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Russ Hudson

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“Or teacher how even handed is it? How much are the teacher or writer's prejudices hanging out like they had a bad relationship with the four? So the four gets a lot of shade, you know, or maybe it was a three or some type is still idealized for some reason. So when you have more mature teachers or teachings, there's a fair and a... Seeing the light and shade of each of the Enneagram types.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Two places that would be the site that was created for Don Riso and me, and our work is on there and our Enneagram test the Ready RHETI is on that site. Also, I have a site just for what I'm doing that includes stuff that I'm not doing with the institute. And that's just Russhudson.com. You know, some of my colleagues have done wonderful work. I would say, you know, you're better off with people who have been studying this a while and I would also say that whatever book you look at, consider that it is a view on this. None of them is the Bible. None of them is the final say. And you'll feel in just what's helpful, what's useful, what actually opens things up for you and what tends to reinforce. The other thing I always look for in any Enneagram book or teacher.”
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“Yeah, a lot of people, including other teachers, will sort of acknowledge it's like a classic textbook. I've done 20 more years of study, so there's a few quibbles I'd have with things I said in that book. But overall, I think it's powerful because it also gives you the orientation. It's not just describing types. We wrote a number of books and any of them would be worthy. We have websites, the AnagreementStoot.com is just Enneagram Institute.com is”
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“Well, you know, there's a lot of good material out there. There's a number of books. It kind of depends on your orientation. I, of course, am feel that some of the books that Don Richariso and I wrote together are very solid and helpful. A lot of people would say that the book, the wisdom of the Enneagram that he and I wrote.”
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“Exactly. So as I feel someone will do that, then I will start working it out and I'll feel more connected and it helps heal what's ever going on in the relationship. And of course, again, five, six, and seven are the worst in being steady for somebody when they're not having troubles. Am I in the relation? Am I out? Am I too close? Am I running away? I'm all over the place. Nobody knows what I'm going to do, including me. That's one bit of advice around all that stuff.”
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“Consistent, right? And so if I perceive that you're just here with me and trust, you know, and I'm going to work this out all five, six, and seven has that conviction. I will work this out. But if I know you're there, you're my ally. You're in this with me and you're not leaving me and not trying to take over. All three five, six, seven, hate to be the recipient of someone else helping them or saving them.”
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“I'm relieved and I'll come forward and I will meet you more. And that, you know, all three of them really don't expect. They're surprised when they perceive that someone sees them or gets them. They don't expect it. Of course, everybody's like that to some degree, but twos, threes, and fours, that's the main thing. And again, when we are not doing too well, we punish others by withdrawing our seeing and validation of them. We just kind of cut them off emotionally. Five, six, and seven, it's a little harder to put in a word, but they're looking for someone who can just be there with them in a steady way. Not approaching, not withdrawing, not gloming on or taking over or fixing and not abandoning. Like you're not leaving me and you're not getting into my stuff.”
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“Okay, let's see what this is really about. But that ain't gonna happen if first there isn't that sense that you're with me, you're seeing me, you're getting me, you're really wanting to know me, you care about that I'm having these feelings, and you're letting me have these feelings. And they work that out in different ways. It's sort of interesting because force that's leads, they're going to put those feelings out right away and see what other person does. The two and three are more cagey. I don't necessarily trust that you will be with my feelings or see me. But if I perceive that you do see me and get me and see that I'm struggling and you're making that okay.”
