lot of times in an improvised context, these are very, very applicable. Because with an instrument such as drums or guitar, piano, or bass, where you don't have to breathe to play it, you run the risk of vomit chops. What does that mean? It means you can just play as much as you want. If you're playing a wind instrument, you literally have to breathe so that affects your phrasing. So you can pause.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure. Well, that's a whole other thing, right? Yeah. So there's a whole deck of cards that are very simple, minimalist. Suggestions, right? So the ones that you picked out You already said, but if you pick out just a few random ones.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I sort of clarified that. I feel like McLuhan and the medium is the massage. Well, he wanted to make something that sort of neither had a beginning or an end, and you could tune in and out of, and it didn't really matter. So he's a very interesting, brilliant person. And these are strategies when you're making anything. I mean, this is in the context of making music, but you can obviously apply them to anything. They're devices to knock you out of your present state of mind. Like you said, when you paint yourself into a corner, like, I got to get out of this.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, Brian Eno is a super famous musician. He's done a lot of different things over the years, but he was first famous with the band Roxy music. And he went on later to sort of pioneer ambient music? Yes. With music for airports.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, for sure Break for a while, and then he recently got back together with him, and they're just on tour right now doing their new record. Yeah.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Drumming technicians totally, so it's a totally different thing But he's very, very intelligent, great player, really great guy too. He's amazing. You guys would get along really well. Yeah.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that is out of your control. But again, you can sort of set the stage for it. So where he's coming from, because he's in a band that is huge, is totally different from someone like me who's a mercenary.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, his situation, we were just We were talking about this sort of last night. In certain situations, there aren't a lot of people you can talk to about certain things, right? So we were just kind of going back and forth at that type of thing. And the thing with him is he... It's still huge. And the thing with being in a, this is the thing that's uncontrollable in the music industry, or, you know, there's tons of parables here. I can work really, really hard, and it doesn't matter if my band makes it or not in a way that if you really hit the lottery, that's totally outside of your control. So they put in all the hard work, but that band hit the lottery.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and it was very, very, it was a very simple section. And I remember at sound check me like going, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here? This is like, and your brain is like, I need something to do. It's crazy. So I forgot why I got on that tantrum.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, like, for instance, you'll get to a certain part and you'll be like, why can't I play that? It's not hard to play. Like there was a guy I was working with who has played with like Janet Jackson for a year, a lot of people. He's a fantastic drummer. And he had like some issues with his foot. And he went to see someone in Atlanta, like a neurologist. And she had some helmet that he put on because we were looking at the technique, the physical issues. And I guess there were some parts of his brain that were like turned off. To control the foot, it's crazy. I don't know how that technology works, but your brain will fuck with you. There were times with the Mars Volta or with Miley or whatever where I would be like, oh, here comes this part. And it's like, ah, you're already dead in the water. Yeah.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. It's exactly the same thing. So, interesting, what starts happening is your brain starts creating weird quagmires for you to fall into Because it's bored.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's a massive production. It's like eight buses, 12 semis. The stage production is insane. I'm going up, up and down, above and below the stage. There's a huge video wall. She's riding a giant hot dog like 20 feet above the air in the arena. There's a lot of things that go on there. So you can't do anything different because the dancers will be like, oh, what just happened, right? So you have people playing the exact same thing, note for note for a year and a half, two years, and they start to lose their mind. Because it's so monotonous and repented. It's like,”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You'll take a break, do a new record. Yeah, but it's intense. And you're out with the same people, the same techs, that you're away from your family. It's pretty rough. And so something that happens to people is they're playing the same thing over and over and over again. I mean literally this note for note because if you're playing a pop like when I was doing Miley”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If it's something more improvised, that's a little bit more exciting. But there's something that happens that I have to help people out with who are on tours for a year and a half or two years and it's a pop context.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Even to the point where I'm doing these tours where I'm super stressed out and like, you know, you're walking in on stage in an arena for 15,000 people, Staples Center or whatever, and you're like, after a week, once I have the show done, I'm like, eh, whatever. Megan the donuts, especially if it's a pop thing because it's literally the same thing every...”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which I Take a stab at it. I said, anyone who says do what you love for a living and you'll never work a day in your life hasn't done what they want to do for a living.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because we were talking about it anyway, and he was like, Oh, have you read this book? That's sort of what it's all about. So it's in the queue. I haven't gotten to it yet.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No No, but I haven't read it yet, so I'm kind of talking out of my ass here. But he was saying it's incredible. How did you think?”
