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“This life thing makes the world go round. I mean, without love, I mean, what have we got? I mean, we don't have. We don't have family and We certainly have missed out if love is not a central part of our existence. But stop asking me questions like that.”
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“But I try to have an impact on the world that I'm a part of and try to leave a legacy that's dignified. You know, I mean, I could give some flowery words to truth-seeking and whatnot.”
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“I think we lived, we try to live well and meaningfully within our time. We bond, we reproduce, we try to pass on, and we accept our limitations and our mortality. We try to contribute. And that's through our children and through our work. And we're in this together. We're not in this alone. We are connected to other people. I get a lot of gratitude out of teaching. I'm a teacher. My students are going to outlive me. They're going to have students. I'm a writer. My writing is going to outlive me. I don't want to be self-important or pretentious here. I doubt that I'm going to be the James Joyce of the 21st century. They may not be reading my stuff in 100 years as people will certainly be reading Ulysses in 100 years.”
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“I'm with Lucretius there. I mean, there is no magic that's going on here. There's no unseen hand behind the scene that's arranging things. What I believe is that when I look at the natural world, I see the evolution of the species. I see the organic development of the planets. I mean, the Earth is going to not exist in a finite number of years. I think with a very high probability, the Sun is going to die. It's going to implode. It's going to go supernova or whatever is going to happen. And it's not going to be any there, there.”
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“That is not the end of my death is not the end of life. I have lived well and fully. I will go and do my best right up until the end. I will accept what is inevitable, and I will hold out this belief. And he's a Christian minister, so he holds out this belief. And he knows that the belief is not rational. It's not a reasoned deductive scientific conclusion. It's spiritual in the most fundamental way. It is something that people hold on to and they have hope. And he had hope. I don't know if I have that hope. Used to be, but I'm no longer a Christian and I'm no longer a theist, really.”
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“Get into theology stuff here. But I'm saying all that to say. I read that book aloud to my wife, Linda, as she lay dying in that bed. I read that book. And it was filled with hope. I mean, it first acknowledged the dread. I lie dying. I don't want to die. I'm a Christian minister. Christ was raised from the dead. I'm supposed to believe in everlasting life. But the fact of the matter is this is me and I'm lying here and I'm dying. This is the end of me. Are you going to do anything other than dread the end of me? So let's acknowledge that I don't want to die, okay? I'm just going to tell you that up front.”
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“He had stomach cancer, and he thought he was dying, and he wrote this book as he lay dying. And then he recovered, went into remission, and he had another couple of years. He thought he was dying and he had another couple of years. And I can remember meeting him at a bookstore in suburban Boston when he was on a tour. This was a friend of mine, a theologian and a public intellectual. He founded the Institute on religion and public life in New York City, which still exists. Richard John Newhouse. And he's contemplating his own death from the point of view of a Christian minister. He was a first a Lutheran pastor, and then he converted to Catholicism or as he would have put it, I returned to the church because he thought the Renaissance was over. I mean, I'm sorry, the Reformation Richard thought was over. He says there's only one church, you know, etc.”
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“I watched her suffer and I watched her die, and I don't want to suffer. Who does? I don't want to die. I am likely to die before I die. I am likely to see my death coming and to lament it. There's a book by Richard John Newhouse, the theologian called As I Lay Dying, As I Lay Dying, Richard John Newhouse.”
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“And therefore, live every day fully live every day purposefully, you know, and so on. But these are all just words. I don't want to die. I want to live forever. I'm not going to live forever. I don't want to suffer. I see people suffering. I saw my late wife, Linda Datchelowi, Dr. Linda Datcher Lowry Professor of Economics at Tufts University, whom I met in graduate school at MIT, black woman from Baltimore, We married, we raised two sons together. She died at the age of fifty nine from metastatic breast cancer, and I watched her suffer and I watched her die, and it took a while. And we care for her at home right up until the very end. She died in our bed, with our sons on either side of her, and the dog curled up by the door, the porch door in the bedroom, and she expired.”
