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Robin Hanson

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“You could say that one motivation I might have is less motivated to be sort of comfortably accepted into some particular intellectual community and more willing to just go for these more fundamental long shots that should be very important if you could find them.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Most intellectuals are relatively risk averse. They are in some local intellectual tradition, and they are adding to that, and they are staying conforming to the sort of usual assumptions and usual accepted beliefs and practices of a particular area so that they can be accepted in that area and treated as part of the community. But you might think for the purpose of the larger intellectual project of understanding the world better, people should be less eager to just add a little bit to some tradition and they should be looking for what's neglected between the major traditions and major questions. They should be looking for assumptions maybe we're making that are wrong. They should be looking at ways, things that are very surprising, like things that would be, you would have thought a priori unlikely that once you are convinced of it, you find that to be very important and a big update, right?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What's a good one? So, for example, I can very much acknowledge that I would like to be well thought of. That I would be seeking attention and glory and praise. From my intellectual work, and that that would be a major agenda driving my intellectual attempts. So, you know, if there were topics that other people would find less interesting, I might be less interested in those for that reason, for example. I might want to find topics where other people are interested and I might want to go for the glory of finding a big insight rather than a small one. And maybe one that was especially surprising. That's also, of course, consistent with some more ideal concept of what an intellectual should be.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Almost by definition, I can't tell you what I'm deceiving myself about, but the more practical strategy that's quite feasible is to ask about what are typical things that most people deceive themselves about and then to own up to those particular things.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, to be trying to present a story that would be okay for what other things, but we're very constantly thinking what do other people think.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We humans are social creatures. Plausibly being social is the main reason we have these unusually large brains. Therefore, most of our brain is devoted to being social. And so the things we are very obsessed with and constantly paying attention to are how do I look to others? What would others think of me if they knew these various things they might learn about me?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The vast majority of what's happening in your head, you're unaware of. So in a literal sense, the unconscious, the aspects of your mind that you're not conscious of is the overwhelming majority. But that's just true in a literal engineering sense. Your mind is doing lots of low-level things, and you just can't be consciously aware of all that low-level stuff. But there's plenty of room there for lots of things you're not aware of.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They don't want to accept it about the particular topics that we talk about. So people accept the idea in the abstract that they might be self-deceived or that they might not be honest about various things. But that hasn't penetrated into the literatures where people are explaining particular things like why we go to school, why we go to the doctor, why we vote, etc. So our book is mainly about 10 areas of life and explaining about in each area what our actual motives there are. People who study those things have not admitted that hidden motives are explaining those particular areas.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right now, most people actually are willing to believe that this is true in the abstract. So our book has been classified as psychology, and it was reviewed by psychologists. And the basic way that psychology referees and reviewers responded is to say this is well known. Most people accept that there's a fair bit of self-deception”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And similarly for many other norms, humans have, we are serious about these norms and we don't want people to violate them. We find them violating. We're going to accuse them. But many norms have a motive component. And so we are trying to explain ourselves and make sure we have a good motive story about everything we do, which is why we're constantly trying to explain what we're doing. And that's what your conscious mind is doing. It is trying to make sure you've got a good mode of story for everything you're doing. And that's why you don't know why you really do things. What you know is what the good story is about why you've been doing things.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. So humans have norms and we have the norm that if we see anybody violating a norm, we need to tell other people and then coordinate to make them stop and punish them for violating. Such benefits are strong enough and severe enough that we each want to avoid being successfully accused of violating norms. So, for example, hitting someone on purpose is a big, clear norm violation. If we do it consistently, we will maybe be thrown out of the group, and that would die. Okay, so we need to be able to convince people we are not going around hitting people on purpose. If somebody happens to be at the other end of our fist and their face connects, that was an accident. And we need to be able to explain that.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Humans compared to most other animals have norms, and this allows us to manage larger groups with our morals and norms about what we should or shouldn't be doing. This is so important to us that we needed to be constantly watching what we were doing in order to make sure we had a good story to avoid norm violations. So many norms are about motives. So if I hit you on purpose, that's a big violation of hit you accidentally. That's okay. I need to be able to explain why it was an accident and not on purpose.