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Glenn Loury

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“You say it works. I guess you're right. It used to be that calling someone a communist. Worked. I mean, going back to the late 40s, early 50s, Red Scare, McCarthyism, and whatnot. And the person might have belonged to a club that was pro Soviet Union in the nineteen thirties when they were in college. They might have voted for the socialist candidate Henry Wallace in the presidential election of 1948. They might belong to the Communist Party. They might think Karl Marx was right about a whole lot of stuff about capitalism and whatnot. And they got called a communist or a Marxist and it could have ruined their career, could have ruined their lives. And a lot of people shut up about it. And it took, and it went on for a long time. And in a way, it kind of still is going on. I mean, you call somebody a Marxist. And if you can make that stick, they're certainly not going to get elected president of the United States.”
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“No, I don't, frankly. Was it Roseanne Barr who made this statement about Valerie Jared? She made some kind of ape like reference to whatever. Show got canceled and she's a racist.”
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“And that reality doesn't get changed by telling a newspaper writer who writes about it that they are a racist or enforcing within a newsroom, you can't cover that story in that way because to do so would be racist. I think it's a monumental mistake. To enforce a closure on public discussion. Based upon a calculation that if we allow people, if Twitter allows this kind of post, if the Washington Post runs this kind of story, et cetera, you end up with a Superficial politeness, but a subterranean seething resentment that only makes matters worse.”
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“Discomforting confrontation with the realities of the situation at hand. And for black Americans, I think one big part of the reality of the situation at hand is violent crime. Violent crime. You know, a police officer is afraid when he stops a car because it's an 18-year-old driving the vehicle. He's got dreadlocks. He's a black person. The car doesn't have the right license plate. He's afraid to deal with that person. And one of the reasons he's afraid to deal with them is because a few who look like him are behaving violently. Their violence is usually perpetrated against others who look like themselves, but not always.”
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“But yeah, I mean, one concern is that the policing of the superficial policing, this is a part of political correctness, you know, the insistence that you only use certain words, that you only talk in a certain way. It's a phony kind of power because it doesn't actually persuade people about the issues that are at hand. Instead, it forces them underground in their talk about these issues. And that's problematic much better that we have overt and explicit and honest disagreement to the extent that there are disagreement about things that are going on than that we have a superficial kind of conversation that is purged of any real biting, you know.”
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“I talk about this often in my pockets. That's the Glenn show, and you can find the Glenn show my YouTube channel and also at Substack”
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“So, all of this linguistic policing. A sign of weakness, it's false black power. People will seed you to the ground. Okay, you don't want me to use that word. I won't use that word anymore. Okay, you don't want me to talk about that in public? All right. I won't talk about it in public anymore. I don't want to be called a racist. Okay, so I won't express my opinion. You haven't changed anybody's mind. Know so and you've”
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“Calling people witches, which is what this anti-racist, you're a racist because you think that the out-of-wed like birth rate amongst black Americans is seven babies out of ten are born to a woman without a husband. Their families are falling apart. Now, no one says that in public because they'd be called a racist if they said it in public. But as a matter of fact, the families are falling apart. You didn't change that in the least by telling people to shut up about it. Daniel Patrick Moynihan is called a racist in the 1960s, the late senator, the late New York senator who was a federal employee and an intellectual writing reports. And he writes a report about the Negro family, he called it in those years. If I use the word negro, now they're going to call me a racist if I'm a white person. I can't even use the word negro, which is a historically legitimate reference to the descendants of the slaves, enslaved people, which we were as black Americans proud to use until yesterday.”
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“That people who invoke that term are using. And here's what I have to say about that it's a fool's errand. Try to refute somebody by calling them a witch. Likewise, it's a fool's errand to try to rebut the contrary forces in American politics that are a reaction often to real things that are going on on the ground in black communities and the cities across this country by calling people a racist. You may shut them up, but you won't change their minds. And you know what? At the end of the day, they're going to go to the ballot box and they're going to vote. They're going to pick up their store and they're going to move it to the other side of town or to another town altogether. They're going to keep their children away from places where they think the influences are harmful to those children. They may not even talk about it in public. You can believe that in private that they're talking about it with each other. You had better find a more effective way of dealing with the conflicts in this country that fall along racial fault lines than”
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“Mobbed in the city and they burnt and they rioted and they looted and it hasn't been the same ever since and I'm moving to the suburbs. I'll be damned if I'm going to send my children to those schools. A person could say that. They might be right. They might be wrong to say it. Calling them a racist is exactly not a rebuttal of what they said. It's a move. It's a move to try to take control of the conversation by accusing someone of having bad character because they said something that made you uncomfortable which you can't deal with. So you think you can shut them up by calling them a racist. You might as well be calling them a witch. You might as well be calling for their head on a platter because Because that's the kind of quote argument, close quote, which is precisely not an argument.”
