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  1. “I'll be honest, I still do it myself where. If I'm at home and don't have a work thing that I got to deal with and I don't have kids and I don't have my wife or my family around. I don't often cook for myself. I actually love going to a bar by myself. I have a glass of red wine and don't have a starter appetizer. I just have like a main meal. And I just take in the energy of the space. It was my restaurant or someone else's restaurant. I just take in the energy And it's so much better than being home and turning the TV on? No, no, no, no. I want to be out in the restaurant. I want to feel the energy of the town. The other thing that restaurants teach me is they're the front lines of... Economy, or what's the better word for it? It's like this front lines of the energy of how things are going.”

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  2. “You feel heard like I said earlier, people going through a divorce, they don't know where else to go. These are mostly men. Sometimes women will do it, but mostly men will do this, and women have other ways of processing it. But they want a place to be sad and want a place where they could feel comfortable talking about it. They're certainly not going to go into too much detail, but they just want to say something. And the bartender is there for them.”

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  3. “Exactly. It's a really good exit. So bars are wonderful. And I love going to a bar by myself after work. Might have a squatch, might even not even have alcohol, just have something. And maybe I'll have a snack or something before dinner because I'm going to go home and have dinner with the family. And that 20 minutes. It's just an amazing state change from daytime to nighttime. If I went straight home, I'm still in my head and I'm just trying to get grounded. And I'm just, I'm not as pleasant of a person. This is another powerful”

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  4. “The table is when you connect with people, learn about each other. Bars, you can sometimes do that. You can talk left and right, but you have the freedom to always break free You can say, okay, I'm going to go back to my meal. It's kind of like a friend you can turn on and off at any time. Because at the bartender knows that they're trained. Like, if you want attention, I'm going to give it to you. If you don't, I'm going to stay away. If you want to be chatty, I'm going to be chatty. You want to be completely in your head. I'll leave you in your head.”

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  5. “Yeah, you can tell. And you mentioned being at the bar one of the most gifted bartenders really understand that. It goes beyond. But what's also great about a restaurant, it goes beyond the one-time experience that you walk in and have that experience, is the good bartenders, they remember you. You were in a few months ago, and this is kind of your thing. You might need a little time. And other people will come and they want a conversation. Or other people come in and they're going through a divorce and they just want to be sad for a moment, have a squutch. And it's like it's amazing what you learn in the restaurant world to just be connected to humanity”

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  6. “Think the thing that I absolutely love about running the restaurant, not eating it. I've been running the restaurant is the tangible reaction from people. And you also kind of know when you screwed it You also know when you got it right, so even it's kind of a weird way to say this, but even if a customer's unhappy. You know whether you got a right or wrong. It's not just about the food you're making, but it's about the person's psychological state. You'll do something that you're like, you know that was not done well. And their psychological state is just in a very happy place and they love it. And you're like, huh, interesting. That's not how I would have reacted to that dish. And then the other way around, you'd like, no, I got that right. And that person is just like really unhappy today.”

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  7. “You do it and apologize there, but that talks to that kind of what's the crazy thing that could happen. It's subtle, but it's still there.”

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  8. “And coming through the back door of the restaurant, which is you're not allowed to come through the back door of the restaurant, a marching band from the school, the university comes through the restaurant, you know, full-on brass band and the whole thing And he gets down and he proposes, and it's beautiful, sure, but it's also like. Man, this is chaos. This is insane”

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  9. “I got to tell the story. So just to talk to the craziness of being in the restaurant world where you're sitting at a table and anything can happen in the restaurant. So there's one time 15 years ago. This guy comes up to us and says we'd like to propose to his wife, his girlfriend. And so we said, okay, cool. We've done this before. We'll make sure it's all set up. 6 p.m. kind of reservation. So she shows up and we give her a glass of champagne. We didn't obviously didn't want to spoil a surprise. So we're just doing everything we can. But then he doesn't arrive. And they were like, oh, man. Now we're like, don't leave. Can we get you another glass of chemical? And we do everything we can because the guy was obviously earnest earlier just stuck in traffic or whatever.”

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  10. “Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Totally right. I mean, you know, look at the cowboy hat. I mean, actually, I'll take my hat off when I want to have a quiet meal and I can leave my hat on when I'm.”

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  11. “Well, first, definitely eating with people. So that makes it a good one. So eating as a restaurant, it doesn't have to be my restaurant. We have the energy of people around you, energy of the town, people you don't know creates a little bit of a vibe. You mentioned the watering hole analogy that animals like sipping at the water, but there's an energy to that because they're also like looking around going, am I just about to be eaten? So they're all in it together, but we need to have water, but there's also a little bit of tension as well in the background. And I think that's what restaurants do. Very, very subtle version of that. Your inner room with strangers. And you're a little cluster. Okay, fine. You guys are connected. But you're in a room of strangers, and it's just something that adds that energy to the meal”

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  12. “Yeah, it's actually, I think it's one of my most powerful life lessons is we have to eat. So it's not like you have a choice. You have to eat. And so what I choose to do is I choose to make it a gift to myself for each meal. And most of the time the best gift is with friends, with family. So I'll cook some scrambled eggs in the morning with my daughter or have dinner with our family. To me, it's a gift we give ourselves three times a day, you know, at least, but for the most part, three times a day. Let's make it a good one.”

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  13. “I love it. I think that I've talked to a lot of Austinis who've been here forever and I'm like, man, you've got to hold us accountable. We got to keep this place weird”

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  14. “And then something as simple as what's the most fun thing you've done recently and what is the most fun thing you're looking forward to. And I have gotten into with those prompts, I've gotten into hours-long discussions on God. I've gotten into hours long discussions on love. I've gotten into hours-long discussions on It's actually amazing when people are just asked the question, like, what's the most fun thing you've done lately? Well, why would anger come up? Well, actually, they're in a vulnerable place, so it'll just kind of come out of them.”

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  15. “Absolutely. In fact, One of my favorite things to do is you do like a Jeffersonian style dinner. Let's say five or six people, sometimes you can people will break off into individual conversations. That's actually when things break down. So that's when you kind of go back to small talk. Like, oh, I'm stuck next to this guy. I'm just going to do a little small talk. You need to do to really create a great conversation is one conversation at the table. And that's where there'll be some simple questions that I'll say, what's your middle name? And you'll be amazed at the stories you get from that. But it's about creating vulnerability. So they were like, oh, no one's ever asked me that before. So then they become vulnerable”

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  16. “Yeah, exactly like, let me just be nice while I totally disagree with this person. You can do that for a few minutes. You can't do that for two hours.”

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  17. “Yeah, exactly. I like the term play with them because what you're not trying to do is shut the conversation down. You're also not trying to...”

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  18. “But I didn't want to interrupt his. He had to say. So I let him talk for five minutes, six minutes, seven minutes. And again, you're there for a while, so you're not in a rush to jump in and argue. And then I shared that I was there. And I think because I had been willing to listen to him He was willing to listen to me And I don't know if he changed his mind, but it was actually a pretty cool conversation to kind of get into each other's mind.”

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  19. “And I was like, huh, so I was at 9-11. I mean, I watched Tower 4. I was there, physically there. So it's like, no, I left you.”

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  20. “And I think that's a big difference. I've had one time where, just a couple months ago, I had someone sitting at the community table. We have a community table in the restaurant. And he was, I didn't know him too well, but he asked me, did I know that 9-11 was a conspiracy and it didn't really happen?”

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  21. “And I see this in my restaurant, in the kitchen, and Boulder, where we have every viewpoint or we go to Denver, every viewpoint in Chicago, every viewpoint. And the physical presence of someone being right there is people are just very different, absolutely different to what they are online. I think we all know the difference between, you know, you send an email to someone and they misunderstand the email. And you're, oh, if I just talk to the person, it would have been fine. Well, this is now happening at scale with all of these, what do you call, trolling or whatever. And I've sat at the bar and I've had... Hardcore Trump supporter, and I'm just curious. Tell me what, I'm not a Trump supporter, but tell me more. And it actually draws the conversation out because you're there for an hour or longer. There's no rush to get the answer.”

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  22. “Yeah, but I think alcohol is different because when you use these standing when you're doing alcohol, so yeah. You're socializing, but you're just going to stay in more in the small talk zone. Whereas if you sit down,”

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  23. “I think what kept me cooking, what made my love of cooking so great, was actually the fact that we would sit down. And be present with each other. And I'm also just hard with that too. So I also get to be present.”

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  24. “So that was a disaster. But at the time, it tasted good. The men. The real magic, which I also found was wonderful, was when I cooked a brother, my sister, my mom, all very, very busy, very intense people would sit down. And we would have a meal together. And I was like, wow, this is a powerful thing that I've now got where in no other way could I have that connection with my family. I mean, obviously we stay connected, we're very close sector, but in no other way can we sit down and just talk about things or talk about whatever's on our mind or just to just not even talk, just to be at the table together. And I've done that now through my whole life, my kids, still for my family, and we will do gratitudes at the beginning of our meal.”

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  25. “Right, exactly. But I tell the French point, which was a disaster, so I cooked the French fries, but I didn't heat the oil first. So I just put the potatoes in the oil and I waited for it to heat up. And I just was throwing up later that night, your body can't ingest that much because it sucks the oils”

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  26. “Of all, I think that also kicks off the magic If you screw it up and you're like, oh, maybe this is not for me. For me, it really did kick it off.”

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  27. “Can I cook? And she said, Yeah, if you want to cook, no problem. So I went to the grocery store and back in those days as a butcher separate to the grocery store. And I went to the butcher and I said, what can I cook? And he pulled out a chicken. And he said, this is the easiest recipe for you. Just put it on a pan in an oven, a hot oven, because back then the ovens weren't necessarily like 400 degrees or 450 or whatever. and put it in a hot oven for one hour and enjoy. That was it. So I went home. And actually, I also brought some French fries. I'll tell you that as well. So I was like, I'm a kid. Of course I want French fries. So I did roast chicken was French fries. And the chicken came out and it was just fantastic. Absolutely fantast”

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  28. “I started cooking when I was 11 years old. My mom, she's wonderful, but she's self-admittedly a bad cook. But at the time, I think anyone with kids goes through this. Your kids just want something that, like, spaghetti bologna or a burger or something. And my mom would do brown bread, plain yogurt, and boiled squash. Absolute most disgusting things that a child could imagine eating. And so I said,”

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  29. “So my compliment for my brother was just bringing joy and social connection. And he's truly, he's an engineering genius. I've worked with him forever and we do complement each other.”

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  30. “Totally right on like most parties, not parties, but most events you go to are like clubs, these sort of nightclubs. And I never go to those. And my joke is why would I want to go to a place where I pay to shout small talk in the dark?”

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  31. “I think we are a good compliment. I'll talk for myself first. My strength is definitely on the social side. I love the gathering place. And I love putting people together in person, and I love to have vibrant debates and conversations. I've been doing that forever, including Springfield parties and stuff where I bring people together and I really kind of want people to have fun, but be vulnerable, not just silly partying, just all connect. But definition for me of a good party is people laugh and cry. I want to have people have an emotional connection. I go to Burning Man every year, and that is no question. You will cry at some point during Burning Man. No small.”

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  32. “Is a critique that my friends give me, which is when they're talking to me, I kind of just drift away. I'm still looking at them. Still nodding, might even respond to them in their conversation, but I'm actually not there And I've realized that actually that grew up because my father would just. Abuse is one way to say it. It is abuse, but it's more just verbal diarrhea for you for hours and constantly saying, do you understand? He wants to make sure that I'm paying attention. So I trained myself to look like I'm paying attention, but I'm not.”

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  33. “I thought you were going to say. What most people say, but then you said the second part, which is make up for his mistakes. And I think that's actually that one rings true for me. It's a liability, but I'm not connected to him. But he's very, he taught me, the phrase I used to have was he taught me what not to do. Still actually learnt a lot. What kind of human not to be? What kind of actions not to take? And so that kind of closer to living up to his mistakes, but my father is such a train wreck that it's not really mistakes. It's like intentional actions of what not to do. Okay, don't do that.”

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  34. “I always say to people who have an opinion about America that, no, this is a really bad country or whatever. And I say, look, please go try another country. Before you say that. Not to say that America can't get better, but please go try another country because not having that perspective or having a perspective that, I don't know, they'll catch up on their shoulder about the country that they're in. Okay, go try another country and then come back and tell me pick any country. It doesn't have to be some very violent country. You go pick any country and you just realize that actually the world doesn't think the same way that America thinks. And you're going to just learn a perspective that I think gives you a better way to critique where we live in America.”

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  35. “Yeah, I think I've had a near-death experience where I almost died. I was in 2010. And I think that, and I broke my neck and I can go to that story in a moment, but this was different. This comes back to the low value of human life part, where if someone had killed my brother, if that person had beat him to death, which he was trying to do. Life would have gone on. That's like an insane thought in an American, maybe in some tough neighborhoods, but for the most part, it's another thing.”

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  36. “I mean, it was horrible I think coming back to the point of low value of human life, they try to kill him. It wasn't... There was no holding back. I just watched someone. It wasn't just one, but there was a main person, and then there was a few others that piled in. They just try to kill them in front of me. And we were eating sandwiches on a staircase at the school in outdoor staircase. And I just have to, they were not coming after me. I just had to watch and I couldn't help. One of the saddest, most difficult Experiences just was just awful.”

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  37. “I do love that we all live longer and so forth, but we should live longer with the goal of joy. And the goal of happiness and peace, not some form of misery that you choose to attach yourself to.”

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  38. “Can really enjoy it. I mean, I think there actually quite a nice insight. I've never really put it that way, but I think that's right, actually. I think you just chill out a bit. Takes things a little less seriously.”

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  39. “Lower value of human life is a real joy. Like everyone is like, well, I mean, it's beautiful. We have dinner with black friends, you know, friends with their family, and we're still pretty young. And there was just a real joy to it.”

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  40. “It will live, grow up in a place where that human life is not valued. There's something about the, there's a little bit less of the social vacuum created because everyone is kind of expecting everyone to potentially be taken out at any moment. But then there's also a beauty to it because there's a much more of a celebratory element when my cousin Russ and I, we again, we're stupid kids. We shouldn't be doing this, but we go into the townships where all a lot of the violence would be happening. We really didn't see most of the violence there. It was in these more protests and so forth. But there's a joy that also comes from...”

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  41. “I've heard this before, which I think I agree with is when someone is killed, someone is taken from our lives, the vacuum that it creates, the social vacuum, is extraordinarily painful. And it truly is true. I mean, if someone in my community passes away, it's very, very sad for me. When you go to a place where”

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  42. “16 or 17, and I could get up as a train, and everyone is trying to get me to get off because you know they're all behind me. So I step off and I step into the pool of blood, one foot Then I just walk for about 100 paces while the stickiness of the blood just kind of for my sneakers just on one foot leaves a footprint behind me. And you just walk on.”

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  43. “I was getting off a train, and it's a very violent train known for violence. We were stupid kids. We didn't really listen to our parents. We went on this train and the doors opened and I had people trying to get off the train. And in front of me, two black people, one black guy just stabbed this knife in the side of this other black guy's head. What the? And you just I got to get off the train.”

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  44. “I think it was. So I grew up in apartheid South Africa, but more specifically the fall of apartheid. So it was the 80s. I was a teenager in the 80s. And our community would Of our social life, frankly, was the anti apartheid protests and to go be with white people, black people kind of mixing it all together. Most formative experiences, frankly, how much I appreciate a place like America where we have value for human life. That was a country where human life was not valued. It's a weird thing to come from that to hear where. We take it so seriously if someone dies in a war or something like that. And we just Take it seriously in South Africa. People died. I saw someone killed in front of me.”

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