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Martha Beck

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“And that is like, I think maybe that's what we're supposed to, we're all humans are supposed to do that. I don't know. Byron Katie does it.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you stay in the liminal phase and tell the truth all the time, instead of being tricksy, if you learn the magic and tell the truth, you have to use it in ways that are for good and not evil.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The threshold is the place of magic because it's not one place or another. And when you're on it, you're not anyone, anywhere. You're a liminal phase is the place where you're completely informed, but that's why it's a place you can do magic. So maybe you should just stay in the liminal phase”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We should all hang out and make some more stories because I will tell you one thing if you go wherever you feel you're supposed to go to maximize your joy, your adventures just increase.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This might sound so yarfy, but I just, I'm really grateful for you and for the life you've lived and for your differences and how you've pushed them. And then you've given them that the world just so generously and completely. And you've given me so much time today. And I feel an enormous joy. And okay, I love your presence, your energy, your being. I am awash in wonder the way I am when I'm in nature and I made a really interesting preacher.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know how Londa Lozi is, nature is like that everywhere, and that's why it's worth it to tell the truth and let people hate you because nature loves you when you tell the truth and it tells you to go places and have adventures. I just went to Costa Rica. We didn't see any monkeys for six days. So I went and I energetically called monkeys. I know it's stupid. We got mobbed by monkeys. They were everywhere until my son got scared of them and I had to ask them to leave with my mind.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and then this place, there were wild turkeys and deer and everything in the place we came here. First thing that happened when I saw this house was a whole flock of wild turkeys walked out of the forest and I've never seen them since. It was just like I was being welcomed.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because the real beauty, it's like I said to myself in that month of my right hemisphere stuff, it's not about the picture I'm painting. It's not about the painting. It's about painting. It's about the process of being in continuous creative response to whatever is present, that state of mind. And it said by a ranch, so I bought, I literally on my 50th birthday spent every penny I had on a ranch. And six years later, I sold it. And you notice something great? We had a wonderful massage thereapist who used to come out and work on people there. And, you know, she'd have her massage table in her car, but I'm sure she was living kind of paycheck to paycheck or hand to mouth when we decided to leave. She inherited a whole bunch of money and bought the ranch.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was this was exactly the place I was supposed to be. And now, well, Liz said it in Eat Pray Love. Now it is time for something that is beautiful to change into something else that is beautiful. And I knew that if I stayed there, the beauty of it would decay.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Unfortunately, and yet it's such a clean pain, right? Death in nature is not the horror we make it. Death in nature is this deep gratitude for physical experience and then this profound release of the physical form of what you loved. And it teaches you how to die. And when you really know how to die, then you can live without any fear. I felt the ranch dying for me and something else coming to life. And I grieved.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, it was much more gentle than that. It was like a death. It was like an animal dying. Have you ever had to put down a dog?”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because I felt like it was time, like I'm following this energy through the world and I had written a novel about a woman who goes into the forest of California and has all these experiences. And then I was going to write a sequel that happens in the eastern forest, the little piece of the eastern ancient forests that still survive. It was going to be about a plague that affected New York City. So I moved to a little patch at the ancient eastern forest in Pennsylvania. And then there was a plague that affected New York City. And I'm running the sequel now, but I go through life Tracking and saying, I have a ranch now, I'm a rancher. No, I don't know. I could sell this house and move tomorrow if I felt like I should. And I would.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But be honest. So she went into the pen, and she just stood there and Walks up and touched her with his shoulder and then wrapped his head back around so that his nose was touching his flank and just held her. And it was a genuine hug. This is not me anthropomorphizing. When you realize that nature is available to you as a companion, if you just tell the truth, it really is worth giving everything else up.