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“Responding to someone making that statement, have you seen what has happened to my city? It used to be that you could go to North Michigan Avenue and you could find one after another after another high-end shop distance in Chicago, my hometown. And tourists would come and they'd go to the theater and there were restaurants and they'd go out. They don't do it anymore. You know what? Half of those stores are boarded up now. You know why? Because when George Floyd was killed, black people...”
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“Accusing people of witchcraft because they have views about substantive questions that bear on racial inequality or racial difference that a person finds unacceptable or that a person disagrees with. And you think you can shut somebody up, crime in the cities of Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C. is out of control, some person might say. Murder rate is high. Who's committing those crimes? They're mostly black young men who are doing the carjackings and who are doing the shootings. They're killing each other. They're making our city unlivable. Now that's a hypothetical statement that I offer. It might be correct It might be incorrect. It might be appropriate. It might be inappropriate. It may be true, but something that we would be better off if people didn't focus on. I don't know.”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He could be wrong. Let me stipulate that he is wrong. I mean, I don't want to argue about whether he's right or about whether he's wrong. He's addressing himself to a factual issue. And now the issue becomes, instead of grappling with the factual questions at hand and demonstrating his rightness or wrongness about those questions, the issue becomes his character. He's a racist. That's, in my mind, a lot like calling him a witch. Use of that word now, I think, has parallels.”
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“Charles Murray is a popular social science writer who is famous for his book about IQ, the Bell Curve, one chapter of which chronicles the racial differences between black and white in performance on mental ability test and speculates about the extent to which such differences may be connected with the genetic inheritance of these racially distinct populations. Now he could be wrong about everything that he's saying. The southern poverty law center calls him a white supremacist because he observes that there are racial differences in measured intellectual ability amongst Americans of different racial descent.”
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“A scientist at the University of Chicago who published a piece in Newsweek magazine in which he said that he thought affirmative action and racial balancing was unethical. He was invited to give a lecture at MIT, a very distinguished lecture in his field based on planetary science. I don't know exactly what it is. I'm not a scientist. But in any case, because he had said He didn't like affirmative action, and he thought affirmative action was racist. That's basically what he said. Why are we looking at people based upon their race and decide we should just do it on the merit? That was his position. Now people are protesting at the university where he was invited, MIT, saying that he's a racist because he had that opinion. He gets disinvited.”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think this throwing around the accusation of racism, a college professor is teaching a course. He says, in the context of teaching the course that the underrepresentation of blacks in physics program at this university is because they score lower on the test than other groups and they're not qualified. So say the professor gives a lecture and he says, we don't have more blacks in the physics department at this university because they're not enough qualified blacks. Somebody in the classroom who hears that, a black student, objects he's a racist. A power move It's a move to try to control the conversation. It's not an argument. It's an epithet. You've said that a person who has a particular idea that you don't like, maybe that idea is I'm against affirmative action. I think it's unfair. I was just with Dorian Abbott.”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think we have a history here in the United States of blatant racism. That goes back a long way and that has present day echoes. There are races. I mean, there are people who will look and see, oh, those are black people. They're patronizing this business. I don't want to patronize this business anymore, who if their daughter or their son is dating somebody that is black, they will say, I really wish you wouldn't do that. I mean, why are you hanging out with those people? Don't you know who they are? There are people, there are racists. That is black people who see somebody who's white and who then invoke a whole lot of stereotypes or whatever or have a visceral dislike based upon nothing other than the color of the person's skin. Such people exist. Racism is a real thing, etc. On the other hand.”
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“Yeah, he should have, and he did That was an insult. That was something that, you know, if you say that and people are offended, they have a right to be offended. And if you didn't mean to offend them, you can apologize. And he did apologize. I accept his apology. Joe's okay with me as far as that goes. In fact, McWhorter and I, John McWhorter and I at the podcast that I do, the Glenn show, I had a conversation, part of which. He didn't really do anything wrong. I mean, you can like Aramillo. You can hate him or whatever, but the idea that he's a racist is kind of ridiculous, frankly. I mean. You know. If that's your test of what constitutes a racist, the utterance of the word. Then it's kind of silly as far as I'm concerned.”
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“My honest answer to you is I don't know. I don't fully understand it. It has become symbolic in a way, and the policing of the use of the word, I can say it, but white people can't say it, I can say it, I'm not a racist, I'm not a self-hating black. I'm just speaking the language of colloquial English that has emerged amongst African Americans in which that word plays a big role. But the prohibition on its use by others, and of course, in the Joe Rogan case, it wasn't as if he was calling anybody an N-word. He was simply pointing out that people had said stuff in which the N-word was a part of what they said. Now, he did make this statement about, how did he put it, Planet of the Apes, that one of the offensive things that he said had a, you know, you walked into a room, there's a bunch of black guys standing around. He says like Planet of the Apes.”
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“The law professor at Harvard University has a book called Nigger, and he uses the word in the title of the book The History of a Strange History of a Provocative Word or something like this. There's a subtitle, but the title of the book. N-I-G-E-R colon, and then he has a subtitle. I think, of course, the use of the word as a slur and an insult, which is a part of the history of black people in the United States, the use of the word by the Southern racist segregationists. We don't want no niggas up in here. Niggas have no place in my restaurant, in my store, et cetera. That's meant to be an insult. It's an insult to people. It's a fighting word. It's a word that you say that to somebody, it's an invitation for conflict.”
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“I heard the word constantly as I was growing up as a boy and a young man in Chicago. Niggas ain't shit. That was said. That was, you know, and that could be a reflection of some kind of pathology within the African American community of self-hatred and so forth. It could be, or it could just be a colloquial linguistic way. I mean, I assume other groups also have their various, I don't know how the Irish talk about their Irish brothers and, you know, whatever. And I don't know how the Jews talk about their Jewish brothers and whatever. But black people, when talking about other black people, use the N-word, all the time. My nigga. N-I-G-G-A. You know, my nigga, that is a term of endearment. My friend Randall Kennedy.”
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“This is a phenomenon that interests me. Okay. The N word nigger, I could say it because I'm black. But I mean, I can also say it because I like hip hop. And when I listen to hip hop, I hear the word all the time These niggas ain't You here, watch out for these, you know, etc.”
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“Correct those things is to make alliance and associate oneself with Americans who are concerned to change these things. And I don't think it's properly framed as a racial problem. And I certainly don't think that violent rebellion gets us anywhere. I get the historical salience of that posture and it made a lot of sense in the early in the mid-20th century. I don't think it makes very much sense at all in the early 21st century.”
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“Violent reaction in that there is, if we look at the net effect of the so-called rebellions in American cities, they're negative. George Floyd protests which became violent and arsonous in the aftermath of civil disturbance and whatnot in the summer of 2020, I think set back the program for African Americans. I don't think it advanced it. I think there are things to be concerned about. Schools that are not working, police that are not respecting citizens and so forth. But I think that those are things that affect white Americans as well and that the way to ultimately”
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“It's there. But here in the butt is. I don't meet today Glenn Lowry in 2022 think that that is the answer. I don't think that violent rebellion. Gets us anywhere at the end of the day. I think we're past that. There aren't Knight Rider, Ku Klux Klan people breaking down your door and dragging you away. There are notes thrown over a tree limb where you hang somebody from the tree because they whistle at a white woman or they got too much property in your community and you became, you know, they were uppity negroes and whatnot like that. That is. A thing of the past in America that the situation is no longer the one that requires that kind of”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, violence now, that's another story. I mean, Malcolm X would say, you know, we're going to defend ourselves. You're going to mess with us. You know, you racist Ku Klux Klan or whatever. We're going to arm ourselves and we're going to fight you back. You racist police who are oppressing and persecuting and abusing our people. Well, you better be ready because we're going to fight you back. That too was the spirit that my uncle that was a kind of attitude, a kind of posture my uncle was not a radical. He was a businessman, but he respected this idea. You take your life in your own hands when you mess with us because we're prepared to defend ourselves.”
