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  1. “Nature of your mind, the shame that you carry, you know, the self-judgment or self-loathing. And so then you say, well, what do you do then? Or it brings up its opposite. That's the place that you just breathe and hold all that stuff with timess. Because this is our humanity. And we all have some of that. And the point isn't to get rid of it or judge yourself for having it or try to fix it. It's almost as if you put your hand on your heart and you say, you know, this is like mindful self-compassion of deep training. This is part of the measure of struggles that I've been given like every human being. These things have tried to protect me and now I can hold them with tenderness and say, all right, you know, thank you, but I don't need your help anymore. I can be kind to myself. And in that way, you're not trying to fix yourself or perfect yourself.”

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  2. “Beautiful And the same principle from ancient texts say that you start in the easiest way. For some people, kindness for themselves seems impossible, but then you pick a child you care about or someone else. Or even when you do go to yourself, you think of yourself when you are an innocent child and wish yourself well. The game is to do where whatever naturally opens the gateway, whatever is the easiest for some people it's their dog. You come home and the most non-judgmental being in their life wags its tail and loves you and it doesn't care what's going on in your head. So you take the avenue that most naturally opens your heart and then you do this just a little at a time as you said and it doesn't take long. But the other thing that's important is that sometimes as you do it, it can actually display or show you the hypercritical”

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  3. “And we are in this kind of multitasking world with our devices and we've forgotten how to tend our own hearts. We've forgotten how in some ways to really be present for one another and more importantly for our own life. And so getting guided meditations is tremendously helpful. And doing these little mini practices that you talk about one minute, two minutes several times a day can transform you.”

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  4. “And with it, then, there is also the programs there. There's one called Guided Meditations that's downloaded. It's like 10 bucks or something. And it has a loving kindness practice, a compassion practice, a forgiveness practice. I think it may even have a joy practice and so forth. So it's really helpful to have guided meditations at first because otherwise your attention, we have a very short attention span in modern society. Albert Einstein, at least according to scientific American, said, if you can drive safely while kissing a girl, you're simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.”

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  5. “Online teacher training for people interested in mindful in passing along mindfulness and loving-kindness to others. Jack, just interject.”

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  6. “Minutes or four minutes in the evening, or this woman at her work taking once an hour, you know, 30 seconds or a minute to look at somebody there and offer a well-wishing can transform everything. For people who want the practical support because it is hard to do on your own, if you go to soundstrue.com and look up the programs that I have, first there's a 40-day program called Mindfulness Daily, which is 15 minutes a day or 12 minutes a day, depending on the segment, that both gives instructions in mindfulness, loving awareness, and loving kindness practice. And by the end of those 40 days, you really have learned the inner skills. And then it builds up. There's then a deeper training called Power of Awareness. And for those who are interested, we're about to open an”

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  7. “guilty if you're going to save it don't save it out of guilt or anger or fear those are the very things that are actually making the world worse save it because you love it because it's part of you because it and that's the that is the is the power whether you're starting a company but also it's not just that you you know some vision okay now i'm going to become this wealthy you know playboy or whatever you know zillionaire that what does your life mean for you and what do you really want and when you listen there is something in you and it's part of your birthright to both be able to give your gifts but also to love and be loved in return and it turns out that it's a power so then what you talk about is that it doesn't take much to begin the training and you're you know too”

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  8. “And so the notion that love is somehow a weakness, I think we do everything out of love. We want to be loved, even in our ambition and our desire for success underneath it is we want to be well. We want to find our happiness. And that's part of love. So it's actually a power. And my colleague and friend Wes Nisker went to interview Gary Snyder a couple of years ago. Gary is a Pulitzer Prize-winning poet and environmentalist for 50 years been writing about bioregionalism and one of our great kind of elders in this environmental movement. He said, Gary, what do you have to say to us now that oceans are rising? The world climate is changing hotter and hotter. The species extinction. And Gary looked back and he said,”

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  9. “So a lot of different questions sort of woven into what you said. And the first is that there's a kind of misunderstanding in our culture that love is a weakness. And it's not. There is a way in which it's the force that can, probably the only force that can meet the level of aggression or violence and other such things that are happening in the world. It's the power that lets mothers lift cars off their children or to let somebody like Dr. Martin Luther King stand after his church was bombed and children were killed and say we will meet your physical violence with soul force. We will not harm you but we will love you so deeply that we will not only transform ourselves but we will transform you in the process.”

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  10. “Experience on the mountains or making love, but you can make that alive for you through these trainings every day, every part of your life.”

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  11. “Learning, they learn compassion, and it changes their lives. They're better academically. And all these kids carry the, you know, the troubles of our times. They hear the news. They see the trouble even in their own family, to teach you how to steward your own heart from when you're young. And then these capacities are now being incorporated, as we know, mindfulness-based stress reduction in clinics and hospitals, in businesses. There's the mindfulness teachers when the Seahawks won the championship or the Chicago Bulls and the LA Lakers when there were championship teams. They had a meditation coach, a mindfulness coach, George Mumford, a good friend, that these capacities can be learned wherever we are. And they transform our life. It's not just by accident or that you have this beautiful.”

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  12. “Prosper and not decline. And if your society tends the environment around it in a healthy way, it will prosper and not decline. And so these are principles of compassion and wise society that you could read perhaps in a number of great traditions, from the Iroquois nation or from the Taoist sages. But here's the beautiful piece. Yes, these are good things meeting in harmony and discussing in harmony and being respectful for one another and so forth. There are practices that you can teach and learn that develop this capacity so that in our elementary schools now, through organizations like CASEL, which is a consortium for social and emotional learning that's worked in 10,000 schools, kids learn social and emotional”

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  13. “toward the end of it. I mentioned that in this historical record, whether it's true or not, the texts and so forth describe the Buddha meeting with kings and princes and ministers and so forth. And probably if the Buddha were around now, he would go to the White House if he were invited. He certainly would have met with Obama. And who knows now? And he had advice about why society, which he would give to leaders. And he'd say, if you can train your people to meet one another with respect, to listen with respect to differences and to come together peacefully, listen to one another and then your society will prosper and not decline. And if your society tends the vulnerable among them, the young people, the old people, those who are sick, it will”

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  14. “The beautiful thing is that you can learn this. And I was a couple of years ago invited to be part of the first White House Buddhist leadership gathering. There were 120 Buddhist leaders from around the country, from different communities. I don't think that's going to happen again very soon, but there it was. And one could hope. We talked Most of the communities did beautiful things they were involved in soup kitchens and tending the homeless and projects to support healing for whether it was malaria, other diseases in different other parts of the world and so forth, all kinds of great stuff and certainly meditation. And when I got to talk, which was kind of a summary talk towards”

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  15. “I do. I don't know. They could go on my website, JackCornfield.com. I think they will be on there. I do know for sure. I have a whole series of great programs with sounds true, soundstrue.com, that include meditations on the mind vast as the sky, meditations on compassion and loving kindness. And I did a book, one of the books I've done is called A Lamp in the Darkness, and it contains I think eight or nine different guided practices that you can get either with it on the CD, but you can get it as a download basically. And SoundStrew also has that and it has a compassion practice and a grounding practice and a vast sky like mine practice and so forth. So you can look for all of those.”

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  16. “Telomerase and the telomeres at the end of the caps and the DNA, it turns out that your cells listen to your heart and to your intention that consciousness affects your body. And little by little, even though it can bring up its opposite, I hate myself. I've never been good enough. And you see all those and you say, thank you for trying to protect me. I appreciate that. May I be well? May I be safe? May I be held in love? And little by little, like water on a stone, it starts to soften the places that are holding your lack of self-forgiveness, your lack of care. And loving kindness starts to grow in you. And it's a very beautiful practice. There's lots of places you can find it in my work. And teachers like Sharon Soulzberg and Pema Children and Tara Brock and so forth.”

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  17. “And then finally, as you feel that from these loved ones, you can put your hand on your body or your heart, even if you like, and take it in and then begin to realize that you can wish this for yourself. May I hold all of the joys and sorrows of my life with tenderness and kindness. May I hold my struggles with compassion? May I be filled with loving kindness and loving awareness? May I be safe and protected? May I be well, strong or healed? And as you repeat these simple intentions that have been done for thousands of years, it's as if your cells are listening, and this is the research of people like Liz Blackburn and Alyssa Epple who Liz Blackburn got the Nobel Prize for discovering the”

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  18. “It's like an old Beatles song, All the Lonely People. There are 10 million lonely people in England, they've estimated, and this minister has got, and it's, you know, it's for isolation and loss of capacity and health and all kinds of reasons that loneliness makes things way worse. But there's some way in which compassion Is that which connects us. And it's a beautiful thing, even if you walked on the street and you see someone, you know, who's struggling and so forth. It doesn't mean you have to fix the whole world. That's not your job that would be egotistical. But you can reach your hand out and mend the things that you can. You can tend the things that you can. And you can do it not because, oh, you pity them, those poor people, but because they're your family. You recognize that we are common humanity. We're in this together.”

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  19. “Where instead of your body where you can either note moments of care around you or in yourself or be prompted to care for yourself or when you say to Siri or Alexa, you know, I'm feeling lonely or what kind of response do you get from the algorithms and all of that? Because the UK England just appointed their first minister of loneliness for the country and you'd think it was a joke, but it's not.”

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  20. “another and this is your birthright this natural natural compassion and through practice and meditation you can reawaken it you can extend it and it can become your way of living and moving in the world as a little aside and I'll just bookmark this one just got back from a conference with our dear friend Adam Ghazali, our mutual friend Richie Davidson who's another of the most famous neuroscientists especially in this area and a number of other some contemplatives and neuroscientists and some technologists from the valley in VC talking about how to build compassion into our interface with the technological world compassion tech and from starting from the very simplest things of projects like can you build a Fitbit for compassion”

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  21. “Compassion is the next step. You see or recognize, you feel. And then you care. You care about it and you want to, if you can, do something that helps. So that you see the kid being bullied and you realize I want to tell the teacher or the principal or I want to just walk over there and say something or intervene to help stop it. And so compassion, it's called the quivering of the heart when it wants to move to alleviate the suffering of yourself because you can have self-compassion. It's very important or of those around you. And it's born into the earliest studies of infants, you know, at Yale and various places like that show that even very, very, very small children have this resonance and this kind of care. And so it's not shut down in us. We're a species that's interconnected and we care for one.”

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  22. “I would like to distinguish compassion from empathy, and I'll use a simple illustration. If you're on the playground and you see a kid being bullied and you feel, oh, that must feel terrible, that hurts, right? That's an empathy. And empathy can be useful. It also can be, you can get overwhelmed by empathy if you don't know what to do with it, but there's some way in which you start to feel resonating you because we are not limited to these bodies. We are actually an interconnected system of consciousness, and I'll talk about that a little bit more in a minute. But we all know, whether it's mirror neurons from neuroscience or the field of presence as scientists like Dan Siegel talk about extended presence, that we can feel empathy with one another, someone's sad, someone's angry, someone's hurting.”

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  23. “Just want to remind you and the listeners that Buddha and Jesus both had a hard time when they went back to their families. So don't think that there's something wrong with you.”

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  24. “When a child is born, we have these moments where we open to mystery and realize that who we are is not just our personal history or our body and emotions, that we become the consciousness itself, the witnessing awareness that we are the loving awareness, that was born into this body. And that becomes actually a direct knowing, a direct experience. So there is a way in which we also can come home to ourselves and it brings a tremendous sense of freedom and well-being as all the movies of ever-changing life happen to us. So that's why I said, yes, yes and no and both. And just a little aside, thinking about you going back to your family as a practice twice a year as you're doing,”

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  25. “Time magazine issue on modern neuroscience where it said neuroscientists have searched throughout the brain over many decades now and come to the conclusion that they cannot find the self-located anywhere in the neural mechanisms of the brain and that it simply does not exist. But what does exist is the sense of self that's built out of a sense of identification with our thoughts and body and so forth. It's all wise and appropriate we should be but we also know that it's not the end of the story. And you know it from walking in the high mountains or listening to an extraordinary piece of music or making love or taking some sacred medicine or sitting at the bedside of someone when they die, that mysterious moment when spirit leaves the body or”

