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Kevin Kelly

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“We all have mixtures of talents in us that actually need external tools to help us express things. And so I am interested in kind of increasing that pool of possible tools in the world so that all of us would have some chance to really expressing our genius and fully becoming ourselves. And that includes like having clean water and education and access to transportation. Those are all the fundamental tools in addition to the kind of high tech stuff. But I really do believe that all of us have a unique genius. Every evidence I've seen in the world and people around the world suggests that that's true. And so if I can at all unleash people to attempt to fulfill their best self to be more of their selves, to be fully them, then that would be a success for me.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really, I want to emphasize this idea of fully becoming yourself and the difficulty and the challenge that is to discover with that is and how powerful that is. And that's true whether you're making starting a company or becoming a artist or a teacher, whatever it is. And the reason why I'm very pro on technology is I think it enables us, helps us generally to become more of ourselves.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is one little piece of advice at the very end, which maybe sums up. The assignment, which is kind of your goal in life, is to be able to say on the day before you die that you fully become yourself.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And so in China, there is a little bit of more of a herd mentality. Where people read it because other people have been reading it and need to read it. And so most of my fans are actually in China, you know, I still was going there on a regular basis giving talks about the future of X and Y and the major difference there was that they were actively listening. And then executing and doing this stuff. They were so eager to build and to get ahead of, you know, we were talking about whatever it is, blockchain, whatever. Okay, we're going to start doing blockchain. It was like they were absorbing it and actually acting upon it rather than just kind of, oh, that's a nice idea. They were really looking for things to do. So it had huge influence in that way.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly talking about it. Right. And that's primarily why it kind of disseminated from that. And then all my other things were translated and I became the prophet of, you know, with internet or something because I was talking about these things. Before there was the things. And so”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was crowdsourced. Yeah, so there was one guy, and all to one guy, a real true fan, and he organized the crowdsourcing translation of it. And it came out at the right moment that Jack Ma and Ponima were beginning to build their, do their internet things. And it was hugely influential on them. And they talk about the book. So every entrepreneur in China has to read the book because Jack Ma recommended it.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was an accident. I wrote a book. Out of control in the early 90s that was ignored in the US. It was way too early. It was just too early. It was talking about decentralized system. I had a whole chapter on crypto in 1994 that actually that I gave to Steven Levy and assigned him to follow up. And he later wrote the book on the crypto stuff, crypto not being the money, but mine was about digital money. It was just too early. But it was translated into Chinese. At the beginning of the aughts, I don't know, 2006, maybe five. I don't remember exactly. And it was actually crowdsourced translated, which was even more interesting.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is a tendency, the normal approach to kind of like organizing your life is that you want to kind of be productive. So you want to get through the things that you need done the most productive way in the least time as possible. But I find it's better to kind of shift over to say, what are the kinds of things I want to do? They want to spend as much time as possible doing. That, to me, is the focus. It's to shift from minimizing the amount of time on things, but to maximize the amount of time to do things that you don't ever want to stop doing”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Different experience. I was thinking of the productivity. There was one little bit of advice. Actually, I was telling this to David Allen of all people, who was the get things done guy. Of course.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. You have little tiny peephole. Oh, there's some books there about astronomy, but no, there was like this huge world. So for me, that's, but anyway, I liked your idea of watching people execute at work And not having to produce them, that would be a tremendous sabbatical or true sabbatical.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On YouTube, and within days, they'll have an improvement. And it's going this fast, and like years and years of waiting to a paper being published and a paper, it's like, how can you do it? So it's just incredible accelerate. And the problem, not the problem, but the thing about YouTube, it's all invisible. It's not like a bookstore where you see what's there. You have no idea that this is happening. And it's like, it's tremendous.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All the above. Sometimes time lapses than just in the shop. Sometimes they're giving lessons. Sometimes they're showing a technique. Sometimes they're walking through it. Some record their mistakes, some don't. I mean, I subscribe to so many that it's hard to generalize. But the point is that why I think it's underappreciated is that it's an accelerant on the learning, the process of people discovering something, putting it up, other makers watching it, seeing, oh, that's a good idea, modifying it. putting their version up and then two days later someone else has improved it and brain surgeons are using this right now where brain surgeon will have an operation they'll be filming their operation they have a little bit of a technique improvement that they'll watch other brain surgeons or watching brain surgeons”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like people restoring cars, people making boats, people making clay things, people making, just watching people make things. And because I'm a maker and because I learn so much by watching people work much more than you ever learn in a book.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Would actually be very challenging. It would be. It's right. Yeah. So, like, you have to watch somebody. But, you know, I do that every evening on YouTube Again, I could rant about YouTube forever because I think it's way underrated for an influencer society.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Learning. And so it's sort of like you want to go in a different direction. And I did a sabbatical once where I just read books and it was like literally it's all I'm going to do. I'm going to get up in the morning. I'm going to read books and I'm not going to do anything else. And that was really different from my normal behavior, but incredibly powerful. And by the end, I just had, I went into travel because I had to, you know, this is like blue magazics. I had to go. But that sabbatical of like only reading books and reading books all day long and I could read them with like about an average of a book a day because some books are really short and some were really long. I mean the synapse associations that you get from reading book after book after book, you begin to think that they're all talking to each other, the authors, it's like they're talking about the same thing. They must have known about each other. It's impossible. But you have this sense of this all knitting together.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the structure and rhythm from what you normally do. And so our temptation, those of us who like to make things, is to make something different, but that's not really sabbatical. We're kind of in the same rhythm.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An annual vacation. I think six weeks is probably to me like the minimum for a sabbatical, but man, it could be very effective in six weeks. For me, I've done things like doing art is something I like, you know, in the old days, professors would get sabbaticals and they would do their own project that they were working on. Go to a school somewhere or have a visiting appointment. Travel is a very, very common one. For you, I think your effort right now to work in animation and stuff. I guess the general pattern is you want something that's different.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it's interesting because my wife, both of her companies she'd been at, she was at Genesis for 30 years and she's at 23 Me Now, Genesis had a sabbatical program, an official one. It was six weeks every six years, which is basically a European vacation.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Must have loved that. I was a manager. No, were you the only management? We don't have to be labor the point of just imagining why did seven people quit last week? They've been talking to that, Kelly. So I think it's essential. And so your question of like.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“College and their first job and like, no, don't. There were people that wired that came right from college in seven years, they were still there. It was like, I sit down like, why are you here? You should not be here. I mean, it's like, when was the last time you goofed off or wasted time? So no, I'm a big believer.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, this idea of, I think, goofing off. Wasting time, sabbatical Sabbaths, taking a Sabbath are all essential to the creative life. It's almost like sleep. You just have to do it. And it does it by rejuvenating you and shifting your perspective, by releasing you from, I mean, there's just so many things that it works on. And most, I think for me in my own experience, the best things I've done came after, you know, taking shifting. It's like the clutch when you're shifting. You want to put the clutch in. Otherwise, you just kind of grind. So I think it's really valuable. And again, not just every seven years, which is a technical sabbatical, but like Sabbath's like vacations, but more importantly, time off and goofing off. I find that the young people, believe it or not, the ones that I am associated with don't goof off enough. They go right from.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I'm a huge fan of sabbaticals, and I think I had some advice in the book. I put it, I think we overemphasize our productivity and efficiency. But the best thing for your work ethic is to have a rest ethic.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not so much for me. It is if other people or also can gain and find ways to repeat these things and improve their lives, that is success for me. So I would hope that a young person like me would hear some of this advice and be able to encapsulate it and repeat it to themselves and make their lives better. That would be a success for me.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I did all the layout. There was a thousand pages. Each one has a different design. I did the whole thing. And there's nobody who enjoys that book more than me just going through it. Of course, I was there, but I made up one prototype book like this book Here is a prototype. And all I wanted was one book. If there was no other books made, I would have been happy. But since I was making one, it's so easy to make others. And so it's like, if I can share with you, send it to my friends, that makes me even happier. So the success for that was having the book. This one.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. Well, I have an assistant, and when I get stuck, I'll start to explain to her my thing. And then by the end, it's like, wait a minute, I get it. I was like, I didn't need you, but actually I did need you just to walk you through it.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I see these things, and it was a blast. It was a lot of fun. Thanksgiving day, we went into San Francisco and rode the cable cars, which we had never been on. Yeah. And it was the perfect day because there was nobody else on them. It was Thanksgiving Day. It's a way of, again, I favor things to help you learn, giving you experience and treating your own neighborhood is a great way to do that.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that's how you do it. We homeschooled our son for one year, and part of that home year of homeschooling, we weren't home. We were traveling. And again, it was this idea of where would you like to go? You get the kind of set. Some of the things. And that was total engagement. You want to make sure it's invested.