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David Pakman

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first: 2023-05-06
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“I say, why am I doing this? The jet lag, I've got to do this and that. And now if my guest host falls through, I should just stay and work. And I go, hold on. You do this every time. Just go. You never regret it. You learn something. You try something. I never regret the trip.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To me, the most interesting thing is that In getting closer to the next step of Space Exploration, we may well learn things that can then be used to improve circumstances here. For me, it's not one or the other. And I recently read a long piece about Why not Mars? Because it's terrible in every way for supporting life. Okay, so like that's one perspective. But still in so exploring, who knows what we might end up learning? So I'm big on it. I don't share the view of some on the left about it.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think space is super interesting, and there's people on both the left and right who for different reasons are kind of not into the whole space exploration thing. The people I hear from, the ones on the right think it's just kind of dumb. The ones on the left think it's an excuse not to fix problems here.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If it's not wokeism, it's hard to say. I actually think that If you believe that we are on an inflection point of sorts in changes to society and acceleration of technology, etc., I think it's really tough to know in 2090 what will actually be the biggest threat. So I don't know. It's so cliche to say nuclear and climate change and another pandemic.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is how you never do anything. And dozens of people who I've felt obligated to talk to on the phone because of a personal connection, I go through all the advice and I can tell they're not going to do it. It's already sounding too complicated. And so instead they'll sort of say, well, I got to get the right lighting in the right room and the best thing you can do no matter what you're doing is just start right away. And that applies in this business and in whatever else you're doing. If you want to learn a new thing, find a new hobby. The ability to get data right away about what's working, what's not working, and whether you even like this approach that you're taking is so valuable and it will allow you to iterate. And the sooner you do it, the cost to a change of direction will also be lower. If there's any, I don't do like self-help or generic advice type stuff, but the one thing that applies in so many situations is just try it right away and iterate from there.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Almost always, it's some version of start right away. And that applies in so many different ways. So if you're thinking about, oftentimes the context is people want to do what I do. And I always say, do not sit around for a year thinking about lighting.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the tweeting I care less about right now, unless blue becomes something unbelievable. I'm less worried about Twitter. But some of my audience members have been saying some of these tools, David, are getting good enough that we could clone your voice and also make it match video. And with scripts, you could just keep pumping out content even if you were gone. And I said, now that I'm interested in, that I want to learn more about.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If I died tomorrow, especially in a particularly fiery death. My YouTube channel would probably for a while generate more money because it would be like, oh my goodness, this person died in a terrible, what happens with a future revenue stream and all these different things. And it got me thinking about legacy and about the fact that people who do this sort of thing. It's kind of a new thing in a sense. And so, you know, if you work at ABC News, at some point you just retire and someone else fills in for you. How does my career wind down given? I don't actually know the answer. I'm not sure What is it I just one day stopped posting videos, but all my content stays up, getting fewer and fewer views? Or do I delete everything? I don't know. What is the legacy?”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the other day I went to the doctor and he said, you know, next physical, we're going to be talking about a lot of new things. And so I was thinking about it a lot that day. No, I mean, it's funny, I recently did a bunch of estate stuff. And when you have intellectual property, there's a question of like, okay, I have my assets, but also.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I can't think of one thing I would say about animal farm. And I read it again not that long ago, but I don't know what common sense. You kind”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, especially reading. I mean, it's, you know, if that's the bottom of the barrel I have these ideas where I'll go, you know, maybe for my next thing, I'll go from politics, which is so toxic. I'll go to travel blogging because there's so many travel bloggers I follow and there's so many interesting places. And then I go, wait a second, I like traveling and just hanging out. Now, traveling is going to be my job. And now I've got to bring two cameras with me and I've got to get shots and I've got to film my food. And I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to do what I'm doing. But then I'll travel when I want to take a vacation.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We are in such a privileged position to even be able to do this sort of thing, right? I have taken on projects and then it sort of sounds good or I end up doing it because there's some third party that brings the idea and I feel like I can't really say no or whatever. And then when I get in front of the camera or I have to write something for a while, I did a newspaper or column that I hated doing. I realized that I'm ruining the exact thing that I have worked to build, which is that I can just do whatever I want. Why am I doing this? And sometimes it takes me a week to realize it. Sometimes it takes me a year, but just don't do it. That's the in this case.