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's amazing. That's why I bought a ranch in California. I'm like, I'm buying a ranch. And what happens is you start to realize that these horses are just more sensitive to stuff that people are seeing in you all the time. And we'd put people in with horses and the horses would force them to tell the truth. And then the other people, the boss would say, am I really that scary? And everybody would go, all five horses are afraid of you. And we are too. It's a very, very quick way to learn to tell the truth. There was this one woman who kept trying to do it. She was having no success at all. The horse just kept bumping up against her. And she hated it. She said she was getting nothing out of the seminar. I was panicking inside. And finally, she said, after three days of this, she said, all right, I've been working on all these stupid little things, but the real thing is I'm getting a divorce and I haven't told anybody. And she started to cry. And it was obvious that was her real issue. So we said, just go in with the horse and do whatever.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I finally got this little palomino to join up with me. And I walked past her, and she came with me. And then you walk for a while together just to establish the connection. And she was walking with me, but I heard something weird behind me. And so after we'd walked a while, I looked back and I just looked down and not over my shoulder, sort of under my shoulder because you don't want your eyes to be up and staring. And she was the herd matriarch. And when she joined up with me, the whole herd did. And they were all walking with me. Holy shit.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I had a few experiences with that where I was taught to act like a herd leader in this one time, some horse whispers took me to a herd and they said, we want you to join up with this one little palomino mayor. And they were like 20 horses in this pasture. And this one was the most skittish, the hardest to get close to. It worked. I had to get my energy so soft and do everything just right. But eventually I got to the place. There's something called, we used to call a join-up where you walk past the horse and you sort of brush past it with your shoulder and walk away and it follows you and you are now its leader. I'd done this with individual horses.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And start moving more like a prey animal. So gentle energy, eyes down, eyes soft, these sort of wishy-washy sounding things, but when you're in there in the pen with the horse and your eyes aren't soft, the horse is afraid. And then you learn how to soften your eyes and the horse goes, oh and like physically drops its tension. And if you get to a place where you are in really calm, really connected state of being so calm but also open, the horse will make you the leader of the herd.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Something. Yeah, I got that ranch because I got the chance to work with some equine therapists and I made a sort of amalgamation of the way I coach people with what they were doing. And we ran seminars and put work teams through it and everything. And the reason it's so amazing is that I talk about people exuding an energy or cheetahs exuding an energy. Horses are responding to that energy and they respond in a way that is undeniable. So we'd have a team of people and their boss would go into the pen. They were all too frightened to tell the boss that he was terrifying. The horse would just start to gallop and gallop and gallop and rear and the guy would be, I'm being nice to him. And you could correct for the posture and you could correct for there's a way to speak hoarse and you speak it with your physical body. And you basically have to learn to stop acting like a predator, which we are.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It actually was in a national park. I mean, the nearest grocery store was an hour's drive and. There was no road going past it. There was us and a national park.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Actually, very, very, it really goes what you said about every superpower has its cost, though. And I think you would identify with cheetahs.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Throwing donuts out of the car not in the rot your teeth way, but just in the like how dogs love you. She does love you twice that much. Love each other twice that much, and it started licking my arm, and it was taking off a layer of skin with every lick because they have these really raspy tongues. I literally had a scar for months and I don't care. It could have eaten my scarf.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is not cheater. Tim, you've got to meet cheetahs. They have like dog energy if you put a ton of sugar in it. They are the sweetest animals.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I love big cats anyway, but I had it. Cheetahs are delicate and scared and skittish because they're built for speed. They have those long legs and stuff and if a lion or a leopard or a hyena gets to them, they're toast. So I had a chance to meet an orphan, an adult cheetah. And you know how animals have energy, like dogs have this energy that is just dog, like genius and horses have this energy, which is like, I'm about this far away from wild and I'm scared of everything. And lions have this energy like serial killers because they are, you know, but cheetahs, I came upon a cheetah that was throttling and impala and it held on until the animal had suffocated. And then it looked up at me and it said,”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With acceptance and compassion, and simple kindness. Toward the self toward the parts of the self that are doing the things you can't stand. And that was a really dramatic shift for me in my insomnia, for one thing. But in all the negatives, when I started saying, stay.