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“Yeah, Stephen Greenblack, a magnificent book, and a terrific story. Anyway, one of Lucretius's points, he was an atheist. I mean, he was a Roman. I mean, he didn't believe in mysticism. And he argued it's irrational to be afraid of death. Why should I fear death? Death is coming to all of us. The point of being afraid, I mean, I'm wasting my time fearing something that I have no ultimate control over. It's irrational to be afraid of death.”
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“I'm afraid. Now, I read this wonderful book called The Swerve. It's about Lucretius. It's about the nature of things, which is this great classical work from the Roman period by this guy Lucretius. And I'm trying to think of the name of the author, but you could look it up. The swerve is the book. It won like a National Book Award or Pulitzer Prize. And it's the history of the recovery of this book. By one of these Italian Renaissance Italian people who would go into the monasteries in Central Europe and look through the scrolls and they discover these classical works from antiquity which had been lost through the Dark Ages and they re publish and read these works. And Lucretius' great work. The nature of things was one of these books. I don't remember the Italian guy's name, but this all could be looked up.”
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“My death is a part of my life. And I thought, you know, well, I want to take better care of myself than I do, you know, et cetera, et cetera. But I also thought a lot of this is not in my hands at all. I thought one should have his affairs in order. My brother did not have all of his affairs in order in the sense that there is a lot of things are going to probate. There was no will. It's kind of unsettled. I don't want that to happen to my surviving family members. I want to have my affairs such that should, heaven forbid, I fall over one day and don't get up again. People don't have to scramble about how to take care of things from that point forward.”
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“First of all, I wondered what would I say? What would I say? And there was no way to prepare. And I decided, you know, I rehearsed in my mind this, you know, straight back, he had broad shoulders. He had a big heart. He had a great mind. He had a capacious spirit and whatnot. And I use that as a template for making my remarks. But my main thought was, my God, life is precious and life is fleeting. And death is a part of life.”
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“Yeah, it was a powerful mine and he studied, he read books. He was interested in music and art. He's a spiritual seeker, had been ordained as a child minister in his youth. And while he remained a master of the Christian canon, he also explored Eastern religion and other spiritual paths and kind of stood above any particular tradition as a man who believed in God but thought that God manifest himself in many ways to human beings and that there was much to learn from other religious traditions as well. This is Wesley. We called him Wesley by his middle name, Eugene Wesley Smith. May he rest in peace. 68. That's five years younger than I am right now. He dropped dead without any warning. I could too.”
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“I spoke well of this great man. He was a great man. He had a straight back. He was a stand up guy, he could be counted on. His word was his bond. He had broad shoulders. He carried a lot of people with him, business associates, family members, and so forth and so on. He had a huge heart. He was a giving and kind person. He had a great mind. He was an intellectual, even though as a businessman, much of his day was taken up with minutiae of contracts and the details of the order being delivered and not being delivered of the quality of the product, of the financing and so forth and so forth.”
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“That responsibility has now fallen to the family, but mainly to the surviving son who lives with his wife and his two young children and has assumed the responsibility. They've cared at home. My sister and her husband, Wesley, Eugene Wesley Smith, cared for their disabled sons. At home, they didn't want to see them institutionalized. They had some help from programs at the state and social worker and so on, but they mainly took on the burden of caring for them at home. Anyway, I go on at length here, and I don't know how much of this you'll choose to make use of, and it doesn't matter really. I'm just trying to respond to your question. I was asked to offer some remarks at the funeral. I offered them. And I, you know.”
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“He had three sons, one of whom is in his early 30s, two of whom are in their late 30s. These are my sister's children. She's deceased. Now he's deceased. The older two sons are severely developmentally disabled. And although they're in their late 30s, they're not independently viable. They don't function effectively. They have to be cared for.”
