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Joanna Coles

lines on the record: 117
first: 2018-04-23
most recent: 2018-04-23
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“No, there was an editor in between Kate White who did a fantastic job for 15 years. When I got there, I was really fascinated by Helen's legacy and by happenstance she died the weekend before I got the job. So suddenly the obituary columns were full of her. I went back and I read all her books. I went back and looked at what she'd done with the magazine when she reinvented it in 1965. And it's easy, you know, in her last few years she became politically sort of incorrect in not a great way, but she truly was the great editor of the 20th century. Every contemporary, yeah, every contemporary magazine vanity fair, Cosmo Now all owe an enormous debt to the way she reinvented the consumer magazine.”
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“Yeah, and it's underplayed and undervalued a little bit more valued now. But at the time, it was enormous fun to be able to get serious pieces in a magazine.”
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“I had covered fashion a little bit for the London times, so I'd been to the shows and written about the shows. And I wasn't intimidated by fashion. I was curious about it. And also fashion designers are incredibly interesting people. And the ones that managed to marry creativity with commerce are exceptional people. Yes, absolutely. They absolutely are in New York, a bit like the sort of, you know, the valley tech entrepreneurs because they're able to do these two things really cleverly. So I was very interested in the fashion community. I'm interested in what I wear. I'm fascinated by the semiotics of clothes. So it was a great job. And Mary Claire has a lot of really good journalism about women.”
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“I moved up the editing, I joined New York magazine, I then became the editor of Mary Clare magazine, which was enormous fun.”
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“I have my second child. I have two sons like you. And I realize with the second son I could no longer cover stories at the drop of a hat and just travel as I had been doing. And so something I had to give. And it was really me. It wasn't the jobs for my life had just changed and we no longer jibed. So I moved into magazines thinking that it would be better for me to have more control over my schedule, which is in fact what happened. And I'm always mindful of, I get asked a lot by young women, how do you have any balance? And I always reassure them there's zero balance. They will never have balance. It's the wrong question. You have to embrace the chaos. But also that the more senior you become, the more control you have over your schedule and the more money you have, which really helps. And the more choices you get.”
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“Yeah, although I don't hang out with British people particularly, not because I don't like them, but I spent a lot of time hanging out with British people in Britain. And what for me was exciting about America was just this extraordinary, complex, difficult, fascinating country. And Britain can feel very small. London in particular feels small because everything happens there. So you have publishing, you have politics, you have finance, everything in Britain happens in London. And if you've lived there, as I had and worked there for 13 years, I was ready for new pastures. And also, the new media loves British people. I'm not entirely sure why. But we seem to thrive there.”
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“I stayed. I didn't want to go back to Britain. I had the opportunity to go back and follow Tony Blair and sort of be what we call the sketchwriter where you're writing about the Prime Minister every day. And I just suddenly thought, no, my business with America is not yet done. And here I am. It's been hard to get rid of me.”
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“25 years in an American jail. And then, of course, you had the terrible plight of the parents who'd lost their child. And it was unclear quite what had happened. The brilliant lawyering of Barry Sheck, who pointed out that the child could have been hurt in other ways for the Innocence Project. And so that was really the first story I ended up covering. And it was so layered and so fascinating and so sad in all ways. But it was a brilliant start to what became my total love affair with America.”
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“Yeah, about working parents, about the difficulty of finding great childcare, about young girls being put in positions they really had no experience and weren't ready for about the American justice system. And it was an astonishing story. It went on for what felt like a long time. She was sentenced to 25 years and then an in extraordinary judgment, Hiller Zobel, the judge, gave her time served. She spent nearly a year in jail waiting for her trial. And he let her go. and it was the most extraordinary moment even being in the courtroom i remember when she was sentenced and she collapsed at being sentenced and was gasping and hyperventilating and crying and weeping and her parents who'd come over from britain were crying and weeping because obviously this was the last thing they'd expected when they sent their daughter out on this adventure to be an au pair in america which in europe is sold as this incredibly exciting opportunity for young women and here she was in the worst possible situation”
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“Well, there was a lot going on. I mean, I had the good fortune to start at the beginning of the sort of process of Monica Lewinsky and the sort of impeachment process and what that meant for American politics. And really, I could write about anything, business, politics, American life. Well, there are stories that stood out to me, and one, of course, was the British nanny story who was accused of manslaughter, of killing a child who'd been in her care. And it was a fascinating story because it was a working mother, a doctor married to an Indian. They were living just outside Boston. And it felt like everything in the sort of moment that was yuppy in America at that time sort of following on from 30 something, coalesced in this story about this girl who was working for not very much money looking after their child. It raised everybody's anxieties across”
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“Well, I knew I always wanted to be a journalist because I wanted an excuse, not unlike you, Kara, to ask people questions. I'm just super nosy. I'm trying to understand what's going on. So I was a journalist. I work for the Daily Telegraph and The Guardian. The Guardian eventually posted me to New York where I moved 20 years ago and had the astonishingly good job of being able to wander across America at will, writing about interesting people I came across and following stories. And then when I had my...”
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“I should send a copy of her. You know where I should send it to? The new British Minister of Loneliness. Oh, right. We're going to get to that. Yes, I saw that we're going to...”
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“Where we lived in. It was in the north of England Oh no. I needed no further encouragement. And I've been doing it ever since, and the queen is still enjoying your work. I know you sent a copy of this to her because she needs some help. I should send a copy.”
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“Oh, it was my random jottings at the age of 10 with my great friend who lived next door. The two of us did it together and it was our observations on street life where we lived in. It was in the north of England and there was no street life. So we were very ahead of our time and able to write about nothing. So in fact we were precursors to the web. And then the Queen's lady in waiting wrote back and said she'd very much, Her Majesty had very much enjoyed reading it and was looking forward to further copies, which obviously that was the start of my career. Oh no. I needed no further encouragement and I've been doing it ever since.”
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“Now, look Well, I started in journalism. My first magazine I developed when I was 10. I sent it round to the neighbors. I also sent it to the Queen of England. It was called Your Choice. Of course, there was no choice on whether or not you received it. I actually conceived of junk ale. My father would laboriously photocopy it, deliver it to our neighbours with me. I sent it to the Queen. What was... What was that? What was the theme?”
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“That's right. That's exactly my food. I didn't get to eat at all. Joanna, we're talking about your book now. Look. Good. Last time I interviewed you, besides you discussing sex positions with me, which the only time I've turned red on stage, you were also running Cosmopolitan at the time, right? You had not moved to your lofty position. So let's give a little background of you for the people, because people are tuning in may not know who you are, although everybody in New York does. Give us a quick bio of Joanna Coles.”
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“And I want to reassure people that the chair really is red because they haven't seen the studio here, which is rather fancy.”
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