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“But it's like the Steve Jobs thing where you can connect the dots going back. I look back and it's, yeah, all those kind of bullshit SEO sites. Needed those to kind of build up the skill set to actually build a functioning company and a blog that got an audience. And then from there, you learn the skills, had to expand the audience. And like you said, it's the tacky ball.”
2022-12-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #647: Mark Manson — The Path to 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck,' The Ups (and Downs) of Success, The Craft of Writing, Personal Reinvention, How to Build a Lean Team, Protecting Boundaries, Decompressing with Fiction, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it was, the old design was like eight years old and it was funny because as soon as the first drafts of this new one came in, me and my developer went and looked at the old site and we were just horribly embarrassed. We were like, how have we allowed this to be online for so long?”
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“I do want to say thank you to you seriously. You've been a pioneer for my generation, been a big fan for a long time. My adolescent anger towards you aside while I was sleeping on couches, for those of us who are the generation under you, you've been showing us how to do it for a long time now. So I appreciate that.”
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“Unbelievable. Yeah, I read both of his. Collections, I think I want to say three or four years ago. Yeah, just floored me. I was like speechless afterwards. Yeah.”
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“Yeah, and maybe it's also because just, you know, creatively that's very open and creative right now. And I kind of want to just be able to let any idea in and play with it. So maybe that's why it feels right”
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“World War II, incredible story. We're eating a lot of World War II stuff. All the light you cannot see was fantastic. I'm kind of on a light fiction kick, just like letting my brain”
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“So I'm actually trying to get back to... kind of lighter fiction. Stephen King is one of those authors that obviously I've always heard of him, always know about him. I read a couple of his books in high school, loved them, and then never really went back to them. And so now that I'm kind of on this decompression reading kick, I've taken upon myself to go to actually go back and read some of the Stephen King classics. I read this is not fiction, but it was a biography. I read unbroken by Lauren Hillibrand about the...”
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“both in terms of research and also just my own curiosity. I read hundreds and hundreds of books, nonfiction books over that period. And I think coming out of it, you know, as soon as I didn't feel like I had to read those for a project anymore, my brain was like, all right, give me fantasy. Give me no more homework.”
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“Yeah, it's fantastic. So, you know, stuff that you or Ryan or James Clear, people kind of in this new personal development space, I'm always tracking. In terms of just like what I've been reading recently, I've actually been reading a lot of fiction the last year. I am not. Going to start writing fiction unlike you anytime soon, maybe one day it's actually kind of like a bucket list thing to do a novel one day. But it's funny, again, coming out of this intense period of work, it's almost like my brain just Seemed kind of repulsed by a lot of nonfiction.”
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“And he sent me a draft of that for a blurb and it was my email back to him was like You fucker, man. Like this is every once in a while you read a book and you're just kind of, you're a little bit angry because you're like, I wish I wrote this because it's that good and it's that smart. And I was like, yeah, this is that for me. I'm happy for you. I'm so happy for you. But there's a little piece of me that's like.”
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“Yeah, it's such an, in my opinion, it's kind of the best book about happiness research and all the paradoxes and contradictions that come with it. And then another category, I guess you would call it like contemporaries. So I also love Berkman's book. I'm actually friends with Oliver. He and I used to be meditation buddies in New York. No kidding.”
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“Is what made me want to be a writer, particularly his piece, a supposedly fun thing I'll never do again is just I go back and read it every couple years and I'm just in awe of how clever and observant he is. Hondris Thompson, Joan Diddian, I kind of think, you know, there's almost like different categories in my brain. There's nonfiction writers I appreciate for the quality of their writing, which they are in. There is nonfiction. I would call it academic nonfiction, which I mostly read just to make sure I understand the prevalent research in the space, which would be Jonathan Haight. I'm a huge fan of Dan Gilbert. He's got a great book called Stumbling On Happiness.”
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“Yeah, it's hard because it's, I mean, there's so many books to talk. There are a lot of books. But yeah, I mean, you definitely hit what I would consider my biggest influence is, you know, David Foster Wallace's nonfiction.”
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“Yes, with the asterisk that I read it as a teenager. It is a fun way to get kind of, I would say like a Wikipedia understanding of each major thinker and their contributions and how they influence Western civilization.”
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“I use Scrivener for the first draft of my first two books, or for subtle art and for everything is fucked. I find it great for if you still haven't quite nailed down the organization of a book. Scrivener is great for moving around large chunks of text. Very easily, but it's actual user interface, I think, is inferior to Word. So if you're actually trying to go line by line and just make everything really polished and clear, I think Word. So usually I would do first draft on Scrivener and then port it over to Word and do all my revisions on Word.”
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“I also just think it's an advantage to be older and know who you are. Well, it's like the Spielberg thing, right? It's like, well, you know, dude, I got enough skittles. Thanks, but I don't need your views. Thank you.”
