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“And what is the outcome of the process that decides it, both for the individual and for society at large? For instance, if you have a high trust society, you don't need a lot of surveillance. And the surveillance is even in some sense undermining trust”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It allows you to build teams. It allows you to Basically, bring the best of you into this thing and goes into a coupling, into a relationship with others in which you produce things that you would be unable to produce alone.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can be automated so people can write software for this. And eventually the idea is let's not make an assumption about this thing if you don't know what the right solution is in those areas where we have no idea whether the right solution will be people designing this ad hoc or machines doing this, whether you want to enforce compliance by social norms like Wikipedia or with software solutions or with AI that goes through the posts of people or with the legal principle and so on. This is something maybe you need to find out. And so the idea would be if you let the communities evolve and you just control it in such a way that you are incentivizing the most sentient communities, the ones that produce the most interesting behaviors and that allow you to interact in the most helpful ways to the individuals. You have a network that gives you information that is relevant to you. It helps you to maintain relationships to others in healthy ways.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Itself can become part of the protocol. So, for instance, it could be in some communities, it will be a single person that comes up with these things, and others, it's a group of friends. Some might implement a voting scheme that has some interesting weighted voting. Who knows? Who knows what will be the best self-organizing principle for this”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Social network, and these communities are allowed to mix and match their protocols and design new ones. So for instance, the UI and the UX can be defined by the community. The rules for sharing content across communities can be defined. The monetization can be redefined. The way you reward individual users for what can be redefined, the way users can represent themselves and to each other can redefine.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To control this game because I am certainly not an expert, but I can give my thoughts on this, and I Our brain is solved this problem to some degree, right? Our brain has lots of individual agents that manage to play together in a way. And you have also many contexts in which other organisms have found ways to solve the problems of cooperation that we don't solve on Twitter. And maybe the solution is to go for an evolutionary approach. So imagine that you have something like Reddit or something like Facebook and something like Twitter and you think about what they have in common, what they have in common. There are companies that in some sense own a protocol. And this protocol is imposed on a community. And the protocol has different components for monetization, for user management, for user display, for rating, for anonymity, for import of other content, and so on. And now imagine that you take these components of the protocol apart and you do it in some sense like communities within this.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something that social media could be doing that other forms could not be doing. I think the endgame of social media is a global brain. And Twitter is in some sense a global brain that is completely hooked on dopamine, doesn't have any kind of inhibition, and as a result is caught in a permanent seizure. It's also, in some sense, a multiplayer role playing game. And people use it to play an avatar that is not like them as they were in the sane world and they look through the world through the lens of their phones and think it's the real world. But it's the”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The reason why we are sitting here and doing this as a YouTube video is because you and me don't have the attention spent to write a book together right now. And you guys probably don't have the attention spent to read it. So let me tell”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, we should have billions von Neumann's Neumann's right now in Turings, and we don't for some reason. I suspect the reason is that we destroy our attention span. Also, the incentives are, of course, different”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, the miniaturization of transistors was really major. But the things that we did afterwards largely were not that innovative. So gradual changes of Scaling things into GPUs, from CPUs into GPUs and things like that. But I don't think that there are, basically there are not many things if you take a person that died in the 70s and was at the top of their game. They would not need to read that many books to be current again.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the probability is relatively low, given that our technology is, for instance, the US is stagnating since the 1970s roughly in terms of technology. Most of the things that we do are the result of incremental processes.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But of course, what Elon Musk is trying on Mars is not to save us from global warming because Mars looks much worse than Earth will look like after the worst outcomes of global warming imaginable, right? Mice is essentially not habitable.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this means even if you are healthy, fit individual within a few hours, even if you try to be in the shade and so on, you'll die unless you have some climatizing equipment. And this itself, as long as you maintain civilization and you have energy supply and you have foot trucks coming to your home that are climatized, everything is fine. But what if you lose large scale open agriculture at the same time? So basically you run into food insecurity because climate becomes very irregular or weather becomes very irregular and you have a lot of extreme weather events. So you need to grow most of your food maybe indoor, or you need to import your foot from certain regions. And maybe you're not able to maintain the civilization throughout the planet to get the infrastructure to get the food to your home.