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“And I have a complete collection, as best as my uncle could assemble, of the recorded speeches of Malcolm X. Now, why did he do that? He did that because he did not want me to forget, don't be dependent upon the white man. Build your own stand up straight with your shoulders back, proud black man. Take care of your business. Take care of your children. Pick up the trash in front of your house. Get busy. This was this philosophy.”
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“Smart, eat green vegetables, don't eat fried food, don't eat pork. They're Muslims. Don't eat pork. And take responsibility for your diet and be healthy. And don't be putting a whole lot of pills into your body. You don't need to do that if you just get control of your diet and you eat properly. Now, my uncle loved this idea of responsibility for self and a determination to build. He respected that in the Muslims, even if he didn't buy the religious part of it And so, and by the way, when my uncle died, In 1983. He left me a bequest. It wasn't money, unfortunately. It was his complete collection of the recorded speeches of Malcolm X. I have these albums. These are 33 and a third LPs. There's six of them”
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“Stand up straight with your shoulders back. That's a Jordan Peterson. But I mean, that was way before Jordan Peterson, but that was his philosophy. Stand up straight, but raise your children. Don't be depending upon welfare. You're taking welfare from the white man. You need to get busy. You need to educate yourself. You need to clean up your act. Put down the fried chicken because it's going to kill you. My uncle Mooney loved this book that Elijah Muhammad, they called him the honorable Elijah Muhammad. He was the founder and the leader of the nation of Islam. He had a book. And all the books said was,”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The position of king, which depended on a kind of respect for the best of the tradition of American democracy, appealing to the better nature of our oppressors, live up to the full meaning of our creed. I mean, these are words that he would use. A magnificent promisory note is what he would think of as the Declaration of Independence and the legacy of Abraham Lincoln unfulfilled ideal. And the black Muslims were like, fuck that. We're going to take care of our own. We're going to build our own schools. We're going to build our own businesses. We're not waiting for the white man to do anything. Get your knee off my neck and get out of my way and let me take care of my own. And my uncle respected that. He respected the straight back.”
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“Some people say that's why he was killed, and so on, I don't know. I certainly find that to be plausible that he became the constitute a threat to the sect, which was the black Muslims and had to be dealt with. I don't know if we'll ever know the full story on that. But anyway, what I'm trying to say is the black Muslims were there. Malcolm X was there. And in my experience, They constituted a counterpoint.”
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“Which is the black Muslim movement founded in American cities in Detroit and in Chicago going back to the early middle twentieth century and growing into a very significant movement that had a lot of influence, Lewis Farrakhan, the controversial figure descends from this movement. It has fractured now and has the major part of the legacy of the black Muslims has assimilated itself into Islam proper Malcolm X made a famous pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina and came back with a very different vision about what it meant to be a Muslim and understood himself to be a part of the large tradition and religious culture of Islam that has a global reach and he had a different vision when he came back from that.”
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“And back in that day, you go into a black church and you'd see a portrait of Jesus and he'd be a blonde haired, blue-eyed. He didn't even look like a Mediterranean. I mean, he didn't look like somebody who came from Palestine. I mean, he looked like somebody who came from Northern Europe or something like that, the picture of Jesus. And my uncle Mooney rejected that whole thing. He would be damned if he was going to bend his knee to some white Jesus. But he was not a Muslim either, but he respected the Muslims. He brought home their newspaper. It was called Muhammad Speaks. This is the nation of Islam.”
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“Well educated, but a very intelligent and disciplined and resourceful provider for his family, which included myself, my sister, and my mother in their household. We called him Uncle Mooney because he had moonshaped eyes that protruded and were round. Uncle Mooney. James Ellis was his name. Uncle Mooney. James Ellis Lee. I was my Uncle Mooney. But I'm saying all that to say this. He admired the nation of Islam. I mean, King and Malcolm X, Martin King and Malcolm X, differed along a number of different dimensions. Malcolm X was a Muslim. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Christian minister. My uncle Mooney didn't have any time for these Christian ministers. He thought that was the white man's religion.”