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“I feel like I have a couple competitive advantages entering that space in a serious way. I feel like I have a couple of competitive advantages for the simple fact that I'm old because most big YouTubers are like their 20 something year old dudes who have never had a real job, never been married, don't have kids. I feel like... As somebody who has been doing this for a long time, who has fallen into a lot of those traps of Feeling like you have to please the audience all the time or feeling like you have to publish all the time or being terrified that you're going to lose people or they're going to leave you or whatever. I've gone through that in my own way and I feel like I've got my head on straight about it at this point. And then”
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“Gen Z is not on Twitter, they're not reading blogs, they're not signing up for newsletters, they're on YouTube, they're on TikTok. So that excites me as well.”
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“Yeah, just follow me incentives. But yeah, it works. It's just, it's not scalable on like a mass, you know, you can't have like an army of therapists who offer you $1,000 to lose weight. You can have an asshole on YouTube who does. And I'll be that asshole. And that's kind of like the working concept at the moment. I think it'll be fun, but it also just... It renews the subjects for me. Beating these dead horses for 15 years at this point. And, you know, this brings the horse back to life. And I think it also just introduces a lot of these concepts and ideas to a new generation.”
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“Yeah. So, you know, when I was watching Mr. B's, the thing that occurred to me was, okay, well, that's fun. You know, you put people in a circle and see how long they can stay and then give them $100,000, whatever amount he gives them. Like, what if you actually like took somebody who's struggled to lose weight over the last five years and you're like, hey, I'll give you $50,000 if you lose 20 pounds in the next six months or whatever. And then you track them and follow them and see what's their process, where do they get hung up? What are the self-defeating beliefs and doubts and stuff like that? And I think this is what I like about it too is that if you look at, you know, research on motivation and people actually sticking to behaviors and goals and things like that, money is one of the most effective inputs.”
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“Keep in mind this is still super early days for me, but I've got a lot of brainstorms around this right now. So one idea that I've talked to the team about is Can kind of reinvent classic psych studies. So there's the famous marshmallow study. You could probably do a really fun and entertaining version of that with just random people off the street and give them 100 bucks if they win or whatever. I think there's a lot of opportunity to. You can use things as incentive. You can kind of gamify it a little bit. So I don't know if you've watched, there's a new trend going on on YouTube of kind of gamifying everything. It's Mr. Beast got huge and everybody's.”
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“Less interested in writing about theory and this is how your mind works and this is why you get anxious and this is this is what resilience is. I'm becoming far more interested in implementation. How do you actually get somebody who's read this stuff to go do something with their life? And if you're limited to the written form, you can't really do anything about that. But if you've got a camera with you, fuck it. Go visit the guy. see if he's getting off his couch film it Ask him how he's feeling. I think there's just a lot of opportunity to explore things in that format that haven't been tapped into. And so that's what really excites me at the moment, the new creative opportunities in that sense.”
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“Yeah, right, exactly. Everything's a footnote to Plato. So there's only so many ways you can write about how to get over anxiety before you just start repeating yourself. There's only so many ways you can write about getting over a breakup before you just start repeating yourself. Definitely the last few years, I felt like I've hit that. And it's been frustrating. You feel like you're trying to reinvent the wheel all the time. And I feel like video... A new medium opens up opportunities to approach. Age old topics from a new direction or new dimension. And that's kind of my plan for that.”
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“So, I don't know if you run into this much, but it's one of the frustrations When it comes to personal development topics, there's nothing new under the sun. All of these concepts and ideas, you know, save for some recent psychological research or, you know, a couple times a year, a really great new study will come out in psychology. And three years later, it's not replicated. So most of what we're working with is ideas and concepts that have been around for decades, if not centuries.”
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“And so I realized that that was just something, it definitely wasn't grabbing me. On the video side of things, I initially did it for the reason you just said. I was like, well, Having a YouTube channel just seems like a thing you're supposed to have. And so I started recording some short videos about two years ago and sent it off to a freelance editor and kind of never thought about it after that. But as time went on, I started to enjoy it more and more. And I think the thing with video is that there is a very long learning curve to it. You have to understand it's not just about being good on camera. Like you need to understand lighting. You need to understand audio. You need to understand editing, file types, resolutions, aspect ratios, like all this stuff. And usually the way you learn is by fucking it up.”
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“You don't realize how much goes into being a good interviewer, how much thought you have to put into the questions you ask.”
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“That immediately gave me a respect for what you do and other podcasters do. Because on the outside, it looks like, oh, yeah, you just sit down and talk to somebody. Like, how hard is that?”