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Negative thing that won't seem to leave. I just use a little let go let go mantra, and it wasn't letting go. And I thought, okay, how would Byron Katie do this? And I said, let's stay. So I said to my anxiety at the time, stay. Don't go anywhere. Please come and sit down. Stay here. I want you exactly the way you are. I accept you exactly the way you are. I want you with me. I care about you. I care about your welfare. I want to know all about you. I want to know everything about you. Come sit by the fire with me. And in a way, it kind of, it's what I do with every client. It's what I did with Boyd when we were getting to know each other. Sit by the fire with me and tell me your worst fears, your worst stories, because I have room enough in my heart for all of them. And I said being creative is the opposite of anxiety, but you can't get to creativity if you don't start.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so there's fear, there's avoidance, there's dread, there's catastrophizing. Now what I've found is that when people talk to me about anxiety, they're like, I hate it, I want to get rid of it. I do anything to be rid of it. So I had this theory that the part that holds the insomnia or the part that holds the anxiety or depression is a part that wants to be included. Everything wants to belong, right? When you're saying get away, I don't want you. The part of you that does insomnia and depression goes into a kind of panic because it's now being told it can't belong. You don't want it. You've rejected it. And so it ups the ante and all it knows how to do is keep you awake and make you depressed. So it starts to spiral upwards. I had this huge breakthrough when I was meditating and sometimes when I have a”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not trained, but he's also very generous with his theory, and there are books out there. One is called Self Therapy by Jay Early with little illustrations and everything to tell you how to use it. And the biggest thing I found, especially to relate to anxiety, so there's a part of you that gets anxious and depressed, or maybe there are two different parts, one anxious, one depressed. I don't know. When you think about your anxiety or your depression or your insomnia, how do you think about it? Like what are the thoughts you think?”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Its experience. What Dick found was that the parts have their own unique and whole identities. And if you respect them, they come together and they start to integrate with each other and solve the problems that make your life miserable. And it works really, really well.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This critical voice, or whoever disagrees with the critical voice, and different parts of the patient would start to express themselves. It's not a shift in identity. It's not multiple personalities or anything like that. It's just that we all know we have parts. There's a part of us that loves to go out dancing and a part that likes to stay home and go to sleep. There's a part, you know, that feels little. There's a part that feels strong, whatever. So the thing is the Byron Catie work, for example, if you do it, but only one part of you does it, there may be another part that is just not down with it. And that part needs to have.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think so. IFS is going bananas because it works so damn well. And I got really curious reading about it. So I signed up. I tried to get a training course, but there's a waiting list signed up with my own IFS therapist, ended up meeting Dick Schwartz, who created IFS and having conversations with him about it. And the way he puts it, he was a family therapist. And there were times when he's working with a group of people and say the dad was really aggressive and a child didn't want to talk in front of the dad. He asked the dad to step out of the room and then the child could talk, could speak more freely. And then he was working with just one patient and he heard them using a very critical, angry voice. And he had this odd thing of, could I ask whoever just said that to step out of the body for a minute? Not literally. And to his surprise, the patient said, sure. And then the critical part stepped out and he said, I'd like to talk to whoever is behind.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What you just described is the way the right hemisphere moves with people in motion with the body versus the left hemisphere moves fixed rigid in space. Got to get this right. And there's just, there's an overemphasis in our entire culture, again, an oversimplification. But there's a huge over-emphasis on left hemisphere functions to the point where this, I just, I love this guy, Ian McGilt Christ at Oxford. He says the whole culture functions like someone with a right hemisphere stroke. Like we've lost half our brain and it's the part that includes, that nurtures, that finds meaning, that finds joy. I mean, we have left out the best part.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you know from experience, and it's when you do it for the joy of it the moment you're doing it for money is just work. The reason I went so deeply into it this last January is that I'd always been doing it for the result for a long time. I was doing it for money. I was doing it to give to someone, whatever, to teach. And this was just to activate the right side of my brain. That was it. I would be obsessed with it drawing or a painting. And when it was done, I would just throw it in a, I don't even know where they are anymore. They just started littering the floor. I was in pig heaven. And it really does. When I'm anxious, this is what I tell myself, make something. Make something. You can't stay anxious if you're making something.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I drew and painted like a maniac. I didn't want to sleep. I didn't want to eat. I didn't want to talk to anyone. I just, I was in pure heaven. And the problem was at the end of the month, stopping was horrible. It was like some kind of suicide right there. And now since I finished, I had to get back into my left hemisphere to write the book about it. But as soon as I sent the manuscript. I'm just like completely blissed out.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I used mirror writing constantly as a kid It was amazing to me that other people couldn't read it. I totally maxed out this IQ test once when I was five because the guy had the test right in front of him. He was giving it to me orally. And I thought, doesn't he know I can read it upside down? I'm fine here. I aced that one. Anyway, but just because I can read mirror writing, but try doing that and staying anxious at the same time Can't do it. Then I decided okay, I'm going to take January 2023. I'm going to give myself an entire month in lockdown because the systems are, the conditions are very controlled. So this is a good time for an experiment, the pandemic. I get up every morning and do things that are purely right brain function. So I started with drawing and painting and I thought I'll just go from there.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I would have you write your name, then put your pencil just to the left of your name and write it backwards in mirror writing. So mirror your signature. Then you put your pencil under your signature and do it upside down and then upside down and backwards. Leonardo da Vinci used to write in mirror writing.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Amazingly well, even though I haven't seen any direct studies on it yet, if you put together the science around it, it's kind of an unavoidable conclusion. And when I try it myself, oh my God, the results are ridiculously powerful.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It starts to get curious. So you said something about curiosity really early on in this interview, and I was like, that's the trick. Because if something scares you, if you go to control, you're in anxiety. If you go to curiosity, my mind is open. I have no pre-assumptions. And I want to know what this is about. Instead of anxiety, you get creativity. So it depends which side and one side shuts off the other. So it toggles. So when I asked you to talk about these things that you were sense, the things you love with all five senses, you had to go into the right hemisphere of the brain and it had to shut down the part of the brain that produces anxiety. That's just the machinery. So my premise was anxiety kills creativity. Maybe creativity kills anxiety. So I started designing things to test that and it tests.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It. Problem is the verbal stories that you tell feed back into the amygdala and as environmental reality. So if I'm afraid something's going to jump at me from the dark, it's as if something really is going to jump at me from the dark. So when I say I may have a fatal illness, there's no evidence, but I can literally go into a panic over that because of language. The left hemisphere is also unable or unwilling to acknowledge that the right hemisphere's perspective exists at all. Like if people have a right hemisphere stroke and they're only in the left hemisphere and you tell them to draw a clock, they'll draw the side of the clock from 12 to 6 and they'll say, that's finished. And there's nothing wrong with their eyes. They will not acknowledge anything the right brain is observing. When Jill only had her right brain zero anxiety, zero times, zero physical reality, really. On the right side, the amygdala is afraid, ah.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you're trying to build the tallest tower possible using uncooked spaghetti, a marshmallow, some string, and some tape. And they gave this problem to a whole bunch of engineers, groups of MBA students, groups of lawyers, all these people. They all had similar results. Then they gave it to a group of five-year-olds who won by a country mile. Five-year-olds do better by far at so many creative tests. And why do they stop doing well as they get older? It boils down to socialization and social anxiety. So then I looked at the brain structures and what Jill told me was you basically have two brains. They're symmetrical, but they don't work the same. The left hemisphere has this alarm signal that goes into fear. And then immediately the brain starts to, the left hemisphere starts to try to control whatever's going wrong, whatever makes you afraid, and telling verbal stories about.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I'd been talking to her about this endlessly. I love talking to her. And I was reading a lot of brain science, always have, always will. And I noticed that there were tons of studies that showed that the moment someone is even slightly stressed, their creativity goes to shit. Like they do these creative tests and then they say, we'll pay you $5 if you get the answer. Instead of motivating them, they get that little bit of anxiety. can't do it all these studies showing that little kids happily create things and adults can't do the same things why it always boils down to social anxiety so there's this spaghetti and marshmallow test have you heard of it”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Vegetating somewhere. But fortunately, she was among people who knew how to help her rebuild. So now she goes around telling people we're overusing the left hemispheres of our brains. We need to be able to access the right.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I came to this conclusion I was noticing this huge spike in all my clients of anxiety and I was reading about this massive, mostly in the pandemic, but anxiety just went bananas and it didn't come down when things eased a little bit. And at the same time, I got to be friends with Jill Bolte Taylor, the woman who had the left hemisphere stroke when she was a Harvard neuroanatomist. It was the first TED talk to go viral. And she lost all language and analytical cognition while her left hemisphere was offline, took her eight years to rebuild her brain, but she experienced things with only the right hemisphere that she'd never experienced before this incredible joy, bliss, awe, the feeling of being completely a field of energy, no barriers between physical objects. It was a very different view of the world. If she hadn't been a neuroanatomist, she probably would be sitting in a”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The future of our species depends on people who are neurodivergent in ways that make them unable to fit the culture that Western colonizers created, the weird cultures, right? And that's an oversimplification. And there are many, many cultures. But the overall culture that we have of hierarchical capitalism, whatever, is destroying the planet and teaching people languages by putting them in avalanche courses. Then there are people who just will not because their brains work differently. And you've just got the most unusual brain I've ever seen.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The equipment that I need would actually make them unable to fulfill their mission. Like if I'm climbing, that would not be good in diving. And I couldn't haul an aquatic set of tools up Everest. So I thought, all right, there are things I wish I could do that I can't and things I can do. I don't know. I just can do them. And it's really easy for me and weirdly easy. And I just thought, well, this must be in some way a description of what I'm meant to do with my life. I remember thinking that when I was eight or nine years old and I look at you and you've done so many things that what do you do if you're good at desking you become a champion yay you can do that but your brain is so different and i hope they never medicate it unless it's something that makes you happier but i am really curious about your brain because it's clearly i actually think”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Would Oh my God. Don't know. I mean, my oldest child just self identified as autistic, so I went in and looked at all the symptoms, and I'm like, oh, that's what's been wrong with me this whole time. I truly believe, I believe this thing about destiny. And I remember thinking even as a child, if my destiny is to go to the top of climb to the top of Everest and someone else's destiny is dive to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, really aren't. And I love the way you're so incredibly generous with all your life hacks and everything, but I'm like, okay, so you can learn 12 sentences and then know a language. Not everybody. You can learn the tango and be an Argentine champion. Not everyone. Can but you're you are kind of a freak, you gotta admit that because you don't just pick up hobbies, you pick up hobbies and then become a Japanese translator. It's kind of insane the kind of equipment you were born with. And it must be a heavy burden in some ways and quite lonely because as much as you try to help people be the same, they probably rarely are. And I think Goethe is Goethe's life might have been similar. You are America's Goethe”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Love the stuff about self trust. I'm blanking actually, which I rarely do. All I can think about is Faust now and, you know, how he talks about the bargain with the devil. I think we all make a bargain with the devil metaphorically because we're forced to confront the question, will we do what it takes to be admired and approved of by humans or will we follow the soul? Will we trust ourselves or will we trust what other people want us to be? So the Faustian bargain is the only thing that's really coming to mind right now. Is go to a particular favorite of yours?”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Deviation whatsoever. I've never seen it, and I've been around her when she's exhausted, when she's sick, when she's jet lagged, she's never in psychological suffering, ever, as far as I've seen.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have known a lot of people who claim to be gurus and self-helpers and everything. And she's the only one I've spent quite a lot of time around her. I have never seen any reason to disbelieve what she says about the fact that she lives in perpetual joy.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At you for an hour, very intensely like, I don't believe any of that stuff, it's just phony. And I'm like, explain this, Stephen, and I show him something Katie's done. He just laughs. This is all right. I can't explain that. But it's really nice. He's such a super hardcore analytical. He doesn't believe anything because everything can be disproven. And she is a field of transformation. She just is.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT