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  1. Had issues in his own family. The Department of Children and Families in Florida investigated. The FBI was involved in this. The convergence of all these adult agencies that are designed around protecting innocent civilians and innocent students all failed in one form or another.

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  2. Not really. It changed. What I learned was that an 18-year-old can access, can buy a gun. I thought it was 21. So the state of Florida changed that law, and I think that's appropriate. We already have background checks. What I think the lesson of Parkland is beyond the issue of guns that is legitimate to talk about is how the adults all around Nicholas Cruz didn't do their jobs from the sheriff to the deputy sheriff who didn't go in trained to do so to the school superintendent that created, basically came from Chicago, implemented poorly, I'm sure, a second chance kind of strategy for kids, all of which sounds good, except this guy was way off, was already on the ledge. Who was sending messages that were clear signals of potential acts of violence?

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  3. Look, she got off to a bad start. We'll leave it at that. But I think she's done a good job. I'm going to be loyal to her because I know she would be loyal to me.

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  4. Reforming that across the board. I speak a lot of different places, a lot of liberal crowds, moderate crowds, nonpartisan crowds, conservative crowds, and I defend Betsy DeVos. And it's pretty amazing what people think of her. I know her to be a very compassionate and passionate person for particularly for kids that have been left behind traditionally.

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  5. Or even for public universities have dismal results as well, and they're subsidized by the taxpayers, and there should be some accountability there. That's probably done better at the state level. You can do that better. Florida has a really good example of that where they reward schools that improve their graduation rates. They take money away from schools that don't. What's happened, you know, when you do that, you end up getting more students graduating. But we have $1.5 trillion of debt now on the backs of students, and that goes other than paying your taxes. That's the first thing you have to pay. I think it's ending up deferring kind of life's journey.

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  6. I think there ought to be regulation for all colleges, and outcomes really do matter. So there are public universities, private, not-for-profit universities, and private for-profit universities that do really good work, and there's some that do bad. And the lever that the federal government has is the student loan program has been nationalized in effect, and it ought to apply to all of them. And when you have gainful employment formulas, put aside whether the exact means by which it was being done before and now how it's being done, you can argue about the benchmarks for that. It's important to have meaningful results. If you can't get a job and you're loaded up with recourse debt, there should be severe penalties. You should lose the ability to access this.

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  7. So, this is done at the state level. People are fearful of too much intervention. And frankly, the center-left, center-right coalitions around school reform have been tattered now because of this hyperpartisanship. It's actually created a contagion that goes into that as well, which is too bad.

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  8. He did. He did. But we've changed our standards, and there'll be further modifications. The important thing, commonality, Is fine. I don't have a problem with that. As long as there is a diverse, all sorts of diverse strategies to achieve the expectation of what those standards mean. And that was the intent of this. But high standards with accountability around those standards where you assess faithfully or you don't overtest, but you assess where children are and you develop strategies to make sure they catch up. All of that is really important to deal with.

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  9. It is. It's very much so. And so people began to believe that Arnie Duncan, he's going to be the superintendent of all schools. It was a total mess. And even today, there's the remnants of that.

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  10. So the Common Core standards were voluntarily created by 44 states or 46 or eight states to start with. And it was the National Governors Association, the state school officers. After I left. So this was an initiative that was done in the 2008 to 2010 timeframe. The President Obama endorsed it, which became kind of part of the problem because there was a notion that somehow it was federalizing standards, which was not the case.

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  11. Now that separate us. Robert Putnam and Charles Murray have written brilliantly on this subject. We are tearing our country apart without a debate. And education is the path forward to unite us again.

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  12. And a kid was preparing to take that test for the last time. If not, he couldn't graduate from high school. And the question was, I looked over his shoulder in the computer lab, baseball game starts at three, ends at 4.30. How long is the game? And the answer is not nine innings. It's obviously an hour and a half, and he couldn't answer it. Like, he's in 12th grade and couldn't answer that question. There's a moral imperative here. This child did not have, this young man did not have learning disabilities. He was a product of a system that just pushed him along without caring about whether he could do the basics to be able to live a productive life. So I'm passionate about this because I see this as one of the most important things that we can do as a society to make sure people have a chance to rise up. If not, these gaps in income and culture and all the things

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  13. And you see the great heroic efforts of teachers. You see teachers that have really kind of lost their enthusiasm for it. You see kids. I tell the story a lot. There's a kid in 1998 Florida had an eighth grade level high school graduation test. In and of itself is pretty depressing. Most states didn't have any graduation test

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  14. Foundation focuses on that. And as governor, I did as well. I did it as a candidate in 98. I did it in 94 as much. I went to visit 250 schools, which is kind of hard to do in a year-long campaign.