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“Or why do you recommend it? It basically goes way into that in terms of a scientific vantage point, like how all of that stuff works. It's very”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And with the thing I was talking about with Jimmy, he was like this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy down to the molecular atomic level. If you're operating from that state, things will unfold in that manner because you're working in that, not like the secret kind of bullshit. Like not that crap. But like, I have it, and he recommended this book to me, and I have so many books I have to read. Is it like on Becoming Yourself? It's super popular right now. I'll have to look it up.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I struggle with that quite a bit. I'm going to work harder than you are. And I'm going to be the first in and the last out. And if this guy can make it work, I can certainly make it work. So it's really that sort of a thing like I always say this to people I'm working with. I'm saying, look, you can have a good amount of innate ability at whatever you're doing, but the person who puts the work in is always going to surpass you. And if you have a little bit of innate ability, like I think I do, and you work harder than anyone else, obviously there's a certain amount of luck involved in anything, which you can't do anything about. But there was no other option.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He plays drum for the Smashing Pumpkins. And we were having breakfast a few months ago, and we were talking about the same type of thing. And he was saying, yeah, and people are like, man, this is great. Your band's doing so well, or you're doing all these tours and you're like, isn't that amazing? And I was saying, yeah, it's not amazing. I always knew I was going to do this. This is a surprise for me. I always knew this was going to happen. In a way, it's hard to get to the top of Mount Everest and be like, I did it because you're like, well, dove, of course I did it.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Mental fatigue mostly because you get to, we started talking about this last night, you get to a certain point where you check all the boxes of things that you've wanted to do, and I got to a certain point where I was like, I've done everything that I wanted to do career-wise Now, what do I do? Right. And also. I was talking to Jimmy Chamberlain about this. He's a good friend of mine, and I've been helping him out a little bit.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I used to make art, I used to draw a lot and do watercolors when I was a kid. And then when I started playing drums, like really young, like five, six, seven. And then when I started playing drums, I didn't do anything else. Like, it took my full mental capacity. So that sort of fell by the wayside. And then I hit a certain point in my career where, you know, if you just have those blinders on and you're a myopic about something because you're very, very focused and driven, you end up burning out eventually. And touring is incredibly stressful. So I hit a wall a few years ago and help. 34”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, a lot of times you're feeling the void, right? That's something that's a whole other topic, existential angst. But.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's all of that. And if we're just talking about consumerism, if I want to buy something, whatever it is, like a drink or a snare drum, which I buy a lot of. Or some art, which I also buy a lot of why I think, why do I want this? What's driving this? And a lot of times the answer is different than what you think it may be.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's four one hour episodes and it goes all the way up until the Clinton administration because this idea's stuff weaves its way into politics and all sorts. And it goes into other things too. So that completely changed the way I think about everything. I think about it every day.”
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“Yeah, it's called happiness machines. That's the first episode. And Adam Curtis has a really interesting style of making And he said, you know, these aren't really documentaries, they're kind of just things that I make. And they're almost like video essays or collages. And McLuhan talks a lot about that, presenting things as sort of a Star pattern of images because language is sometimes insufficient to convey the ideas. So it can be like a weird collage. Like you're like, what am I? Like I show this documentary to people like, what is this? It's really strange. And the music's really weird and bizarre. Which one are you talking about? Sorry, I'm talking about hyperneurs. Either one, anything he's made, anything Adam Curtis has made is the same style.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People wondering, and the duck, and what's interesting is you would think he would think he made himself famous via Sigmund Freud, but it was actually the other way around. He took all of his tactics and made Sigmund Freud into Sigmund Freud. Yeah, it's crazy.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, exactly. So he created focus groups and he created the idea of PR. This is all him. So this guy single-handedly shaped America as we know it. And of course, America affects everything else in the world up until recently anyway. And so Especially the world we live in now with Instagram and social media. He's maybe the most influential person I mean, in terms of society”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so what he talks about, he says, you know, once you drink coke instead of water, the excess is with us forever. You can't go backwards. So he did interesting things like having a bunch of women smoke cigarettes. There was some sort of subconscious phallic connotation with that. But at the time, women didn't smoke. And he hired like a bunch of attractive women to smoke in like a parader in public or something to get it like quote unquote trending. So, the idea, so bas”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. So the whole notion of you buying a pair of shoes to the expressed your inner self was single handedly formulated by him. So we think that's just always been around. But really before him, if people were thirsty, they drank water if people needed it, they would wear shirts for years. And as they... Dudes who I am a big fan of Slavojeze.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's literally that. So Ebra Bernays used some of these tactics that he pioneered in propaganda for World War I. And then after World War I, he was like, oh, well, we can use these in peacetime for capital”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My buddy Chris is a musician friend of mine, and he told me about it years ago. I think it came out in 2000, I think. I'd have to double check that. But the premise of Century of the Self is it starts with focusing on Edward Burnet's. So Edward Bernays was Sigmund Freud's nephew, and he took all of Sigmund Freud's theories on the subconscious and came to the conclusion that human beings are either savage animals that are going to rip each other apart, or they can be controlled and made docile via consumerism.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and then the pendulum will swing back, and that's why Adele was so successful, because it was real music. Really jacketing.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So I've done sessions where I'll go in and I think do a pretty good job and then I'll hear it back and I'm like, why did you even have me play on this? Because they just are lazy. It's more that just them being lazy and not going through and, you know, but people got used to hearing how quote-unquote perfect that is. And if someone hears something that rushes or drags or is a little bit not perfect, like, oh, this is weird. And so. A lot of things are beat detected to the point where it's just Totally artificial now.”
2018-11-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #348: Dave Elitch — How to Get Out of Your Own Way · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT