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Dick Costolo

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  1. Could kind of do the Steven Miller guy. You could do Stephen Miller. You could do Stephen Miller. He seems an easy mark, too.

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  2. They could do some different age. Some things could happen. Some things could happen. Lauren Michaels, Ducaslo is free and ready to come on Saturday Nive. You'd be good. Who could you play? You could play Stephen Miller.

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  3. Would have been your dream. I would have loved to have been on SNL and then from there on there have gone and done, you know, either shows that I was seriously deeply involved in or films. SNL was the thing that I was like laser focused on in my 20s trying to get toward and I just wasn't able to do it.

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  4. Where would you be right now? I made it instead of being aspen? Yes. Yes. No, no. Where would I be right now? You made a lot of money along the way, for goodness sake.

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  5. But you are very funny. You have to know that. And again, just because it's a low bar in Silicon Valley doesn't mean you're not funny. And so like that, do you wish you had done another, if you had made it, where would you be right now?

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  6. Can't I do it again? I do it. I buy the New York Times every day. That's better, right? Better, better. Anyway, so that was unintentionally fun. I mean, it was a joke, and I appreciated it because when robots make jokes, I try to laugh to encourage them. All right, Dick, this is going to be a great month. We're going to talk about comedy, where it's going, and we're going to have lots of interesting guests.

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  7. Yeah, we're in the joke. So we're at a journalism event that is, I don't really recall. Anyway, Menlo Park High School opened this amazing journalism facility run by Esther Wajisky, who's we're not going to go into that. All those relationships. And I was talking about it with Larry about journalism and stuff like that. And I was like, you should buy the New York Times. You know, like that someone should buy the New York Times. This is pre-Trump, pre-everything. Like someone's got to fund this thing.

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  8. But in general, this is sort of an upbeat, funny looks at things and can find the humor that makes eyes for them. I think as a company is facing.

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  9. Because he is very calm and thoughtful. So everything slows down to a calm and thoughtful pace. And you find yourself, your heart rate goes down to about 45 minutes. Exactly.

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  10. You've been dying to say too soon in an Ariana accent for hours. I have, but too soon. On the way in this morning, you were like, too soon. No, that's not quite right. That's too German. Too soon? No, that's too Russian.

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  11. Think about me. I moved on to make it an RA thing. Give me an RE. So she was saying, so I said, I can't believe you said that he meditated in a pregnant woman's nursing room that doesn't work with the brand right now. It's like all this extra accident. And she goes, oh, I meant it as a joke. And I'm like, well, it's not funny. She goes, too soon. You've been dying to say too soon an Ariana accent for hours. I have, but too soon was my favorite.

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  12. Oh, they don't? No, they can stay there. Watch them. You just have to watch them. Well, when I watch them, they're like, look at me. Think about me more. And then I do. And then I'm like, I can't sit here. I got to get an RA thing. Give me an REST.

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  13. In the meditation room, she's meditating in a nursing, in a women's nursing room where women do nursing, pregnant women nursing room. Okay. So that's where he was doing his meditation, which is so funny on so many levels. The concept of it. And I was like, that isn't

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  14. I'm spinning it in here. That's true, but she goes from whatever party she's at to the car and then to the hotel. Doesn't need a coke. Doesn't need a coat. Coats are for walkers. Like myself, I had a giant walker coat. I think we were in Germany at the time, but it was after she had talked about Travis.

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  15. What are you talking about? I'm not going to get out. I get in and out. I go right into the places you never. No, you're getting out. I'm spinning in here. That's true.

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  16. No, I get that, but she's always in car and she doesn't wear coats because she always has a car. I'm like, why don't you have a coat? It was in the winter. What are you talking about? I'm not going to get out. I get in and out. I go right into the places she never. No, you're getting.

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  17. After we, of course, are done, I'm going to get texts from like 40 people saying, you didn't mention me? I'm the funniest person you know. By the way, it's always the people who are like, I'm funny. You're like, right? Those are always the people. You're like, I'm trying to think around. There's not that many.

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  18. Cringing. I can't even wait to hear what this people. Who am I going to get in trouble with John Zimmer? Really want Lovely. A lot of earnestness That's it. It's over for him. I know. We thought it was down for him who doesn't even know it.

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  19. Yes, I am. No, but you were great. And we were there and we were with the guy from, I forget who was there, there was a whole cringing. I can't even wait to hear what this was. And then John Zimmer came over and he was to start to tell me about the 80% of the cars aren't in use. It was right when Lyft sort of started, right? And Uber was around to and Uber was hyperaggressive. Travis was running it. And he was super earnest about the creation of Lyft. And I really wanted to start this because 80% of cars weren't in use. And he's a super earnest guy. He's lovely. A lot of earnestness. So is Logan over there? Both of them are just so earnest. And they're lovely people, I have to say. And he was like, and 80% of the cars, we've got to save the planet. And like on and on. And he meant it, every friggin Morty was saying. And he walks away and you go, Travis is going to kill him.

