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Martha Beck

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“That there's an energetic field that is connecting all of us. And you can feel people's energy. I know I start to sound all new age, and Stephen wants to slap me in the face. He doesn't. He never would. But he gets very grumpy with me. I don't believe any of that stuff”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll tell you something. The work itself is incredibly powerful, but the reason people have these massive shifts with Katie in person, this one guy, he was in a house that was bombed to smithereens in Poland during, I think it was in World War II, and his whole family died and a roof beam fell on him. And it was winter. So he gets up and he's haunted by this moment. And, you know, he's for 50 years, he's carried this. And she says, can you find the nine-year-old boy in that scenario with that roof beam on his head who was just fine? And he thinks for like literally two seconds and goes, oh yeah. And things like this happened around Katie all the time. And the reason is that she has jumped the tracks and to understand why it's so powerful to do the work with her. You have to jump the tracks. You have to start believing.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In that space of don't know mind, it's a little satori, right? And it's really fun to take your fears, put them through Byron Catie's questions, and then look at the turnarounds. And it can really, really change your life just sitting in a chair.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That was the one that really hit the gong in my mind, but I did have several, and very often you can come up with a bunch of them, and some of them are just plain wrong. They don't feel right at all. Some of them are, okay, but it's not changing my life. Nothing terrible is going to happen to me because I wrote this book. I thought, I don't believe that. And actually terrible things did happen to me. Death wasn't one of them, but some things are going to happen to me for sure. So maybe if I hadn't believed it, it wouldn't have happened, but it did. So that one didn't work. Wonderful things are going to happen to me because I wrote that book. I did think that one seemed truer. And it ended up being truer. I just couldn't know what was going to happen. And then I got often for me, it's the one that's strange and not grammatically normal that will break the construct in my mind because I think of the strange verbiage. And it sort of breaks open an assumption.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Love with life, in love with each other, in love with the world, in love with death itself, like in love with everything and their work has just mothered and fathered me through my life. And they've done it themselves as people now. So I love them dearly.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, the way I tell the story, which is not far off the truth, but it's my story, not theirs. But they went to Barstow and Katie was thinking, why does he want to go to Barstow? And they sat in a hotel. I believe they sat on the floor, knee to me, and they looked into each other's eyes without speaking for an hour. And then they got married. That's not. White, but he said to Katie, I've got to go back to New York now. And she just said, Why would you go back to New York? He said, because I live there. And she was like, so. And he said, well, I have to go deal with my affairs. And she said, but you're the only person I've ever met who's of my species. And they talk about two kids in love in their 80s. They are...”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No. And they said, no, you really, really have to. And he's like, I hate gurus. I don't like, oh my gosh. She lives in California. Stephen is very picky. Very picky. He said, all right, I'll go to Barstow where she lives. But she wasn't living in Barstow anymore. She just had lived there. She was living in LA. But he said, she will meet me in Barstow and we will sit down on the floor and we will look into each other's eyes for an hour. And then I will tell you whether I will write her book or not.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On it, and she picks it apart for you, and then you get the reverse, and the reverse of my worst fear here was, I'm going to happen to something terrible because I wrote that book. Instead of something terrible is going to happen to me, it became I'm going to happen to something terrible. And something in my psyche, you just went, click, click, click, click. And I was no longer afraid. I thought I might get killed for sure. I just, I know I was doing what was right for me, period. I never went into a welter over it again. That was just true for me. So that gives you a little tiny, weird backwards taste of the way Byron Katie's work affects you when you do it. And she was doing her work and some people who were into it said to Stephen Mitchell, a great translator in writer, you've got to write a book about this woman. And he said,”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It will sound odd if you haven't been doing the work for a long time, but this is what I've realized the exact verbal opposite of my worst fear. So the opposite, take your worst fear, find the direct opposite of that. That is your next step toward enlightenment. So for example, when I wrote my book about Mormons and I said to the publisher, don't tell anyone until it's published. And they said, you're afraid of the Mormons, how cute. Then the galleys went out and I started getting calls from New York. Why didn't you tell us these people who are insane? We're all going to die. You mess with a religion. You get some weird responses. So I'm on this, if this is a different time. I'm on this plane again. And I'm thinking something terrible is going to happen to me because I wrote that book, something terrible is going to happen to me because I wrote that book. And this thought just dogged me. So I did Byron Catie's work.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's called the work of Byron Kady, and you can go online and download free things, and she's very generous with it.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very, very simple. And I applied it. I started applying it. And there on the plane, I had an injury on my knee. And my thought was, I'm mad at my knee because it won't let me work out. And Katie has this way of reversing everything that's causing you suffering after reading her stuff and doing her work forever. I actually believe that the direct verbal opposite of your worst fear is your next step toward enlightenment. I truly believe that.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I literally. Ran along this mountain path to this large ish waterfall, ran under the waterfall, and just stood there. And then the cold water beating down on it equaled the sort of heat that was rising. I mean, my connection to that book was so overwhelming. And I know it's been powerful for a lot of people. So I memorized it, took it around, gave it to everyone I knew. Then I was on a book tour and I saw this book by a woman named Byron Catie. And it said with a foreword by Stephen Mitchell never would have looked at it if I hadn't seen that. And then I found out on the leaf, on the bookleaf that they were married. And I was like, wow, okay, now I'm interested. So I bought the book, gone on a plane, read the book. And she had a series of four questions, which are very simple. Think of a thought that makes you upset. Is it true? Can you know that it's true? What happens when you think it? Who would you be without it? It seemed.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Speaking of the concept of having parents, I mean, they're friends more than parents, but I really do feel like they kind of reparented me with their books. I read Stevens' version of the Dao Ta Jing right around the time I had the white light experience. That's when it was first published. And it was such an intense, it was like my nervous system caught fire when I read that version. And I'd read other versions and they weren't, they didn't float my boat as much, but there was so much energy in my body that I felt like I was going to literally physically explode. And I drove to a place where I knew I could hike to a waterfall.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the fact that it's not a verbal experience is part of the reason it can fulfill your yearning. And it's also part of the reason you've never gone there. Stephen Hayes, who founded Act therapy, he set out to figure out why humans commit suicide. And no other animal seems to deliberately do that. And his answer is language where the only species that can create a reality with words in our minds that is so terrifying that an unknown future is worse than the fear of death. If you stop thinking in terms of language and logic, which we call that thinking intelligence, it's just, it's like a pair of scissors. It's good for certain tasks. It's not great when you need to stay warm, right? When you jump the tracks into your entire nervous system, which is all part of, it's not disconnected from the brain.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very likely. Been on the path of not there for so long, you don't know what the real for me, that white light thing was the whole track bam! I could not miss it after that experience. But what you just did is an experience of moving into that territory and seeing sort of, you feel the shape of it or that I end up having difficulty describing it in words because it's not a verbal experience.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And yes, as you start to go into that, what you're doing is you're accessing the part of you that is capable of feeling the things you yearn for because everything we actually yearn for is a feeling state. And you can start with these very simple, small things. When I have somebody do this, I have people do this on Zoom calls and put it in the chat and hundreds of words are going by of different beautiful things. And I'll start by saying how nervous, anxious, and depressed are you. They give me a number from 1 to 10. Everybody's nervous and depressed. After they do this for a while and everybody's looking at everyone else's delights, everybody is in a completely different energy state. And that is how you get to the things you yearn for. You jump the tracks from the way we're taught to think to a sensory-based, experiential way of thinking, which is for me more real.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You start to drop into a space that you've created in your mind, but not the part of your mind that we talk about as mind. It's the sensory experience of being human.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Types of symmetry. Okay. So now your job, and as you've been thinking of these things, because there are so many of them and they're activating the parts of your brain that are sensory. And that's taking you away from the analytical cognitive part that's so overdeveloped in most people these days because everything we do develops it more and more. So now your job to learn to be happy is vividly imagine a scene with as many of these components as you can put together. So imagine sitting in a perfectly symmetrical, gorgeous cedar sauna on a snowy mountain looking out. You've got your dog on one side. You've got a responsive female on the other. You've got cheesecake. You've got like somebody's playing the guitar.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the challenge The left side of the brain, I'll give you a hint, can't do it, so it's forcing you to use the right side of your brain more than you usually do. So maybe you can't remember all of them, but like cheesecake, the guitar, whatever it is. Now we're going to go through the other senses. You know we are. What are three things you love to feel with your skin?”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so the task here is you're going to try to hold all these sensations in your memory. You're going to activate them all at once. So you've got cheesecake, you've got the tea, you've got the brisket, you've got the dog, you've got a drug.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ooh, okay. So as you say that, can you remember the sensation of tasting those three things Focus your attention on the actual experience of the taste. Now, tell me three things you love to hear.”
