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Robin Hanson

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“Sure. I mean, the meaning even, you know. So in the literature on the value people get out of life, there's a key distinction between happiness and meaning. So happiness is how do you feel right now, right now? And meaning is how do you feel about your whole life? And many things that produce happiness don't produce meaning as reliably. And if you have to choose between them, you'd rather have meaning. And meaning is more goes along with sacrificing happiness sometimes. And children are an example of that. You get a lot more meaning out of children, even if they're a lot more work.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Certainly something I've neglected. I would tell my younger version of myself. Try to have more descendants. Yes, absolutely. It matters more than I realized at the time.”
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“That's the usual human trajectory. Expect that to be true of you too. Don't be in such a rush to accomplish enormous things at the age of 18 or whatever. I mean, you might as well practice trying to do things, but that's mostly about learning how to do things by practicing. There's a lot of things you can't do unless you just keep trying”
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“A common problem, at least of many young people I meet, is that they're feeling idealistic and altruistic, but in a rush. So, you know, the usual human tradition that goes back hundreds of thousands of years is that people's productivity rises with time and maybe peaks around the age of 40 or 50. The age of 40 or 50 is when you will be having the highest income. You will have the most contacts. You will sort of be wise about how the world works. Expect to have your biggest impact then. Before then, you can have impacts, but you're also mainly building up your resources and abilities.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Read as many textbooks as you can stomach, and then maybe if you want to know more about a subject, find review articles. You don't need to read the latest stuff for most topics.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like people also ask what to read, and I say textbooks. Until you've read lots of textbooks or maybe review articles, I'm not so sure you should be reading blog posts and Twitter feeds and even podcasts, I would say at the beginning read, you know, this is our best humanity's best summary of how to learn things is crammed into textbooks.”
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“But I mean, so I switched my career at the age of 34 with two kids age zero and two went back to grad school in social science after being a software research software engineer. So it's quite possible to change your mind later in life.”
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“You can just start doing whatever it is you think worth doing. It might take you decades, but decades are enough to make enormous progress on most all interesting things.”
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“Most young people, when they actually ask you that question, what they usually mean is how can I be successful by usual standards? I'm not very good at giving advice about that because that's not how I tried to live my life. So I would more flip it around and say you live in a rich society. You will have a long life. You have many resources available to you Whatever career you take, you'll have plenty of time to make progress on something else. Yes, it might be better if you find a way to combine your career and your interests in a way that gives you more time and energy, but they're often big compromises there as well. So, if you have a passion about some topic or something that you think just is worth pursuing, you can just do it. You don't need other people's approval.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some people are typecasts and they have basically one persona they play in all of their movies and TV shows. And so those people, it probably is the actual persona that they are. Or has become that over time. You know, Clinice would be one, I'd think of Tom Hanks as another, right? They just always play the same person”
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“I actually think this is true of many of the most successful, most interesting people you see in the world. That is, they have put so much effort into the surface that they've constructed. And that's where they put all their energy. So somebody might be a statesman or an actor or something else. And people want to interview them and they want to say, like, what are you behind the scenes? What do you do in your free time? You know what? Those people don't have free time. They don't have another life behind the scenes. They put all their energy into that surface. The one we admire, the one we're fascinated by, and they kind of have to make up this stuff behind the scenes to supply it for you. But it's not really there.”
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“May not be that deep I might just be all on the surface. What you see is what you get. There might not be much hiding behind it.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the key failing is that we have existing political institutions and related institutions like media institutions and other authority institutions. And these institutions sit in a vast space of possible institutions. And the key failing, we're just not exploring that space. So I have made my proposals in that space, and I think I can identify many provincing solutions. And many other people have made many other promising proposals in that space. But the key thing is we're just not pursuing those proposals. We're not trying them out on small scales. We're not doing tests. We're not exploring the space of these options. That is the key thing we're failing to do. And if we did that, I am confident we would find much better institutions than the one we're using now, but we would have to actually try.”
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“They want to show loyalty to their allies. They want to show their people they're on their side, yes. There are various tribes they're in. That's their primary priority, and they do accomplish that.”
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“Another big view Craig about politics is from the elf in the brain that most people when they're interacting with politics, they say they want to make the world better or they make their city better, their country better, and that's not their priority.”
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“So, most political systems, if everybody looked to some authority, say, on a question and that authority told them the answer, then most political systems are capable of just doing that thing. That is, and so it's the failure to have trustworthy authorities. That is sort of the underlying failure behind most political failure. We have, we invade Iraq, say, when we don't have an authority to tell us that's a really stupid thing to do. And it is possible to create. More informative, trustworthy authorities. That's a remarkable fact about the world of institutions that we could do that, but we aren't.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's what goes wrong. That is what you say, what's fundamentally behind most political failures, it's that people are ignorant of what the consequences of policy is. And that's surprising because it's actually feasible to solve that problem, which we aren't solving.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now another view cake that I learned in my research that's not all of economics, but something more specialized is the rationality of disagreement. That is, basically people who are trying to believe what's true in a complicated situation would not actually disagree. Of course, humans disagree all the time, so it was quite a striking fact for me to learn in grad school that actually rational agents would not knowingly disagree. And so that makes disagreement more puzzling and it makes you less willing to disagree.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Even when those things happen, still just the simple market solution is usually better than the things you'll try to do to fix it”
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“So, the idea is if people want something, then let other companies form to try to supply that thing, let those people pay for their cost of whatever they're making and try to offer that product to those people. Let many people, many such firms enter that industry and let the customers decide which ones they want. And if the firm goes out of business, let it go bankrupt and let other people invest in whichever ventures they want to try to try to attract customers to their version of the product. And that just works for a wide range of products and services.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You might have thought it was just really hard to figure out how to optimize in a big, complicated space. And Marcus just do a good first pass for an awful lot of stuff. And they are really quite robust and powerful. And that's just quite their view, Craig, where you just say, you know, just let up, if you want to get in the ballpark, just let a market handle it and step back. And that's true for a wide range of things. It's not true for everything, but it's a very good first approximation. Most people's intuitions for how they should limit markets are actually messing them up. They're that good in sense, right? Most people, when you go, I don't know if we want to trust that. Well, you should be trusting that.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure. So, as you said before, there's going to be the first view cake most people encounter that makes the biggest difference on average in the world, because that's the only thing most people ever see is the first one. And so, you know, with AI, the first one is just how big the problem is. But once you get past that, you'll find others. Certainly for economics, the first one is just the power of markets.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we often through the history of AI, we saw very impressive demos that never really translated much into commercial value.”
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“We can reason well by looking at the past friends, I would say the past trend is roughly your best guess for the future future.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The history of the level of disruption we've seen in the past would be a rough estimate of the level of disruption in the future, unless the future is we're going to hit a chunky territory, much chunkier than we've seen in the past.”
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“Sure, but every once in a while we have a new thing that's surprising. But if you stand back, we see something like that every 10 years or so, something new innovation is great. That has a big effect.”
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“It modestly chunky, not that chunky, right? Our ability to use computers to do many things in the economy has been moving relatively steadily overall in terms of our use of computers in society.”
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“So my best The history of computer science and chunkiness so far seems to be my rough best guess for the chunkiness of AGI.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, but it's about how far away it is or how suddenly it would happen. Chunkiness is a house suddenly and difficulty is just how far away it is. But it could be a continuous difficulty. It could just be far away, but we'll slowly, steadily get there. Or there could be these thresholds where we reach a threshold and suddenly we can do a lot better.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we're thinking about chunkiness or distance now. So if you ask how chunky is the task of making a emulatable robot or something,”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For it, but it could be that the first emulation costs a billion dollars each, right? And then we have them, but we can't really use them. They're too expensive. Then the cost slowly comes down. And now we have less of a chunky adaptation adoption, right? That as the cost comes down, then we use more and more of them in more and more context. And that's a more continuous curve. So it's only if the first emulations are relatively cheap that you get a more sudden disruption to society. And that could happen if sort of the algorithm is the last thing you figure out how to do or something.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, so it has a certain level of redundancy and a certain level of robustness. And so there's some threshold when you get close to that level of redundancy and robustness, then it starts to work. But until you get to that level, it's just going to be crap, right? It's going to be just a big thing that isn't working for us. So we can be pretty sure that emulations is a big chunk in an economic sense, right? At some point, you'll be able to make one that's actually effective in substituting for humans, and then that will be this huge economic product that people will try to buy like crazy.”
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“So there'll be some threshold. The question is when you get close enough, then it goes over the threshold, right? It's like,”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's pretty obvious. I'm talking about so the key thing is you're emulating various brain cells. And so you have to emulate the input-output pattern of those cells. So, if you get that pattern somewhat close but not close enough, then the whole system just doesn't have the overall behavior you're looking for, right?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“An M is by its nature chunky in the sense that if you have an emulated brain and you're 25% effective at emulating it, that's crap. That's nothing. Okay. You pretty much need... To emulate a full human brain.”
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“There's all these better algorithms you can't try until you have a big enough computer to pay the fixed cost of doing some trials to find out if that algorithm actually saves you on the marginal cost. And so that's an explanation for this relatively continuous history. So we have a good story about why hardware is so continuous, right? And you might think, why would software be so continuous with the hardware? But if there's a distribution of algorithms in terms of their fixed costs and it's, say, spread out at a wide log normal distribution, then we could be sort of marching through that log normal distribution, trying out algorithms with larger fixed costs and finding the ones that have lower marginal costs.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, one standard story about algorithms is to say algorithms have a fixed cost plus a marginal cost. And so in history, when you had computers that are very small, you tried all the algorithms that had low fixed costs. And you look for the best of those. But over time, as computers got bigger, you could afford to do larger fixed costs and try those. And some of those had more effective algorithms in terms of their marginal cost. And that, in fact, it roughly explains the long-term history where, in fact, the rate of algorithmic improvement is about the same as the rate of hardware improvement. Which is a remarkable coincidence. But it would be explained by saying, well,”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if you have a history of prior chunkiness, that could be your best estimate for future chunkiness. So, for example, I mean, even at the level of the world economy, right, we've had this, what, 10,000 years of civilization? Well, that's only a short time. You might say that doesn't predict future chunkiness. But it looks relatively steady and consistent. We can say even in computer science, we've had seven years of computer science. We have enough data to look at chunkiness of computer science, like when were there algorithms or approaches that made a big chunky difference? And how large a fraction of that was that? And I'd say mostly in computer science, most innovation has been relatively small chunks. The bigger chunks have been rare.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then I think, well, it's got to be composed of lots of parts where anyone innovation is only a small impact, right? Now, if you think, no, no, no, AI is like AGI. And then you think AGI is a small thing, right? There's only a small number of key innovations that will enable it. Now you're thinking there could be a bigger chunk that you might find that would have a bigger impact. So the way I would ask you to frame these things in terms of the chunkiness of different areas of technology, in part in terms of how big they are. If you take 10 chunky areas and you add them together, the total is less chunky.”
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“But still, even so, mostly overall, they're making modest differences to something that's increasing relatively steady, like U.S. military is the strongest in the world consistently for a while. No one weapon in the last 70 years has made a big difference in terms of the overall prominence of the US military, right? Because that's just saying even though every once in a while, even the recent Soviet hyper missiles or whatever they are, they aren't changing the overall balance dramatically, right? So, when we get to AI, now I can frame the question, how big is AI? Basically, so one way of thinking about AI is it's just all mental tasks. And then you ask what fraction of tasks are mental tasks? And then I go a lot. And then, if I think of AI as like half of everything.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. So at the scale of the whole economy, right? Now, as you move down to a much smaller scale, you will see individual innovations having a bigger effect, right? So if you look at, I don't know, lawnmowers or something, I don't know about the innovations lawnmower, but there are probably like steps where you just had a new kind of lawnmower and that made a big difference to mowing lawns. Because you're focusing on a smaller part of the whole technology space, right? So, and you know, sometimes like military technology, there's a lot of military technologies, a lot of small ones, but every once in a while a particular military weapon makes a big difference”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One way to think about it is in terms of the scope of the technology space you're talking about. So let's take the biggest possible scope, all of human technology, right? The entire human economy. So the entire economy is composed of many industries, each of which have many products with many different technologies supporting each one. At that scale, I think we can accept that most innovations are a small fraction of the total. That is, usually you have relatively gradual overall progress And that individual innovations that have a substantial effect, the total are rare and their total effect is still a small percentage of the total economy, right? There's very few individual innovations that made a substantial difference to the whole economy, right? What are we talking steam engine, shipping containers, a few things.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So that's the question of how much any individual makes in the long path of civilization over time. And it's a favorite topic of historians and people to try to focus on individuals and how much of a difference they make. And certainly some individuals make a substantial difference in the modest term, right? Like, you know, certainly without Hitler being Hitler in the role he took, European history would have taken a different path for a while there. But if we're looking over many centuries longer term things, most individuals do fade in their individual influence.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Clearly, the biggest view quake in artificial intelligence is the realization of just how complicated our human minds are. So most people who come to artificial intelligence from other fields or from relative ignorance, a very common phenomena which you must be familiar with is that they come up with some concept and then they think that must be it. Once we implement this new concept, we will have it. We will have full human level or higher artificial intelligence, right? And they are just not appreciating just how big the problem is, how long the rogue is, just how much is involved. Because that's actually hard to appreciate. When we just think it seems really simple. And studying artificial intelligence, going through many particular problems, looking at each problem, all the different things you need to be able to do to solve a problem like that makes you realize all the things your minds are doing that you are not aware of. That's that vast subconscious that you're not aware. That's the biggest view.”
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“At least for a long time, 20 years kind of thing. Exactly. So that's the place where you can have the biggest impact is finding the things that nobody would do unless you did them.”
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“Them missing things. So when I'm trying to help the world like doing research, I'm looking for neglected things. I'm looking for things that nobody's doing it. If I didn't do it, nobody would do it.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To try to push us all a little faster, which is great, but I still think we would have gotten roughly to the same place within half century. So sometimes people are special because of how much longer it would have taken. So some people say general relativity would have taken longer without Einstein than other things. I mean, Heisenberg quantum mechanics, I mean, there were several different formulations of quantum mechanics all around the same few years means no one of them made that much of a difference. We would have had pretty much the same thing regardless of which of them did it exactly when. Nevertheless, I'm happy to celebrate them all. But this is a choice I make in my research. That is when there's an area where there's lots of people working together who are sort of scoping each other and getting a result just before somebody else does. You ask, well, how much of a difference would I make? At most, I could make something happen a few months before somebody else. And so I'm less worried about...”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. So I think when you look at sort of just the history of physics and the history of other areas, you know, some areas like that, there's just this enormous convergence that the different kind of evidence that was being collected was so redundant in the sense that so many different things revealed the same things that eventually you just kind of have to accept it because it just gets obvious. So if you look at the details, of course, you know Einstein did it before somebody else and it's well worth celebrating Einstein for that. And we by celebrating the particular people who did something first or came across something first. We are encouraging all the rest to move a little faster.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The remarkable thing about physics and about many other areas of academic intellectual life is that it just seems way over determined. If it hadn't been for Einstein, or if it hadn't been for Heisenberg, certainly within a half a century, somebody else would have come up with essentially the same things.”
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“And quantum mechanics is just a whole different representation. It looks nothing like what you would have thought as sort of the basic representation of the physical world. And that was quite a surprise.”
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