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  20. Okay, all right. You would have the best joke I've ever seen. One of the best jokes you've ever told in Silicon Valley, we were at a dinner for Jep Zucker that I threw. Oh, I don't even have any idea.

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  21. Travis is not funny, right? I don't know, B There's a lot of people named Baz all of a sudden. It never happened before. Now there's like nine of them. They're like, have you met Baz? I'm like, Jesus, where'd this name come from? There was no one named Baz. This Bosg. No, they're all these Baz.

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  22. Yeah, she owes me now for calling her out on Meg Whitman's so funny, right? I don't know Meg well enough to know whether she's funny or not. She doesn't seem funny. It's hard to tell when you first meet people because they like give you this sort of, they give you their sort of like initial taste. Any uber?

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  23. You're right It's a good one. I pulled one out there for you. Yeah, you did. Bomb Ford is good. That wasn't what you were not. He's a clown funny. He's a clown.

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  24. You know what I like about him? He answers questions. He's legitimately funny. He answers questions which I appreciate. He never doesn't beat around the bush. He does not. I like that. Jeff Bonfort at Yahoo. Oh, he is funny, but he has.

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  25. Five of whom I don't know. Jack All right, you say so. I know you're going to give me a record. Unfunny. He's not actually, you know what I like about him? He answers questions. He's legitimately funny. He answers questions which I appreciate. He never doesn't beat around the bush. He does not.

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  26. Plays it's doing a really good job. He's doing a good job of playing the rich person first person. He's done the house. He's in on the joke. Okay, all right, good.

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  27. I heard another person the other day say, Well, there's this left Silicon Valley because there's this growing McCarthyism. I just haven't seen that at all. Yeah. So, I don't know where that's coming from.

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  28. Feels weaponized rather than tell you though there's this I mean maybe I'm just not in the same I haven't been in any group of people where I thought that I'm being made fun of or mocked for saying something. I haven't seen that at all. I just haven't seen that.

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  29. I'm sad and I'm earnest. I'm going to finish up getting back to Sunbao because just this weekend, Sam Altman wrote an essay that was very indignant about how they couldn't say anything. Like there's this whole idea that nobody, you're saying that you can say anything, you can joke about anything. And there's a lot, there's a pushback or a backlash that now we can't say what we want. We can't behave like juveniles all the time to me. Who can't say what we want? All these, you know, the white guys of Silicon Valley. Now they're being stopped because now there's some problems with sexual harassment or treating women in a certain way or the gender issues like James DeMoore. That was his complaint. He can't say what he wants anymore, which is different than comedy, which should always be attacking, like attacking and making fun of and making light of things.

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  30. Is a good way to go to Cod Tapes America guys. I think that's great. It's much better than, you know. The sort of anguished earnestness that you're like, well, I'm sad and I'm earnest and then you don't get either the true real indignance or the satire and the hilarity of it.

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  31. No one's going to suggest something crazy. So I like that about those rooms. All of those people, even when they're making fun of like some topic that you think of as like, oh my gosh, you can't talk about that. They also understand how horrible that thing is. That's why folks like Kumail and a bunch of the cast of Veep and Timothy and JLD in particular are so great on Twitter is they can both make fun of it and comment on the horror of it at the same time. And I think that that's important.

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  32. But Yeah, I mean, to me, that stuff is horrible all at the same time. In the comedy world, one of the things I love about the comedy world, and as an example, I'll use the Silicon Valley Writers Room. Nothing is off limits, like really no topic, when you're with a group of just comedians talking about themselves and talking amongst themselves rather and writing, you know, putting a show together, for example, there's nothing that's off limits. And I think that's great for when you're, you know, trying to really come up with edgy comedy. You can't be writing in a room where it's, well, we can't say anything about XYZ. I mean, to be perfectly frank, that's how one comes up with the, how about if the two horses are having sex, you know, idea, if it gets to be the point where people can't talk about things.

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  33. I think that discovery is so much more amenable to not having to be alone in a car driving around the country for nine months at a time. For one. And I think that the country is now much, much more accepting of I'm going to, I'm excited to hear these sort of not just gender diverse, but ethnically diverse points of view and understanding of the fact that an ethnically diverse point of view can also be a very American point of view. That's one of the great things about, God, I'm really doing it. Kamail is going to owe me a bunch of money for this. They're going to be. I mean, it's a great American movie, and yet this immigrant story all at the same time.

