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Martha Beck

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“I have been making of it. You know, I started meditating and thinking about it, and I think about it every single day. And it's been many years since then.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Tell me what happened in there because this thing happened to me, and that's when he told me about the voice telling him don't give her more anesthesia. And I said, yeah, you were, you did the right thing. And he said, you know how many times this has happened to me in 33 years of medical practice? I said, no. And he said once. And then he kissed me on the forehead and left and wrote me a letter later about it. He said it was not a drug effect. Plus he had a woo-woo experience as well. So take that.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, the surgeon came in and was oddly tender with me. I mean, really, really tender. And I think the reason was that what had happened was I was bleeding internally from a lot of scar tissue that had happened when I was sexually abused, very young. And they knew that some kind of violence must have caused that. So they said, yeah, we don't really understand why you suddenly started bleeding internally, but it was putting pressure and we just had to drain the wound and leave it open. So that's what I said, do you know anything about the anesthesia? They went and got the anesthesiologist and he came back and I started just quizzing him. So what did you give me? What are the effects? What do people report? What are the side effects? Can I have some more? Finally, he just said, look.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I was just like, do people cry? And they said, Yes, surgery is traumatic. And I'm like, no, do they cry because they're happy? And they were like, no, really. So the next day. The big thing was I'm never doing anything that makes me feel separated from that light, not ever. And lying was the first thing to go. That is still, to this day, one of the weird things about experiences like that is they don't fade. Always right there with you in every choice you make, and that's what gave me the ability to do everything else.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Give me more medication, and I talked to him the next day to make sure it wasn't a drug event. And he said that a voice had told him, don't increase the anesthesia. She's crying because she's happy. And he said, did I do the wrong thing? That never happened to me before. So that was odd. Anyway, basically the light was saying to me, you totally bought this whole thing about you're just a physical thing and then you die. And I was like, I know. I said I wasn't going to forget. And then I totally forgot. We were laughing and laughing and laughing. And then it said, look, you're going to go through something really horrible that I'm always here. I'm right here. I've always been here. I always will be. And I woke up in the recovery room and there was this guy who was there from the prison on some sort of work detail. And he was mopping the floor in this room where I woke up and I looked at him and I said, I love you so much.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can't describe it. It was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. It was absolutely captivating. And as I looked at it, it grew and it seemed to sort of penetrate things instead of bouncing off them. And when it touched me, this incredible warmth. I mean, talk about going from 12 years of chronic pain, a lot of psychological suffering to no suffering, zero, absolute joy. beauty, warmth, physical, emotional, every kind of warmth you can imagine, and laughter. There was so much joy in this light. And I was laughing with it. And I heard the surgeons say to the anesthesiologist, she's crying. And I started crying from happiness. And they could see tears coming out. And they thought that I could feel the pain. So the anesthesiologist was going.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then I thought, this is odd that I can see. And I sat up, which was strange because my body was on the table. And I looked around and I watched them operating on me. And they said, there's no tumor. It's just blood. This is scar tissue from old trauma. And then. I lay back and I thought, I don't know what's happening to me. And between the surgical lights, another light appeared. And it was about the size of a golf ball when I first saw it. Know they say we can only see about a trillionth of the available light spectrum. And I think this light had all of it”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's woo woo Wednesday. I'm rushed in for surgery. Actually, I was teaching a psychology class and I was behind a one-way mirror. Students started to talk about it was a free discussion. I was observing. And they started to talk about a number of the women had been raped. And I suddenly got really hot and feverish. And I ran into the hall and passed out cold. I like fell down. I looked up all the students were around me. I got rushed to the hospital and they thought I had a tumor in a very intimate place. They immediately put me in surgery. While I was lying there, I sort of woke up and looked at the surgical lights, which was odd because my eyes were taped closed.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The suffering was bad, but it wasn't bad enough to make me endure the suffering of losing. Wives and husbands and my nieces and nephews, and like everyone for every friend I'd made growing up, I couldn't have done that. But right, I think I made that pledge the day after I came out of an emergency surgery. And I've been told that you are willing to entertain woo-woo things.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Every relationship you have professional or personal, where there's any level of secrecy or untruth begins to fall apart. And then it starts to explode. And that's what happened to me. I just kept seeing what I believed until I realized I'm not Mormon. I don't believe in it at all. So I actually committed the one sin worse than murder. I left. I said, please take my name off the church records. I am not Mormon. So everyone thought I was going to outer darkness. They probably still do. So my family stopped speaking to me. And yeah, then I realized I was gay. So as my husband, that was sort of convenient. So it was very amicable. But I also realized that I love to learn, but I hated being caught up in. Academic politics, so I left my job. Everything went away when I stopped lying and everything that was left was the path of joy.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When I heard the statement, the truth will set you free, it brought me a sense of joy, a sense of peace. So I thought, I don't know exactly what to do or what the truth is. So I'm just not going to lie for a year and we'll see what happens. We'll find out what the truth is. And I found out that mostly what I was lying about, I didn't tell lies about my taxes or anything or in my personal life even, I was telling lies about how I felt. I feel fine. I wouldn't say that anymore. People would say, how are you? And I'd say not well. And it just, you start to do that, try it for a couple of days. Don't tell a single line out to anyone for any reason. And pretty soon.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Mormonism's claims. So the church got very, very upset and came out and said the three greatest threats to God's kingdom in the latter days were feminists, intellectuals, and gay people. So it turned out I was all three. I didn't identify as gay at the time. I was married with children. So I was closeted to myself. That involves a lot of suffering that you don't understand when you're going through it. sexual abuse issues from my father when I was a child. Those were bashing their way to the surface and coming out in flashbacks. And it was gnarly. And the one thing I knew is that”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Real archaeological anthropological truth claims. They don't stand up well under modern science. And my father, he was asked to be an apologist for the church. He was a professor at Berkeley. And they brought him back to BYU, Brigham Young University, and he started defending Mormonism against all attacks. He became very well known in the church. And he has the foremost apologist of Mormonism, I think, in the church's history. So I was considered Mormon royalty. They have a whole structure there. So I went back to Utah and tried to be a good Mormon. At the time, they came out and said there was a lot of unrest. People were just learning too much. And the internet wasn't a thing yet, but there were just too many scientists doing too much research and finding out too much stuff that was disproving.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, he was not. My father was an apologist, which is a word for somebody who defends the principles of a religion. So Mormonism makes a lot of truth claims about things like the American Indians are descended from a group of Israelites that came over in a ship in 600 BC and lots of like”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Did I do it Suffering. I'd like to say I had noble intentions. I was unhappy. I was very physically ill. I'd been sick at that point for 12 years. So in chronic pain for 12 years. And I had this baby with Down syndrome and I thought nobody at Harvard's going to, I just didn't want them all staring at me. So to finish my dissertation, I went back to Utah where I knew that everybody would be thrilled with me not having an abortion, which they were. But then they assumed that I was super Mormon and I tried to fit in just out of respect for my, you know, culture of origin.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“More joy, less joy, less. Okay, don't go there. So take over Londa Lozi for the rest of your life. More joy, less joy. I don't know. It's not clear. Okay, we don't go there yet. It's like going to the optometrist at that point. You know suffering and you know joy. And if it's more like suffering, it's the path of not there. And there are a million ways to suffer. And if it's joy, you know it's the path of yes. And there's actually only one path that takes you straight along the line of joy. And it's your individual destiny. I believe in that stuff.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know the first thing that happened for me when Boyd took me tracking, we went to look for a rhinoceros. They're fairly easy to track, surprisingly difficult, though at the same time. The first thing they do is they show you what a rhinoceros track looks like, clear, plain and simple in really good terrain. Now you know what a rhinoceros is whole foot looks like. And you're going to go out through grass and rocks and trees and everything. And sometimes you'll just see the side of one toe or an imprint where the palm has pressed a leaf down or a bit of mud on a stick. But until you've seen that first track, you don't know what you're looking for. So that's why I fed him ice cream for three days. And when I saw the relaxation, I could say that's your track. Now let's look at the things you're doing in your life. His mom was telling him she thought, you should get a PhD. And I said, okay, hold that thought.