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“So simple So I have you write down whatever your concerns are, then tell me honest goodness three things you love to taste.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Been doing it with people since the pandemic to calm people down, speaking of anxiety. I'd love to do it just a little bit.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not as cognitive. It's not analytical because it's not physical. So it's not measurable. Our particular science doesn't believe that it exists, even though we all want it. So a couple of things. The first thing, it's something I call jumping the tracks. And it's jumping the tracks between seeing your life in purely physical terms and then opening your mind to the possibility of all non-physical realities. And as we know from physics, all physical things are ultimately not physical. So that's the first thing is to say, I live in a world that is not just made up of objects. I live in a world where I deal in energies. When you track the joy through your body, it is a physical sensation, but it's also an energy. So then you start looking for the energies that bring you the essence of what you yearn for. And I've found the simplest exercise.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everybody wants them. And all the lists of things they want, those are all, I call it the difference between your social self and your essential self. The essential self yearns. The social self wants. You've gotten a lot of stuff you wanted. It doesn't make you happy.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Interesting that you made the comment about is it the exact language? That's one of the few places where I'm very exacting about language because somehow we divide that conceptually when we use language, ask people what they want. They make me a list of things, a better job, better relationship, a better car, whatever. And then I say when you wake up at night and it's dark and there's no one around, what do you yearn for? And the list is completely different and it's very short. And almost everyone lists the same things. Peace, belonging, freedom, love, happiness. It's kind of it.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And maybe one hand goes up in a room full of hundreds of people. And then I say to them, why would you be in a different position? And they literally have to think. Then it comes to them after about five seconds. This isn't comfortable. And then I say, that's okay that you're not comfortable because we can handle, we're tough, we're a tough species. We're tolerating discomfort so we can be together in this way. But I do have a problem with the fact that you all just looked me in the eye. And you thought you were telling the truth, but you knew you were lying. And they're like, what? What? And like your body is telling you the truth. That's how cut off we are from our bodies. And that's the first thing you ask yourself and you need to know the truth is, am I comfortable? That'll give you everything else.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do this over and over. I speak in various places, ballrooms and theaters and places. And I'll be talking about how to do better at work. Whatever I've been hired to talk about, and right in the middle, I'll stop and say, wait, wait, is everyone comfortable? And they all look at me as if I'm crazy. I say, no, seriously, are you really comfortable? And they start to say, yes, we're fine. Go on. I'm like, no, I mean it. Are you really comfortable? And the whole audience will get quite angry. Yes, we're comfortable. Just talk. And then I ask them, okay, so now I answer this question. If you were home alone in your bedroom right now, how many of you would be sitting in exactly the position you're in at this moment?”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And yeah, that was even before the white lion and everything. I was already sort of on that path. And now everything appears to me to be illusion. All my thoughts are illusion. And truth is something that I can feel or participate in as consciousness. But I've just been dropping and dropping and dropping my illusions. And I try to do that every day.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Completely innocent and sees that people react nicely when the baby smiles and they don't like it when the baby cries and suddenly they start betraying themselves by smiling when they want to cry. That's the dawn of the loss of integrity and everyone does it, we're a social species. But in Asia, when you set out to be free from suffering, you drop your illusions. So like the illusion, I should be cheerful all the time. If it causes suffering, it has to go. In the doubting, my very favorite book, it says in the pursuit of knowledge, every day something is added. In the pursuit of enlightenment of a Tao, every day something is dropped. So you know less and less until you arrive at non-action and when nothing is done, nothing remains undone. I remember thinking that is so cool, but I don't know why.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I went back to Harvard. So I did my junior year in Singapore. And I went back to Harvard. And I remember sitting in classes and thinking, why do people assume so much? You just assume so much. Like this edifice of stuff you believe that I see no evidence for. And as I went on studying the languages and philosophies of Asia, they have a reverse idea of perfection. So in the monotheistic Western religions, you are born imperfect. You're an imperfect original sinning mess. And your job is to get better and better and more godlike until you can be godlike. You have to get better and better and learn more and more. In Asia, the idea is you're formed completely perfect and you accrue illusions as you grow up. So a baby comes in.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, this was before I had kids or any of the other stuff happened. I went over and spent a year studying Chinese at a research center in Singapore. And then I worked in Japan and studied that for a while. And I wasn't particularly interested at the time in the philosophy, in the deeper wisdom of the Asian cultures. I just saw people offering oranges at little stands on the road and thought, oh, that's weird.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You do what you really want to do. Like, I remember I had one friend. She wanted to come stay with me. I didn't want her to come. And I remember saying, let me think about it. And then we had a conversation later where she was very, very upset. And she said, you paused and you had to think about it. And we were friends. And like, and I said, yeah, that's sometimes I have to think about it. And she said, well, is it that you had something else going on or did you really not want me there? And I was like pinned to the wall and it was physically painful to speak the truth, but it would have been more painful not to. So I said, yeah, I really wasn't in a place where our energies were going to work well together. I just did not feel like it would be good for either one of us. After a while, a few of those and they'll break up with you. I promise.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know what? Lunch sounds great. Breakfast is just too early for me. I'd be miserable. That's just the truth. I'm not being a victim. I'm just telling them the truth. I'm not a morning person. So you sort of claim your right to joy. And you make it really clear that you want them to have joy and you expect yourself to have joy and no one has to keep secrets or cross boundaries that are hurtful in order to make the other person feel good. It's not true. And a relationship built on that. It isn't a real relationship. It'll fall apart. There's so much manipulation going on where people are pretending to do things that each other like. And both of them are miserable.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I didn't want to hurt her. I just had to tell the truth because that light was still right there. And I hadn't gotten any experience being skillful. Here's another bit of language. Know what you really know and feel what you really feel. So for me, it might be something like.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't speak I remember the most awkward tim when I was freaking out about my family and my sexual abuse and everything, my mother called me and said, we hadn't seen you for a while. We'd really, we miss you. And I had just taken this pledge. And I said to her, I miss the concept of having parents.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She's so much fun. Anyway, we've been trying to figure out how to do live events, and our schedules haven't jived very much. And we had the same speaking agent. There was some conflict over that. And I finally had to just go to her and say, I don't think it works for us to have the same speaking agent when we go and we're creating events together. It was kind of hard to say that because we both really love this agent, but Liz and she are really, really close. So I thought it might upset her. And maybe it did. But the fact is it was true. And so she didn't bow an eye. She just said, whatever makes it more fun and gives us more ease when we're together. Great. We want our friendship to be as much fun as joyful as it can be. So that was the track. And it was a little awkward, but it worked.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would say something like what else could we do together? This actually is a really effective thing when you're raising a child. If you just say no, it leaves them with no options. They don't know what to do with their feelings and none of us ever really grows up. So when somebody says that, you say, ah, what else could we do together? If you love them and you care about them, you want to do something with them. It's just not that if you don't want to be around them at all, it's time to say no to the costume party and get rid of those people and not get rid of them. But, you know, cut them loose. So when I started asking people to do things with me that I wanted to do, everybody's life got better. I had so much fun and I didn't have all the awful things where I was pretending to have fun when I wasn't.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We are such little monkeys, you know? I just got back from Costa Rica and we had a fabulous monkey encounter and they had this fear expression and they were afraid of so many things and I just thought we are this far from them. All we've got is shoes to differentiate us from them. And we're terrified of everything all the time. And most of us are really doing our best. And we have all kinds of socialization weirdness. Our brains get reconditioned and rewired for fear. If you're not in integrity and you didn't manage to pull it off and be honest in a hard situation, kindness and gentleness are the truth. I actually wrote a book that's coming out next year after I wrote The Way of Integrity because I was so tough on myself in the integrity thing. And it was making people anxious. And there's a level beyond just telling the truth. And it is called compassion.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You write down what you would do if you were being really honest. And then after a while, once you know what you're dealing with, start to become that person in the way you actually conduct your life. And as you make mistakes and as you don't keep your commitments, forgive yourself. It's one of the things I've found is that it's never true to hate yourself or to condemn yourself. It's never true.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Won't. And they came out of their depression faster than any of the other groups. Every verbal thing we say that is not true hurts our bodies, hurts our psyches, and leads us to anxiety and depression. So in that case, keep a book that says you'll have to deal with the people who don't like you saying, no, I've lost a lot of friends this way. Friends that perhaps needed losing. But I always say just think, know what you really know about something okay. Feel what you really feel. Say what you really mean, at least to yourself in your notebook, and then do what you really want. And that sounds so self-serving, but in fact, it's quite stoical. I know you follow the Stoics and the hedonists. They were weirdly similar. Like they'll do what is true because it's more felicitous to them in every way. So have a notebook where you...”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they want to say no, and they don't know how to say it will try to become victim to me and say, I can't because of this, this, and this, which is horrible because the person always thinks of a way out of those things. I love this quote from Julius Caesar, Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, where his wife says, don't go to the Senate. I had a horrible nightmare. You're going to get stabbed. So the guy comes to get him and he says, go tell the council, Caesar will not come, that I cannot is false, that I dare not falter still. No, go tell the council Caesar will not come. Boom! Like that is my model. And there have been really good studies that show that to get out of depression, one study had control group, a group that had therapy, a group that had meds, and a group that did nothing but eliminate the words I can't and I have to from their responses. Instead, they had to say, I choose not to. I choose to. I will.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, you end up finding out that you say it if it's true, kind and useful and not very few things are all three. But don't lie even with your actions or with your facial expression or anything. Don't eat a bite of food you don't want. That's a lie. I like to be tough on these things. Like I used to run 100 miles a week. Now I will be like, I will never do anything false. And it's fun and rigorous. It is rigorous, I would imagine.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I had no idea how I got there or where to go because I'd lost the true path. And then he shows how you find the true path. So most of us are doing that. And the way you find the true path is to start writing down the things that are true after you've said the things that are not true. Just do that for three days. The white belt blue belt take a month and have a friend where you speak the whole truth to another person, even if it's a therapist or a 12-step group or something. You want to go black belt all in. This is what I try to do. No lying ever, but you don't have to say much. Like consider if what you have to say is an improvement upon silence.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So just note in a little book, okay, I said this, but what was I actually thinking? So somebody said to me, oh, we'd love you to come out and visit. And I said, sure, sometime. But you write down, okay, that was a lie. I would rather die a thousand times than go to stay with these people, whatever. Write the truth down in your little notebook for yourself. That's the path of the truth. Everything else is the path of not there. It's just mushy. I wrote a whole book on this based on the divine comedy because Dante starts that book just saying, in the middle of my life, I found myself just wandering through this horrible dart wilderness.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's do the white belt first. Take a smaller time period. I said a year, take three days a week. And you don't have to say everything you think, but you do have to be aware when you're saying something that you don't believe. So have a little journal or something so that you can, when you lie to someone else, and most lies are told to smooth social interactions. Nobody says you look fat.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I said, and it told me that it's always with us, even though we can't see it. And he said, Oh, I can see it. And I said, You can? He said, yeah. I said, like right now, of course. He was like, yes. I said, where is it? Is it like up there? Is it down here? Is it in your heart? And he just shook his head at me and he said, mom, it's everywhere. That's the world I live in.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what happened? So he told me he was in his room, he was having a struggle. He was 13 years old. This was years before. And a light appeared in his room and touched him. And he said, it told him you can do this. And I said, well, I've seen that light too. And he looked at me like, wow, I didn't think you had it in you.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Consciousness, and that light was a representation of consciousness. But I also believe that this glass is a representation of consciousness and that you are and that a tree is and that a rock is. Everything is brimming with that light. My son actually, 19 years after they told me he was going to ruin my life, we were going home from the funeral of his friend's mother, his best friend's mother. She died. And it was horrible. And he said, mom, I didn't cry at the funeral. And I said, yeah, but you can cry. Strong men cry when things are sad and this is sad. And this is a kid who barely talks. He said, well, it's not so bad once the light comes and opens your heart. And I said, what? A light came and opened your heart. He said, I said, well, when did this happen? He said, May 10th. This was in February. And I was like.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what I make of it right now, first of all, I love it's kind of like the path of not there, don't know mind. I believe in the Zen or any Buddhist concept of don't know mind that in the beginner's mind there are many possibilities and the expert's mind there are few and that none of us really knows anything. And in particular, we have no idea what consciousness is. I've studied physics, I've studied philosophy, theology. Nobody has a clue what consciousness is. One neurologist said, nobody even knows what it would be like to have an idea about what consciousness is. So what I make of it now is that consciousness is the primary reality of the universe. And I do believe in the Copenhagen version of quantum mechanics that the observation of consciousness is making what is merely energetic appear physical. I believe that everything is full of”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT