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“I want to hold open the possibility that I become president of the United States. I think that if you are running for president, the only way you can do so in integrity with yourself and integrity with your supporters and particularly financial supporters is to go for it without equivocation. And I also believe that when you are running for president, people are seeing Not only what your policies are, but what kind of person you are and what kind of president lets something like a DNC debate stop her.”
2019-09-13 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: 2020 presidential candidate Marianne Williamson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When do you decide? Do you know, or do you, what would be the moment where you go no? When you feel like you just want to keep getting these messages out and hope that it catches fire. Or know that it catches fire.”
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“They can't block particular comments that cross a line. Couldn't they do that without shutting down his account, just blocking comments that cross a line?”
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“He's a newsworthy person. They probably wouldn't kick you off necessarily. You're a newsworthy person. He's particularly that he's a newsworthy person and we need to listen to him whatever he says on our platform.”
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“It's okay. I won't get there I would. He broke the rules. He breaks the rules almost persistently. But, you know, where would he go? Nowhere. There's nowhere to go. You can't do the things he's doing on Facebook. You can't do them anywhere else.”
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“The last thing I want is for there to be some headline hearing webs and things that I don't want. It's okay. I won't go there.”
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“That's an interesting question. I believe that I would hold any American to account who violates the rules, shutting down his account.”
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“Well, I think that they can block accounts that they absolutely know are there for nefarious purposes that are paid for and run by foreign entities that do not wish us well who are trying to sow chaos. They have so much more ability to know that, to track that, and to stop that than they are exercising. Would you throw dollar?”
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“You were running Twitter. I would be more particular. I would be far more vigilant about where some of this stuff is coming from, especially now that we absolutely know what the Russians did. And my fear is that they knew a lot more than they've been copying to even before. Totally.”
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“Well, as president of the United States, you know, there's a limit, even though you and I were talking before about anti-monopoly, that's one thing.”
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“So, what would you do? I always tell them you're so poor, all you have is money, which I think works really well with them. It makes them feel like that's all they've got. But what would you do for these companies?”
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“I feel about tech giants is like I feel about any other corporate giants. How much is enough, guys? How many more? How much is enough? At what point does your democracy matter more, the state of your country matter more, the state of the planet matter more? And I don't say that as though none of them are having that conversation because I know and you know enough of them are having that conversation at this point though we need some courage.”
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“Well, nobody had ever seen anything like him before. So they didn't know how to deal with something like this. This phenomenon had not existed before. And what she said in the book was, I should have turned around and said, back off, you creep. I don't think that would have been my strategy. It would have been, excuse me, excuse me, sir, could I have the space between us that's more courteous, please? Here, sorry. Really? I would have said back off.”
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“Government month. But I have to get in four poles to get into the October debate. And going back to what you were saying before, they've already created the impression with the fact that there are going to be 10 on the stage for three hours. When you get in, even if you get in on the fourth, I'm sure I'd be stuck over on the side like I was before. Ask fewer questions like before. So I see the DNC debate as...”
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“I got the $130,000 unique donors, but I didn't make 2% in four DNC designated polls. But they didn't release all the polls either. You got close.”
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“At least there's one of them. And I feel confident that once this nominee is chosen, we're a team. I feel very confident about that, actually. There's a good feeling there. My experience so far. So”
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“Right now it's today. There's a small group of them, but I'm a fan of the vast majority of them as people. I'm a fan of a few of them in terms of I don't want to go there because I don't want to go there.”
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“Not necessarily. First of all, even when you talk about a congressional seat, mine is a national conversation. Right. There are many ways to serve. I'll do whatever lies in front of me that feels like the next best right action wherever I am. Okay. Would you think”
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“Reparations, a moral economy, a complete massive infusion of economic hope and opportunity, more leadership throughout the world. I'm successful if I can, to the best of my ability, get as many people in the United States to know this is your option. What they do with it is the will of the people, and that's how it should be.”
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“But Martin Luther King said, Your life begins to end on the day you stop talking about things that matter. I'm talking about things that I believe matter. I'm talking about traumatized children. I'm talking about waging peace, declaring peace, not just giving in to the military-industrial complex, which dominates our national security agenda in such a dangerous way. I'm talking about a deep conversation regarding race, regarding racial reconciliation in this country. I'm having a conversation that goes deeper. Somebody said to me about the second debate, you are out of your depth. No, I wasn't. I'm the only one having one other campaign that's having this level of depth. So, you know, in terms of the conversation that we're going into, the inquiry that we're having. So there's value here. If the people of the United States want to take it further, that's their business. That's what democracy is. My job is to make sure that to the best of my ability.”