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And in between, you have very short distance which you run from your car to the supermarket, but you have to make sure that your temperature does not approach the temperature of the environment. The crucial thing is the bed barb temperature. The vet bubb temperature. It's what you get. When you take a wet clothes and you put it around your thermometer and then you move it very quickly through the air so you get the evaporation heat. And as soon as you can no longer cool your body temperature via epovapaporation to a temperature below something like, I think 35 degrees, you die. And which means if the outside world is dry, you can still cool yourself down by sweating. But if it has a certain degree of humidity or if it goes over a certain temperature, then sweating will not save you.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but it basically means you wake up in acclimatized room, you go to work in a climatized car, you work in the climatized car, you shop in a climatized supermarket.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I imagine that people use it when they describe how they get meat into a supermarket, right? If you break the cooling chain and this thing starts.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“By itself, it's not a big issue. If you live in Arizona right now, you have basically three months in the summer in which you cannot be outside. And so you have a close cooling chain, you have air conditioning in your car and in your home, and you're fine. And if the air conditioning would stop for a few days, then in many areas, you would not be able to survive, right?”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's also not clear if we as a species co extinct, but I think that our present civilization is not sustainable. So the thing that will change is there will be probably fewer people on the planet than are today. And even if not, then still most of people that are alive today will not have offspring in 100 years from now because of the geographic changes and so on and the changes in the food supply. It's quite likely that many areas of the planet will only be livable with a closed cooling chain in 100 years from now. So many of the areas around the equator and in subtropical climates that are now quite pleasant to live in will stop to be inhabitable without air conditioning.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's very likely that nothing that we bet on matters. After we win our bets, so I don't think that bets are literally the right way to go about this.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Could say the entirety of life did it, you know, the first cell never died. The first cell only split, right? And every divided, and every cell in our body is still Instance of the first cell that split off from that very first cell. There was only one cell on this planet as far as we know. And so the cell is not just a building block of life. It's a hyperorganism. And we are part of this hyperorganism.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If trees were intelligent, then they would be at different timescales, which means within 100 years the tree is probably not going to make models that are as complex as the ones that we make in 10 years.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there will be memories of us. I suspect we are the first generally intelligent species in the sense. We are the first species with an industrial society because we will leave more phones than bones in the stratosphere.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To get out of the ground, put it back into the atmosphere in the Earth is already greening. So within a million years or so, when the ecosystems have recovered from the rapid changes, That they're not compared with right now. This is going to be awesome again.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The big stain on evolution is not as it was trees. Earth evolved trees before they could be digested again, right? There were no insects that could break all of them apart. Cellulose is so robust that you cannot get all of it with microorganisms. So many of these trees fell into swamps. And all this carbon became inert and could no longer be recycled into organisms. And we are the species that is destined to take care of that.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe the reason why lions have much larger brains than antelopes is not so much because it's so hard to catch an antelope as opposed to run away from the lion. But the lions need to make complex models of the environment. More complex than the antelopes.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's an evolutionary adaptation playing a role at all of these levels. For instance, if mice don't get enough food and gets stressed, the next generation of mice will be more sparse and more scrawny. And the reason for this is because in a natural environment, they mice have probably hidden a drought or something else. And if they overgraze, then all the things that sustain them might go extinct. And there will be no mice a few generations from now. So to make sure that there will be mice in five generations from now, basically the mice scale back. And a similar thing happens with the predators of mice. They should make sure that the mice don't completely go extinct. So, in some sense, if the predators are smart enough, they will be tasked with shepherding their food supply.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In our time scale. So basically, if you would zoom out very far, we might discover that there have been intelligent ecosystems on the planet that existed for thousands of years in an almost undisturbed state. And it could be that these ecosystems actively relate to their environment. So basically change the course of the evolution within this ecosystem to make it more efficient and less brittle.