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I can't teach it. I can't cultivate it. I can't do it, but I have an unfailing ally and its name is suffering. Because when we lose the track of our joy, we suffer. And that's the only thing that gets our attention enough to make us stop and say, maybe just maybe. I need to find another path here. You've had it yourself, I'm sure.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I don't think he understands his own path to joy at all. And I remember, I said, I've heard that people with Down syndrome can experience joy. And he said, I wouldn't know about that. And I was like, yeah, no, I think they can. And right then, everything changed for me. I waddled around Harvard pregnant out to hear. Everybody knew and I would go into my professor's offices and they'd be like, you've got to put this child in an institution. You're throwing away your career. And I'd look at their little offices and their little piles of books and I'd just look at them and think, are you enjoy? Do you live in joy? Because if you don't, you can't tell me where it is. And I lost the obsession with intellect that I had learned not only at Harvard, but in all of Western culture, that's when it really shifted. For me”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's not telling me to do this because he thinks I'm making a mistake to keep the stupid little boy inside of me. He thinks that there's a stupid little boy inside him and he's trying to kill that. And I thought, oh, he didn't end up at Harvard because he knew he was smart. He ended up there for the same reason I did. He thought he was stupid. He wanted to prove he wasn't. And at that moment, I looked at him and I thought, you know, the reason for my life is joy. I don't see joy on either of this man's faces.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because I couldn't stop vomiting and stuff. Oh, it was such fun how I laughed. I was looking at this guy and he's saying, you need to do this. You're going to ruin your life. He said you're throwing your life away. And I looked at him. And suddenly it appeared he had two faces. And I was really curious. And it was as if there was a face that he was presenting that was his stern Harvard doctor. And then right behind it was this terrified face. Terrified. And I've been sort of terrified myself, but when I saw this, I was like fascinated. I just watched him. And I said, do you know anyone with Down syndrome? He was very flustered. He was like, no, I wouldn't bother with that. And I just watched him and I thought, oh.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You do look really flush. Yeah, I had the one baby already and I had bonded so strongly with the second one that even though I'm very pro-choice saying, you know, he's got to go, he was already my child. I'd seen him sucking his finger on the ultrasound and everything. And I couldn't do it. I've advised other people, I've helped other people go and terminate their pregnancies in similar situations. I just couldn't do it. And I remember the head of gynecology in obstetrics at Harvard at the time, because I was part of that university system. There were five of them. They all thought that I was making a huge mistake to not terminate. The head honcho came in and told me this is like having a malignant tumor and not letting me remove it. And I remember looking at him and I was being rehydrated.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They ran a bunch of tests, and they came back and told me that the fetus had Down syndrome, and I had two weeks to terminate. I was like six months along. So I don't know if you've ever been pregnant, Tim.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The first place I'll go, I learned to brutalize my body that year at Harvard. I was running 100 miles a week and trying to eat less than a thousand calories a day. I did not have any regard for my body at all. I got sick. I got very sick with a multitude of autoimmune diseases. My body correctly figured out that I was the greatest threat to my own health. So I was actually on crutches in a back brace. I was in a lot of pain for a long time. Went back to Harvard after a year off for this issue and got engaged to another IVNX Mormon. We got engaged very young. So I got engaged and married another guy from my hometown and I stayed at Harvard for my master's, my PhD. And we had a daughter and then my second child was conceived when I was halfway through my PhD. And I was caught in an apartment fire right in the middle of the pregnancy. And because of that,”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You did say you wanted me to tell stories. So, yeah, I think when I could see him relax and I saw his shoulders open and I saw him smile spontaneously instead of be polite. There you go. That's the track. That's what we're tracking. And that's what we've done ever since in years and years of wonderful conversations.