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“And again, it's kind of a non negotiable eight, nine and one. You know, if I don't feel you're respecting me, the deal's off. I'm done with you. Nines might be nice about it. It's a namaste with a certain Anglo-Saxon phrase that follows it. But, you know, that I've written you off. You don't respect me. But it's also true that when they're really angry with somebody, they punish people by not respecting them. Two, three, and four Want to be seen, known, and validated. You see me, you get me. You're validating, you're okaying with my feelings All those types may later on want to sort things out.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's it. So if you study your partner as what they do as their gift to you when you're having trouble, see if you can bring some of that to them. That's one thing. The other thing is that By those triads, as you were asking me, each triad meaning the belly oriented types, the heart oriented types, they're looking for certain things from their relationship. For the eight, nine, and one, they're looking for respect. They're looking for a field of respect. So if you look at the 8, 9, and 1, even if they're troubled, even if they're having a terrible time, they can feel if you're there in a way that honors their integrity, their autonomy, who they are. You're with them respecting them and who and what they are, even in the midst of their difficulty, and they will pick that up. Because again, at their best, that's what they do.”
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“Yes, now I may bring also the gift of what I can do from my type, but I don't have to think about that. I just do that very automatically. But if I do that in the context of what that person is seeking, that reminds them of them at their best, which helps them find their center. So my eight friend would be really fiercely there with me, would be so there, would be inviting me to talk about what I was feeling, would let me know that they're strong enough, they can take it. Let me know, right? And that kind of bid for realness. That's what they want. They want to know, I'm in the trenches with them. I'm with them. I'm not feeling their feelings for them, but I get it and I'm there and I care, right?”
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“It's kind of a two parter, and there's general principles I could give us in the timeframe we have. People when they're having difficulties are always hoping that someone will show up for them in the way they would for us when they're best. For example, if I'm in relationship with a nine. When I think about my nine beloved or my nine friend, Do they do that's so helpful to me when they're at their best? They're just there. They're not laying trips on me. They're not putting an agenda on me. They're not trying to fix me. They're just there in a steady, kind, understanding way. And in that, I can kind of find my feet and get back into orientation again.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. So it gives, I think, gives a lot of couples language to talk about what's going on with them. It helps them see where they align on values and where they see things differently. And so when I'm counseling couples that really are committed to working things out with each other, I'm always saying, okay, here's where you guys are different. How can you turn that into a benefit where you're kind of coaching and helping each other with something that's your strength, but you're also receiving the strength and the wisdom of your partner who has a different set of values. We get into that talking about just the Enneagram types, but there are all kind of other elements of that. We haven't talked about the subtypes or the instincts as another. You could do a whole.”
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“That you've been looking at yourself, you know yourself, you know your guts. You have some awareness of your strengths and weaknesses and you've done some psychological or some spiritual work so that you are able to engage meaningfully in conversations about these things should problems come up. And will problems come up? Yes, they will.”
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“The higher side of any of them, somebody who's done some psychological work is going to be more of a delightful person to live with. And I would add, if you want to be with such a person, make sure you're ready.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure, one thing that Don and I always used to say people would ask us questions like which type should I be with? I'm this type? What would be a good type for me? And Don's funny answer was always healthy. Get a healthy type.”
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“They weren't seeing the bigger picture. They weren't seeing the implications. They were not hearing that waterfall that they were headed toward. They weren't reading the signals. They didn't want to because they were getting excited about approaching the goals that they had. That's a really practical example, and I think a pretty understandable one. So when you bring in that view, when I work with a group like that, I wouldn't necessarily say you got to hire a certain type that may or may not be practical, but we'd look at the group and say, who in this group can play that role? Which one of you could reasonably, and then they have an interest in creative discussion about it. So when I use it in organizations, I'm not using it going around typing people because a lot of times people just get obnoxious with that. They use it to make fun of colleagues and everything. That's not helpful. But I use it to help them.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, just making sure that the right things happen. Willing to make sacrifices to have that occur. The four, five, and nine are the withdrawn style, but in business I call them strategic Longview because they're the people who are really quiet at the meeting and sometimes have something to say at the end. But their style is to take in all the bits of what's going on and get the gestalt of it and say something about the bigger picture. Now imagine banks in the midnots making money hand over fist. What were they not doing?”
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“You're going to succeed in those businesses. And so there was a lot of that energy, a predominance of those types in the group, but also just their overall values were in that direction. So they saw goal, went for it. There was a certain degree of what I call the sort of maintenance and standards types. And that energy was there, like maintaining things, making sure protocols were observed, making sure that, you know, things got connected and there was follow through and all that stuff. They had a certain degree of that. What they were almost always absent in was what I call strategic long view or what in our book we called the withdrawn style, which is they each corresponded to types. Three, seven, and eight is the go-getters, the assertive, the initiators, and then the”
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“Well, for example, practical example, I worked with a number of banks back in the mid to late knots around 2007 and so not surprisingly a lot of financial institutions were reaching out for help at that point because in their 113 wake-up call, they realized they were in big trouble. And a lot of times I would work with a group of directors of those institutions. And what we found on their team over and over was they had a lot of energy that another grouping that we used the Innogram, they had a lot of assertive energy, a lot of go-getter energy, which you would expect from somebody in that in finance and arbitrage and so forth. You kind of need to be that.”
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“Getting more of a sense in a group, even a country or any organization has certain type memes, if you like, dominant, and every group has certain type. Capacities or Ingredients somewhat lagging or in some cases even absent. And so you can look at a group that way and analyze what do we do well, what comes easily as a group, what's been our focus, what's kind of okay, and what really do we need to put a little loving attention into? Because in my experience, the stuff that you leave out comes back to bite you on the backside later on if you don't deal with it.”
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“Well, you know, people use it a lot of different ways. I've used it in a few particular modalities. There's things I think it's good for and things it's not good for to go back to one of your earlier questions. My friend and colleague Catherine Bell lives out in Calgary and she's been using an organization's a great bit. I have other colleagues here who have been doing so. I find that it's especially good for executive coaching and leadership development and kind of the formation and of qualities that are needed for people to be effective in any kind of leadership role in organizations. And I also find it very good for team building. And when I'm using it for teams, I'm not necessarily focusing on everybody, typing everybody in the room.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. So I am always Saying that if we're going to be skillful in human communication and working with people, we need to develop two other languages. We might kind of, usually people are really good at one and kind of okay at another and one they just don't know that language. So you're going to be good at this. You can be logical and rational. You can inspire and reassure and bring positive vibes and you can be real and say what's really going on in you and invite that from others. And that doesn't, it sounds so easy and reasonable when you lay it out on paper, but actually doing it is not that common”
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“Oh, yeah, absolutely. We all are going to sort for what we value. And we're all going to look to certain kind of responses. Some types are looking for an emotional response. They're looking for some kind of visceral, real. Put your cards on the table get in the trenches with me. And so I'm looking for that. And my bias is that people respond that way are straight shooters. That's somebody I can work with. That's somebody I trust. Some types want to be positive and want to be inspired and want to be reassured and they want to reassure. And that's their gift and it's their bias. And some types don't want to get into positivity or emotions that want to be logical and reasonable. And so that's what my prejudices toward talking about things that way.”
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“And beyond that, I made other people march to the beat of my drum. But you see, I didn't see that about myself. But it represented, yeah, as a five, I needed that grounded, confident embodiment so that there was an outlet and an output for all this stuff I had figured out. So when I brought it in consciously, See, consciously is also acknowledging the shadow part of it. But they suggest paths of development again. And so that's the really short version of it. You could do a big study of those inner lines, but some teachers say they're not real. They don't matter. I think if you take them out, you don't have the Enneagram. You just have, again, a tic-tac-toe board of nine descriptions, which won't get you too far.”
2020-09-01 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · #91 Russ Hudson: The Pursuit of Presence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that direction, I tend to be more blind to. But I can be really, in the low side of it, the acting advocate, I can be real bossy. I can be real controlling. If there's a party going on, I'm going to decide what the music is or I'm not going to that party. I'm not going to listen to somebody else's terrible mix unless I really trust them. Now I'm better at that than I used to be. But when I was a younger guy, forget about it. Very dominating. If you guys don't want to do what I want to do, I'll go do it on my own. But I didn't see that about myself.”
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“Contract. I can't withdraw anymore. I'm sort of fiving out, if you see what I mean. So the psyche automatically starts to compensate by bringing the opposite, which is the seven is to suddenly go out, explore things, do this, do that. I used to say I could tell how overstressed I am by how many books I have stacked on my nightstand. Because instead of reading one, I've started six. And that's more like a seven in stress. So it's not like I become a seven, but the seven represents a reaction to me overdoing my fiveness and a necessary reaction. But it's very different thing when I'm consciously invoking the good quality of seven as a balance to my own type. The other direction would be for me is if I would be eight.”
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“They both are ingredients that can be helpful because they tend to be ingredients that get dropped when we're overly focused on our core point, when we're too identified, too stuck in the fixated pattern of our own type, we're not conscious of the importance of these other two directions. So they're sort of like skeleton keys. They're magic. So when we're not particularly present, these are so important to us, we act them out in different situations in life. Some more generally, some our loved ones are going to get. So for example, I'll use my example again. I'm a five when I am under stress. One of the directions is to seven. If you look on the Enneagram symbol, there's a line between five and seven. What that means is I can't focus. I can't.”
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“Stress arrows are the internal lines. If you look at the Enneagram symbol, it's got a circle, but each of the nine points has two internal lines connected to it. Now, one of the common misunderstandings is, and it came out of one of the, let's say, lineages of transmission in the early days of the Enneagram is that one of those directions is good and one of them is bad. Well, it's not like that.”
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“I think because As we're getting started in life We're sort of eliminating things that don't get what we need and we're putting our eggs in the baskets that seem to provide. The best means for us to get what we're looking for. And so we narrow our focus. We're trying to figure out who we are when we're adolescents to teenagers. We're trying things on and eliminating things. So we're zeroing in on something. But having zeroed in on it and it producing whatever result it does in the latter part of life, we can relax a little bit and say, okay, what else? A lot of the people that I end up working with who are in mid or later life, that's it. Like I did X, Y, and Z and now I'm feeling like what are these chapters about other than playing golf or something?”
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“Exactly. You get your people respond, you get taken care of by emphasizing some part of your type, the range of your type. You get older, usually in midlife. Some people in their 30s, some people in their 40s, some people in their 50s, you start to explore the other wing again. Like, well, here's this part I kind of decided my type I didn't use. It's like opening up some rooms in your home that you closed off. Oh, yeah, there's some old stuff in here. It's kind of interesting. And you start to find this part of the cool thing about midlife and going into your later years is you start to find these other parts of you that you didn't necessarily develop in the first part of your life.”
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“Wings are just the idea that whatever your annagram type, the two types on either side of your type on the circle represent tendencies or variations on the theme. So for example as a point five, my wings could be four because going around the circles four, five, six, so my wings could be four or six, meaning as five I lean towards the fore side of that or I lean toward the sixth side of it. Now I think the wings are a little more flexible and I used to talk about this with my friend Richard Rohr who some of you may know. We both felt that people in childhood figure out one of those angles gets my needs met better than the other one.”
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“Is a step into who you are. To start to feel just that question alive, then the shame becomes more of a fire that's going to carry me toward the truth that will set me free. And so everything that we're looking at is workable. And that's why we learn it. There's no point just saying, here's what's wrong with you. We already think there's so many things wrong with us. This is how the enagram takes us from what seems to be malfunctioning in us and connects it with what is most beautiful in us. That's, I think, the magic of it.”
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“Exactly. Narcissism, if we look at it this way, is a pretty normal human thing. And if we're going to work with this stuff, it needs to stop being a dirty word. We need to sort of acknowledge everybody has some. But to what degree is it running my life? And what is it defending me against? People are more narcissistic, have big wounds and heartbreak around their lovability, their value, their sense of worth. And so they need to create an inflation as a defense against that. So when you're looking at this, this underlying shame and hurt, the shame actually is the recognition, if I can be present with it, it's the recognition that I am aware that I'm being my truth. I'm aware that I'm not who I am. And the first step I always tell my students is acknowledging that you don't know who you are.”
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“Being able to learn to be with our brokenheartedness and not be into some kind of narrative or story about it, like it's some proof there's something wrong with me. I'm not lovable. I'm a flop. I'm boring. I'm not sexy, whatever. We have all kinds of negative narratives that can come out of that. On the other hand, the defense against it is narcissistic grandiosity. I'm more loving than anyone without my help, everybody in my life will fall to pieces. Well, that's kind of grandiose. I'm the only one who knows what to do in this company. I can make things happen. I'm going to a little grandiose. I'm the most talented person around. Maybe. I'm deeper and more profound than anyone I know. Really? How do you know that? That's a rather narcissistic view of yourself.”
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“Of the challenge you're waking up is being able to be with our brokenheartedness. And my gosh, everybody else. But it's a weird thing. You know, we're so afraid of it, yet it's one of the main ways we human beings connect. We can acknowledge each other's hurt and the difficulties and how despite the difficulties we've been through, somehow we're both still here. That's kind of remarkable. So there's a sense of”
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“Virginia Satir, who said that anxiety is excitement without breathing. So they're all workable. But again, the five, six, and seven tend to have more issues with anxiety. The turning thoughts, the restlessness, and so forth. Sometimes people say, I'm not sure if I'm benign or a five. I said, do you fall asleep easily or is it hard for you to sleep? Did your mind keep turning and you can't stop it or are you able to just chill out? That's one distinction. Whereas the 8, 9, and 1 have more issues with anger and the expression of anger and finding out how to be with anger. The two, three, and four are about, we talk about shame. We also talk about hurt, brokenheartedness. If you got an ego, you got some brokenheartedness.”
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“This restless quality is the symptom of anxiety and the mind turning. But anxiety, when we feel it, again, it's an energy in the body. It feels like Battery acid. It's kind of acrid Energized and a little electrical feeling. When we presence anxiety. And we're with it in the body, with the heart, with the mind, to whatever degree we can, it transmutes into awakeness, into paying attention. Because when we're scared, we're not sleepy. We're not out of it. Our attention may be misdirected But we're paying attention. If you hear a bump in the middle of the night, you're suddenly not sleepy. You know, you're suddenly, you're activated. So when you can relax the tense reactive part of that, when you can breathe through the anxiety It becomes awareness, becomes lucidity. I think it was.”
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“Yeah, fear could be, you know, you see something dangerous, somebody's approaching you with a weapon in their hand. Fear is just suddenly adrenaline pumps through your system and activates your arms and legs to move and groove you toward running away or fighting back or freezing. Fear is fight, flight, or freeze. However, when we don't process fear, it becomes this backlog of sort of jitters and unease and not being able to sink into ourselves. And it keeps our mind turning and turning and turning. You know, I noticed a lot of people as we're having this conversation, we're in the midst of this COVID experience across the planet. And a lot of people are having anxiety. Needless to say. And so what's a manifestation? Sleeplessness. A lot of people having trouble getting to sleep at night.”
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“Anxiety, its deeper root. I was looking for a long time to find the right word, and I use this for the so-called passion of 0.6. Each type has a particular, quote, passion, but we don't mean like being passionate. It means a form of suffering. And I couldn't find a good English word, so I turned to German. And the best word is angst. Which is not just anxiety, but the suffering of anxiety, the sort of twisted, anguished feeling. Anxiety is, you know, unprocessed fear.”
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“Kind of physiological paces to release trauma, but trauma will usually come accompanied with really big emotional energies. It doesn't always have to be at the level of trauma, but we learn from that study that that's how you can work with these things. So just getting in touch with the energy of it, moving, expressing can all help to move anger through. When anger is presence, it transmutes into empowerment and confidence in the ability to take a stand, to have a voice, to speak your truth. People who can't be in touch with their anger have trouble with all of those things.”
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“Well, again, it comes down to this acquiring the capacity to be in the body. If I'm in the body with anger, anger has very particular sensations. It usually feels like heat for one thing. We may feel it in particular places. Sometimes it manifests when we're resisting it. It locks up our jaw, our necks get tense, our shoulders. There's a whole musculature around the resistance and holding of anger. But when we sort of let it go, it feels almost more liquid and it feels like liquid heat. And that heat can be useful in dissolving these rigid places where I've been holding anger. So there's a logic to how we unpack. Some people study trauma. I think of Peter Levine, looked at how animals are so good at just doing, going through their”
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“That's right. And there's a difference between This is where some people get scared of their emotions. There's a difference between feeling my emotion and acting it out. Many people think if they feel their anger, they're going to go around smash things or attack people. But that's not it. The people going around smashing things and attacking people are not in touch with their anger. It's going instantly into a behavior, and that's how they've learned to control it. But that's not the same as being with it.”
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“Do and it transmutes into an ingredient we actually need. So anger, if we're present with anger, it only lasts a few seconds. When we're not present with anger, it can last our whole life.”
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“But in the course of losing that grounding, our heart goes into reaction and our nervous system goes into reaction. And so we talk about these as kind of emotional instinctual energies that are there in all ego states. So there's always some degree of anger or rage. And the way we look at this too is that if you dig into particular psychological issues, you will sooner or later hit a layer that's just pure emotional energy, that what's really there underneath whatever the story is, it's just a lot of anger that didn't have an outlet. And we talk about also how each of these emotions is workable. It's not bad or wrong. But again, if we bring that three-centered presence and kindness to it, it finishes its job. It does whatever it was there to do.”
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“Right. The idea is that when we start in the course of ego development in childhood to lose the felt sense of what we are, which must happen. It happens, right? Just for some reason, we go through these developmental stages and that's part of it.”
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“Whatever it is that they're exploring. So they try this, they try that, they try that, but you can feel the kind of frustration that I'm looking for something. I'm trying to find out who I'm supposed to be when I grow up, right? But the point of matter is that that mental activity, like in the sixth and the five, is obscuring the freedom and the spaciousness that is my nature.”
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“We will be dissatisfied by what looks like freedom to us, which on the ego is having more options, having more choices, being able to do whatever I want, which is I call that lovingly my inner two year old. But real freedom, as one of my teachers used to say, is no longer being ruled by an inner two-year-old. It's another thing. And look at these figures who found it. They didn't come out and just indulge themselves. pivotal figures for their cultures. So finding that inner freedom, that positivity becomes a source of inspiration. When we lose it, then we're just trying to find what's interesting, keep our options open, do this, do that. And the danger for sevens is that they scatter themselves. They're often brilliant, talented people, but they don't, they lose patience with themselves before they get to the gold of”
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“Yes. And exactly. And so people sometimes discover these deeper aspects. Sri Arabindo in India, when the great saints of the last couple centuries of Indian religion, he also came to his realization while he was imprisoned for sedition against the British government. So, you know. What we're saying here doesn't mean that it's okay that people are suffering or imprisoned. That's not what I mean, but that”
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“Yeah, I was in South Africa years ago. I used to go there and teach pretty regularly and God willing and health permitting I go there again sometime, a beautiful country, great people. But I was at Robin Island and went and visited the prison cell of Nelson Mand And it was really small and very simple, very primitive, and just thinking of him in there for years. But it was in there that his vision of how to save South Africa and end apartheid came to him. And if you read his writings, it was there when he didn't have the ego's idea of freedom. He found his inner freedom. Now we would want him to have the outer kind too. But the cool thing about the inner kind is you can't take that away from somebody.”
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