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“Well It is really interesting coincidence that you'd pose me that question. Because I'm coming from a funeral. Today is Sunday. On the preceding Tuesday five days ago, I was at the funeral of Eugene Wesley Smith. Who was my brother in law? He was my sister's husband. My sister Lyonette passed away in August of twenty twenty one. Her husband has died at the age of sixty eight. April of 2022, and I was at his funeral. He died suddenly of a heart attack that came completely out of the blue. He seemed to be in perfect health. He was a magnificent human being. I could go into the details, but Take my word for it. He was a businessman, a steel trader, a metals trader. He would buy and sell. He worked mostly from his home office. He had clients, counterparties, people he did business with all over the world”
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“Me just mention the great Ralph Ellison, the African American writer Invisible Man is his masterpiece, embodied this spirit. Okay, we black Americans, we do come from somewhere that come from somewhere is from slavery in America. That's our ancestral heritage. But that's not what we are. Skin and bone, these are superficial things, the spirit. And if I were a more religious person, I could give a whole disposition about that. But it's the spirit. It's that light that's inside. That's who we are. And our challenge is to live in the fullness of it as opposed to this blinkered thing. When we don't look left, we don't look right. We're just fitting within this template that we inherit. That is a travesty, really.”
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“Wear it lightly. Yes, everybody comes from somewhere, but it doesn't have to be where you end up. So you're not your father, you're not your grandfather. You are this wonderfully blessed human being in the middle of going into the middle of the 21st century and don't miss it. Don't live blinkeredly. Don't live small. Live big.”
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“I'd say your identity, your coloration, your orientation, your category is not the most important thing about you. So the temptation to limit yourself, I give this speech to my kids, I say, I quote James Joyce. He has a passage in Portrait of an artist as a young man in which he says. Do you know what Ireland is? Ireland is an old sow that eats her pharaoh. This is Joyce. He says Stefan Daedalus is the character that he has in mind in this chronicle. He says, your ethnic inheritance, he's talking about Irish nationalism. Like nets holding you back. That your challenge is to learn how to turn those nets into wings and thereby to fly flying into the open skies of modern society. Don't be your grandfather. Don't be your father. Don't wear your things so heavily that it keeps you from being open to everything that's new in the world.”
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“Well, I'd say The world is your oyster. I mean, first order business, you're not a victim. I don't care what color you are, I don't care. You're male, female, you're gay, straight, whatever. The world is your oyster. You are so privileged you sit here in the United States of America, a free country, a rich country. Everything is possible for you. Believe me, you can do anything. Okay. Secondly, I would say mastery over the medium in which we're embedded. Is the key to the future. So get educated, focus, work hard, you know, invest in your future by acquiring the skills that you need to be able to navigate the 21st century. I would say the Chinese are coming, and I don't mean anything against China. I just mean to say the world's a small place and it's getting smaller. You better get moving and you better get moving quickly.”
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“Exactly antithetical to what he's doing. He's a custodian of the law, not a popular figure in American policy. He doesn't stand for election, and it's a good thing too. So I take that point. Here, I want to say something else, though, that's provocative. The next black president, you say first black president shouldn't have been the one to do that. The second one should is more likely than not going to be a Republican. I don't have a particular person in mind. I'm just saying.”
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“His example should be an inspiration to Americans of all races, but especially a black American youngsters. He happens to be conservative. Very conservative So fucking what? He too deserves to be in that pantheon. He is not. By the custodians of American education, Clarence Thomas' name is not on that many schools. Barack Obama's name will be on many of them. I'm not equating them. They're different people. The officers are very different. But the same logic that you just used to extol the significance of Barack Obama's ascendancy could and should be applied to Clarence Thomas, in my opinion.”
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“Obama is a smooth operator without any question. He's a master of. I mean, he beat Hillary Clinton in that primary fight. And he beat John McCain in that general election and hats off to him. And moreover, he remains an iconic figure in American culture. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Let me just mention. Clarence Thomas is also black. Clarence Thomas has a story that is vivid and inspiring, just like Obama's story. He overcome obstacles, just like Obama did. I mean, extreme poverty and so forth and so on. Clarence Thomas has served longer than any other member of the United States Supreme Court. He is one of nine justices, and it's three equal branches of government. So Clarence Thomas, by my arithmetic, personifies 127th. Of the American He is. Iconic figure.”
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“It was in his second term where most of what I'm talking about happened, so he wasn't facing further election. But Obama was, what, 46 or 47 when he was inaugurated. He served for eight years. So he's in his mid-50s. He's got another half century or 40 years of life, God willing. His post presidency, I think, was what was primarily on his mind. Not getting elected to anything, but being enshrined in a certain way. The persona that he is now embodying, which depends upon a racial narrative that I and Thomas Sull and others object to, I think was very much in the forefront of his mind when he made decisions as the chief executive officer of the country that we've all now have to live with.”
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“Get their asses off the street and go back to their apartments and stop it. I think he could have said in the aftermath of Michael Brown being shot dead by Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Missouri, and there was a grand jury deliberation that elected not to indict Officer Wilson. And people took the streets in that city and stood on top of vehicles and so forth and so on. He could have told them, we don't mob around courthouses in this country. We respect the rule of law. Get your butts off the streets and back into your apartments. He didn't do that.”
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“Think the story that systemic racism in America as reflected in policing that terrorizes black people because of the color of their skin is demonstrably false. I think that the central threat to black lives is violent crime perpetrated largely by black people against other black people. I think there is such a thing as police brutality, and I think there are reasons to have regulations of police, but I think it is a second order issue in terms of the quality of life of African Americans. I think Obama could have told the people who, after Freddie Gray, died in police custody in a van in Baltimore and who undertook to burn that city down.”
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“If I had a son, he looked like Trayvon. I deeply regret that he said that. He's president of the United States. The color of his skin and the color of Trayvon's skin, the correlation between those two things, if I had a son, he looked like Trayvon. Now he says when he said it, he only meant to sympathize with the parents. But in fact, when he said it from the highest office in the land, and then sent his attorney general Eric Holder out to enforce this narrative, he doubled down on a racial narrative that I think is actually false.”
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“Race relations got set back during Obama's tenure. My beef with Obama is that, okay, you're black. You say you're black, you're black. You got elected. Now we have a black president. A black president. You can do stuff that nobody else could do. You're a black president. You could tell the people burning down the city to get their butts back in their houses and to stop it. You could tell the race hustlers they all sharpens of the world Not only has our time come for those who supported my campaign, your time is over for those who want to carry on a advocacy rooted in racial grievance. The election of myself to this highest office proves that the institution of the state are legitimate and open to all comers. I think Barack Obama, when the SHIT hit the fan”
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“I mean, I think in retrospect, that whole campaign looks like pie in the sky kind of fairy tale. We are the ones we've been waiting for. I can't quote exactly that speech that he gave in Grant Park in Chicago when he was announced as the winner of the election. But today is the day that the rise of the ocean stopped words to this effect. I mean, those who doubted that we could do it tonight is your answer. This was going to be a new day. It was going to be a new regime. Well, it wasn't a new day and it wasn't a new regime. It was American politics more or less as usual. Barack Obama turns out not to be the Messiah. Maybe there should be no surprise in that.”
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“Yeah, like every politician, sure, and that the racial identity piece is an aspect of that. I mean, anything I say here would only be speculation because I have no facts about the personal history of Barack Obama. And I accept Barack Hussein Obama, as Hillary Clinton once said, I take him at his word about whatever she was talking about. Well, was he a Christian, I think is what the question was. You know, there was some right-wing attack on Obama for, you know, having been raised for some years in the Philippines and all of that, or Indonesia, I beg your pardon, in Indonesia. Stepfather and all of that, but she took him at his word, and I take him at his word about his racial identity. No, you were.”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was Kamala Harris raised up largely in Canada, though born in the United States, Barack Obama is, as I've said, of mixed ancestry, and neither of his parents are the descendants of American descendants of African slaves. Blackness is flexible. It's something that you can put on or you can take off to a certain degree for some people. And so be it. I was excited. Our time has come. Hope and change. We are the ones we've been waiting for. These are slogans from 2008. I can't believe I bought that crap”
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“Well, yeah, I didn't identify in 2008 as a conservative to the same extent that I do today. I was kind of in transition yet again. I was excited by the Obama candidacy. At first, I was skeptical because, after all, he's not black. The man's father is a Kenyan and the man's mother is a white American and he identifies as black. I find it interesting that the first black president of the United States, and I could have put inverted commas around black, and the first black vice president of the United States, neither of them descend from American slaves. Kamala Harris's father is of African ancestry in part. A Jamaican immigrant, and her mother is an Indian.”
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“Psychology, he's not an econom Eleanor Ostrom, the political scientist who was honored in a joint prize given to her and Oliver Williamson 15 years ago or so. He could be put in that company really quite easily.”
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“I do think so. I mean Hayek was awarded by the committee Gunnar Miridol, the Swedish economist, wrote about economic development, wrote a famous two-volume work, An American Dilemma about the status of blacks. I mean, I think Tom could be, you know, put in that company very easily without any difficulty.”
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“Implement the basic insights from economic science. There is no free lunch. I mean, there's always going to be a cost anything that you do and so on. People respond to incentives, demand curve slope downward. Competition tends to work best when people are free to enter and not and so on. I mean, that kind of thing. But Thomas also a social historian of philosopher in the tradition of a Friedrich von Hayek. One of Tom's books I deeply admire knowledge and decisions is an extension of the Hayekian arguments about the limits of central planning and whatnot. So I think Tom Seoul, Thomas Seoul, African American, born as I understand it in Louisiana, raised in New York City, graduate of Harvard College. A PhD in economics from the University of Chicago, a black conservative social scientist of very high stature. I think he's a great man.”
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“I think another reason is that Tom, as a methodological matter, Not especially quantitative. He pays attention to data, but he doesn't do statistical analysis and he doesn't do modeling. So from a methodological point of view, he's not a cutting edge kind of mathematically sophisticated, kind of quantitatively, statistically oriented. He does descriptive stuff. He writes in a style that is much more like a social historian than it is like a mathematically trained analytical economist. On the other hand, he is an economist in the Chicago school at Milton Friedman and George Stickler, prominent amongst his teachers, who takes price theory, which is the analysis of the interplay of market forces, mindful of incentives, and so on to”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's written about. He's been critical of affirmative action, and he didn't just stand back and wag his finger. He got busy looking at the consequences of affirmative action in societies all around the world. And he's written books about that. He's been critical of the narrative about civil rights and racial inequality. He believes in small government. He doesn't think that efforts to redistribute income have proved to be the solution to the problem of racial disparity. Tom has not been honored by the committee that hands out Nobel recognition in economic science and probably won't be because he's controversial. And I reckon that that committee would be loath to encourage the blowback that they would be sure to receive if they were to take a controversial and politically focused and expressive black conservative and honor in that way.”
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“Still going there, the books continue to come out. I think he's a great man. I thank Thomas Sowell, regardless of his race, he's black. Is one of the hundred most significant economists of the 20th century. He has chosen as his subject a substantial part of his subject to investigate. The deep causes and consequences of racial disparity of one kind or another. He's written fundamental books about that. Many of them, he's a social philosopher. He is an economic historian. He is a combatant in the conflict of ideas around how to think about society.”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He didn't have to say it. All he had to do was do it. If he wanted to put a black woman on the court, then he could just go ahead and done it The reason he said it is because he wanted black people to vote for him by saying it. And I'm saying that treats us like with children.”
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“This is just a piece of a larger political strategy to cobble together a coalition that will be successful at the polls in sustaining Democrats. Jim Crow two point zero, this whole characterization of the conflict in the States about election security and voting rights is another part of that strategy. He is pandering to black voters. He is trying to frighten us thinking that if the Republicans win, our rights will be taken away. And I think it is an infantilization of African American politics. I think Black people ought not to be as concerned about the color of the skin of a person who is serving in government as they are about the content of their character and the focus of their political and ideological orientation, which for me would be sinner or even center-right, but that's me.”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And if I were, and I'm not a liberal Democrat, the highest concern that I would have about an appointment to the Supreme Court is this a person who is going to be effective in advocating my liberal views within the highest council of American law. Now, the fact that that person is a woman or is a black person is way down the list of the things that I would think are important to the kinds of opinions that they're going to write. So, I mean, I think Joe Biden.”
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“He was seeking votes from black people by pandering to us, and he's treating us like children. Why should I care what color the person is who's on the United States Supreme Court? What I should care about is what kind of opinions they're going to write when they're on the United States. Do I suppose that being a black woman means that you're going to write different kind of opinions than others? Well, perhaps perhaps that kind of identity politics at the highest level of American legal establishment is something that rubs me very much the wrong way. What I should care about is the nature and the future of the law. I'm actually struck by this because The court is conservative. It has six conservative members on it and it has three liberal members on it.”
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“Biden had not done what he did. He could have just appointed a black woman by saying that he was limiting his considerations to black women. And what are black women as a percentage of all potential appointees to the Supreme Court? I don't know. We could look the number up. By saying that he puts an asterisk on the appointment, but it's worse than that. Because she will live down the asterisk of a person is inclined to do that. She will have the opportunity to show through her performance exactly what kind of juris she is, just as Justice Clarence Thomas has shown through his performance that he was qualified and more than qualified to be on this United States Supreme Court What I disliked was the pandering.”
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“Name an African American woman to that position, and then going ahead and named an African American woman to that position. And I'm sure that Katanji Brown Jackson, I don't doubt that she's accepting qualified. She has a distinguished career. She served as a judge on the DC Circuit Court of Appeal. She's a graduate of Harvard Law School. She has a background. You do not have to be a world-class constitutional legal scholar to get onto the United States Supreme Court. A lot of members of the United States Supreme Court have had different kinds of legal careers before they were elevated to that position. Earl Warren of the famed Warren Court of the 1950s and 60s was a politician, as well as a leading jurist and whatnot. I mean, many kinds of people in the U.S. Supreme Court, I have no doubt that Judge Katanji Brown Jackson is a qualified member to be on the Supreme Court. I wish that”
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“Yes, I wish that he had only said the first sentence, even if his intention was to do what he said he was going to do in the second sentence. In other words, I wish that he had simply said, If I have the opportunity to nominate someone to the Supreme Court, it's going to be a superbly qualified person to carry out that position. And he might have kept to himself his intention.”
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“Correct. And I want us to deal with what it is that we have to deal with. Project strength in an increasingly competitive world.”
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“And having them have to beg the Supreme Court to allow for a special dispensation on my behalf because they need diversity and inclusion and belonging. It's not just diversity. It's not just diversity and inclusion. It's diversity and inclusion and belonging. I'm whining because I feel like I don't belong. That's a position of weakness. It's pathetic. And it's only political correctness that keeps people who can see this and believe me, a lot of people can see it. Saying so out loud”
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“That you've got this belly ache This excuse my ancestors were slaves. Only going to work for so long. So that makes me, I suppose, a kind of conservatives. I hate affirmative action. I don't just disagree with it. I don't just think it's against the 14th Amendment. I hate it. The hatred comes from an understanding that it is a band-aid, that it is a substitute for the actual development of our capacities of our people to compete. I'd much rather be in the position of having them try to keep me out because I'm so damn good like they're doing with the Asians.”
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