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know exactly what you're talking about. My advice on that is don't do it. Just don't record it. And is that what you just basically did?”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The amount of information, insights into so many aspects of the human psyche that I can get, it's sort of like, it's not like I'm in a competition for anything in particular with anybody. I just do my show. But it's sort of like, if I'm reading dozens of books a year and you're reading zero, I'm exposed to so many different things and ideas that are not even in your universe. It just seems like the power of reading just seems overwhelming.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Victor Frankl's book is one I've read a bunch of times. And it's so short. And, you know, reading in general, I know a lot of people who read way more than I do. And I also know a lot of people who don't read at all. I mean, they haven't read a book since college, essentially. To me, it's almost like the amount I get from it, it's almost like a secret weapon where when I think, you know, in two or three or four hundred pages, which I can read in whatever, 10 days or however long it takes reading 30 pages a day.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Certainly for me narrative nonfiction has been a fantastic genre to learn not only about history but also about people and psychology and very often when people say I don't really read like what can you recommend to me that might be interesting depending on you know knowing them to some degree I'll give recommendations there. In terms of just things I picked up recently that I think are interesting I've been reading a bunch of Neil Postman. I read a Jenny O'Dell has a new book on time and the concept of like saving time, spending time, et cetera. She just published it. Super interesting. I just read Lansing's book about the Shackleton voyage in Antarctica in 1914, 15 and 16.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's so hard to. This is sort of like you win an Oscar and you want to make sure you thank all the right people. I read so much and have been reading for so long that it's really hard to say. But I think”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Honestly, with the baby. I can't do a garden this year. And I have a lot of travel coming up, so everything would die. But I did start to try to figure out gardening. If you're stressed by the toxicity of the social media world, gardening is a great hobby. It really is. But it is extraordinarily time consuming. So I have no garden planned this year.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. So I very much disagree with those who take the view that the US is this wonderful global police force that's spreading democracy and fixing problems very, very much wrong. I think where I've had disagreements with Chomsky in the past is more he seems to frame the US as a uniquely bad actor in some of these cases. And I think it's more an outcropping of the size and wealth of the US and less about uniquely negative intentions. And so I think that would be my general disagreement with Chomsky based on stuff I read a decade ago.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am not, it's been a decade or more since I've read any Chomsky and I don't keep up with everything that he has recently said. So I don't want to mischaracterize any of it.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Conflict between factions, whether it's what we currently think of as war, probably not. I mean, it seems as though the tactics will evolve and it will be less about missiles and I don't know where it's going to go. I don't know whether it's going to become more biological or cyber or certainly something we haven't even considered yet. But I think there will always be conflicts we would refer to in that way.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I used to have what I now believe is an extremely naive perspective, which is that if we somehow, if intelligent aliens arrived here, it would be so momentous for Homo sapiens that all of our differences would immediately be exposed to so insignificant. We would never fight again and we would realize that intelligent life. And then I spoke to people who deal in space exploration and other scientists and they all said, David, that's extraordinarily naive. There would be a period during which this was as momentous as you're imagining, and then it would become normal. And then we would go back to many of the same conflicts that we have now, sectarian, et cetera. I think that in all likelihood, there will always be”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“100%. There are people like Marjorie Taylor Green and others saying we should be doing nothing for Ukraine. Zelensky is a comedian and we're supporting neo-Nazis. That's it. Full stop. And you either subscribe to that or you don't. And it very quickly becomes as partisan as so many other issues. And it's really the most disappointing thing is that some of these issues become incredibly divisive, but they're simple. Like, for example, a conspiracy theory that we know isn't true. It shouldn't be divisive because it's so simple. Other issues become divisive and they are simplified, but in reality, they are extraordinarily complex, and you lose the ability to talk about the complexity because they're becoming partisan.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. I mean, to some degree, it requires Russian troops leaving Ukraine. And that is somewhat under the control. I mean, of course, it's not up to Ukraine whether the initiative continues. But what I am not thrilled with are some of the reflexive, you know, if Trump had been in power instead of Joe Biden, a lot of the reflexive comments about, oh, if you say Ukraine is just acting defensively, you're supporting neo-Nazis or some of these things that have come out of the American Republican Party seem both wacky and like they would be saying completely different things if Trump happened to be in the Oval Office. They're really proxy attacks on Joe Biden.