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Been ready to go. I guess I would say it was not an issue that we had they were up for, particularly, again, if you have something that's surrounding their own passions and interests.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anagrin Gables, and there was a series of books And it was based in Nova Scotia. And there was kind of a big following about that So our song was interested in dinosaurs when he was very little. Okay, we're going to go to all the dinosaur digs and dinosaur museums and dinosaur excavations that we can find. And that was the theme. And they were very engaged in that vacation. We were in an RV and we were going around visiting dinosaurs because that's, so the kid, the child got to pick.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Try new things. Another thing that I think is really good for travel is almost goes somewhere at random. I mean, literally like our policy for a family was to follow passions and interests rather than destinations. So every kid, we would say we're going to follow your passion for our education this year. Whatever you're interested in, if you're interested in Anne of Green Gables, okay, we're going to go to Nova Scotia and visit all the Anna Green Gables sites.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, no, one of the bits of advice is, you know, like a vacation plus a disastrous equal to an adventure. So I, one of the times I rode my bicycle across the US was from Vancouver down to Mexico. On the coast, and I rode with my son, who was a teenager. And I had his nephew, who was a teenager along. That was an incredible experience. And doing that together, kind of like an adventure together was tremendous for them because it took them out of the San Francisco bubble and could see the real world. And again, was a learning experience about overcoming doing things that seemed hard but turned out to be things that you just could do. I would say, yes.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They were paying attention, but they couldn't process it at the time. So the experience was there and they would reprocess it over time and it would become more and more valuable as they had more and more to kind of interpret it. And that trip, which I kind of thought was a failure at the time because they were sort of not really appreciating it or actually grew in importance. And so don't be dismayed if you take your kids on a great adventure and they're kind of like not impressed or they're not changed or whatever. No, no, no. They haven't yet been able to process it and they'll process it over time.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just art projects helping in the garden, doing chores together, I would say travel is undoubtedly one of the best learning experiences so much that I think as a nation we should subsidize travel, but as a family, if you can afford it. And I don't mean that's like going on vacation. The kind of travel I like is where you are learning. It's kind of like a learning experience as an experience. And oh my gosh, does that so powerful? And I would say one thing about it, they've learned doing it, and that is that I was a little concerned when we were doing very intense travel with my kids at a younger age. They kind of at times Seem to be paying attention. They seem not to be aware where they were kind of maybe wanting to stay in their hotel and play cards or things like that.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We've made go karts. We've made gingerbread passels. We've made Styrobot. I don't know if you're one of my office Styrobot with my son who was made from recycled styrofoam. It's with nine feet tall.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I've seen is a couple things. One is making things together. And I'm a maker. And so I have to kind of, or he gets me a better instincts to be too involved or take over too much, but to really allow that kind of cooperative joint making together. And it's fun for the kid and it's fun for me. And you get to see frustrations or becoming frustrations, making mistakes or recomming mistakes. There's a tremendous amount going on both for them learning and me learning about them and that togetherness is really great.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't know enough about this generally, but I can only tell you what we have done ourselves. And for me, that's a lot of that.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you can get there, they know something that would just blow your mind. So that's my assignment when I go to a party. It's like that person knows an amazing amount of something, but it's not going to be obvious, but don't tell me.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I actually use that in a similar form of the question at dinner parties when I'm sitting next to Buddy. So one of my bits of advice is that almost everybody knows a lot more about something than anybody else around them. And so I will sit down. It's like, what do you know more about than most people? And it's like, I feel it's like my job to kind of find out what that is. And it's not obvious. It's not always obvious. You kind of have to work at it. It's always amazing.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's no competition, and it's easy for you. You're doing it, you're not looking over your shoulder, you're just right there. So don't aim to be the best, be the only”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You want to be doing something where it's hard to explain to your mother what it is that you do. It's like, what is it? Wow, it's not quite radio. I don't know. It's like talking. And so that's where you want to be. You want to be the only. You want to, and that's a very high bar because it requires a tremendous amount of self-knowledge and awareness to get to that point to really understand what it is that you do better than anybody else in the world. And for most of us, it takes all our lives to figure that out. And we also, by the way, need family, friends, colleagues, customers, clients, everyone around us to help us understand what it is that we do better than anybody else because we can't really get there by yourself. You can't do thinkism. You can't figure your way there. You have to try and live it out. And that's why most people's remarkable lives are full of detours and dead ends and right turns because it's a very high, high bar. But if you can get there, you don't need a resume.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, one of my favorite bits of advice that can be expanded, which is don't aim to be the best, be the only. Category of one, right before us, you are living that, even if 10 years ago, I don't know when you started your podcast.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's when I started for myself. One thing that has surprised me is that there's been no overlap in people's favorites, no overlaps in people's favorites. I don't know what to make of that, but anyway, that's what it is. So I'll tell you some of my favorites. When you're in your 20s, you should spend a little bit of time doing something that's sort of crazy, insane, unprofitable, unorthodox, orthogonal, because that's going to be your touchstone. and the foundation of your success later on. Try and deliberately don't try for something successful or crude. Do something very, very strange and weird. It's kind of like to the other bit of advice of like the thing that made you weird as a kid can make you great as an adult if you don't lose it. I mean, this is like”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Far away. I tried to make them as practical as possible, actionable, not conventional. Positive, if at all possible. And short. You can find no better medicine for your family than regular meals together without screens.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And actually, I realized afterwards, although it was not in my head at the time, but it's very tweetable. These are tweets. And so they work at the kind of attention span of a young person these days. They transmit well. So the version you have here has about another hundred that aren't even in this.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I thought that now that I was writing it down, that I should give them advice. So I began this idea of trying to extract out and put into a little handle something encapsulated that I could give to my kids. I did a bunch when I was 68 on my birthday. I kind of released it to my son at that time, who was a young adult, just becoming a young adult. And a lot of people loved it. And a ricochet around the internet. I did it for a couple more years. And I realized that had a lot to say. But it's kind of scattered around the internet and I thought it would be really handy to have it in a book. So I made a prototype myself, just made a little book. I made five copies and I sent it around to see if it was kind of worked as a book. And this book also has my little doodles in it. And it worked. And so I sent it to a publisher. They loved it. They didn't like the doodles. And it said no art by you. Sent a portable form.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was just kind of a filter to really make sure it passed that hurdle because eventually they will be tomorrow morning. And so I would say I got this invite. Oh, that's kind of interesting. Good. Would I do this tomorrow morning? So this kind of making it into some portable way that I could remind myself very easily. And I start getting the habit of writing these down. And I realized a lot of it was sort of advice I wish I had known earlier. I have three kids. And the way of our parroting was the opposite of helicopter parony was very hands off. And we did not give them much advice ever. When I was growing up, I didn't really pay attention to what my parents said. I paid attention to what they did. And I figured that's what our kids were doing too. So we try to model behavior rather than to say it. So neither my wife I ever really gave much advice.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I would write down bits of advice to help me change my own behavior. I liked it to kind of reduce something that I could say to myself, to repeat to myself, to remember something as a way of changing my behavior. And that kind of encapsulation and reduction to a little tiny sentence for me was like a handle to grab hold of it and bring it forth when I needed it. And an example would be, if I know I have something in my household and I can't find it, then when I finally do find it, I'd say to myself when I'm getting ready to put it back, don't put it back where I found it, put it back where I first look for it. So I have my flashlight, put it back where you first look for. So I'm reminding myself that. And so I would start to write things down like another one would be if I'm invited to do a talk or go meet somebody or have coffee, whatever it is, I would say to myself, would I do this if it was tomorrow morning?”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I have a doctor friend who runs a popular pediatrician site Ask the doctor these questions and he has trained it on all his 20 years of answering questions to his patients to do a chat And it works pretty good. And as they say, better than no doctor. And that's just on his is literally just trained on his replies. And I think more of that will become even better. So whether we get to the point where we can do the deductive reasoning or the transfer learning, I don't know because we haven't really seen that much. So that's one scenario is we suddenly make another big innovation leap and we have another besides just being able to synthesize pattern stuff. We can actually do these other kinds of cognition, that would be huge. But there's no evidence that that's going on. So another scenario is just that we have more of this on a larger scale, more pervasive, more tailorized, kind of like in the way that probably there have been no real advances in social media in the 10 years it's been around.”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, again, I think one of the things that might we might have a much more tailored version of this. So going back to the attempts to train it on your own stuff or to maybe have a more customized version of stuff that you want. So it's maybe relatively the same level, but... Tailored and customized to what you do and how you do it”
2023-04-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #669: Kevin Kelly — Excellent Advice for Living · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly So, what's happened in the 30 years since then? The state of the Oculus, whatever, it's about the same as what I saw with Geraldineer. But it's a million times cheaper. But it really isn't a million times better. I don't know. I think this is the time for scenarios. I think I could have a bunch of different scenarios rather than making a prediction. Sure. And one of the scenarios is that it doesn't get exponentially better, but it just gets exponentially pervasive.”
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