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“I can relate to that. As I mentioned, I grew up in Chicago in the 1950s and the 1960s. I remember Malcolm X, I mean, literally in real time. I remember when he was murdered in 1965 in the Audubon ballroom in Harlem in Manhattan, in New York City. I remember my uncle, I was raised in a house where my aunt and uncle were the master of the house, and my mother and my sister and I lived in a small apartment upstairs in the back of this big house that my successful aunt and uncle owned. And my uncle was a small businessman, a barber, and a tradesman. He was a hustler. I mean, legally, I mean, he did what he had to do to make money. He was a very enterprising, not especially...”
2022-05-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #285 – Glenn Loury: Race, Racism, Identity Politics, and Cancel Culture · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Saw it in Los Angeles in 1992, and the Rodney King Civil Disturbances that broke out there and the balled up fist, the radical Afrocentric rejection of the American story that Martin Luther King, he believed in. He believed in a magnificent promissory note. And a lot of people are rolling their eyes, you know, and saying, you know, as you say, fuck the man magnificent promissory note. Just get your knee off my neck. That's what you can do for me. Don't ask me to believe in your BS about some magnificent promissory or some founding fathers. We're all slave owners, anyway. I mean, just get your knee off my neck.”
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“Okay, I think you put your finger on something really important in the context of we were just discussing my black patriotism essay. And it's not the only story. There is another story, and Malcolm X is someone you identify, and his memory lives on and is powerfully influential. And I think you see it in Black Lives Matter, and I think you see it in the protest and rioting and so forth that has broken out periodically going all the way back to the 1960s and before, but especially since the 1960s.”
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“Operating in because we basically don't have any alternative and because when viewed in full context, a noble and profoundly significant achievement the United States of America and a beacon to the rest of the world, I don't want to go off in some starry eyed kind of jingoistic celebration of America as the greatest civilization, etc., etc. But this great nation is our nation and I think we do best by beginning we black Americans do best by beginning. This is my argument in the piece by beginning from a framework which accepts that fact and then builds on it.”
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“The United States of America of the Democratic Republic of the United States of America. Again, not perfect, which are malleable enough, these institutions, to allow for the transformation of the status of African Americans such as has occurred since the end of slavery. And I want to say there's a lot to celebrate in that. So this is our country. We are full members of the polity. We have burdens and responsibilities as well as privileges that are associated with our membership in this republic. That does not mean that we should not fight for what we believe to be right, although we are not one voice here, we black Americans. It does not mean that we should not protest things that we think are deserving of protest. But I want to say it does mean that we should not reject the framework that we're”
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“We have to work out whatever our concerns are with our fellow Americans right here within the context of American politics. That means compromise. That means looking for a framework for political expression, which is broader than our racial identity, et cetera. So I want to say that. But I also want to say there's no reason to apologize for this. There's something positive to affirm. I take on this question about slavery in brief, in brief, because in fact slavery was awful and it was wrong and it was on the backs of the enslaved Africans and it had consequences that endured, that have endured long after the termination of the thing. But I also want to say look at what has happened in the last 150 years for African Americans. And I want to say the vitality of the institutions here in”
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“Balance the unrealistic, fanciful politics. It's not as serious politics. We are Americans. We're not going anywhere here. The idea that, and I want to say this in a number of different registers, I want to say, first of all, We need to make peace with the fact that that's who we are and that's where we are. So nobody is coming. The World Court is not going to litigate our disputes. The United Nations is not going to set up a desk for people of African descent who reside in North America.”
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“seventeen eighty seven fought a war of independence from the British, established a republic which is a confederation of these independent colonies which has grown into now the 50 states of the United States of America, continental nation. The richest and most powerful nation on the planet. With massive influence throughout the world for good and for ill That's who we are, I want to say, to black people. There is no other home for us. This fantasy of we being a people apart. Back in the day, when I was coming along in the 1960s, there was something called the Republic of New Africa movement. And they wanted some states in the South giving over to black people, and we were going to have our own country. And that's a joke. It's a fantasy. It's a mythic.”