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sometimes the most benign end seems to be that Putin ends up out of power, either through no longer being alive or deposed in some way. It doesn't feel like that ladder is super likely. The former, there's reports about his health. I don't know how accurate they are. It's just hard to imagine a face-saving exit that is going to be even remotely, what's the word? It's not even a question of acceptable, it's not satisfying either. Just not tragic, I guess, is what I'm looking for.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't pretend to be an expert on this issue. I think you probably know more about this than I do just from the brief conversation we had before we started filming. My view as a general observer of geopolitics and the way that this area, this part of the world is related to American presidents over the last several cycles is I don't think it's controversial to say that this was a war of aggression, an invasion of aggression, an act of aggression by Vladimir Putin. I do believe that if Trump had been re-elected Putin may have seen himself as having other tools with which to try to expand influence. May have been different than geographical pursuits, geographic pursuits. But we don't know that for sure. I also have a really hard time imagining what the end of this looks like. And that's very scary because”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know whether I go back and forth between believing that the US should play a big role to the US should play essentially no role whatsoever because of course of the funding of Israel that the US provides will the U, it's not that I have a personal problem with American involvement and somebody like Bill Clinton was arguably relatively well positioned to try to make something happen It's more just will there will it be seen as credible on the global stage? And that's I think the most important thing because at the end of whatever negotiation takes place both sides need to agree that this is where we are renouncing all past claims and in the future if there's a disagreement we can't go back to that thing from the 80s or the 90s that's just like a critical piece of this yeah”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To a lot of this minutiae, big picture though, if I imagine what the most likely solution looks like, it doesn't mean it's a perfect solution. And obviously it's a solution many people will say it's not going to happen. I think it's a solution where the borders are similar to what Some degree as many of the settlements as possible have to go understanding that some of the bigger ones are just not going to go and there's going to have to be meaningful land swaps with which Yasser Arafat seem to be amenable to when he weighed in on it. I believe it was in the 90s. The topic of the Temple Mount and Jerusalem, et cetera, is a complicated one, but I think that almost certainly East Jerusalem is going to have to be part of an eventual Palestinian state. You know, I mean, like we can go as kind of as far as we want to with a lot of this stuff.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. My view big picture is that I don't think we're going to really get anywhere until some pre-negotiated terms are set and the parties to do the negotiating are all good faith parties. For example, I don't think Israel's right-wing party is a particularly good faith arbiter of peace because I think Likud benefits from their not being peace and the threat of violence. And there is violence. It's not just the threat of violence. I don't think Hamas is going to be an arbiter of peace for the Palestinian people either. I think the Palestinian Authority is a question mark. I'm not sure. So I think that there need to be some preconditions that would need to be set with regard to everything from settlement.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know. I mean, I could say yes I could say yes. One of the problems is, and I'll give, you may not know, that there are people on the left of my audience who call me Netanyahu Shill. Even though I've never been a supporter of Netanyahu and I'm on the left, I just don't think that some of the kind of black and white characterizations about Israel are even remotely accurate. And I think most people, it's become a sort of litmus test. Are you criticizing Israel enough? Are you showing us that you're actually left-wing? I don't do any of that stuff. I really look at the situation for what it is.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a waste, it may be a waste to pursue the conversation further at that point. Yeah, I mean, yeah. What, oh, so, okay, you think Trump was a good president? How do you determine that, and what evidence might exist that would change your mind? There is no evidence. Trump was the best president ever. I think the conversation is probably done.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I completely agree with you, which is strange. You think it shouldn't. One of the really good opening questions that I've had. Work to my advantage when talking with people who I know disagree with me about a contentious topic is how do you think we would figure out X? And it often gets people thinking first collaboratively. Obviously, we might have very different opinions, but with something like the COVID Lab leak, I think it's an interesting one because if you say, okay, maybe it leaked, maybe it didn't, how would we figure that out? Who would we trust to weigh in on that? What evidence would count? Now we're kind of on the same team. And then, if we can establish that, then we're on a search for capital, truth together, or whatever, it's kind of pie in the sky, but in some conversations, I've actually had success with that.