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1. “Well, I can say one thing. It's very clear to me that when I did well against Jimmy Carter in 76, said, well, good, I'll just do it in 1980. This will be a breeze. Well, what I didn't calculate, first of all, that was not true. Jimmy Carter was far more formidable. And secondly, when Ted Kennedy got in, that was the time to exit because there were two giants, incumbent president and a Kennedy. No room for you. There was me from California. Forget it. But I was.”

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2. “And that stuck. And by the way, Governor Moon, because I'd like satellites, but part of it was I did jump around a bit. In politics, you have to be very predictable. The trouble is if you're too predictable, you're boring. And if you're boring, you're not going to get anywhere. But if you're too interesting, you're going to blow it. So somewhere between interest and boredom, you have to find the happy medium.”

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3. “I had a very unfornish apartment. It was like in some way very monastic, not much there. The cubicle that I had at the seminary, you have a little bed with a metal spring and you have a little cabinet with what we call a slopper. This is luxurious.”

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4. “But I recognize that Makara. And you can't do that. This is a much more down to earth, what someone said in politics, you sell more corn than caviar.”

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5. “First of all, Bobby Kennedy wasn't in. I joined with some people in August, well, we started in August of, when was this? This would be 67, the Democratic, we call the Democratic Council. And then that led to the Peace Late, 68. That was before McCarthy. We started the Peace Late, and we qualified signatures without a candidate, and then McCarthy became our candidate. And then we were in McCarthy. Remember,”

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6. “I'm just a new guy with nothing to lose. My father's the governor, Lyndon Johnson, help him. So we occupy different positions that affect the way we see things. So it was Watergate, it was Vietnam, it was people beginning to say the politics McCarthy talked about meat and potatoes. There was a certain psychic or maybe spiritual or people were looking for meaning. Maybe that's the word. A meaning in politics that had never been part of the equation under Harry Truman or even when Adelaide was running. Although Adelaide had a lot of thought and depth in his campaigns. Not that it helped him because Eisenhower mowed him down pretty darn good.”

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7. “Well, remember, this is the time we had the best and the brightest. We had John F. Kennedy, and we had George Bundy, and we had Dean Rusk. And we had all these bright Yale Harvard characters. And they got us into the Meyer of Vietnam. And that was a real stain and a big, I think, big error on the part of the best and the brightest. So that already started. Now, I started my skepticism when I leave the Jesuit order. I'm already now on a pathway of saying, hey, I don't know about that. And now the Vietnam War, which I oppose pretty early on,”

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8. “Well, they wanted me to be more of a back slapper and smile more, which I don't. I like to point out that Lincoln and Washington haven't been photographed as smiling very often either. But my father was more abelient, that was the word they used about him. And he had a certain style, but I was not just the son of my father, the son of my mother. Yes. She was rather, she was a little put off by politics. And she used to actually coin the phrase in regard to my father Pat's low comedy. And that's kind of what politics is. It is a certain amount of low comedy. And now I fully embrace that. But at the time, it took some getting used to.”

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9. “So no, it helps. And then it also helps that. When I ran for Secretary of State, there was no incumbent. And then when I ran for governor, there was no incumbent. In fact, I had five challenges. And in the primary, when you have a lot of challenges, that's good because they never can get very much attention in any one of them. And I did have the name. And as a matter of fact, when I started to run, I did some good as Secretary of State. I think I don't want to minimize that. But when I started to run, I think in the polls I was about 36%. After the Cameroon was over, I won by 36%. So the name helps, but it does take some skill. And you have to avoid, you can still put your foot in your mouth and do something stupid. So it's not a guarantee, but it is a gold card.”

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10. “Very light Very light, very small. The fact is, first of all, it's not just a name. Well, that's a big part. When I ran for the junior college board, there were 124 candidates, and I bought, I think, I think 20 billboards. I just put Edmund G. Brown for trustee, trustee of the community colleges of Los Angeles.”

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11. “The most powerful. And so they were talking about really thinking about it, but just reacting to that, to the hearing, I was very excited. I mean, my heart started beating. Wow. I said, man, that's just what I want to do. That was the moment. It was very clear to me.”

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12. “I decided that even before I became a lawyer Because I was studying right here, right back behind me on that stairway. Well, on the third floor, I was studying for the bar and I found it very boring. I used to fall asleep reading those damn law books. But I came down and was sitting up there just so you couldn't see me. My father was right over there behind you talking to Jess Hunter and they were arguing about who's going to run for governor.”

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13. “He was a builder and he believed that democracy that California could express itself through the public institutions. So, yeah, no, he didn't feel good, but in that, that was the beginning. Reagan was able to capture this antipathy to government, government as the problem. Government almost as the enemy. It's almost we're our own enemy. And this alienation from government, which obscures the protection of wealth and the manipulation of the powerful. That's kind of the state of affairs. And Reagan championed that.”