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“Actually, I think you have an old article from years and years ago about the starter kit of equipment, bought all that stuff. I just wanted to do like a dry run just to see do I enjoy this? Is it fun for me? And actually my first guinea pig was our mutual friend, Ryan Holliday. So I went over to his house down there in Austin. Brought all the mics and everything, sat down, talked to him for an hour and a half, two hours, went home, opened up the audio, started listening to it. And I realized that it was probably the least interesting conversation Ryan and I had ever had in our like five-year friendship.”
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“Not gonna lie, there's definitely some of the ladder in it of just like, I love this business. I love what I do. And blogs are dead. You and I both know blogs are dead. Like you get no reach for any sort of written content whatsoever. Newsletters are getting super saturated. Like it's just, it's hard to. Stay in front of eyeballs in our industry That said, I had a little bit of a, I wrestled with this past year because it's been like four years now. My team has been telling me you either need to do videos or have a podcast. Dude, you either need to have videos or have a podcast. I'm like, motherfuckers, I'm writing three books right now. Talk to me in two years. But they were right. And I knew they were right. Like it's just the way the world is going. So I actually dabbled a little bit with a podcast. It was funny.”
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“I was just this like no-name internet guy. And so they're like, oh, yeah, well, if that makes them happy, like, let's just put it on the cover. But then once you become Mark Manson or Tim Ferris or Ryan Holliday suddenly”
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“They were very adamant on the orange. So initially it didn't have that splat. The splat was me. And this, again, this is credit to them. I didn't realize this was not normal. So they sent the initial draft of the cover. I took it, put it like opened up Photoshop myself. I think I changed the font to be the same font as my website. And then I added the splat because I wanted something kind of iconic to like, I don't know, seem fitting. And I sent it back to them. We love it. It's great. We'll do it. And I was like, wow, great. I love these guys. And, you know, sure enough, you find out that that never happens. People never, you know, the publisher never listens to your feedback. They try to force things through. But it's actually ironic because I think at the time.”
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“All the time It's actually kind of obnoxious if you get any amount of authors in a room together Inevitably, the conversation just always ends up bitching about publishers. So the funny thing about the cover, though.”
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“It's funny because when I went into that book, that was, you know, that was my first book with a publisher. All my friends who were published authors had all these warnings of like how horrible publishers are and how terrible decisions they make and all this stuff. And everything with subtle art was just a breeze. Everything went really well. Everybody got along. There were no problems. And I was like, wow, what's everybody talking about?”
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“It's funny too because early in my career, kind of prided myself on my ability to say no to things that I didn't want to do. Like that was kind of a badge of honor I had. What I didn't realize is that as you scale the mountain, the things you have to say no to are proportionally difficult to say no to as how high you get. So it's like a skill you have.”
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“The challenge there would be holding the line with that. If he started to push back and it's like, well, we'll offer you twice as much money as your Harper contract. It's like you can't get seduced. You need to hold. It's like boundaries and relationships, right? It's like if you tell somebody like, hey, this doesn't work for me, don't do it. And then they do it. It's really hard to not let it slide. Like nobody wants to confront people in their lives and say like, hey, that's upsetting to me. I told you not to do it. You know, it's really hurtful that you did that. Like nobody wants to have that conversation. But if you want to have good relationships, you have to have that conversation. And I think it's the same in the professional world. If you don't set those boundaries of like, okay, this is what works for me. And if you don't hold those boundaries, you just kind of end up in this no-man's land.”
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“If that offer came down the pipeline like tomorrow, my reaction would be, so I'm building out a video team. We're going to start scaling video content in 2023. I'm under another contract with Harper to do another book in 2024. So we can get started like 2025 if you want. That would probably be the conversation, which I'm sure he would hate.”
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“You do hit a certain number where you're like, fuck it. I'm just going to do stuff I want to do. Very fortunate to be there.”
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“Yes, he is. Is he doing it for the right reasons? I'd probably have to sit down and talk to him, get a feel for that. Is it a good fit chemistry-wise? You know, I'd have to sit down, figure that out. And then I think it would be on my terms. I'd be like, okay, here's my schedule for the next two years. Here's where I can fit this in. This is when I'm available. You know, take it or leave it. I think the money at this point. would be a very, very minor factor”
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“Not doing anything else to be here. So rules around that. So to the Spielberg opportunity, my rule with any sort of like celebrity memoir would probably be very similar to my rule with Will. A lister has to be doing it for the right reasons. I think the difference this time would be part of the reason I Gave myself chest pains a few years ago was I think I was so eager to say yes to things. So to back up a little bit, you know, after subtle art, there was a little bit of this insecurity, maybe call it imposter syndrome of like, okay, this might be my 15 minutes. Say yes to everything because. Who knows if this is going to come? Come back around So I did that. I don't necessarily regret it, but I think this time around, it would be on my terms. So it would be like, okay.”
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“Exactly, exactly. Speaking has been a big one that I've cut out and it's actually that that's been a the delta between house speaking opportunities look on paper versus reality is like it's just so wide because you get that email and there's this number with a bunch of zeros behind it and you're like oh my god that's the easiest money ever and then you actually go do it and you're like wow i just spent a week”
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“It's basically just an Uber away. And also, I decided too that I'm not going to do keynotes anymore. You know, if you want me to sit on stage and answer questions, that's fine. But like.”
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“So my rules are basically it either needs to be like an Uber away or it needs to be just an absolutely like stupid amount of money, which nobody takes the stupid amount of money”
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“Is the right word, but just a widespread dissemination of these very important concepts and ideas to the masses for either free or very, very, very cheap. I really deeply believe that a lot of these concepts, these basic things that you and I talk about week in, week out, They should be everywhere. They should be taught in school. They should be basic relationship skills should be taught in school, basic meditation. A lot of the exercises you do in therapy, CBT, like these concepts should be taught everywhere. Like everybody should have access to them all the time. And I'm very passionate about that idea that has always been kind of a chip on my shoulder that I've had throughout my career. And it's still there. There's still work to do. And so the marriage of those two things is kind of where my head is at right now.”
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“Exactly. I've already made the initial hires. If there are more people that I'm hiring subscribe to my newsletter, it'll be announced there. I'm very bullish on online media and independent media in general. And you could argue it's already the predominant form of media in terms of just where the narratives come from and where the best content comes from. But I think that's only going to continue over the next decade. And so I'm excited to be here for that. There's two things that I love. One is what I just said, the kind of the immediacy of online content. The other one is just I have this very, very strong passion bordering on fury of a thousand suns to take the self-help world, which traditionally, you know, when I was growing up, when you were growing up, self-help was not something for the masses. It was like if you had a bunch of money in your savings and could fly to a city and sit in a conference room for five days, like that's where this content used to be. And I think over the past 20 years, we're living through kind of, I don't know if democracy.”
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“Processing that feedback, understanding, oh, people like that. Why did people like that? What is it about that idea that resonates with people? And then trying to figure out like, okay, well, how could I do something more with that? I love that process so much and the immediacy and the creative control that comes with that. I'm envisioning this place in my career as like I'm coming back to that. I mentioned earlier that I'm currently hiring out a video team. And before like 500 people listening to this start sending me applications.”
2022-12-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #647: Mark Manson — The Path to 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck,' The Ups (and Downs) of Success, The Craft of Writing, Personal Reinvention, How to Build a Lean Team, Protecting Boundaries, Decompressing with Fiction, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The place I'm in now, I mean, I will write more books, but I'm kind of in this. like prodigal son coming back to the internet moment Doing all of these projects over the last five years in legacy media, it's been very rewarding and it's been in many cases very fun and educational. But what I realized is that that's not what I love doing. I love just the raw dynamism of.”
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“Of just operationally, like he's very good at including everybody, he's very, there's no rigid hierarchy of like, oh, well, you're the assistant of this manager. So like you shouldn't be in the room talking about these ideas. It's kind of like he loves to just joke and bounce creative ideas around. And if it's like the lowly production assistant who comes back with a great idea, like he's happy with that. He'll run with it. He doesn't feel like a possessiveness around who gets to tell him what.”
2022-12-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #647: Mark Manson — The Path to 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck,' The Ups (and Downs) of Success, The Craft of Writing, Personal Reinvention, How to Build a Lean Team, Protecting Boundaries, Decompressing with Fiction, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everybody in significant roles in his team have been with him since at least the fresh prints days, many of them since the 80s, some of them since he was a kid. They're like childhood friends that he kind of put into the appropriate place. So that really blew me away. It also validated a lot of my beliefs around loyalty and trust. He also explained it to me once as he said he was like, look, When you become famous Nothing is scarce. If you want money, you can go get money. If you want parties, you can go get parties. If you want sex, you can go get sex. He said, the one thing that becomes more scarce as you become famous is trust. And so he said, I very much tried to build my organization to optimize for trust first and everything else second, which I thought was very wise of him. But in terms of...”
2022-12-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #647: Mark Manson — The Path to 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck,' The Ups (and Downs) of Success, The Craft of Writing, Personal Reinvention, How to Build a Lean Team, Protecting Boundaries, Decompressing with Fiction, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This kind of validates what we were talking about earlier. The first thing. Really stood out to me about his team was. They've all been with him forever. And it was funny, I was talking to one, he's got one guy named Scotty, who I love. Scotty's been in a few of his YouTube videos. Lovely, lovely guy. And Scotty was kind of joking with me. He's like, yeah, I'm the new guy on the team. I've only been here nine years.”
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“And he described it as robbing him as an opportunity to be excellent. It's funny because you hear so many outsourcing conversations in terms of business of like how to hire and outsource and do all this and automate and do all this stuff. He spoke about it in ethical terms, which Was really profound for me”
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