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The issue is with the bigger ones like you're talking about, where what do we mean by a fair election and fair in whose eyes? But I am with you that it often devolves into a conversation about opinions about what is fair. rather than an ascertainment of the facts.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so let me revise. So, I think maybe better said, I think that the difficulty I mean, the process you described is probably the right process and it's exhausting for mundane things and that causes major problems. If we were to say Is it better for the economy to have a tax rate on people making over a million dollars that's 20% or 50% Okay, what do we mean by better for the economy? It's not an overwhelming task to decide on that. We could say, well, we'll say it's better for the economy by looking at what was the unemployment rate based on the tax rate on million, you know, people earning a million a year and what was GDP and whatever. Okay, we've agreed. This is a statement. We are now in the realm of just determining what is given the parameters that we've established. I think that's relatively doable.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Will become continuously continue to get more difficult, especially with GPT. I think the big difficulty is in getting people to agree as to what is a statement of fact and what is a statement of opinion. I think once we can do that, reasonable people can more or less agree on how to get to the truth, or if we can't get to it, at least figure out how we would if the information were available. Someone will call in with an opinion but say they want to talk about fact. And I have to explain to them, you're talking about an opinion and not a fact. And this goes back to the lack of critical thinking and lack of media literacy. But that's the bigger challenge for me right now.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Process. I always try to get to a primary source first and foremost for the facts of the story, and then I'll use other tools for background research. Oftentimes Wikipedia's footnotes I find to be useful tools. ChatGPT is a good one. You really have to fact check it, but it'll give you ideas of where to do the fact checking, which I think is fantastic. Sometimes it gives me information that's flat out wrong. And when you ask for the source, it's like, oh, yeah, that actually is not real, which is, hey, part of the process. But, and then when there's like an expertise type of thing, if it's a breaking legal matter, I'll just call like a friend who's a lawyer or call a friend who's a doctor or something like that, if it lends itself to that. Ask about the nature of truth. Think is becoming more and more difficult to know what is true.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Everywhere. I have a bunch of subreddits that I follow that I think are talking about interesting things. I have a curated list for which I still use Twitter and it is very good for this. It's a curated private list of journalists that I think are doing interesting work, so I'll see what's there, look at the sort of standard news reporting wire services, AP and Reuters, glance at what everything from Drudge to CNN to whoever is covering that day, look at Google News. How do you try to fact check stuff on your own show?”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't know anyone else who's using it. It works really well. It's so fast and it takes up almost no space. So it just is a really good tool. When my team, when we book a guest and they have notes from the publicist, they'll put it in there and then I can access it. So I'm basically working off of notes rather than a script. I'll pull any audio visual stuff that I want so that that's available. And it's, I mean, it's really a very seamless, you know, we're doing this every day, four days a week. And so we have it down to a well-oiled machine. Ideas from”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Shows a week. I have the Letterman schedule, which means I do five shows in four days. I shoot Monday to Thursday, but we're doing five episodes. Basically, Our guests we schedule in advance. I'm picking six to eight stories each day that are, like I said, a blend of stuff I think will be interesting, things I want to talk about, and things where it's being discussed at one layer and I want to go deeper on it. And I feel like I'm able to do that. I choose those stories in the morning, record in the early afternoon, and we put the show out by that afternoon. What's the preparation? How do you take notes? Are you on a sheet of paper? No sheets of paper anymore. I used to do sheets of paper. I found something about it, like at work, the tactile nature of it. It became inconvenient for sharing the notes with my team. But basically, we use a wiki type system. It's called MediaWiki, which is basically like a Wikipedia clone. Old school. Yeah, old school. So we can have pages for every guest, every topic.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe include that in my assessment of how I want to tackle a certain issue if I missed a good point or something like that and basically try to move on. When something like we talked about at the beginning happens, it becomes obsessive. I mean, it's unhealthy, right? Where I'm going, oh my God, who's attacking me now and scrolling? It becomes, you know, I'm sweating. It's horrible. But I think just like limiting exposure to that and remembering that it is impossible to please everybody. And so I'd really rather have fresh, genuine views each day rather than views that are sort of like Restricted and flattened by what I perceive to be people's preferences. So just can you speak a little more to the full process of creating the David Packman show? Because you're doing...”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Until Monday, I try to completely tune out from news and politics altogether and also make an effort to just not look at feedback and what's going on. I also really limit my visibility. I don't need to read every comment. I don't need to look at every email or every tweet. I have 15 minutes each day where I go through my social media platforms, look at generally what is the reaction been.