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  26. “I mean, the whole incarnation thing is really pretty wild. So who are we? And then how do we make meaning of it? This is a lifetime question. And that way it's a koan. But in another way, it also actually does have an answer. And the answer, of course, has to be found by each person. The answer to point toward it, it's very clear that you're not just salad and vegetables and hamburger body, and you're not just your emotions, I hope, because they're always changing and your thoughts, good God, I hope you're not your thoughts. So you start to realize, all right, what is there?”

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  27. “Yeah, because It's a profound contemplation for us, one of the great questions of human incarnation. Who are we? How do we get into that? How did you get into this body with the wiggly things on the end of your limbs and those little bits of claws that you have left as nails and a vestigial tail and a hole at one end into which you stuff dead plants and animals and glug them down through the tube”

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  28. “And he tweeted about, I wouldn't say it otherwise, but he tweeted about it, and it was one of the top transformative experiences of his life. And it's not to say 10-day retreats are the be-all and end-all. They are very powerful and compelling. But even if you have a company, or even if you have a family, there might be a period of a week or some days where you can, in fact, get away and step out of those roles and turn inward, and that can be tremendously valuable. So I think both are important. You just have to listen when the time is right.”

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  29. “Wanted to communicate. Now, that being said, if you have an opportunity and you're drawn to it, like somebody you might do know Jack Dorsey.”

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  30. “You have that intention not just to sold your through it, but to say let this be a place where I awaken graciousness and inner sense of freedom and peace as things come and go, where I awaken the possibility of presence in pleasure and pain and joy and sorrow and gain and loss and all the changes that I find an inviolable or a timeless place of becoming the loving witness of it all, becoming the loving awareness that says, yeah, now I'm having a family experience and this is the place to find freedom because freedom is not in the Himalayas or in the Amazon. The only place it's found is in your own heart exactly where you are. And that's what Gosananda taught and what Godajan Cha, that's really what they want.”

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  31. “That becomes your practice. And if you think, well, if only I could be in the great Zen temple of Kyoto or an ashram in India or down in the Amazon with Tim, you know, taking ayahuasca or whatever plant medicine they give, your kid can be like ayahuasca on steroids. Okay, you want to face yourself and your own limitations and your own look at the small sense of self and find out how to live with a freer and bigger spirit here. We've just hired someone to live with you and train you full time. So it's really, you know, and that's an important thing. But what makes it work is that”

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  32. “Forgiveness and love and be really effective in the world at the same time. So they're not separate. And that's sort of what your question is. How do we live in the world and at the same time what trainings and how do we connect with something deeper? And part of it is just intuitive. You know, Tim. If you have newborn or young children and so forth, it's not the time to go on a long retreat. Your kids are your practice. And in fact, you can't get a Zen master who's going to be more demanding than an infant with colic, right? Or a teenage certain teenage. But with the young ones, your Zenmaster might say, you've got to get up early in the morning. And once in a while you might roll over. The kid is crying and sick. You have to get up. Your family needs tending. And, you know, if you're even vaguely a responsible and caring person.”

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  33. “First, my answer is yes. Because all of the things that you say are true, that yes, most cultures encourage at some point human beings, most wise cultures, human beings, to step out of their ordinary roles and their ordinary routine, whether you go to the mountains or the ocean or a temple or change how you're living so that you can open up to the mystery and so that you also can open up to love, because what I saw with my teachers and Gosanando as well, another, is that they were able to love no matter what. It was really because they inhabited consciousness in a very different way than just the small sense of self. There was something a possibility that we could live with.”

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  34. “Would be chanting the chance of loving kindness so that by the time they got to their village, whatever had been destroyed, there was this sense that they were reclaiming not just the land, but they were reclaiming their own hearts.”

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  35. “That hatred never ends by hatred, but by love alone is healed. This is the ancient and eternal law. And they were sitting in the middle of the healing energy of the Dharma, of the teachings of the heart that can liberate us. Later on, Gosananda, who was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize a number of times, spent 15 years walking through the killing fields and the mined areas and so forth, leading people on foot back to their village. And he said to the refugees, you can't go back in a bus or the back of a truck or something like that. You have to reclaim your land with love. And so he would lead a thousand people and he'd be in the front with a bell and a gong and a few other monks. And the whole way back, they would”

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  36. “system in Cambodian and in Sanskrit or Pali, the Buddhist language. One of the first verses from the Buddhist texts that goes hatred never ceases by hatred, but by love alone is healed. This is the ancient and eternal law. And he chanted it over and over in Cambodian and in Sanskrit Pali. And pretty soon the chant was picked up and in a little while 25,000 people were chanting this verse with him. And I looked out and they were weeping, many of them because they hadn't heard their sacred chants for years. But also because he was offering them a truth that was even bigger than their sorrows.”

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  37. “And Mahagos Ananda sat there and he was a scholar. He spoke 15 languages. He was extremely Kind hearted human being who had suffered enormously and had transformed it into the kind of compassion that we think of with the Dalai Lama or something like that. In fact, they became friends. And Gosananda became the head of all of Cambodian Buddhism. But there he was at this point sitting looking out at 25,000 people who had suffered immense traumas. And you could see there was a grandmother and the only two surviving grandchildren that she had or an uncle and one niece and their faces were the faces of trauma and of survivors. And I thought, all right, what is he going to say to them? just in their presence. And then he put his hands together in this kind of modest way and began to chant in the microphone. Yeah, it sounds like”

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  38. “And he decided to open a temple in the middle of one of the biggest refugee camps. Here's 50 or 100,000 people, these tiny little bamboo huts. And got permission from the UNHCR, High Commissioner of Refugees, and built a platform with a little roof over it and put an altar with the traditional Cambodian Buddha on it and so forth. But it was a camp with the Khmer Rouge underground. Lots of them. And so they put the word out that if anyone went to be with this monk, when they got out of the camp back to Cambodia, they would all be shot. So we wondered who would, if anyone would come. Through the camp the day, the opening day with a big kind of temple gong ringing it, and 25,000 people poured into the central square around this little temple.”

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  39. “One of the people that I was very close to and inspired me profoundly was a Cambodian monk named Mahagosananda, who was the Gandhi of Cambodia. And when I met him, we were living and training together in a forest monastery in Thailand, and it was during the time the Khmer Rouge came to power and eventually killed two million Cambodians in a kind of genocide. And he survived because he wasn't in country, but all 19 of his family members were killed. His temple burned all the Buddhist texts and so forth were destroyed. And when he was able to, he went to the refugee camps. Refugees were pouring out of Cambodia by the hundreds of thousands. And he went to the refugee camp. On the border of Thailand and Cambodia, I was able to go with him at a certain point.”

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  40. “Will leave it. We can talk about death at some point if you want. What is this mysterious consciousness itself? So there is that. Then I also had the opportunity of being with a few other teachers and one of my”

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  41. “Turn your attention back and ask look to see who is the witness of these, what is the consciousness that is knowing these ever-changing experiences. This is where your liberation will come. He said become his language, if I translate it, is the one who knows, become the knowing rather than the experiences. And then you can tolerate anything and you can respond with love and understanding because you rest in the timeless consciousness which is your true nature. So part of what I also learned in meditation and teach is that it's not so much about the experiences, oh, I want to have this or that experience, but it's this profound turning back to ask, who am I? What is this consciousness itself that was born into this body?”

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  42. “Samadhis has a lot of meanings as a word, but it can mean profound states of concentration in which the mind dissolves into light or into joy or bliss or becomes absorbed with anyone of all kinds of states. So we went to the most famous teacher of that time, another Ajan Ajanman, and told him about all these experiences. And the master looked back into him and said, Cha, you missed the point. These are just experiences. You know, it's like onto the movies and you have a romantic comedy and you have a war movie and you have a documentary and you have... You know, a Disney movie said, they're just movies on the screen, some pleasant, some unpleasant. The only question is to whom do they happen?”

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  43. “One of them that's the most important. is that it turns out that it wasn't and it isn't so much about the actual experiences. So Ajan Cha, my teacher, talked about how in his elbow training for the first eight years in the jungle, he had been a very ardent meditator and had all kinds of insights into dissolving and samadhi and jhana experiences, all kinds of samadhi.”

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  44. “You know, Tim, I mean, what's kept you going? What keeps any of us going about things that we care about? I had somehow, I don't know, kind of a wacky, but I think also important kind of passion to say, I want to understand, or I've started down this road and I want to see where it goes. And I think all of us find at a certain point in our life that if we're lucky that something really matters and you've done it in your work and your travel, you want to explore what your human capacity is. And I'd read these old Zen stories and I said, I want to see if this is true. I want to find out. And then as I started, things started to happen like that out of the body experience and rapture and changes and openings. And I realized there's really something to learn here. But there are a couple other things that I want to add to this.”

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  45. “The medicine monk over, and in a couple days you'll be fine. And then he looked at me and he said, you can do this. You can do this. So, I mean, that was an example of wanting to go home to my mother. What am I doing here?”

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  46. “Oh, absolutely. I mean, and I remember I got what I think was malaria, I had a really high fever, and I was sick as a dog, and I'm lying in the bottom of my little hut there, high fever and shivering, and Ajan Cha came to visit me. And in the Lao language, and he was also funny and quite blunt. And the Lao language is a very straightforward kind of sentence structures are fairly simple. So he looked at me and he said, sick, huh? And I said, yeah. And he said, hurt's all over, huh? I said, it sure does. He said, hot and cold, yeah. He said, you know, makes you afraid. He said, makes you want to go home and see your mother, doesn't it? And I'm nodding there. And then he looked at me and he said, you know, this is the jungle fever. This is malaria. We've all had it. But now there's some good medicine.”

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  47. “And sometimes it's present, sometimes it's not, you know, as deep energies start to move through your body, they also kind of push open the places that are held closed so that when your heart starts to open in deep meditation, sometimes it feels like you're having a heart attack that's physically painful because all the all the things that you've held around your heart to protect yourself start to loosen. Or when the energy hits your throat and it starts to open, weird sounds come out, you know, and then you get to visions that come and the brow chakra, you start to see all kinds of colors and visions and hear things and all possibilities of the play of consciousness can start to open after both period of silence, but also of really deeply training attention and concentration.”

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  48. “Of becoming the sky within which everything arises and passes or the experience of profound silence or of the void where you enter a stillness before experience even arises or the experience of luminosity where my body would dissolve into light, their time sitting as you get concentrated in samadhi or concentration builds that your whole body and mind open up and you know first you get the elements your body can feel heavy like a stone the earth element or it can feel so light that you have to pique your open your eyes and make sure you're not floating because it feels like you're floating in the air or it can be filled with fire and you feel like you're in the middle of a raging fire or it can get icy cold you know or all kinds of vibrations and kundalini energies and chakras start to open”

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  49. “Well, First of all, the first experiences, even though I had experiment with meditation back in college and so forth, were experiences again that came through psychedelics. And so I was familiar with all kinds of weird and powerful and mysterious or mystical kind of experiences. But there's something about learning how to navigate it without taking a substance and learning that your own consciousness is the field that you can learn to navigate. First, all the personality and emotions and history and so forth, but then you start to realize that you're bigger than that, that who you are is not just your thoughts and feelings in your mind. And so whether it's out of body experience or the experience of that.”

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  50. “And all of a sudden I go, oh, that's me. And then I realized that I'm having it out of the body experience and what had happened is that I was so intent I'm not going to sleep long. I'll get up very soon. That intention was really strong. But my body didn't want to get up. So I got up. But it wasn't in my body. And I walked very slowly and I peered down at my body and I turned around and walked the other way. I walked back. And then the second time I walked back, I got closer and then I fell into my body and I woke up and I said, oh, wow, that's interesting. But what I saw out the window wasn't just like a dream because I was watching my teacher and talking to these other monks. And then I got up again and that's exactly what was happening. And that was the first of a series of all kinds of very interesting experiences that happened.”

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