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“By a European population that settled here in North America and appropriated the land and have built a civilization here, which has been peopled by a large influx of individuals from Europe, the Irish and Italian and Greek and Slavic and Jewish, Russian Jews coming in large numbers and so on, and wave after wave after wave of immigration, Asian Latin American population of people have come to reside here in the United States, and we black Americans who descend from slaves, we African Americans who descend from slaves. So here we are. This is a great nation. I mean, this is a monumentally significant political force, which is the United States of America founded in 1776.”
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“You know, the history of the world since 1500 is a history in which people of African descent are scattered because of slavery. Throughout the West of Hemisphere. And so here we are. The institution of slavery ended in 1863 in the United States. Struggle that we started out talking about. Which gave rise to Martin Luther King giving that speech that you say is the greatest speech in American history. And I'm not going to argue with you about that happened right here in the United States. What is the United States? The United States is a nation of immigrants. The population of the North American continent was sparsely populated by an indigenous population which was Destroyed in conquest.”
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“I mean, I'm speaking in an article called The Case for Black Patriotism in a particular context. And what I'm saying basically is very simple. I'm saying we are African Americans. The emphasis should be on the American. I actually don't even much care for the framing. African American, but I'm not going to fight with people about it. It's, you know, I don't think it's worth fighting about. That's not how I would just say we're Americans. Or if you want, we're black Americans. We're certainly not Afric Is the African American population is a population of people. Come into existence here in North America through the cauldron of slavery. Are also immigrants from East Africa, immigrants from West Africa, immigrants from Southern Africa, immigrants from the Caribbean who descend from an ancestral population, which is African.”
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“Because at the end of the day, deep down, it is. But I can also see the argument that I hold on to racial identity because A, my racial presentation colors how other people deal with me, but B, because everybody needs a story. Everybody needs an account. You tell me you're Jewish. I mean, I don't know how deep that is, I don't know how genetically profound that is. I do know that it's a culturally. Profound identity for a lot of people based upon maybe some of the same kind of forces that I'm talking about. A, they won't let you not be Jewish. You could say you're not Jewish, but when Hitler is rounding people up, what you say doesn't have a whole lot to do with what do the Gestapo is about. And B, you need to tell your children a story.”
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“Have to happen before we would recognize the common humanity that we all share that is profound and is deep, we all descend in effect from the same ancestral population of Homo sapiens who walked out of East Africa eons ago and have survived amongst all of the different possible variations of species and whatnot of humanoid population. The Homo sapiens have flourished, the others have died out. And here we are. And we can just look at the genetic endowments that characterize our biological essence. And we can see that we are all quote unquote the same beneath the skin. And yet we end up freighting so much weight onto these superficial differences. So I can see both sides of the issue is what I'm saying. Argument race is an irrelevancy.”
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“And Death's End. Those are the three books of Chicks and Lose trilogy about how Trisolaris, which is another star system within a few light years of the solar system, and Earth get into a conflict. When the Tricolarans come down to dominate Earth, suddenly all of these differences between the Chinese and the North Americans and the Europeans and the Africans and the South Asians become kind of insignificant because, after all, the Tricillarians with their advanced civilization, whose star system is dying, have their eyes on the solar system, which has a planet, the third rock from the sun, that is pretty habitable. You know, the difference between us become pretty insignificant. So we shouldn't need for an invasion by extraterrestrial beings.”
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“Well, or I could claim some Scottish descent. I don't. I don't know who those ancestors are. And frankly, I don't know who my enslaved ancestors are. I can't trace my family history back very far into the nineteenth century. But so what stories do I tell my children about who we are, about who their ancestors are? I mean, I want to tell my children some story, and that story is going to be colored, quote unquote, by my race. So even though it is superficial. And in an ideal world, you might think, why would human beings, I read science fiction, so there's this Chinese writer, Chiksen Lu is his name. I might not pronounce it exactly right. He has a trilogy, The Three Body Problem? Dark”
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“Think that I can say that almost without exception. We could go to 23andMe and look at the DNA. Have European ancestors. They're not purely Afric That's a fact, and that's a consequence of the experience of African descended people because it's a mixed population. My name is Lowry, spelled L-O-U-R-Y, but pronounced this if it were L-O-W-E-R-Y. And I gather, if you trace the history of that name, that it's Scottish. So, somewhere back.”
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