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  15. I think it's to your legitimate concern about the gap between people of wealth and people in the middle and people in poverty, how do we break out of it over the long haul? It's to give people, young people, the chance to achieve earned success. And you can't do that in the world we're living in without a quality education. And so many young people are left behind in an excused away, whether it's in Chicago or Miami. A third of our children graduate from high school truly college and or career ready. That's just not acceptable. And so you can, you know, the argument that on my side is the system doesn't work. The argument for people that support the system says you all are bad. The system works great. We need to get beyond that and say, whatever you think, if it's great or think it's bad, it doesn't matter. It needs to get a lot better.

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  16. Sure, but tax cuts are disproportionately going to higher income because they pay disproportionately higher taxes. One percent pays 40% of all the taxes. 10% pays 70%, I believe, of all the personal income taxes. So you can't have a tax system that doesn't, we're close to where 40% or close to that don't pay any taxes at all. So the issue is what do we do to create sustained economic growth where people can benefit, where you have rising income? And we've had rising income the last Obama year and the first two years of the Trump presidency, all of which is good. I mean, that gives people confidence that they can be successful. So training, regulatory reform, making it possible for new businesses to start up, all those things over the long haul, I think, are a better approach.

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  17. It's not either or. In other words, if someone's successful in the 1% or 10%, that is not at the expense of someone who's not in the 10%. So the issue is how do you deal with the middle class squeeze? I think that's the bigger issue.

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  18. I would have cut taxes to stimulate economic growth for sure, but I think we also need to have a consensus about how we reform our system of entitlement because there is no, it's not sustainable, it's $50 trillion of contingent liability, which means you extend the retirement age a month every year, you give working elders the chance to keep the employee portion of the payroll deduction you change the formula for how the payments work to make it CPI-based. You allow Medicare, you require Medicare beneficiaries of higher income to pay more. There's all sorts of things that you could do, but it requires a bipartisan consensus, and there's no effort. I mean, in 16, we had two candidates that said we don't have a problem.

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  19. They have. The principal reason why our deficits, you know, we have a structural deficit, 3% growth in a trillion dollar deficit is the social contract is all of the incremental increases in spending, almost all of them are Medicare, Medicaid, the unfunded portion of the Social Security retirement system. Those three, big three and increasingly the Obama care subsidies, all of those entitlements, if you're not going to deal with that, you can't be cutting taxes and expect that we're going to have a declining deficit, we're going to have an increased deficit.

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  20. So that lasted all the way into the mid 2000s. And when small complaint about our party is that we no longer are the party of fiscal restraint

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  21. Of course. And so, of their predecessor, even to this day. Fair game. But the reality is that that sacrifice politically yielded a good result. And by the way, that paygo was eliminated when Republicans controlled Congress.

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  22. I did. I actually opposed the idea for the reason that I wanted him to win. I mean, in retrospect, it worked. It created budget constraints that Republicans and Democrats adhered to for a long while, the pay-as-you-go issue created the environment where later on President Clinton could claim that he was the first president to preside over budget surpluses. It also had in it Social Security reforms.

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  23. The racial charge, if Willie Horton was white, there'd be universal recognition that that was a bad policy that was reversed by Governor Dukakis' successor, for sure. But adding race to the thing was what probably made my dad really uncomfortable.

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  24. Yeah, right after the Democratic Convention. You got to do the compare and contrast in politics, and there were some issues that I think really showed that Governor Dukakis in his time as governor was out of step socially and culturally with a majority of the country. And so there were three or four issues, one of which was the early release of prisoners or giving them chance to take weekends off in a convicted murder was allowed out. I mean, that That's like a layup in politics. Now, the problem is the racial

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  25. I think that's right, but underlying all of the Correct notions that my dad was a person of civility and of generosity. He was also a fierce competitor. And he was losing to Dukakis.

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  26. No, I got in the draft. It took 10 minutes to become 1A. Literally drive down to Houston, you put everything but your underwear on, they look at you, okay, you're in. That was basically it. And I was set to go to basic training three months later, and that's when Mel Laird eliminated the, or we went to the, my year was 25, the first 25, and I was like 28. So I didn't go. And then the draft was eliminated the next year. The Vietnamization process had taken hold. I always think about what would have happened had I been drafted. It would have changed my life because I was prepared to, I wanted to get married and I wanted to move on with my life and it would have shifted all that a little bit.

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  27. You probably had to make a decision to whether to go into the draft. I did go in the draft. You don't have a decision to do that.

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  28. Not really. I mean, I think he would have respected. I mean, I'm not going to change myself to the federal building because I didn't have any money to get out of But when people talk about how bad the world is right now, I try to remind them what this early 60s and early 70s were, where we assassinated presidents and civil rights leaders and there were riots and the protests in Vietnam. Imagine what would happen today if you had National Guard shooting students, as they did in Kent State. I mean, this was a turbulent time.

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  29. Yeah, so he was either, he was, when I was at Andover, he was CIA director or head of UN ambassador, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, or I think he had three jobs during my time. So the RNC chairman, all of which were... Tumultuous, fraught with all sorts of Challenges. And the environment up in New England at the time, particularly for college kids, was total engagement, total protest all the time. And students from my school were chained to the federal building as high school students. It was a very, it was a difficult time for a guy from Texas to go up to a school that was very cynical, very different than what I was used to. I didn't participate in the protests, but you couldn't have helped feel it's easy, the broad majority of the party.

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  30. Yeah, his life was threatened. And what I mire about what he did was instead of going into the witness protection program, which He stood his ground, told people why he did it. I think he earned people's respect for doing that. It's a good lesson. Were you around then or were you?

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  31. No, absolutely. Looking back on his career, there were a few things that really mattered. His relationship with Eisenhower was very strong and allowed him to be a pretty effective senator from Connecticut. And then challenging McCarthy in one of the first, I think Margaret Ch. Smith may have been the first senator to do that was something that he was known for and respected for.

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  32. He would come home from work and run the town hall meeting that made the decisions about the budget and other things. And from that, it led to the United States Senate, where he lost a couple of times too. So that experience. Family admission. Exactly

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  33. Well, I was like a kid when he was around, so we tried to stay out of his way. He was a stern guy. Yeah. His wife, my grandmother, was a lot nicer to be with. He was a nice guy, but he was a little more, he was a stern guy. When we talked a little bit about politics, he was very, you know, He shared a lot of the experiences he had. But we normally, our family's not like politically, we don't, I don't know, I never felt like it was all planned out. So he wasn't like the Joe Kennedy telling his children, okay, you do this, you run here, none of that stuff. For him, it was his first job in politics being the moderator of the, they had a town hall system in Greenwich. That's how they ran the, I think they still do that in some of the municipalities.

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  34. So, you know, look, you got the Gen Zs and millennials, which will be the dominant political force and economic force and cultural force already making huge differences in what we eat and the styles and what we watch. All of that's being driven now by younger people. My guess is that there'll be a spark in their generations that will be much healthier than what we have now.

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  35. Cultural contribution to our country. It's all about us and our feelings and the here, you know, everything's in the moment and all that. Culture is not, doesn't just march linearly. Life doesn't either. There's always the chance to restore the things in the past that are important. In fact, I think it's really important to have a sense of history and a sense of who we are as a nation. We can't just break ourselves up in our tribal parts and then be mean and ugly to one another. There'll be a point. There'll be something that happens that restores this. It's not an end of an era.

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  36. Did the same. But it was very moving. And so the whole thing was great. And the point, why there was so much interest in this is there was kind of a consensus this was a bygrown era. This was the end of an era. I want to ask about that. And that's wrong. That is totally, you know, look, we're so self-absorbed in the here and now that's kind of the baby boomer.

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  37. I think I said you fumbled on the two yard line, but you recovered and scored because he got to the very, very end. And I know I had to give the eulogy to my mom. I really struggle with this because you love your parents in big stage. You don't want to start crying uncontrollably. So the way I did it was no disrespect to President Obama and President Clinton. But they're on the other side of the room. So I'm looking out and I'm seeing the former presidents, not seeing my dad. And while I admire all former presidents, I didn't feel like I had an emotional connection, so I got through the talk. And I think George.

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  38. And he looks up and says, Just give me the trace. I'll get him in. That was my dad. He was the ambassador of the United Nations, and she said, that help got her through something she was really frazzled by everybody complaining and everything. And there are hundreds of stories that I've heard about just simple acts of generosity and kindness that really more than anything else defined my dad. And there are a lot of people that do that. It's just not in our culture now that's not viewed as something interesting.

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  39. Such a short period. It is, but they didn't leave anything on the playing field. I mean, they lived a full life, and we celebrated their lives during those four days when the nation took, pressed the pause button. And what was interesting was all of the stories that came out that I never heard. Two weeks ago I was in Mexico on business with my wife. were waiting to go back to Miami. This woman comes up to me and says, I got to tell you a story. My mom was a flyer.

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  40. It meant a lot. It meant a lot to all of our family. In fact, it helped us, I still miss my dad every day. I think of my mom or dad and just kind of, it just comes into our lives. And people that have had similar kind of experiences share that same thing.

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  41. It's eroded big time. That's not to say that individuals in our country are acting on their sense of consciousness to help others. There are so many examples, and people don't ask if you got an R by your name or D, by your name. The country at our best, we're a bottom-up country. And the more we focus on the talking heads in Washington who are obsessed about how the president's tweets, we ignore the fact that in Houston, Texas, they've eliminated homelessness for veterans. In Massachusetts, they've developed an incredible strategy to deal with the opioid epidemic. There are all sorts of phenomenal things happening not waiting for Washington to get their act together. And my dad was talking about each of us have a responsibility to act on our consciousness to help others and to be kinder and gentler about it. I think that's still alive.

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  42. I think someone should run just because Republicans ought to be given a choice, but I think you're probably right based on the premise you had that he has a strong loyal base and it'd be hard to beat him. It's hard to beat in sitting president, but to have a conversation about what it is to be a conservative, I think it's important. I mean, the And our country needs to have competing ideologies that people that are dynamic that focus on the world we're in and the world we're moving towards rather than revert back to a nostalgic time. I mean, I think the Democrats now are proposing new ideas, some of which I think are way out there. And if Republicans think they can just say that's bad and not offer a compelling alternative, that could be bad for us.

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  43. And when I heard it, I started to think, oh, I guess I'm here. I was introducing him and I was honored to be there. And I kind of got a sense that maybe this was an opening, at least for him to consider it.

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  44. It does seem like an uphill struggle, but I loved his inaugural speech because it talked about having to make tough choices and paying the price. His dad did it. He talked about John McCain. He talked about my dad and the civility and the courage to go against the tide at the right time, that integrity really mattered. It was a beautiful

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  45. Got to advance that cost. You can't just be they're bad, we're good. That's not a sustainable message over the long haul, particularly with our demographics as a nation.

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  46. No, I don't. He's done conservative things, but he's not advocating little Liberal democracy or freedom or liberty or entrepreneurial capitalism. That's not his message is them and us. They're bad. We're good. And that message has been successful for him personally. But meanwhile, back at the ranch, the conservative cause has lost its say. What's the interesting idea that conservatives now advocate? We've become reactionary. And the party that I've affiliated myself with in the conservative ideology that I believe in, I think is hopeful and optimistic. It's forward-leaning. It embraces science. It believes in the individual with the proper incentives can create more opportunity for more people than any government program created.

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  47. Never just, you know, we get into a mindset and we just assume that there's a new normal and it just becomes kind of, that's the way it's always going to be. It never is that way. There's always a catalyst of something that changes the paradigm, that changes the context and how we view all these things. And so what's the world look like without a positive conservative message?

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  48. So I would say, first of all, the net result of this could be that the gains that we made in the Obama era and the state legislatures, governors, statewide elected officials, that's been reversed. We lost control of the House. This was a nationalized election, and it'll be a nationalized election in 2020. So while there's a steady base to the president's credit, he's maintained that connection, there is an erosion in a lot of other areas that could make the Republican Party be the minority party for a while

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  49. Sure. And that's politics. But when people Particularly presidents who have a duty beyond policy of being the leader of our country, the leader of the free world, you remember the clich ⁇ that you tell your child when you're going through the White House, visiting the White House, if you work hard and you're looking at the pictures of former presidents, work hard, play by the rules, you can be just like it's him now, but eventually it'll be just like her. I'm not sure many people are saying that now. I think the symbolic, the kingly duties of the presidency, which the founders put the prime minister job and the kingly job together, that's where he falls short. And it's important. It's important during national tragedies. It's important in moments of crisis. It's important in the day-to-day creation of culture.

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  50. That's where I think they're wrong. I think you can honestly say he's done good things in terms of policy and applaud them.

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