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your conscious mind, the one that's listening to me that I'm talking to at the moment. You like to think of yourself as the president or king of your mind, ruling over all that you see, issuing commands that immediately obeyed. You are instead better understood as the press secretary of your brain. You don't make decisions, you justify them to an audience. That's what your conscious mind is for. You watch what you're doing. Brilliant. And you try to come up with stories that explain what you're doing so that you can avoid accusations of violating norms.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, as we discussed my first priority is to just tell people about it, to do the analysis and the cold facts of what's actually happening, and then to try to be careful about how we can improve. So our book, The Elephant in the Brain, co-authored with Kevin Simmler, is about hidden motives in everyday life. And our first priority there is just to explain to you what are the things that you are not looking at that you are reluctant to look at. And many people try to take that book as a self-help book where they're trying to improve themselves and make sure they look at more things and that often goes badly because it's harder to actually do that than you think And so, but we at least want you to know that That this truth is available if you want to learn about it.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are many things about which people don't want to know certain kinds of truths That is bad looking truths, truths that discouraging, truths that sort of take away the justification for things they feel passionate about.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They just don't want to know, and so they don't learn this. So, you know, I've lived in the Washington area for several decades now reading the Washington Post regularly. Every week there was a special, you know, section on health and medicine. It never was mentioned in that section of the paper in all the 20 years I read that.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Randomized experiments don't find that fact. Do not find that more medicine makes you more healthy. There are just no connections. In randomized experiments, there's no relationship.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The people who get more medicine are not healthier. Just overall, in general, just like induce somebody to get more medicine because you just give them more budget to buy medicine, say. Not a specific medicine, just the whole category. And you would think that would be something most people should know about medicine. You might even think that would be a conspiracy theory to think that would be hidden. But in fact, most people never learn that fact.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Elucidate called suffrage scale, but of course, say during wartime, the people who are managing the various conspiracies like D-Day or Manhattan Project, they thought that their conspiracy was avoiding harm rather than causing harm. So if you can get a lot of people to think that supporting the conspiracy is helpful, then a lot more might do that. And there's just a lot of things that people just don't want to see. So if you can make your conspiracy the sort of thing that people wouldn't want to talk about anyway, even if they knew about it, you're, you know, most of the way there. So I have learned many over the years many things that most ordinary people should be interested in, but somehow don't know, even though the data has been very widespread. So I have this book, The Elephant in the Brain, and one of the chapters is there on medicine. And basically, most people seem ignorant of the very basic fact that when we do randomized trials or we give some people more medicine than others,”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The phrase itself is pushing you in a direction, right? So clearly in history we have had many large coordinated keepings of secrets, say the Manhattan Project, right? And there was hundreds of thousands of people working on that over many years. They kept it a secret, right? Clearly many large military operations have kept things secrets over. You know, even decades with many thousands of people involved. So clearly, it's possible to keep something secret over time periods. But the more people you involve and the more time you are assuming and the more the less centralized an organization or the less discipline they have, the harder it gets to believe. But we're just trying to calibrate basically in our minds which kind of secrets can be kept by which groups over what time periods for what purposes, right?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Where they were faking a lot of big things in order to mess with people. So that's a possibility. The government's been lying and faking things and paying people to lie about what they saw, et cetera. That's a plausible set of explanations for the range of sighting scene. And another explanation people offer is some other hidden organization on earth or some secret organization somewhere that has much more advanced capabilities than anybody's given it credit for for some reason it's been keeping secret. They all sound somewhat implausible, but again, we're looking for maybe one in a thousand sort of priors. The question is, you know, could they be at that level of plausibility?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The other categories of explanations that most people will use is, well, first of all, just mistakes, like you're confusing something ordinary for something mysterious, right? Or some sort of secret organization like our government is secretly messing with us and trying to do a false flag ops or whatever, right? They're trying to convince the Russians or the Chinese that there might be aliens and scare them into not attacking or something, right? The history of World War II say the U.S. government did all these big fake operations.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Only 300 million years at most it appeared, and then it was really complicated at that point. So panspermia allows you to explain that complexity by saying, well, it's been another five billion years on another planet going through lots of earlier stages where it was working its way up to the level of complexity you see at the beginning of Earth”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's some graphs that I've been impressed by that show sort of the level of genetic information in various kinds of life on the history of Earth. And basically we are now more complex than the earlier life, but the earlier life was still pretty damn complex. And so, if you actually project this log graph in history, it looks like it was many billions of years ago when you get down to zero. So plausibly you could say there was just a lot of evolution that had to happen before you to get to the simplest life we've ever seen in history of life on Earth was still pretty damn complicated. And so that's always been this puzzle. How could life get to this enormously complicated level in the short period it seems to at the beginning of Earth history?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The simple scenario is that life started on some other planet billions of years ago. And it went through part of the stages of evolution to advanced life, but not all the way to advanced life. And then some rock hit it, grabbed a piece of it on the rock, and that rock drifted for maybe in a million years until it happened the stellar nursery where it then seeded many stars.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're clever enough that we can figure out their agenda that is just from the fact that we're here. If we see that they're here, we can figure out, oh, they want us not to expand. And look, they are this huge power and they're very impressive. And a lot of us don't want to expand. So that could easily tip us over the edge towards... We already wanted to not expand. We already wanted to be able to regulate and have a central community. And here are these very advanced smart aliens who have survived for 100 million years and they're telling us not to expand either.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And these are aliens, for God's sakes, right? There's just going to be something about them that we hate. They eat babies. Who knows what it is, something they don't think is offensive, but that they think we might find. And so they would be risking a lot by revealing a lot about themselves. We would find something we hated.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So the claim is that their current strategy of hanging out at the periphery of our vision and just being very clearly physically impressive with very clear, physically impressive abilities. Is at least a plausible strategy they might use to impress us and convince us sort of we're at the top of their status hierarchy And I would say if they came closer, not only would they risk hurting us in ways that they couldn't really understand, but more plausibly they would reveal things about themselves we would hate. So if you look at how we treat other civilizations on Earth and other people, we are generally interested in foreigners and people from other plant lands, and we were generally interested in their varying customs, et cetera, until we find out that they do something that violates our moral norms, and then we hate them.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. So if you go touch stuff, you're likely to hurt it, right? There's a good risk of hurting something by getting too close and touching it and interacting, right? Yeah, like landing.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it is important that you be non threatening and that you be local. So I think, for example, if the aliens had done something really big in the sky, you know, 100 light years away. That would be there, not here. And that could seem threatening. So I think their strategy to be the high status would have to be to be visible, but to be here and non-threatening.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we domesticate many animals that way, but as we just swap into the top of their status hierarchy and we say we're your top status animals, so you should do what we say, you should follow our lead. So the idea that would be they are going to get us to do what they want by being top status. You know, all through history, kings and emperors, et cetera, have tried to impress their citizens and other people by having the bigger palace, the bigger parade, the bigger crown and diamonds, right, whatever, maybe building a bigger pyramid, etc. It's a very well-established trend to just be high status by being more impressive than the rest.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Dear leader. Well, I would say their strategy is to be impressive and sort of get us to see them at the top of our status hierarchy just to, you know, that's how, for example, we domesticate dogs, right? We convince dogs we're the leader of their pack.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So they'll not freak out apart is another interesting constraint. So, again, I said the two obvious strategies are just to remain completely invisible and watch, which would be quite feasible, or to just directly interact. Let's come out and be really very direct, right? I mean, there's big things that you can see around. There's big cities. There's aircraft carriers. There's lots of, if you want to just find a big thing and come right up to it and tap it on the shoulder or whatever, that would be quite feasible. And they're not doing that. My hypothesis is that one of the other questions there was, do they have a status hierarchy? And I think most animals on Earth who are social animals have status hierarchy. And they would reasonably presume that we have a status hierarchy.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that's puzzling. So, I mean, the prototypical UFO observation is a shiny big object in the sky that has very rapid acceleration and no apparent surfaces for using air to manipulate its speed. And the question is why that, right? Again, if they just, for example, if they just wanted to talk to our computer systems, they could like move some sort of like a little probe that like connects to a wire and reads and sends bits there, they don't need a shiny thing flying in the sky.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The what they wanted to have close contact with was something that was closely near humans, then they would be contacting those. And we would just incidentally see, but we would still see.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're worried about an expansion, then they're worried about a civilization that could be capable of expansion. Obviously, humans are the civilization on Earth. That's by far the closest to being able to expand.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They had two extreme options they could have chosen and didn't choose. They could have either just remained completely invisible. Clearly an advanced civilization could have been completely invisible. There's no reason they need to fly around and be noticed. They could just be in orbit in dark satellites that are completely invisible to us watching whatever they want to watch. That would be well within their abilities. That's one thing they could have done. The other thing they could do is just show up and land on the White House lawn, as they say and shake hands, like make themselves really obvious. They could have done either of those and they didn't do either of those. That's the next thing you need to explain about UFOs as aliens. Why would they take this intermediate approach of hanging out near the edge of visibility with somewhat impressive mechanisms, but not walking up and introducing themselves nor just being completely invisible?”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, no doubt they have a button that if we get too uppity or risky, they can push the button and ensure that we don't expand. But they'd rather do it some other way. So now that explains why they're here and why they aren't out there. There's another thing that we need to explain. There's another key data we need to explain about UFOs if we're going to have a hypothesis that explains them. And this is something many people have noticed, which is”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which is because that's we can see that they did not, they must have enforced a rule against that, and they are therefore here to do that's a plausible interpretation why they would risk this expedition when they clearly don't risk very many expeditions over this long period to allow this one exception because otherwise if they don't, we may become grabby and it could have just destroyed us, but they didn't.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right through various mechanisms. So obviously, one thing we concluded is they didn't just destroy us. That would have been completely possible, right? So the fact that they're here and we are not destroyed means that they chose not to destroy us. They have some degree of empathy or whatever their morals are that would make them reluctant to just destroy us. They would rather persuade us.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So panspermia siblings is one part of the scenario, which is that's where they came from. And from that, we can conclude they had this rule against expansion, and they've successfully enforced that. That also creates a plausible agenda for why they would be here, that is, to enforce that rule in us. That is, if we go out and expanding, then we have defeated the purpose of this rule they set up. So they would be here to convince us to not expand.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're thinking of people. We're talking aliens. Remember, there's a vast space of different possible social creatures they could have evolved from, different cultures they could be in, different kinds of threats. I mean, there are many things that you talked about that most of us would feel very reluctant to do. This isn't one of those, but”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Imagine the Europeans that tried to prevent anybody from leaving Europe to go to the New World. And imagine what it would have taken to make that happen over 100 million years.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But if incompetent, then they couldn't maintain this over 100 million years, this policy of not allowing any expansion. So we have to see they have successfully. They not just had a policy to try. They succeeded over 100 million years in preventing the expansion. That's a substantial competence.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say they would have to have enforced a rule against expanding, and that rule would probably make them reluctant to let people leave very far, you know, any one vacation tripped far away could risk an expansion from the six vacation trip. So they would probably have a pretty tight lid on just allowing any travel out from their origin in order to enforce this rule. But then we also know, well, they would have chosen to come here. So clearly they made an exception from their general rule to say, okay, but an expedition to Earth, that should be allowed.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If they chose not to expand, that's going to have to be a rule they set to not allow any part of themselves to do it. If they let any little ship fly away with the ability to create a colony, the game's over. Then they have prevented, then the universe becomes grabby from their origin with this one colony, right? So in order to prevent their civilization being grabby, they have to have a rule enforce pretty strongly that no part of them can ever try to do that”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Less than a billion, but still plenty of time that they could have become grabby and filled the galaxy and gone beyond. So there'd be plenty. So the fact is they chose not to become grabby. That would have to be the interpretation. If we have panspermia symbibles”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So that would create this correlation between when advanced life might appear. No longer just random independent spaces and space-time. There'd be this cluster perhaps.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So if they did, they could know all this and they could go searching for their siblings. That is, they could look in the sky for the other stars that the spectrum that matches the spectrum that came from this nursery. They could identify their sibling stars in the galaxy, the thousand of them. And those would be of special interest to them because they would think, well, life might be on those. And they could go looking for them.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Lots of rocks flying around. Okay, so a pans-Bermia scenario would then create siblings, i.e. there would be, say, a few thousand other planets out there. So after the nursery forms, it drifts, it separates. They drift apart. And so out there in the galaxy, there would now be a bunch of other stars all formed at the same time. We can actually spot them in terms of their spectrum. And they would have then started on the same path of life as we did with that life being seeded, but they would move at different rates And most likely most of them would never reach an advanced level before the deadline, but maybe one other did, and maybe it did before us.”
2022-06-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source