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm sure he's just not thinking of me. I'm not the most important thing to Joe Rogan. I think both of us would be able to sit down and talk about every one of my criticisms. It would not be taken personally. And then we would move on and it would be the next day. You get attacked a lot. How do you not let that break you ment Oof, I don't know. So let's see I try to, I mean, I'm in a toxic space. The news and politics, partisan news and politics, partisan news and politics on the internet with a social media component, just completely and totally toxic. From a personal perspective, when I'm done producing my last show of the week.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can't deny that that is absolutely a real phenomenon. And depending on what sort of topics you take on publicly, you are going to suffer the wrath of that to a greater or lesser degree. But with all of these things, what I always go back to is, you know, I probably would have more disagreements with Rogan today than the last time I was on his show, which was like at the beginning of the pandemic. But there would be zero, and I've done clips critical of things that he has said, substantive, of course. To me, it's sort of like, oh, yeah, I could sit down with him and do a podcast. And it would be zero big deal. And I would tell him I stand by everything I said about what you said. And I would say it to you right now. There are people who write to me and go, oh, man, things must be really, really tense now. If you were to, Rogan would never have you on because you disagreed. He loves you.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was very intensely. No, you're 100% right that when the left has attacked me, it's almost as vicious as when the right attacks me. The difference in my experience is it's a smaller contingent on the left that's willing to levy those attacks against me, but I'm on the left. So to some degree, you could say, well, that's to be expected. There is toxicity on the left.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure. Yeah, I mean, so for me, my thought on Elon is some incredible successes. I don't know about Twitter. I do think that I don't believe Elon is a right-winger. And when you see interviews with him, certainly, at least socially and in many ways culturally, seems very moderate or even somewhat on the left in my experience. I don't think it's, Elon's a right winger. That's not an interesting critique. It does seem, though, that throughout the Twitter escapade, he certainly ended up closer to some voices that maybe influence him in a particular way that's giving some people that impression, you know. But as far as like the Elon Hate or the Elon love, it's just a person who's done some interesting things, some of which I like and some of which I could kind of leave aside.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure, other people go, wow, this for you thing is awesome. And I'll give if you had insert some right winger sitting here, they would go, Twitter used to suppress right-wing voices, and now finally they're getting the fair shake that they deserve in the fur you feed. Okay, I mean.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Way Twitter used to work you followed people and when you looked at your feed you either saw the posts from the people you were following in reverse chronological order Or posts from the people you followed algorithmically tailored to what you're most likely to want to see. And if you didn't follow someone, you generally wouldn't see their post unless it was like a sponsored tweet or someone you follow quoted or retweeted them. Fine. The for you feed, TikTok, I believe first had a so-called for-you feed. The idea is this is stuff you might like based on, I don't know what, either demographic data about you, your other habits, whatever. And so it's useless to me. It's just basically mostly right-wing content that is not interesting to me.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's just like we're doing this right now. You can compete, or you can opt out and look at what's happened. Fantastic. On the Twitter side of things, I don't really get the whole plan. I don't know if it started maybe as kind of a goof of some kind. And it developed into, I guess I have to buy it. And I think something about it ended up with there was a clause invoked where I think he did try to get out of buying it, but then was forced to to some degree. Yeah, he was forced.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Run. I'm on my second Tesla right now. I probably won't get a third one because I think that electric vehicle technology is now maturing such that when my lease is up, I'm going to have many more options with the range and charging network that's important to me. But I could be wrong. Maybe, you know, I don't know. I have no, the cults of personality around people, they mean nothing to me. So for me, it's just like people are people. Nobody has only good ideas. Fine. I think that what Elon Musk did accelerating and pushing forward, the battery and electric vehicle technology is unbelievable. It's a one person wrecking ball in the best sense of saying, we're not going to slow play this and do, okay, now Toyota has a Toyota hasn't actually entered, but now whoever we've got a 90 mile range car and next year it'll be 110.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was the idea. That was the idea. It's an interesting idea. Honestly, for my experience, obviously I was seeing all sorts of attack comments, some of which were, I'm sure, from bots. But I'm ignoring all of those comments anyway. So it really didn't affect my experience that much. I mean, here's the thing about Elon. And I say this. People sometimes like, David, you obviously hate Elon or you obviously love Elon. an investor in Tesla starting in 2015. I've since sold all my shares.”
2023-05-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #375 – David Pakman: Politics of Trump, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Socialism & Wokeism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source