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  34. On TV and everybody else's, you know, these funny guys that the show is built around. I think we're not going to ever go back to that now.

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  35. It's not just going to be guys on the comedy circuit anymore. As I was saying at the very beginning of this discussion, the volume and quality of women, American women in comedy right now is extraordinary. And it's awesome. And I don't think that's going to, I don't think we're going to go back to the days of, oh, there's one or two women who were allowed to be on.

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  36. I think where it's going is that it, I mean, this is a demographic comment. I think where you're going is you're going to see in the US specifically a much more gender-balanced comedy scene than was the case 10, 20, 30 years ago. And a much more ethnically balanced comedy scene than was the case 10, 20, 30 years ago.

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  37. Yeah, and if they could make, I think if they get to the point where they can make the money they want to make there, right, they'll do it, whether they can do that, whether that is going to be something that can happen long term or only happens via short-term YouTube subsidies. We'll see.

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  38. Yeah, I do, and then you see them do, and then you see them do that. That's where the money is, and as long as that's the case, that's where the money is, that's what they'll try to go do. If you can end up getting the big audience, you know, like a bunch of the YouTube stars have an immense audience.

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  39. Is it going to have a part? I haven't used it in that long. But do you think the reason I'm asking this because you could imagine the way there are YouTube stars that it's just for that? You think they're trying to move somewhere else?

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  40. I think most of these people are trying to parlay that into parlay that into parlay. How about that? I like the word parlay.

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  41. Traditional stuff So there's nothing. The reason I'm asking is there's nothing like Twitter comedy. Just like this is where I'm going to be funny. Like there's been, there's, you know, you guys had Twitter celebrities. You had Vine when Vine was around. You have Instagram celebrities.

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  42. I think some of the short form stuff is still a vehicle to get people to see the more traditional stuff. Traditional stuff. I don't think it's yet changing as a medium. Most of the digital stuff is to get you.

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  43. Movies, but it's not, they're not creating new genres because we were just talking previously at another interview about the changing nature of journalism, how it's changing, how it's delivered. Like you can't do these long text stories. They don't work on mobile. Do you feel like comedy is changing as a medium?

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  44. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You think it is? The goal is still to, well, I would say the goal is still TV, you know, and by TV today, I mean like Netflix, HBO, network TV, or movies. That's the goal. And for stand-ups beyond that, you're getting your own HBO standup special. But that's for sure still the goal. I don't think. I don't think comics are yet thinking of it. And the, you know, if all goes well, I'll make my own digital show and like put it on, get it on Facebook watch. They're not really thinking, they're still thinking TV, whether it's network or over the top and movies.

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  45. I think it just gives many more people access to being able to be discovered and successful who aren't either willing or able to drive around the country for months and months and months at a time.

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  46. You don't have to get in a car and drive around. You don't have to. You still can. There's lots of great stand-ups. But the ability to be discovered through digital now, through just doing things in your living room and being able to get those easily, cheaply, inexpensively produced shorts and get those out there, connect on some of these services like Funny or Die to people who are doing interesting things is just allowed the discovery aperture to mean that much more broad.

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  47. Yeah. And if you got on SNL, that was one path to fame. And if you were on stand-up comedy circuit, you hopefully got invited. To the Montreal Comedy Festival. And if you were invited to the Montreal Comedy Festival and you were seen there, that's where all the agents were. And they got picked up. You got your half hour sitcom, Roseanne Barr, et cetera. Now...

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  48. Improv Olympic or the Annoyance Theater, and from there tried to get on Saturday night Live. And those were kind of your two choices.

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  49. Yeah, the way you used to, the difference between then and now was there used to be kind of like only two paths to be successful. Really, sure there's probably some third path, but there are really only two ways you could be successful in comedy and either get on TV or get in the movies. You could either be a touring stand-up comic, and that meant you're playing it the like the comedy hole, you know, the laugh pit, whatever the name of the thing is in Des Moines, Iowa. And then on Wednesday, I'm flying to, you know, I'm not flying probably, driving to Detroit where I'll be playing it, the laugh factory and on Thursday in Pittsburgh at the chuckle shack. I mean, really, like it's these comedy dives, you know, dark bars where the comics getting half the cover at the door as pay and then driving into the next town. That was either had to do that or you literally went to Chicago, tried to get into Second City or

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  50. I imagine it is lots to do with Trump because that stuff, I mean, Baldwin and everything else that everyone's done around the Trump administration on SNL plays so well and is such a relief from the horror of the week's news. And Alec Baldwin is so, so good at it, as was Melissa McCarthy. The genius of having Melissa play Sean Spicer. I don't remember who it was specifically in the writer's room that had that idea, but it's just that kind of stuff's been amazing and probably directly due to the new administration.

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