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14. “I remember being there. He was certainly not feeling good. That was a great disappointment. For him to lose to Reagan because he felt Reagan didn't really appreciate government and my father really appreciated what government could do in the form of the water plan, three new university college campuses, building a new classroom every day.”

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15. “Yeah, well, the problem with this thing, as I see it, it's working for the far left, the anarchists, they love this. This is catnip. For the far right, they love it too. So they're both, it's almost like Weimar Germany. The extremes love to tear the middle down. And the center is not holding. And that's what a country is based on, and that's why Berkeley's got to find a creative way to allow people to speak. It's just not right.”

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16. “I find it hard to react to her. But no, look, Berkeley has said we had some pretty, I saw on the Berkeley campus, we had a lot of speakers. So some people, you know, they used to say if you're a communist, you can't be employed in Berkeley because you're advocating the violent overthrow of the government. Well, end culture is not advocating the violent overthrow. But anyway, whatever it is,”

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17. “A number of people now say there's free speech, but then there's something called hate speech. And nobody likes hate, much less hate speech. But who defines the hate? And that becomes a very slippery term that can result in censorship and curbing the robust debate that what a university is all about. Now, I don't consider Anne Coulter a contribution to the intellectual life of America, not even close, but nevertheless, there are at the fringes cases where you've got to protect the speaker, even though it's more circus than intellectual inquiry.”

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18. “Yeah, he developed that issue to a fairly well. Now here we are today. Look, Berkeley was about free speech, obscene free speech that was offensive to a lot of people. So look, Anne Coulter and the anarchists. I encountered some of these people when I was mayor. So you have these polarized extremes, and I'm not saying Anne Coulter is violent, but she can stimulate and make a lot of anger and response. But they've got to be able to have free speech. This goes back to the days when the Supreme Court ruled out of a case in Chicago. Those who are fighting words. And Justice Jackson dissented, but the majority said you've got to protect the speaker, even though it creates a right. You've got to find a way to stop that. That is the Constitution principle of our First Amendment. And so Berkeley's got a...”

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19. “Well, just historically, when my father had sent the highway patrol to arrest 600 people on Sprawl Hall steps, that didn't help. Ronald Reagan really used that to create this specter that, you know, from the Watts riot to the Berkeley rioters, everything was out of control, including the state budget. So he was the man on the White Horse that rode in, and he really...”

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20. “That strongly, and we have to continuously work to overcome it. I think some of the feelings about President Obama reflected that separation between white and black. And it's part of what we were. We started with slavery. Washington owned slaves. Jefferson owned slaves. I think the chief justice owned slaves. This is another world from what we have today. And we still are under its shadow.”

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21. “Look, we've come a long way. Remember, at that time, we didn't have a civil rights law. So this was Kennedy was president. When I went there, Kennedy was president. So this was before November of 1963. And yet, we've come a long way. But the fact is, and this is something in the world of Twitter and instant communication, we lose sight of. Traditions and patterns of behavior hang on a long time. This country was started with slavery and wiping out of the native peoples that were here. Those things take a long time to get over. And when you see the Black Lives Matter movement, you find a lot of people still feel and experience in ways not what they were 200 years ago or even what they were 50 years ago. But there is still this separation of black and white.”

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22. “You know, I can't remember what I talked about. I doubt if I went there and did a Martin Luther King and Martin Luther and said, here I stand, what the hell are you doing?”

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23. “Because those days, governors were more collegial, and they certainly Democratic governors, and they would go to the governor's conference. So I thought, as long as I'm in Mississippi, I think I better check in with the governor. I thought it would be good protection.”

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24. “Well, I saw a world of complete apartheid and fear. And I experienced that fear. And it was palpable. And this was the year before the three civil rights workers were murdered. You can feel that in Mississippi.”

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25. “There was something called the Northern Student Movement at the time, and a guy named Vern Countryman came to Yale, and they were talking about come on down to the south. And I went there just for a few days. And that was long enough. I was glad to get out.”

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26. “Well, I think his La Date C, the encyclical on climate change in what he calls integral humanity, very fundamental. And the world we see now, it's so much about economics, the bottom line, the metrics of everything is how much do I get out of it and where does beauty or sustainability or nature or humanity, where does that fit in? I mean, it's so much business and money and gross domestic product. That's just a part of what life's all about. So I think the Pope and what he stands for, it's a very important corrective to the massive celebration of money, wealth, and GDP growth.”

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27. “Well, I was with him, and I didn't actually have a personal conversation, but I went to a pontifical academy in Rome where the Pope spoke. It was a climate change conference, and I spoke there too.”

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28. “No, I think I have a very questioning mind, I'm very curious, and I don't rest very long in a particular doctrine position. And so I was restless with what I would call the rather structured dogmatic world of pre-Vatican II. This would have been 1960. This was just about the time that John XXIII was coronated, was put in as pope. So it was the time of, I would say I anticipated this ferment of the 60s. So after I left, by the way, 80% of the other novices left. It took them a few years to get there. But there was a flowing out. Well, the priests, the brothers, and the neighbors. There was an exodus, and why that was maybe it's the increased secularization, the scientific pragmatism of the world. I don't know what it is, but I think I sensed some of that at the time. Experience”

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29. “You see, obedience in the ignation tradition has three elements. Doing what the Spirit tells you, very low. That's the first degree. Second is conforming your will to the superior. That's good, but not enough. Number three, conforming your intellect to the superior. So whatever he thinks you think.”

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30. “Oh, he was pre-television. Reagan knew how to speak on television. He was quite good. And my father was kind of a pre-television candidate when he ran for Attorney General the first time in 1946. They didn't televise campaigns. I don't even think they did in 1950. But yes, I am repelled and attracted. That is exactly true. I thoroughly enjoy campaigns. I liked running for president. I liked running for governor. I liked running for the U.S. Senate. I liked running for mayor of Oakland. In fact, I like almost any campaign. Don't tell me why. I can't explain that. Because in many ways, I prefer reading and reflection out on my ranch. Also, I'm very attracted to the contemplative life.”

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31. “Well, yeah, showmanship sounds more positive. What kind of dead rhetoric that is not inspiring? One of the reasons I went into the seminary, I was looking for what I'd say, a pure world, something on the spiritual pathway that seemed a lot more grounded, more real, more satisfying than what I perceive politics to be, which in the old days was backslapping. Now I derive a great deal of pleasure from it. But at the time, I was a little scandalized by the low comedy of California politics.”

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32. “No, the warren was after too. No, I was not excited by politics. I thought that some of the feelings I have now, I think there's a lot of exaggeration, insincerity, manipulation, empty kind of...”

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33. “It was in the breakfast room right here, and President Kennedy called and my father put me on the phone and I said a few words that are on the tape. I also was with John Kennedy came out here and he had breakfast here and then he went to the mansion and this was in 59 where he was seeking my father's support. But during that campaign I remember riding the car going through Oakland and I said”

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34. “Well, when I was Secretary of State, I met this long, been here over 30 years and was the state senator. And I was talking a lot of reform and attacking people. And this guy said, son, let me tell you something. You're attacking a lot of people. You're talking a lot. Why don't you just don't attack so many people? Every time you open your mouth, you make an enemy. Think about that. So I've thought about that for the last.”

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35. “No, well, one of the problems was Mr. Nixon on the train on the train back. Warren had some, I don't know exactly what he thought he was, maybe he was still a candidate for president. He'd run, remember his vice president. Four years before, but he felt that Nixon kind of did him in, did his own thing, and that left a feeling Yeah, but Warren was not a fan of Nixon. And so when my father was running against Nixon, he certainly was happy to see my father win. By the way, it illustrates in politics, watch enemies you make because they can do you in later. So that's the point about Trump. How many fights can you have? How many enemies can you make? And the fact is there's a limited quotient before you run out the score.”

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36. “Well, I can't remember everything he did bespoke wisdom, thoughtfulness. He was above it. And I think when he became Chief Justice, he really was a man of principle in a very powerful way. And as governor, he fought with the lobbyists. He wanted a universal health care bill.”

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37. “Was the essence of dignity. He looked like if you went to Central Casting and say, give me a governor, that's Earl Warren. And even I remember going duck hunting with him up in Calusa County, as a matter of fact. And I remember after we came in from the hunt, we were sitting around having a crab with Roquefort dressing. I remember very well, and you had to put a bib on. But he was very dignified in the way when you try to eat crab in a bowl of Roqueford, whatever the dressing was, but he was very different.”

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38. “Yes, he ran for district attorney. I didn't know it when I was one. But by the time I was 1943, I was a little older. I remembered it. And he won. And I was there at City Hall in January of 1944. He was sworn in, and the mayor was sworn in too. So, yeah, handing out these little cards with his picture on them. In fact, I remember the first campaign slogan here. It was crackdown on crime, pick Brown this time. I always remember that. I said, that's a good slogan. I can use that undid a...”

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39. “Yeah, you know, that's a dilemma. I wish I had an answer to that. I do think one's integrity in their life is important, but I think you also have to avoid the appearance of undue influence. And unfortunately, the whole system is under the influence of big money. And I don't want to whitewash that. That is the truth, and that is one of the dilemmas why confidence is being undermined about both parties. And by closing the deficit, by taking care of our roads, by protecting our environment, by protecting immigrants, by helping our school funds go to the least fortunate, I think all those things build trust. But I don't want to try to sugarcoat the fact that money is flowing in politics in a way that I think probably disturbs the idea.”

