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Konstantin Batygin
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“That is common to all of us. That is absolutely what makes us human, right? And I'm in a privileged position of being able to have that be my job. I think as time evolves forward, the kind of economy changes. I mean, we're already starting to see a shift towards that type of creative enterprise as being, as emerging, taking over a bigger and bigger chunk of the sector. It's not yet, I think, the dominant portion of the economy by any account. But if we compare this to like, you know, some time when the dominant thing you would do would be to go to a factory. Do the same exact thing, right? I think there is a tide there and things are sort of headed in that direction.”
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“That's right. I've met people that are, you know, that claim to be anti science, right? And yet in their anti-science, you know, discussion, well, like if you're so scientific, then why don't you explain to me how, I don't know, this works. And always, there's that fundamental...”
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“It's part of the human condition, right? Human beings are fundamentally. Feel like sort of stochastic and fundamentally interested in Kind of expanding our own understanding of the world around us”
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“Yeah, it's weird because, like, you know, my understanding, and I'm not like, I don't know the history of science well enough to speak very confidently about this. But the... Advisor of my advisor of my advisor from undergrad didn't have a PhD. I think it was a more common thing back in the day, even in the academic sector, to not have Faraday. Faraday didn't know algebra. And Julu diagrams about magnetic fields. Faraday's law was derived entirely from intuition. So it is interesting to how the world of academia has evolved into a, you got to do this and then get PhD, then you have to postdoc once and twice and maybe thrice. And then you move on. So I do wonder, you know, if we're If there's a better”
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“Of the world. In fact, I mean, this is somewhat along the lines of what I'm talking about. Getting good grades is important, but grades are not a tangible product. You cannot Show your A and have your A live a separate life from you. Code very much does, right? Music very much takes on, you know, provided somebody else listens to it, right? takes on a life of its own. That's kind of what I mean, right? Doing stuff that can then get separated from you is exceptionally attractive, right? It's like a fun”
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“So much of their focus is on getting straight A's, filling their CV with this and this and this so that it looks impressive, right? That is not, I think, a good way to optimize your life, right? Do the thing that fills your life with passion. Do the thing that fills your life with interest? you know do that perpetually right a straight a student you know is really impressive but also you know somewhat boring right so so i i think you know injection of more of that kind of um interest into into the lives of young people would go a long way and just both upping their level of happiness and then just kind of ensuring that looking forward they're not Suffering from a perpetual condition of, oh, I have to satisfy these check boxes to do well.”
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“I'm not like a career coach by life coach. I'm definitely not a life coach. I don't have it all figured out. But I think there's a perpetual cycle of. Thinking that there's kind of like a template for success, right? Maybe there is, but in my experience, I haven't seen it. I would say people in high school, right?”
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“And so, like, doing that again in middle school in the US. It was arguably easy because I was like, yeah, well, I've already done this before. So I think it kind of prepares you mentally a little bit for switching up for whatever changes that will come up for the rest of your life. I wouldn't trade that experience really for anything. It's a huge aspect of who I am. And I'm sure you can relate to a lot of this.”
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“Oh, absolutely. But you kind of do that and then you kind of, then you just kind of are okay with stuff. You know what I mean?”
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“Kind of like just when I run into trouble, not like money trouble, just any kind of trouble these days, it just kind of is not particularly meaningful when you compare it to that turbulent time of the early 90s. And the other thing is I think there's like an advantage to being an immigrant, which is that you go through the mental exercise of changing your environment completely early in your life, right? You go, it's by no means pleasant in the moment, right? But like going into Japanese elementary school, right? Like I didn't go to thing. I just went to a regular Japanese public elementary school. And that was the non-Japanese person. In my class, so just like the learning Japanese and just kind of that's a”
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“Yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. You know, I think it's, you know, it was an important and formative period. I sometimes, I guess, rely on that a little bit in my daily life because I remember the early 90s were real rough. parents were kind of on the on the bottom of the spectrum in terms of financial well-being so”
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“I remember how on the commercials, like the Big Mac would kind of bounce. Was like the seeds, how do they inject the seeds into the bread? Amazing Right. So I think it was”
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“I enjoyed the fact that, I mean, this is like, this is getting into the Wii's, but I really enjoyed the fact that the top of the bun had those seeds.”
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“A big deal of the West, absolutely. So, I mean, we went to McDonald's and we stood on, I mean, this is absurd, right, from kind of looking at it from today's perspective, but we stood in line for like six hours to get into this McDonald's And I remember inside it was just like a billion people and I'm just taking a bite out of that Big Mac. And we're like, wow.”
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“Like an intellectual property theft. And remember, Pepsi. Arrived to the Soviet Union first. And there's some complicated story which I don't quite understand the details of. For a while, Pepsi like commanded submarines or something. Yeah, Pepsi had like a fleet of Soviet submarines that it was sponsored.”
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“So came to the US in the very end of 1999. But so I was like almost 14 years old. But along the way, we spent six years in Japan. So we moved from Russia to Japan in 94 and then to the US in 1999. So I did like elementary school.”
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“That's right. No, we will sharpen up definitely, especially coming up to a game. It's like, you know, we're not trying to make money with this. This is like just for that satisfaction of doing something and doing something well. But overall I would say most I play guitar most days most days and when I put kids to sleep I play guitar with them and we like just makeup random songs about our cat or something you know like we just”
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“That is nothing more than disservice. And also, like, I have some social media presence, but I mostly stay off of social media. You know, just frankly, because like I don't enjoy the mental cycles that it erupts.”
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“Those moments of inspiration are actually kind of rare, right? Like most of the time, all of us are just doing kind of doing the stuff that needs to get done. If you do the disservice to yourself of saying, oh, I'm inspired to do this calculation, figure this out, but I've got to answer email or just like do something silly.”
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“Busy, so I would say, you know. The way that I optimize my life is I try to do the thing that I'm passionate about in a moment and put that at the top of the priority list. There are moments when you just feel inspired to play music and if you're in the middle of something, if you can avoid, if that can be put on hold, just do it, right? There are times when you get inspired about something scientific. do my best to drop everything, go into that mode of that isolated mode and execute upon that. So it's a chaotic, you know, I think I have a pretty chaotic lifestyle where I'm always doing kind of multiple things and jumping between what I'm doing. But at the end of the day, it's not like...”
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“Yeah, it's definitely both. Yeah. And also just. I love to play guitar, love to sing, you know, my wife tolerates my screeching singing, you know, and even kind of likes it.”
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“It's absolutely, I would say, it's a thing that enables the science, right? The science would, you know, suck even more than it does already without the music”
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“The confidence and kind of like moodiness, right? Yeah. Yeah, look, I mean, music plays an absolutely essential role in everything I do because I stop playing for one reason or another, say I'm traveling, I notably lose creativity in every other aspect of my life. View playing music as a separate endeavor from doing science or doing whatever. It's all part of that same creative thing, which is distinct from, I don't know. Pressing a button, or like, you know, so it's not a break.”
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“Absolutely. I have no confusion about being anywhere. In that lean, but it's just like sometimes think about music that is being produced. Today feels oftentimes feels like kind of like clothes that you buy at like H&M and you wear it three times before they rip and you throw away. So much of it is not bad. It's just kind of forgettable, right? Like the fact that we're talking about Pink Floyd in 2000. Is in itself an interesting question. Why are we talking about Pink Floyd? There's something unforgettable about them and unforgettable about the art that they created.”
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“There are a lot of bands that you can kind of say, Oh, yeah, like if you take Blink 182, right, if you have no idea, like if you are listening to sort of that type of pop punk for the first time, it's difficult to differentiate between Blink 182 and like Sum 41 and the thousand of other lesser known bands that all sounded, they all had that sparkling production. They all kind of sounded the same, right? With Pink Floyd Hard to find another band that you're like, well, is this one pink floor? Like, you know. When you're listening to what you're listening to”
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“Wrote that. It is one of the most introspective pieces of music ever. You know, I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan. And so I think, you know, if you were to, you can sort of look at the entire dark side of the moon album as, you know, getting pretty close up there to the pinnacle of what, you know, can be created. So, you know, time's a great song. Great song.”
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“I think strawberry feels forever. You know what one of my favorite Beatles songs is? It's, you know, in my life, right? It's hard to imagine how whatever 24 year old”
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“I don't want to answer in terms of just technical prowess. I think technical prowess is impressive. It's just like it's impressive what can be done. I wouldn't place that into the category of the greatest music ever written. the classical music that's written is undeniably beautiful, but I don't want to consider that category of music either just because, you know, so if I should limit the scope of this philosophical discussion to the kind of music that I listen to, probably what's my age again by blink quantity too. It's just, you know, it's a solid one. It's got, you know.”
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“Not necessarily favorite place on earth to reside at, you know, indefinitely, but it is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been to. There's something, I don't know, there's something attractive about going to nature.”
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“Okay, so I would definitely there's a question of who I would want to die with. I'd prefer not to die alone. Surrounded by family would be preferable where I think northern New Mexico. And I'm not even joking. Like this is not a random. It's just like.”
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“Of all the places to die, I got to say, in this regard, I don't want to down Mars. No, no, I would much rather die on earth. I mean, death is fundamentally boring, right? Like death is a very boring experience. I mean, I've never died before, so I don't know from firsthand experience.”
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“It's actually more. I mean, sending humans to Mars is way more complicated than sending humans to the moon. You'd think just like naively. Who cares? Like, if you go there, why don't you go there, you know. Life support is an extremely expensive thing”
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“A numerical experiment was a new one. That's like 70% of what I do is I design, you know, I write code, terrible code to be clear. But I write code that creates an experiment which is a simulation. So in that sense, I think we're beginning to interact with the computer in a way that you're saying not as just a you know fancy calculator, not as just a call and request type of thing, but something that can generate insights that are otherwise completely unattainable, right? They're unattainable by doing analytical mathematics.”
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“Oh, yeah, it's an innate construction of the world we live in. I think we are. A part of the way there because pre 1950, right, computers were human beings that would carry out arithmetic. And I think it was Ulam who worked in Los Alamos at the time, like towards the end of the Second World War, wrote something about how in the future, right, computers will not be just arithmetic tool, but will be truly an interactive thing with which you could do experiments. At the time, the notion of doing an experiment, not like in the lab with some beakers, but an experiment on a computer designing an experiment.”
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“Drive some of the science. I agree with you. And I think in this regard. I'm like a sucker for sci-fi. It's all I listen to, like now, and I when I run. And some of it is completely implausible, right? And I was just like, I don't care. It's so, it's both entertaining and it's just like, It's imagination. You know about the Black Clouds book by Fred Hoyle. This is like, this has great connections with sort of a lot of the advancements that are happening in NLP right now. transformer models and so on but it's this black cloud shows up in the solar system and then you know people try to send radio and then it learns to talk back at you you know so anyway we don't Have to talk at all about it, but it's just something worth checking out.”
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“That kind of. So there's a huge magnetism to it, right? And some of it, some of the Jules Verne novels did a phenomenal job predicting the future, right? That actually was a great example of what you were talking about, right? Allowing your imagination to run free. I mean, I just hope there's dragons. That's a highly high.”
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“I actually, my sense is that all of these things are genuinely difficult to predict. And I don't mean like to kind of shy away. I really mean if you think, if you take imagination of what the future looked like from 500 years ago, right, it's just. It is so hard to conceive of the impossible, right? It's almost like limiting to try and imagine things that are an order of magnitude or two orders of magnitude ahead in terms of progress just because you mentioned cars before. If you were to ask people what they wanted in 1870, it's faster buggies, right? So I think the whole kind of alien conversation inevitably gets limited by our entire kind of collective astrophysical lack of imagination.”
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“Probes, like things that But the emergence of AI is not an if, right? It's happening right in front of our eyes, and the energetic costs associated with that are becoming a tangible problem. So I think if you imagine kind of extrapolating that into the future, what are the what becomes the bottleneck, right? The bottleneck might be. You know, powering the AI, broadly speaking, not one AI, but powering that entire AI ecosystem. So I don't know. I think space junk is kind of. It's an interesting idea, but it's heavily influenced by sci fi of 1950s, where by 2020 we're all flying to the moon. And so we produce a lot of space junk. I'm not. Sure, if that's the pathway that alien civilizations take, I've also never seen an alien civilization. That's true, but”
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“Where I don't know, I think something on the order of a few percent of the entire electrical grid last year went to mining Bitcoin. Right, uh, you know”
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“That one will never leave the solar system. It'll just, I think that one will eventually collide with Mars. That can be SpaceX's first Mars destination. But look, so there is an energetic cost to interstellar travel, which is really hard to overcome. And when we think about Generically, what do we look for in an alien civilization? Oftentimes we tend to imagine that the thing you look for is the thing that we're doing right now. Right. So I think that if I look at the future, for a while, like, okay, aliens are out there. They must be broadcasting and radio. That radio, the amount that we broadcast in radio has diminished tremendously in the last 50 years, but we're doing a lot more computation, right? What are the signs of computation? Like that's an interesting question to ask, right?”
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“But it's on that order. But it's on that like a large order of magnitude. How many of the things that we've launched will ever leave the solar system, I think, too? Well, maybe the Voyager 1, Voyager 2, I don't know if the Pioneer. So maybe three. Like,”
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“Yeah, but let's imagine we are. Successful civilization that has made it to space. We clearly have, right? And yes, we're in the infancy of that pursuit, but we've launched, I don't know how many satellites, probably if you count GPS satellites, it must be at least thousands.”
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“So that's an attractive explanation, I think, not so much because it's cool, but it makes a clear prediction. Of when Verubin Observatory comes online next year or so, we will discover many, many more of these objects. Right. And they have, so I like theories that are falsifiable and not just testable, but falsifiable. It's good to have a falsifiable theory where you can say that's not true. Aliens is one that's fundamentally difficult to say no, that's not aliens.”
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“That's just because of the acceleration due to the sun. If you stop, it means like. Something really far away, let it go, and the sun is here. By the time it comes close to the sun, right, it's moving pretty fast.”
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“Well, so these eventually become the nurseries of stars. So as they cool, they contract and Then collapse into stars or into groups of stars. Some of them, the starless molecular clouds, according to the calculations that Daryl and Greg did can create these icles of hydrogen ice.”
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“Yeah, so if you go, like a lot of people imagine the galaxy as being a Know a bunch of stars, right? And they're just orbiting, right? But the truth is, if you fly between stars that you run into clouds.”
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“So this is a friend of mine, Daryl Seligman, Greg Laughlin, came up with this idea that in giant molecular clouds that are just clouds of hydrogen, helium, gas that live throughout the galaxy, at their cores, you can condense ice to become the hydrogen icebergs, if you will. That explains many of the aspects of In fact, I think that explains all of the mystery, how it becomes elongated. Because it's basically the hydrogen I sublimates and kind of like a bar of soap that slowly kind of elongates as you strip away the surface layers, how it was able to accelerate because of a jet that is produced from the hydrogen coming off of it, but you can't see it because it's hydrogen gas. Like all of this stuff kind of falls together nicely.”
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“Or more and more. There's been a lot of discussion about, and there's been a lot of interest in this over, is it aliens or is it not? But let's like, if you just kind of look at the facts. What we know about it is it's kind of like a weird shape and it also accelerated. Yeah. Right. Like that's the two. Those are the two interesting Things about it. There There are puzzles about it, and perhaps the most daring resolution to this puzzle is that it's not aliens or it's not like Iraq. It's actually a piece of hydrogen ice.”
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“Not the Kuiper Belt itself, but you can imagine like Jupiter Family comets being captured, you know. So you can actually capture things. It's even easier to do this very early in the solar system, like early in the solar system's life while it's still in a cluster of stars. It's unavoidable that you capture debris, whether it be natural debris or unnatural debris or just debris of some kind from other stars. It's like a daycare center, right? Like everybody passes their infections on to other kids.”
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“You can't immediately discount that by saying absolutely it cannot anything can be space giant. I mean, from that point of view, can any of the Kuiper belt objects we see? Be space young, anything on the night sky can in principle be space junk.”
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