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“I ran for Congress. And when I did not succeed at that, although, you know, Ray Dalio says if you fail, fail well. And I like to think I failed well. And he was talking about being an entrepreneur. He was talking about if you're going to live a meaningful life, this was in his book Principles, you know. He said, if you're going to live a meaningful life, there's more of a risk you're going to fail. But if you fail, fail well. I think the only real failure is what you fail to learn from. But when I finish that experience, I certainly did not expect to be running for office again. I thought I had scratched that itch. That was that. So now here I am. And I feel every day like I'm where I belong. Some days are harder, some hours are harder. It's brutal and it's also exhilarating.”
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“Look what happened to Bernie Sanders last thing. Exactly. Exactly. He sticks at a low mountain. He feels that he was pushed back in a lot of ways. So you feel just by people, there is a time frame. There's a limited time frame. What is your strategy for doing that, from just talking?”
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“Retail politics, and also it's also much more difficult because I don't have the money that the establishment candidates have. So the answer is people going to Mary Ann 2020, sending in money so that I have more opportunity.”
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“Well, when people ask me that in New Hampshire or Iowa or South Carolina or Nevada, my response to them is, it's in your hands. So either, one thing I know, when I have a chance to actually be heard by people People go, Oh, you're not who I thought you were, you're not the caricature that I read. Oh, wow, this changes everything. I have to think about this. As long as I have a chance to get in front of enough people.”
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“How weird is that? And it's a very difficult field to penetrate. If the word longshot is used before your name Every time somebody reads. And now”
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“It's so interesting to me. If you look at the Trump phenomenon People in the Republican Party didn't take their orders from the RNC.”
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“There are a lot of people that can think that. But from a sense of somewhat, I love Einstein's line. Time and space are an illusion, albeit a persistent one, he said. I love that. Yeah.”
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“And a lust. Well, you know, some tech people think we're in a simulation, so some people don't think that bottle that you just picked up is real, that we're in a game, that we're in a simulating game.”
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“Einstein, Albert Einstein said time and space are illusions of consciousness. But he was a scientist. So when someone says within a theological construct that there is a greater world than the three dimensions, it's not like we don't get the gravity. Is true or that you don't go to the doctor. There's almost this suggestion that those of us who believe in a higher power or a more expanded sense of things are less intelligent. We don't understand. We're less sophisticated. The opposite is true. When you have a greater sense of the multidimensionality of life itself, it is a more sophisticated and a less. Well, you know, some people tech people think.”
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“Well, you know what? The whole idea of fake news is not completely inaccurate. So let's take an example, a sentence in my book, which talks about sickness as an illusion. When a metaphysician or a theologian or a scientist for that matter talks about illusion, Buddha said the world was illusion. But Buddhists go to the doctor.”
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“Well, it's lack of journalism ethics and journalism. I'll tell you that much. When you have people who don't bother to check the facts or don't, I mean, just repeat a mischaracterization or take one sentence out of a book.”
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“Of course, that's what, once again, going back to hello, this is 2019. Right. What is this? This is like you could go to the most prestigious. Western medical establishments today. And when you go into the oncologist department, they probably have a meditation class over four o'clock. They have a yoga room. They have a grief counseling. This is an integrative approach to medical healing and to life itself is now what we do. And that's exactly what I meant to before. This view that claims to be the only...”
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“And then, you know, my sister around that same time had breast cancer and then died of it. If anybody had said she shouldn't take her medicine, she got this because she didn't love or pray enough and she did love or pray, I would have throttled them That is not me. It never has been me. Nobody can find a word I've ever spoken or ever written. That's what I mean. This is a political dirty trick. This has nothing to do with who I am or anything. I think one of the things you're”
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“Around AIDS and medication, it is beyond preposterous. First of all, when I first worked with AIDS patients, there was no medicine. That is true. There wasn't any”
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“Yeah, which is not an anti-vacc statement at all, vaccines have saved lives. Hello, look, the smallpox, polio, we all know that. We're living at a time where there's a complicated conversation there. And you were talking before about reductionism and how unable people are to have a nuanced conversation. But I've never said anything anti-back.”
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“I was the most Google person on my debate night, every state except for Montana, which I find so funny because what they didn't know their governor was, I just think that's so funny. And clearly it started three days later. It was clearly well designed, well strategized, clear talking points, anti-Vax, anti-medicine, which is preposterous. I'm Jewish, I go to the doctor, anti-science preposterous, even anti-vax. I never said anything anti-vax. The conversation I spoke into, and I think I made a sloppy comment, but the comment I made had to do with the question of mandatory, which is of exemptions. It's a nuanced conversation that I think intelligent people are having. Then there was what I'm dangerous. I'm crazy, and I'm a grifter. The talking points could not have been more clear. So my own personal feeling is that after the second debate, somebody must have done an internal poll.”
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“You in a career. Is there an outsider, an insider? You get to have a radio show if you want to have a radio show. You know what I mean? You got an audience. You did what you did. Nobody's saying that's the way it works in the private sector. And that's a way to work in politics as well.”
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“Well, duh, why do you think that is? Why do you think that is? Well, of course, we know why it is because there's an insider's club. I call it the political media industrial complex. I mean, it's really shocking when you think about what this means, someone being an outsider. This is America.”
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“But that's kind of my point. Where are the religious voices on the left? And what I have found in my own experience over the last few weeks is how much mockery You can get, you can get a lot of it. You And Andrew Yang.”
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“And except for the black churches where progressive politics and the Church have never separated, there has been too much of a disengagement, a separation between, I believe, between religious voices and political voices. And not that people don't care. You know, I always say Republicans don't walk their talk, but Democrats don't talk their walk. It's not like we don't have values. We're the ones with a more egalitarian policies. But this aversion over the last few decades to languaging that. And I think that that has been to the political detriment. Well, I think that that has been a big trumpet.”
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“Extremely important. But it's also important to remember that the founders by doing that were not seeking to suppress the religious or spiritual conversation. They were seeking to liberate it. They were seeking to protect it. So there's nothing about separation of church and state, which means we shouldn't be talking about morals, ethics, or the truth of the heart. Now, traditionally in this country, the left focused on issues of public morality and the right focused on issues of private morality. But over the last few decades, in a way, that's very different from what I was growing up. Because during the Vietnam War, for instance, the Barracken brothers, Wiems Long Coffin, when I was growing up, there was a vital religious left.”
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“The separation of church and state in this country is a very enlightened and extremely important part of our constitutional freedoms. It is the freedom to believe as you wish, and if you wish. So religious freedom is also very important in this country because it protects the non-believer as well as the variety of believers. So what separation of church and state means is no minister, priest, rabbi, mufti, monk is going to walk into the hall of Congress, rip up a bill, or put another one down, like think the ayatollah, right? That's not going to happen here. It also means you could have a church, a synagogue, a mosque, an AA meeting, a Course in Miracles meeting, or a young atheist meeting, and no policeman's going to come in and say, break it up. Right.”
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“Whereas spirituality is simply a path of the heart. There's no dogma. There's no doctrine we really should try to love each other and not judge each other and give each other a break and forgive you and have some mercy and own it if I've made a mistake and I'm sorry. And yeah, and I forgive you and okay and let's assume the best about each other. It's unfiltered. We don't need an obstruction to that. This is that place.”
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“By the way, Luke is talking. That man, like Mr. Religion, right? This is unbelievable. That happens. The whole love each other part seems to have been left out. The difference between religion and spirituality is religion often entails dogma and doctrine and institutional prescription.”
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“You talked about where America is. That's why I should be the candidate. Is what it means on the best candidate because he is saying crazy stuff like that. Right. Right. All right. So explain that. So that's number one. Number two, the difference between religion and spirituality.”
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“Yeah, but I think mostly it's not about the form. I'm sure your show is different. I'm sure your work is different. I mean, everybody, so it's not about the form of it. It's like, oh, nothing matters as much as this right now. I think I'm not alone or unique. And I think we all ask how my skill set and what I've learned and what I've experienced, when people say you've had no experience, I think my 35 years is exactly what gives me the experience and the qualifications to be not only the one who could defeat him. But the one who has a lot to say about navigating these very turbulent times.”
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“No, it wasn't like that. I do think that I, like millions of other people and certainly everybody I know, have watched with increasing horror. I don't think for any of us. Life is the same. Trump's president changes.”
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“Well, first of all, I think that that's The human tendency is to grow in the Talmud and the Jewish Book of Wisdom it says over every blade of grass there is an angel bent over whispering grow grow grow You know the egg and the sperm are entrepreneurial. I mean anytime life promoted that life seeks to further itself. That's all entrepreneurial is it's just within an economic context but it's the human spirit which wants to do more, grow big, come up with new ideas. That's life. That's how nature operates.”
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“Do you think people understand to take advantage of? A lot of people wouldn't necessarily. I mean, I'm trying to get to the sort of what is the entrepreneurial spirit is that you see it. You see something and you fill it, you see an opportunity or you see a thing in need of disruption.”
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“And so when I started lecturing, you know, I think there was a $3 fee to come in. I was working at someplace called the Philosophical Research Society. And then, unfortunately, the AIDS crisis blew up, particularly in Los Angeles. And so in a very real way. Gay men in LA gave me my career. And then more and more people came, and then I'm lecturing more and more, and all the AIDS stuff was there was no money associated with that. When I started organizations, of course, those were nonprofit, but out of that grew an interest in my writing a book, and then Oprah had me on. And then life unfolded the way it unfolded.”
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