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40. “Well, I walked that line. I've been in office and I'm doing things and I've done, you know, I've raised taxes. How do you resist the information?”

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41. “And I will say, as a guy who wasn't in office, I can point the finger at everybody. Now, the longer you stay in office, all that same money flows to your campaign. So it becomes difficult to maintain the purity of an outsider position. And that is really the dilemma. If you have a total outsider, that person can't run the government. If you have a total insider, people feel he's so shackled by the status quo that they don't want him. And that's the dilemma that we are. We need someone with insider sense and knowledge, but an outsider perspective on representing the average American who has no lobbyist, who doesn't have the hundreds of millions of dollars, that many, many of the players in both parties have.”

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42. “I mean, it's unprecedented. The billionaires coming in, Wall Street, this was supposed to be an anti-Wall Street, an anti-establishment, but the same characters are still there. And that's going to breed a lot of cynicism, not maybe in the first six months, but over the next couple of years, that does undermine. And I think, I remember when I ran the first time, I mean, for governor in 74, it was not just Watergate. It was also the failure of Vietnam. We'd just been in a terrible war where two to three million people died, and we ultimately left, not the victor in any sense. And that left, what could we believe in? So I think we're back into that problem of where's the credible leadership, where's the intention?”

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43. “Do. I think they have to stay away from this whole association and being under the influence of the powerful. I think you have to be careful and be more modest in what you're doing. And certainly that's been what I came.”

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44. “Sure. Well, the trouble is money talks, and there's a lot of money in this country. We have a huge flow of capital. Those who are at the top, I mean, the CEOs now make $300 or $400 times more than their average employee. Forty years ago, it was 20 or 30 times. There's a gross and growing gap between the top and the rest of America. Now, the top is what plays in campaigns. Who's providing the billion dollars for a presidential campaign? Now, there are small donors, that's growing. Sanders had a lot of that. And Hillary had a certain amount of that. But the role of big money is a problem because government affects the flow of capital, and those who control capital are going to try to affect government. That's just called the influence, and I think people are damn tired of it. And whatever a politician can do,”

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45. “And I'm not going to call it a mistake for excess, but I'm not a perfect candidate, and I've certainly had politics is about, to some degree, excess and exaggeration and rhetoric, and we all are guilty of that at one time or another. But I'm not going to parse out when was I hitting true North and when was I over the top?”

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46. “Look, I mean, compared to what's come afterwards, that was patty cake. I mean, let's be real here. Bill was in the driver's seat there. He had all the strength that I didn't have. And I made some points, but I don't want to relive that. Bill and I have, I think, worked out a pretty good understanding. And I think the Clintons have done a lot for this country. And we all develop our scars, and I've done a lot of things. If I want to recount all my campaign, we call them mistakes or excesses.”

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47. “I think they need more of that right now. Well, Bernie Sanders captured a good deal of that. But yeah, that strain. Populism has always been a minority report. From William Jennings Bryan to even some of the people who have run for president, it never quite makes it. But we do need that position to stand up for the common man. That's what Harry Truman talked about, Roosevelt talked about that. I think we need to combine that with the sobriety of the mainstream that Americans look to.”

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48. “Well, you've got to run again. You've got to say, look, Wall Street is ripping us off. The fact is, the top is getting more and more. The middle and the lower realms of our society are suffering more insecurity, hard to get their kids in college, hard to buy a house, hard to keep a job, and globalization, whether you're in France or in Germany or in Michigan, it's a big problem. And I was concerned about that in 1992. That's why I opposed NAFTA. Now, I don't think protectionism is the answer, but if you're going to run for president, Trump did tap into a sentiment. He didn't have the answer, and he's demonstrating he doesn't have an answer. But you've got to deal with the fact that globalization as currently organized favors the 1%, the few at the expense of the majority. And that's going to undermine our whole system if we can't get a more aggressive.”

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49. “To tell you the truth, when I watched that primary campaign, it's not something that I would enjoy being a part of. The positioning to take down a quasi-incumbent like Hillary Clinton took a very sharp, relentless focused attack. And I don't know that there was a great debate there. And I don't know that I would have the appetite for that.”

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50. “Yeah, you just said getting out of the realm of what of our system, our constitutional system. These prosecutors roam wherever they want to roam. We saw that in Bill Clinton was president. So I think we shouldn't give up on our traditional institutions called the House of Representatives and the Senate. They have the tools if they want to rise above what has become a very narrow and I would say dangerous partisanship that is really not part of the original understanding of how America was to be governed.”

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