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“No ambition because there wasn't a career in that. The idea of a kind of professional wise woman or even the professional intellectual, which you have much more of in European countries, but we don't have that tradition. And it certainly wasn't anything that I understood at that point. So I was just doing what I loved to do. Which hello, do what you love. For the first two years of my lecturing, I was doing temporary secretarial work in Los Angeles. And my parents used to say, when is this going to be more? But, you know, I was still in my 20s. So by the time this did turn into something I could make a living from, just which just happened. I was in my 31, 32, so I wasn't really, it didn't turn out to be late. I was just doing what you do in your 20s, trying to quote unquote, find yourself.”
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“Well, I was interested in issues of philosophy and higher mind and spirituality and religion and all of that. East, west, exoteric, esoteric. It was always just, since I was a little girl. But there was no professional route that was attractive to me because the only professional routes that at that point exhibited themselves were you could be an academic like I could get a PhD in comparative religion and teach comparative religion. It was like no, it doesn't feel right. Or you could be a clergy. My mother used to say, we'll send you to rabbinical schools. It's like, no, that doesn't mean she did. That didn't feel right either. So when I first started lecturing on a course in miracles, I had no clue.”
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“Talk about that. But even that's only in America. How cool is that? Even that is an example. Talk about that journey because it's really interesting to me. I was reading about that you started, you were doing a bunch of other things and then came upon this book and talk about, I think flashes of inspiration are really interesting to me is when that happened for you.”
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“Beyond small, it wasn't even a career niche. I didn't have any ambition for what I came ultimately to do because that career niche didn't even exist. Talk about that. But even that's only in America. How cool is that? You know, even that is an example.”
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“Well, that's what writing a book is. That's what the kind of lecture careers and seminars and online classes, all of that. You started off.”
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“It's not just about providing jobs, that's ultimately a very paternalistic notion, a well-intended, however well intended, sometimes, sometimes not, paternalistic notion. We should be helping people become all that they can be. That's where wealth comes from, including entrepreneurialism. So whether it's entrepreneurial or it's non-entrepreneurial, still, if you have a job that's non-entrepreneurial, You'll make more money and your company will make more money if you're happy at work. You're a happy employer. You're a happy manager. You're a happy employee. So that's part of the profundity of the pursuit of happiness is that where people are happy, they are more productive. And one of the things that comes from that productivity is money.”
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“But even what you just said Its insidious paternalism. Because you yourself were talking earlier about entrepreneurial So, if you're just looking at how to feed people into so they can get jobs,”
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“Well, even the Right. So how do you Because you do have to link it with jobs. I mean, I think the only way to sell to a lot of people to spend money on it, even though the right thing to do doesn't always happen, but that you link it to the idea that this is where the future is going.”
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“Right. So it's a really interesting thing because I'm not against girls doing math and I'm not against the idea that more kids should have mathematical and you do look at countries like China or India or any others who are pushing their people very hard into that, into those areas. And it's important that our math facilities has declined so dramatically. But at the same time, When you stem that steam, which means you add arts into it.”
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“No, I get it. Yeah, bad policy created all this, and good policy can fix it. So when you, just on the narrow top of the education part, one of the pushes has been by tech people is like, well, they need to do more STEM so then they can have jobs. And I'm like, you're just feeding them into. You know what I mean? That's why there's a conversation.”
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“But the way the system operates is keep things going to keep people happy. And whatever would arouse their conscience, make sure it's on the other side of town or the other side of the world. So one of the things that my campaign is doing and what I believe a leader should do and what I believe a president should do is not only shine the light on, but articulate a solution for problems of people whose pain and suffering is going unnoticed because the conventional political system isn't even talking about it because these children aren't old enough to vote, so they're not a constituency. They're not old enough to work, so they have no financial leverage. This is how deep the moral corruption of our current system goes.”
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“PTSD that is no less severe than the PTSD of a returning veteran from Afghanistan or Iraq. We need community wraparound services. We need far more help in terms of child nutrition and health. We need far more services for families. We need to recognize as a society that in the richest country in the world to withhold education from a child is a passive form of oppression. So these things must be addressed. We have simply normalized the despair of these children. So in aid work, there is the difference. There are two terms, screaming emergency and silent emergency. So the children at the border are screaming emergency. And when you look at how Americans react, Homestead, where I've been and so forth, how horrified Americans are. We see it. We do care.”
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“Asking the teacher if maybe he or she has something to eat. We have millions of American children who go to school in classrooms where there's not even enough school supplies to adequately teach a child to read. And if a child cannot learn to read by eight, the chances of high school graduation are drastically diminished and the chances of incarceration are drastically increased. We have millions of American children who live in what's called America's domestic war zones, who psychologists say are experiencing a level of”
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“Yes. Well, we have a much bigger problem than simply education. Do we need more educational funding? Absolutely. Do we need to pay children teachers more? Absolutely. Do we need to get rid of high stakes testing? Absolutely. But we have millions of American children who are traumatized before preschool. When people talk about universal preschool, we have so much that starts before preschool. It's all about early childhood. We have a relatively high rate of maternal mortality. We have 13 million hungry children in America. We have millions of American children who go to school every day.”
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“It lies in the brain. It doesn't line the sun. It doesn't line the wind. It doesn't line the ground. It lies in the human brain, particularly 10 years old and younger. That's why I want a massive realignment of investment in the direction of America's children. I want it.”
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“Well, sometimes a kid eating clay, look at Einstein when he just stared at the clock. Yeah, and it's true. I think that we are only beginning to grasp what neuroelasticity means, what cognitive retention and elasticity means. We're only beginning to grasp science is only beginning to understand. If you want to look at the fuel that would take this economy into the most blazing abundance in the next 25 and 50 years.”
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“Do you believe that? I believe it all happens in the first 10 years of life. And I believe that if you really want to see the entrepreneurial spirit of the American people go into any kindergarten, In any neighborhood in this country. And you will see how unbelievably generative little children are.”
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“Potential. Do you believe everyone can? You know, I had a discussion with Andrew Yang about this. He was talking about people needing to be more entrepreneurial, but I don't believe everyone can be entrepreneurial. Do you believe that?”
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“No federal income. While all of the economic policies that I mentioned to you before, everything all the way from repealing the tax cut to all the way to the 3% on billionaires, 2% on 50 million and more, all the things that I mentioned to you, you're going to do those things that I mentioned. We're going to have some cash on hand. And we need to make that immediate, immediate infusion. We don't have time to waste here. We need an immediate infusion of economic hope and opportunity in the form of universal health care, in the form of removing that college loan debt. That's the biggest economic stimulus we could have in the form of making state colleges and community colleges tuition-free. I believe that money does not come from job creation on the part of a bunch of corporate aristocrats. I believe money comes from people living their god-given potential, the creativity and the productivity that is infinite and that is unlimited.”
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“No, but I was being a little bit, I was trying to make a point, was that the vast amounts of wealth you have is so beyond like Jeff Bezos, $164 billion. There's no federal income toxic. Not a lot of income taxes. These are paying. And so what would be your proposal for utilizing these very wealthy people to get to income equality? What would be your message to try to? And besides they know it's coming, what is the way to best get to income equality or better income equality?”
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“So, you're on a topic of income inequality, which I think is critically important. I do because I agree with you. I think there's a whole pitch fork concept that I think wealthy people, especially in Sukamali, get. And at one point, I was at a dinner party and I said, do you want to figure out how to solve this or do you want to armor plate your Teslas? Which one do you want? Because that's your choice. And they laughed and I said, no, I'm being kind of your.”
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“Yes, because there is no amount of money That can protect any of us or our children from what will happen in this country if total chaos erupts. And a large part of avoiding that scenario is riding the ship economically. When you have 1% of Americans owning more wealth than the bottom 90%, when you have the level of wealth inequality that we have, when you have the lack of middle class, this is unsustainable. Now, not every person who is rich is so smart, but I would say most of them, a lot of intelligence was included in creating it. You don't have to be super intelligent to get, yeah, this is unsustainable. And I believe that most people would like to write that shit. That goes back to the original question you asked me. We're talking about how can we give political form to our conscience?”
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“They're going to storm those bastilles because they're saying, what's global capitalism ever done for me? Right. What am I supposed to be scared of in socialism, the free health care or the free college? So they're not stupid. And also they're not bad people. They're jerks everywhere and they're noble people everywhere. And I believe it's an American conversation where we realize we have so stray. And that capitalism itself must reclaim some level of ethical core or chaos. So what are you going to say?”
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“Is that when you say, come on, guys, this is not capitalism, this is a virulent strain of capitalism. This has got to stop. What do I get? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. I know. You're right. I know. And when you have people like Jeremy Grantham and you have people like Ray Dalio and you have the business roundtable the other day, I think these guys know, listen, it won't be Bernie, Elizabeth, or Mary Ann that's going to storm those bastilles if they don't course correctly. They're millions and millions of young people coming up.”
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“Listen, somebody's in, okay. Now you know as well as I do. I'm guessing they have to. You know as well as I do. Yeah, you need to go. Just because in San Francisco, just the fact you have a hoodie and jeans on. Oh, I know. No, they're both fancy. They're both fancy. Let's not kid ourselves. No, no. Okay. We got over that illusion a long time ago just because you dress that way. You must be one of us. Okay. So what I got in both places.”
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“Oh, but I did have. Wait a minute. I take that back. I had a meeting in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago with some big tech people.”
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“And I don't think that the average person who has created wealth in this country wants to feel that they're doing that at the expense of other people getting a shot at it.”
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“Short term profit maximization of defense contractors than with legitimate security needs. And I also agree with Elizabeth Warren about the 3% tax on the assets of billionaires and 2% on 50 million or more. And I think it's relevant to note how many billionaires and multi-multi-millionaires agree with that. No socioeconomic group in this country has a monopoly on values.”
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“Creative. It takes the pressure off. Well, it takes a pressure, and that's all it does, of course, but it takes that age off, and that edge is very important. What I want is a massive infusion of economic hopened opportunity into the life of the average American. And what to repeal the 2017 tax cut, 83 cents of every dollar went to the top earners and corporations, put back in the middle class tax cut. And let's be very clear, there is no evidence that that tax cut's ever even going to pay for itself much less actually stimulate the economy. We need to stop those corporate subsidies like $26 billion last year alone to the oil and gas. The U.S. government needs to be able to negotiate with Big Pharma to lower drug prices. We need to look at our military spending. Every dollar that the military says they need for legitimate security, they should get. But we have what some people would argue is up to $300 billion above that. That has to do more.”
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“You read that book, and one of the things that I got from reading that book that I had not deeply considered before is how many white-collar professions that think, oh, I'm safe from automation. No, you're not, guys. No, you're not. And I think, Andrew is absolutely correct. We have to plan for that tsunami that's coming at us now.”
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“Why is that? I think we have a tsunami coming at us. In the form of automation, you have states where trucking is the single largest industry. So what's a trucker supposed to do? So you're going to have these driverless trucks. What are they supposed to do? I mean, this bogus silliness we talk about job retraining. The statistics argue that you can retrain someone, but what good is that going to do if there is no job on the other end of their retraining? You know, you go to a write a And you notice there aren't that many people at the counter anymore. Right. Right. Well, where is that person going? Can they go to CVS? No, because CVS is also automating. And one of the things you get from reading Andrew's book, which I assume you did”
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“Well, I think the last 40 years it's become something. Although, interestingly enough, in fact, I think not everybody realizes Milton Friedman himself argued that in order for any of this to be safe, we should have a universal basic income.”
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“Because I believe that as long as we have a system as we have now, and we've been veying there for the last 40 years, where companies, any corporation, is given not just governmental sanction, but even social sanction for believing that its stockholder value should be given precedence over any other ethical. Moral or democratic concern for people, democracy, or planet, then we have a problem.”
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“Absolutely. Against which companies. I don't know specifically which companies, but whenever I read articles about any of them, I think, yeah, the direction we're moving in is good.”
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“Well, first of all, we used to actually have a sense of what monopolies meant and why anti-monopoly laws were important. Just on the level of monopoly, just on the level of monopoly. You know, I see that Tulsi Gabbard has brought, I think, a $50 million lawsuit, I think, against Google, that after she was Googled after one of the debates and they shut down her account. No, they should not, nobody should have that power. There is too much power. But once again, I don't think that. So I think that straight just looking at it from the perspective of no company, I mean, how many Mark Zuckerbergs might there be out there? How many Jeff Bezos might there be out there who are not getting a chance to, you know, if you have a tree that's too big, then everything growing underneath it doesn't get to grow to its size. That's actually anti-competition. That's actually anti-free market.”
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“How The what is saying otherwise We also, though, are a society that's become unfortunately and necessarily so pretty sophisticated about addiction. And sometimes you just have to say no. More and more people, I mean, they're even having like vacations. They used to advertise. Come on this vacation. We have Wi-Fi now. Come on this vacation, no Wi-Fi. I mean, people, really intelligent people recognizing, I mean, I remember one night I found myself waking up in the middle of the night.”
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“My How could you then stop it, Mary? Because these are architected this way. This is how it is architected. And so it's like saying we should be this way. But the building is saying otherwise. And you kind of have to live in. The what is saying otherwise? The building that they build. I used the term architecture because I think it's architected for virality. I think it's architected for engagement and it's architected for speed. And all those things create chaos in a lot of ways.”
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“Whatever it is that brings your nervous system into some harmony with the level of depth out of which wisdom arises. The first thought you have is not necessarily your wisest thoughts. We're also reactive. And that's where the reductive quality that you were talking about comes from. And then unfortunately, the media, which should be helping us, which should be facilitating a more intelligent view, too often they're going after the clickbait because that's where they see their success lying. And each individual has to take responsibility for this.”
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“Well, yeah, but this is not going to fix that. So, yes, I believe that they should be broken up. Yes, I believe that they're monopolistic. Yes, I believe they have too much power. But that of itself is not going to fix the other issue that you mentioned, that they're addictive, that they've become such an ubiquitous part of our lives. When I was a little girl, my father used to drive around in a car, and he had put on the back and lipstick, read a book, help stamp out TV. My father used to always talk about how important it was to read. And, you know, Blaise Pascal said every problem in the world emanates from a man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone. People are not thinking deeply today. Nobody has any impulse control. So my mother would say count to 10 before you say it. Too many of us, myself included. It's too easy to send that text, too easy to send that tweet. We need, this is why meditation is important, why reflection is important, why yoga is important, why prayer is important.”
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“So, in doing that, these media, new media forms do create that, though. I know you're saying we should be responsible ourselves, but a lot of it is addictive. A lot of it is hard to resist. It is everywhere. It is all around us.”
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“On our hands, and we all have to be in it for the long haul, and it's a marathon, it's not a sprint. And that's what I mean by if it's just your anger, you'll burn out from that. And I think that's also something that age gives me a sense of these we're not going to win every battle. We're not going to win every little thing. Settle in, settle in because this is going to be a long. So the nourishment of rather genuine nourishment, more like healthy food, has a sense of history, a sense of narrative, and a sense of the commitment necessary over time. An emotional capacity to withstand the disappointments that are inevitable, knowing that we're going for the long-term success. It takes a deeper emotional and psychological foundation to actually wage a revolution.”
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“Yeah, there are many things which a righteous person is filled with rage about, but there is a moral outrage. My point about anger as a mode of activism or inspiration for activism, it's white sugar in that. It gives you an immediate high. You have an immediate adrenaline rush, but it doesn't nourse you over time. When you're talking about the Trump forces. You're talking about something bigger than just defeating Donald Trump in 2020. Because if all we do is defeat him, they'll be back in 2022. They'll be back in 24. This is going to take time. It's not just defeating Trump electorally. We've got a big historic hall.”
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“Yes, but I also believe that there is righteous outrage, righteous moral outrage, and I think there's a lot of righteous moral outrage, for instance, about kidnapping children, separating children from their parents, child detention centers, shutting down asylum, rolling back methane regulations, gutting the Clean Water Act, getting the Clean Air Act, getting out of the Iran nuclear deal. I mean, there are many things which changing the weather.”
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“Well, each and every one of us has to take responsibility for this. It's a time for integrative healing of our society as well as our health, where you have to address this on every level. Some is level of policy and some is the level of our own personal consciousness. And I see on the left as well as on the right. This willingness to shut people down. This is democracy. If somebody doesn't agree with you, that doesn't mean they should shut up I'm sorry.”
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“Right, right, yeah, yeah. You know Right. And so they want to comment. Of course, and shut you down. What do you think Imagines needs to be done about this? Because my viewpoints are pretty clear. It's amplified, weaponized discourse, it's amplified civility, it's incivility, essentially. And it's created a situation where you can only, which is why someone like Donald Trump thrives on a platform like this. It's very reductive. It's really fast. Sometimes it can be very funny and pithy and interesting. But for the most part, it really does favor fear and anger. The statistics, 17, you get much more clicks if you're meaner. It's architected that way.”
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“Yeah. But, you know, look, I'm running for president now. I mean, I don't know what it would be any different. But before, I was followed by people who probably liked me. Right, right, yeah, yeah. You know, and now I'm followed by a lot of people who are there because they don't like me. Right. And so they want to comment, of course, and shut you down.”
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“Well, I have to use all three, but I have found recently with Twitter, don't even try because that I'm really changing my view of Twitter. It's unfortunate because I used to have a different experience of it.”
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“She's over at Twitter. Yeah. And on Facebook, do you have a chance at some conversation? And Instagram, it's like everybody wants to be happy and nice.”
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“Yeah, but I see the really mean stuff heaped. I can only speak from my experience. You would have much more vass. Facebook. What I find in my own experience of Facebook I have a shot at you're wrong, Marianne, and I'll tell you why.”
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“Well, unfortunately, the level of our political discourse obviously has greatly declined. And also, unfortunately, I do believe, and I think you do as well, that unfortunately social media has had a lot to do with this. Although one of the things I find interesting is how different the personality of Facebook is than the personality of Twitter than the personality of Instagram.”
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