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it relates back to this original question. I suspect that we are not the smartest thing on this planet. I suspect that basically every complex system has to have some complex regulation if it depends on feedback loops. And so for instance, it's likely that we should ascribe a certain degree of intelligence to plants. The problem is that plants don't have a nervous system. So they don't have a way to telegraph messages over large distances almost instantly in the plant. And instead they will rely on chemicals between adjacent cells, which means the signal processing speed depends on the signal processing with the rate of a few Millimeters per second. And as a result, if the plant is intelligent, it's not going to be intelligent at similar timescales as yes.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, this big organism would become a vegetable that is barely alive and it's going to be very brittle and not resilient when the environment changes.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, what we try to do is we try to let our children survive, even if they have diseases. I would have died before my mid-20s without modern medicine. And most of my friends would have as well. So many of us wouldn't live without the advantages of modern medicine and modern industrialized society. We get our protein largely by subduing the entirety of nature. Imagine there would be some very clever microbe that would live in our organisms and would completely harvest them and change them into a thing that is necessary to sustain itself. And it would discover that, for instance, brain cells are kind of edible, but they're not quite nice. So you need to have more fat in them and you turn them into more fat cells.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Especially in the US, super expensive to have. And you only are taken out of this if you are basically super rich or if you are super poor. If you are super poor, it doesn't matter how many kids you have because your status is not going to change. And these children are largely not going to die of funger.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So you can have only so many children as you can feed, and if you have more, they die. And in our societies, you can basically have as many children as you want and they don't die. So the reason why we don't have as many children as we want is because we also have to pay a price in terms of we have to insert ourselves in a lower source of dreadm if we have too many. So basically everybody in the under middle and lower upper class has only a limited number of children. Because having more of them would mean big economic hit to the individual families.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think the definition of poverty is that you have as many children as you can feed before they die, which is in some sense the state that all animals on earth are in.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, in some sense, we burned 100 million years worth of trees to get everybody plumbing. And the society that we had before that had a very limited number of people. So basically since 0 BC, we hovered between 300 and 400 million people. And this only changed with the Enlightenment and the subsequent industrial revolution. And in some sense, the Enlightenment freed our rationality and also freed our norms from the pre-existing order gradually. And with a process that basically happened in feedback loops, so it was not that just one caused the other. It was a dynamic that started. And the dynamic worked by basically increasing productivity to such a degree that we could feed all our children.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There is a suspicion. I of course don't know how it plays out. It seems to me that in a society in which you leverage yourself very far over an entropic abyss without land on the other side, it's relatively clear that your cantilever is at some point going to break down into this entropic abyss. And you have to pay the bill.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And our culture is not sustaining this anymore. We basically made this fat with the industrial revolution that we can control everything. And the modernist societies with basically unfettered growth led to a situation in which we depend on the ability to control the entire planet. And since we are not able to do that, as it seems, this cultural die. We realize that it doesn't have a future, right? We called our children generation Z. It's not very optimistic”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Try to find out what people mean by spirit. When people say spirituality in the US, it usually is refers to the phantom limb that they develop in the absence of culture. And a culture is in some sense, you could say, the spirit of a society that is long game. The thing that becomes self-aware at a level above the individuals where you say, if you don't do the following things, then the grand-grandchildren of our children will have nothing to eat. So if you take this long scope where you try to maximize the length of the game that you are playing as a species, you realize that you are part of a larger thing that you cannot fully control. You probably need to submit to the ecosphere instead of trying to completely control it. There needs to be a certain level at which we can exist as a species if we want to endure.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Same is true for people. So people have spirits, which is their operating system in a way, right? And there's aspects of that operating system that relate to how your body functions and others, how you socially interact, how you interact with yourself and so on. And we make models of that spirit. And we think it's a loaded term because it's from a pre-scientific age. But it took the scientific age a long time to rediscover a term that is pretty much the same thing. And I suspect that the differences that we still see between the old word and the new word are translation errors. Over the cent”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's basically a description of what the plant is doing in terms of macro states. And the microstates, the physical implementation are too many of them to describe them. So the software that we use to describe what the plant is doing, the spirit of the plant is the software, the operating system of the plant, right? This is a way in which we, the observers, make sense of the plant”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Organism is not a collection of cells, it's a function that tells cells how to behave. And this function is not implemented as some kind of supernatural thing, like some morphogenetic field. It is an emergent result of the interactions of each cell with each other cell.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so everything that's more complicated than a molecule that just is a vortex around attractors that needs a Turing machine in it for its regulation. And then you bind cells together and you get next level organization, an organism where the cells together implement some kind of software. And for me, very interesting discovery in the last year was the word spirit because I realized that what spirit actually means is an operating system for an autonomous robot. And when the word was invented, people needed this word. But they didn't have robots that they built themselves yet. The only autonomous robots that were known were people, animals, plants, ecosystems, cities, and so on. And they all had spirits. And it makes sense to say that a plant has an operating system, right? If you pinch the plant in one area, then this is going to have repercussions throughout the plant. Everything in the plant is in some sense connected into some global aesthetics like in other organisms.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so basically we do this because every cell has a Turing machine built into it. It's like literally a read-write head on the tape.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In many regions, we do, and we try very hard because when we are in direct competition, we lose, right? Because the combustion is going to close the entropy gradients much faster than we can run.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some sense life exists because of the market opportunity of controlled chemical reactions. We compete with dump chemical reactions and we win in some areas against the dump combustion because we can harness those entropy gradients where you need to add a little bit of energy in a specific way to harvest more energy.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Play here about it's basically an extraordinary attention that we have for faces. I don't think that people with opposnosia have per se a defective brain. The brain just has an average attention for faces. So people with posoagnosia don't look at faces more than they look at cups. So the level at which they resolve the geometry of faces is not higher than the one than for cups. And people that don't have prosobagnosia look obsessively at faces. For you and me, it's impossible to move through a crowd without scanning the faces. And as a result, we make insanely detailed models of faces that allow us to discern mental states of people.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Also, governments which impose loss functions on different parts of the brain. So we have differential attention. Some areas in your brain get specially rewarded when you look at faces. If you don't have that, you will get prosopagnosia, which basically means the inability to tell people apart by their faces.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the right time depends on the context that this neuron exists in, which is the electrical and chemical environment that it has. So it basically has to learn a function over its environment that tells us when to fire to get fed. Or if you see it as a reinforcement learning agent, every neuron is in some sense making a hypothesis when it sends a signal and tries to pipe a signal through the universe and tries to get positive feedback for it. And the entire thing is set up in such a way that it's robustly self-organizing into a brain, which means you start out with different new one types that have different priors on which hypothesis to test on how to get its reward. And you put them into different concentrations in a certain spatial alignment. And then you entrain it in a particular order. And as a result, you get a well-organized brain.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Move to the third stage, right? The third stage would be meta learning. Find an algorithm that discovers a learning algorithm for the given domain. Our brain is probably not a learning system, but a meta-learning system. This is one way of looking at what we are doing. There is another way if you look at the way our brain is, for instance, implemented. There is no central control that tells all the neurons how to wire up. Instead, every neuron is an individual reinforcement learning agent. Every neuron is a single celled organism that is quite complicated and in some sense quite motivated to get fed. And it gets fed if it fires on average at the right time.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think one big aspect is going to be meta learning and architecture search starts in this direction. In some sense, the first wave of AI, classical AI work by identifying a problem and the possible solution and implementing the solution, right? Program that plays chess. And right now we are in the second wave of AI. So instead of writing the algorithm that implements this solution, we write an algorithm that automatically searches for an algorithm that implements this solution. So the learning system in some sense is an algorithm that itself discovers the algorithm that solves the problem, like Go. Go is too hard to implement it the solution by hand, but we can implement an algorithm that finds the solution.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The degree of coherence that you need to achieve depends, of course, how deep your models go. That is, for instance, politics is very simple when you know very little about game theory and human nature. So the younger you are, the more obvious it is how politics should work, right? Because you get a coherent aesthetics from relatively few inputs. And the more layers you model, the more layers you model reality, the harder it gets to satisfy all the constraints.”
2020-06-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source