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So cerebral, and we think that thinking is superior to the physical being. But our thinking process is very late in evolution. Our cognitive minds process about 40 bits of information per second. The nervous system of our entire bodies is processing about 11 million bits of information per second. The body is smarter than the mind. That is a very long answer to a very good question. But if you haven't found joy in the body.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're almost as miserable. If you can't find joy, you can't find joy. It's like oxygen. You need it. It doesn't matter how you lose it or what it looks like to you. You need it. So I remember when Boyd and his sister came to Phoenix to visit me shortly after we met. And I put them through a kind of American therapy, which was I made them lie down on the living room floor and watch Eddie Izzard routines on TV while I brought them ice cream for about three days. And they had just worked like mules their entire lives physically worked, psychologically worked. And they were like, when do we start working? And I just say, sit, eat, laugh. And at the end of the three days, I saw them start to be able to access relaxation, which is the first step toward joy in the body. And our culture is.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You track your life the way you track an animal, but the track you're looking for is joy in the body. And it's so simple to put it that way. And that's, I think that's the first thing we really, where we really connected. And I said, boy, you have to find joy in your body. He'd been through so much trauma. I mean, good. God, it wasn't just the break-in. I mean, he tried to rescue a man from a hot spring, a guy who'd fallen in. The guy died. He was basically boiled alive. He was almost eaten by a crocodile. He's been attacked by more deadly animals and snakes and all kinds of things than you can even imagine. So here was this guy. He was tough and strong and brave. And he had long ago gone numb. And the funny thing is that there are a lot of people who haven't had such a wild life who are sitting under fluorescent lights somewhere and they're just as far off their track as he will.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was like, why stick around where I'll get off the bus? We're all going to die. So why not get off the bus now? And I remember sitting there and thinking the only possible reason for sticking around, I remembered Emerson's statement that beauty is its own excuse for being. And I thought, joy is its own excuse for being. That is the one thing I can experience that makes it worth sticking around for the suffering this life entails. So I shifted my entire life toward a sort of very simple test. Does it bring me joy or does it not? And joy became the track I was following. So Boyd did learn to track animals, but he lost the track of his joy a long time before. And I remember feeling, well, jumping ahead, taking some people out in a seminar and having him turn and tell the group.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so the first thing is for me, and I want to be delicate about this because people get worried when we talk about it, but I watched your TED talk doing homework for this. I watched it again. And you start out very courageously in one of your TED talks talking about being in a depressive period and thinking you might want to end your life. I was so surprised to hear that there are people who haven't been there. I just thought that was how you spend a Thursday. I remember sitting in the Lamont Library at Harvard when I was 17. I call it the Lament Library because all these people had carved their woes into the Harold. It was a freshman library.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Go around to that spot so we could cut over there because the lion had looked at that significantly. And I remember it's like learning to read for the second time, even when you only know a couple of words, it's magic.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just walking along, he's not saying anything. He picks up his stick and makes a circle in the sand, and then he just stands there, doesn't say a word. And I look down and there's a huge pawprint. And it's obviously a lion. So I'm like, it's a lion. And he was like, and he just stood there. And I kept looking at it. And then he held up his hand and he did this. He just shifted it like a quarter inch to one side. And I looked down and I saw that the print had been disturbed in exactly that way. And suddenly I felt myself as if I was down on all fours and I shifted that left paw, that left hand just that little bit. And I realized the lion had looked over his left shoulder and that had made a slight little swish in the track. And so the lion was either looking at something one of his pride mates or one of his potential prey. And he was going to.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Call it the technology of magic because it looks like magic to us if you showed someone from an uncontacted tribe in the Amazon an iPhone, they would say, oh, magic. And we'd say, no, no, technology. When people from are using these ancient forms of wisdom that we don't have, it looks like magic. And we say, magic. And they say, no, no, technology. And I remember the first tracking lesson I ever had with Ranius, who was I couldn't believe he would be so generous, especially to a female because they don't usually train women as trackers.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They hate their job, their marriage is awful, whatever, and they've just kept going and going and going and going. And they haven't woken up and seen that there's not been a footprint for a very long time. And then, by the way, Boyd found the damn porcupine den in the middle of like how he tracked this thing over a rock. I don't know how. He was quite pleased”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, we're out wandering around trying to track. I remember once tracking a porcupine with Boyd, and it was easy on the road because the quill drags are easy to see. And then the porcupine left the road and it was just scrub and rocks and everything. And I didn't know what he was looking at, but he kept walking. And I said, I haven't seen anything for a long time. And I'm completely lost. And he said, no, you're never lost. What you're getting is the information that the place you are now and the way you're going isn't the way you want to end up. And that is an incredibly important place called the Path of Not Here. And every time you realize you're in it, you have the option of shifting, of going somewhere else without recognizing that this is the path of not here. You can't shift. So when I coach people, they're almost always way into the path of not.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Incredible bond that formed between the most unlikely pair of friends. And yeah, he's one of the best people in the world, in my humble opinion.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sister Bonwin and his mother and their teacher were all at home together, and there was a break in. And Boyd woke up with a gun in his mouth. The guy had shoved the barrel of a gun in his mouth and woke him up that way. And they were tied up for five hours. They were threatened with death. So I'm on the plane and I'm sobbing hysterically because this is happening to my best friends. And I was like, you could have been killed. You know what, Tim, it's a good thing that flight was really long because I was out of my mind. I felt so close to Boyd and his family. And I have ever since. It's been like 20 years. And I've gone back and gone back and we've done things together and he's become this incredible coach. And I taught him what I could teach him. He's learned so much more from other people. But it was just this.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The family that owned the game preserve and had started it. It like reforested it and everything Before I knew it, I was at their house with his sister Bronwyn and his parents, Dave and Shan. And I was talking to them as fast as I could about how to deal with attacks from psychopaths. They can handle attacks from almost anything, but psychopaths were new to them. And I was supposed to leave on this small plane. They held the plane for an hour so we could keep talking. And I got on the plane and I had a copy of Dave's book, Dave is Boyd's Father, and he'd written a memoir. And I got on the plane and they shouted after me. Next time you come back, you can stay with us. And I got on the plane with my head spinning. And I thought, I just meant my best friends. And I read Dave's book on the plane and there's a place where Boyd”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Here I am, like he's 23. I'm 43, I think. So we start talking housewife to game ranger, just like a heart-to-heart would be. I don't know how within five minutes we were in such an intense conversation and we were laughing at each other's jokes and we were having this amazing time and we went back to the game preserve place to the camp and we had tea together and he told me, you know, my family's been going through some difficult times. They've had really strange legal things happening and it kind of paralleled what I was going through in some ways. So I felt really understood, but I also thought, oh my gosh, he doesn't understand really what the dynamics of what's going on. And I'm a sociologist. I study psychology as my trade. So I started talking to him about it. And he said, you have to meet my family. I didn't know that his family.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was such a strange thing. I mean, he's told me the story from his side since. All I knew was that I was in a weird period of my own life. I'd written a book about leaving Mormonism. And a lot of people didn't like it. And I was getting death threats and legal threats. And I sort of ran away to do a book tour in South Africa. And I went to my favorite place there, which is a game preserve called Londa Lozi, where I'd been once before. And it was like the thing I had saved it up for and the thing I'd been looking forward to. And I felt safer there with the lions and the rhinoceroses and whatnot than I did anywhere among people. I was terrified of people at the time. Still sort of am, but I was really terrified at that time. So all I knew is that I had a certain ranger who was supposed to be taking me out on safari. And the guy who showed up was a different guy. All right. I didn't really care. But we got talking as we drove around.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My honor, I gave your four hour work week to my then teenage children. I said, I want you to learn the way this man thinks. Whatever you do. Study his mind. It is your new Bible.”
2024-08-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT