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Russ Hudson

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“Check things out, they read, they study, they learn about a lot of things. If something grabs their attention, they check it out. And that's a cool thing. Not only that, but they are the ones who bring hope. They bring positivity. When bad things are happening, they rise to the occasion and show people that, you know, don't give up. We can still do this. They keep the lights on. And so they're the bringers of that positivity. When they lose their. Oh, the other big thing here didn't say is that openness is also the experience of freedom, but inner freedom. It's freedom not as the ego understands it. It's not that I have freedom. It's that my nature is freedom In my soul, I am free. It's funny how many people discovered that in prison.”
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“The enthusiast, right? And so there's a kind of enthusiastic, positive energy, curiosity, willingness to try things, try new food, try new experiences, travel experience this world while we're here. And that openness also brings a sense of appreciation. That openness experience brings a kind of lightness of heart and makes us feel positive. But not a positivity that's an avoidance of difficulty or pain. It's the positivity that's there for us when we're having difficulty and pain. It doesn't flee because we're having difficulty. It's the spirit in us that stays there even when we're having a terrible time. When sevens are in their power, they're the most exploratory, adventurous people.”
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“It doesn't matter if I'm here. Three is self deception. I am the ego and what the ego wants is what's important and what's going to fulfill me wrong. But we have to convince ourselves to keep going with a lot of this stuff. And then six is you named it self-sabotage. How I keep my life off kilter so that there isn't the space to consider that there might be anything else going on here. So anyway, you get the idea of that being kind of anxious. Sixes are one of the types that sometimes thinks they're fours because when they're caught in their stuff, they have a lot of emotions and they will really low self-concept so they can think their fours seven. Is our last stop on the train seven is also about the head center. So we saw that clarity of the five, the awakeness of the six. Seven is the openness of mind.”
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“Yes. Don used to say, and I like this, that the three anchors of the difficult parts of the ego can be found in the nine, the three, and the six that are on the central triangle. Self-forgetting is the nine, just forgetting to be present here.”
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“And that hyperthinking is driven by anxiety. The anxiety then is not what my focus is. My focus is on my thoughts that are generated by the anxiety. But now life isn't to be lived or enjoyed. It's to be handled. And so I'm like, in my mind forever putting out fires, fixing problems, dealing with life rather than living. And then the stress of that can get really wearying and I can get impatient with myself and others and really kind of into a downward spiral where just I feel like nothing I do is ever good enough and that I'm like in a pit of sand that no matter what I do, it just keeps getting worse.”
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“And I have a duty to uphold something and to be aware. And on my watch, I'm going to do my best to make sure these things get taken care of. And I'll use my mind to do that. And so there's a kind of devoted quality, a beautiful sense of service in sixes that I find very lovely. Now, when we lose presence, we lose that sense of alertness, awakeness. It's an interesting thing too. That alertness when it's present is also steadying. We feel more confident, courageous, steady. It stabilizes us somehow. When we lose it, the awareness turns into a kind of hypervigilance. We're like deer that just heard a sound. Like, what was that? What was that? What's going on? What's happening next? When's this pandemic going to be over? What's happening here, right? And so our minds now get activated and we start to hyperthink”
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“We can gather our attention and notice what's going on And that serves them in paying attention to what's going on in their life with their families, with their loved ones, with their company, et cetera. And six is often we'll get this heart feeling of being entrusted with something. I'm on my watch now. Yeah, I'm in the night watch, right? A little for you Game of Thrones fans.”
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“The loyalist is, I also like to call this type the troubleshooter because a troubleshooter is somebody who's anticipating problems and looking down the road and figuring out what could go wrong and then doing the necessary steps to make sure that those bad things don't happen. Or perhaps they're also looking at problems that have happened and considering alternative things to do to create safety. And that's what sixes do. Sixes are just as much thinkers as fives. They're very analytical. They think about a lot of things, but they're more overtly feeling than fives are. They're more openly emotional. They respond more to people's emotions. That being said, what is their gift? The gift of the six is the quality of alertness and awakeness and paying attention. Ability to pay attention, like how cool that we can be mindful”
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“Exactly. Yeah, it's like I'm willing to do it, but the sense of the five starts to be that more than a little will probably burn me out, deplete me, be too much. And so depending on some variations within the type, which that's another whole topic. My capacity for being with people is perceived as limited. So then that can lead me to a lot of isolation and the isolation into weird thoughts and the way we go. One of the types that when we are having problems, they actually look like mental problems. Some of the types, they're still running a company or a country and they got a lot of problems, but fives look like they got problems. So six, we call this type originally the loyalist, although not when we don't call that in Ireland.”
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“Like, oh, there's a truck, and there's a plane. It's like I'm constantly trying to establish what's here and what isn't, what's real and what isn't. That can lead to certain kinds of expertise, but can also really lead me down a rabbit hole of obsessive thinking. And the need for solitude becomes the avoidance of human contact. So it's not true that fives don't want any human contact, but they want to be in control of the duration and amount of it.”
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“without getting freaked out. And that's necessary for us to grow up. And certainly if we're going to get any freedom from our personality pattern. So when fives are not so present, their challenge area is that they're trying to have that knowing and discerning of truth and untruth and their solitude, but without the basis of them. What happens then is my mind is constantly working trying to figure things out. What's going on here? What is this? What's that? What's that? You'll see sometimes little kids who are five going around naming everything.”
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“By the activities of life, not disturbed by other people. So that solitude is kind of like I can hear myself think. So those are really important. And in a healthy five, not only are those qualities there, but they're also in service of the heart. It's kind of a Buddhist view here. The awareness and the realization, the enlightenment about what's true and isn't is helping me see what's needed and help people help the world. It's in service of the heart, in service of compassion. The other big element here is also as you see what's real, you're also seeing what you've believed that isn't real. So it's the part of us that can liberate us from stuff we used to believe that we now see, well, okay, that was like training wheels. It was good at the time, but I don't really need that now. And so we can let go of concepts and beliefs and ideas.”
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“to have a kind of clarity a clarity of thought of communication of perception and I would add that another big component here is that when we find our true mind our deeper mind it brings with it a sense of solitude solitude is a kind of inner quiet that's kind of not disturbed”
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“That's right, the investigator. Another popular name is the observer, which is fair enough, but I think it muddies the water a little bit because nines are also good observers. Nines observe. But observing and investigating are kind of different. There's more of an aggression investigation. You're going to go find out. You're not just looking at the beautiful stone. You're turning it over and looking at what's under it or you're chipping off a piece and looking at what's inside. Investigators, the five and the five has to do with the capacity in human beings to come to realizations, to new awareness, to seeing new truth. And think of where we'd be if we didn't have that. We'd still be back in caves if we even found caves, right? So that capacity is enormous to come to.”
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“Because I know that what I lost has something to do with my heart, but I can't go to that deeper place without the presence. So what I see is all my reactions to the loss. My reaction to this ugly, crude, senseless world and that, or to myself and all the ways I feel I'm not being this truth of what I am. And so that reactivity kind of engulfs me. That it makes it very hard to have a good life. So we move on to the five, six, and seven, the head types have to do with being more or less connected with our presence in the head center.”
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“That's right. I don't often use examples, but I just was posting the other day about your fellow Canadian Joni Mitchell as a great example of an Enneagram 4 who has done exactly what I was talking about. That was her offering to the world. When we lose the presence, it's as though the mystery and the beauty fade and then the world seems barren, ugly, pedestrian, purposeless, dull, and so forth. Just as the three, there's no meaning. Why am I doing all this? The four is like, who am I? What am I? What is the point of all this? And there's a kind of existential despair about the loss of this depth and mystery and beauty. Everything seems ugly. I sometimes feel ugly. I've lost whatever it was that made me beautiful. And so there's a... The four in the fixated pattern gets caught up in emotional reactivity.”
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“Everything's filled with a kind of resonance and mystery and beauty. And fours are on the lookout for that. And when they're in their healthier manifestation, they're bringing that to other people. They're inviting people into that. They're creating a life of intimacy and beauty and richness. And they're reminding other people to come back to their depth and humanity.”
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“Okay, so four is that our heart brings Depth and intimacy. People always say they like intimacy, but when it actually starts to happen, sometimes get a little scared because intimacy is the experience of landing the depth of what we are beyond our personality. So if we're really identified with thinking that we're our personality, when we actually have a moment of intimacy in that moment, who am I? Who is my friend? What's actually here? The mystery deepens. But as the mystery deepens and we're actually moving closer to what we are beyond our personality, let's Everything gets more beautiful.”
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“Successful people are in great despair. Get into addiction, commit suicide, etc because it feels like such a ripoff to work so hard, achieve those goals, and you still feel empty inside. So the three is about that journey back to the heart being there in the midst of what we're doing in this world. So you can think of all these as a journey or a lesson as much as they are a type of person. If you are that type, it means that's your kind of personal myth. That's your life journey. That's your hero's journey, you could say. So the four, the one I was mentioning earlier that everybody seemed to want to be in North America, this is not true, by the way, in Asia. They don't want to be forests in Asia.”
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“And so threes at their best, they know that, they're finding, they're taking their amazing talents and skills, and boy, they really work to acquire those things, but those things are in service to stuff they care about. It's in service to what they love. And then in a way, what they're doing is like an act of love, you know, whatever it is, whether they're helping out their family or whether they're doing their career, whatever. And that's a gorgeous way to live. We lose the presence. The doing stays, but the sense of meaning fades. So we think that by getting stuff done, we'll get that sense of meaning. We think that by accomplishing that goal, then we're going to feel all happy about ourselves. But you don't need to go too far looking at the newspapers and magazines and blogs to see that many enormously”
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“Through the heart that we feel the connection between what we are beyond our personality and our actions in the world. And when that's happening, it's what, you know, if we're talking about this in the business world, what we call flow. It's about when you're in that state of flow, you're just with your heart, you're present, you're just doing what you do and you're loving it and you're not reviewing yourself or worried about what anybody else thinks about. You're just into it and doing it. And that's a hard thing. Our hearts get so lit up when we're able to do that”
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“That's right, get through the stuff and get to the goal. And threes are also thinkers. They can be very smart. They strategic. They like to have plans and lay things out and they like to be logical. All that being said, what's motivating them is from their heart because the heart is where we find meaning Meaning is not cognitive. You can argue endlessly in your head about what's meaningful, but if it doesn't land in your heart, you don't get it. Meaning, purpose. Big word for threes having a purpose. And it's weirdly the heart that connects our self as consciousness with our functional life.”
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“That's the helper. Yes, thank you for reminding me to put the name in. Yeah, so that's the helper. And you see why it's called that. The next point is three. We call this type the achiever. And three is having to do with the heart, although people are threes might not initially recognize themselves as heart types because threes are the doers of them all. They're doing stuff. They're active. They like to have things to do. They like to focus on getting things done. Get that checklist done.”
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“That's right. That's a moment of essence. That's a moment of a deeper. Aspect that the enagram is trying to get us back to. That's not weird or far out or these are real normal human experiences that make our life livable, but we forget how to get there. The point.”
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“Like, if, you know, I ride, I live here in New York City, I ride the subways, and sometimes, you know, without being, you know, in any way creepy, you can just be sitting on the subway or a bus and you just make that little eye contact with somebody for a second, just a little smile and a nod. And there's nothing that needs to be said. But in that moment, it's like two hearts said, howdy. And I'm a human and you're a human and we're on this journey. And there's something that can change your whole day if you have a moment like that”
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“Them, that's actually going to stop something they really need to do. So that heart intelligence is attuned. Now, when we are not present, that beautiful heart connection, we can't feel it, and the beautiful attunement, the intelligence of that gets blurry. So we're going out trying to do things. We get more impulsive if we are a two to trying to do things for people, whether they need it or want it. And the other side of it is we're trying to connect all the time, which blocks us from noticing the ways we already are connected.”
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“Could be a friend, but can be with animals. A lot of people have their pets and my gosh, you can sure have a heart connection with your pet. You can even have heart connection with nature, with the sky. You know, it's the way our heart kind of goes out into some kind of sense of communion. And it's also the part of our heart that wants to respond. Like when we see need, when we see hurt, when we see suffering, there's just natural. It takes a lot of conditioning to stop this part of a person. It can happen. But we naturally respond when we see someone in need. And that part of us is the two part. And it's intelligent. The heart is smart. It's not just having sentimental feelings. When it's liberated, our responses to people and their difficulties are intelligent. Like sometimes we might see someone crying and we get the heart wisdom, give them space. This person needs to cry. They haven't cried for years. If I go over and fuss over.”
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“Because it's all on my shoulders and I'm going to make sure things straighten up and fly right, at least in my world. And if I can affect beyond that, so much the better. So it's like being a warrior for goodness. But again, the ego in trying to do that tends to create even more problems for myself and others. I become kind of rigid, kind of testy, impatient sometimes, judgmental. not attractive traits and not things that I really want to be, but it's out of the ego trying to get someplace that is not really his province. Moving along, we come to the heart triad, which is two, three, and four. Two, the part of the heart that where we feel connected with others. And, you know, obviously with someone we are in relationship or love or could be family member.”
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“And it's hard to find language for this, but it's about goodness, feeling good, knowing there's goodness in me. So much of the... Difficult part of ego is that we feel not good, so much so that we even get defensive by trying to be badass, like we're trying to be bad, just as a defense against the despair of feeling the loss of goodness. So it's easy to look at the world and see, man, where is the goodness? And so the one out of presence can't feel or find that goodness in the same way. And so the world seems kind of corrupt, nasty, dishonest, mean spirited. And so the ego rises up and says, well, I got to set things straight. I got to be a straight arrow. And that natural alignment becomes a kind of physical tension.”
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“Feels threatening, so you just stay in that inner world. One is the reformer. I've also called one the educator. One is the part of us that really loves integrity. It's a kind of when we're in our body, we kind of naturally don't slouch. We're not like all crunched up. We kind of, when people are present, there's a beautiful alignment and expressiveness to the way people are. There's an elegance and a dignity to people who are more present. And that dignity and alignment is what the ones are generating and expressed behaviorally as integrity, honesty. There's a way that the ones then, when we're in that space, life feels more sacred. And I don't mean by that according to any particular religious point of view, although if you have a religious point of view, it would make it more real and immediate for you. But people have sacred experiences that aren't necessarily connected with any religious belief. So that beautiful part of the self is also about”
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“When nines are not so present, what we do is we disengage. We're still there at the meeting, but we're not there at the meeting. We're saying, I love you to our partner, but we're just saying it. And there's a way we've sort of withdrawn ourselves into an inner world that we then protect against the outer world. And that disengagement, and everybody does this to some degree. Nines are just the best at it. And it's something we learn to do in childhood to handle what was scarier or overwhelming. It's a great example. But when we're in there, it's costly in the long run to our relationships, to our work, and so forth. And so there's a way that nines don't really bring their gifts forward, even when they're brilliant and so talented. And so you can get into a place where people just wanting to connect with you.”
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“When we're present, we're grounded, and we feel at home in ourself. And as feeling at home in ourselves, our agitation settles. We feel peaceful. We feel ready for life. And we feel more, this is the weird thing. The more present we are in our body, the more we feel connected with everything. We feel connected with nature, with life. We feel more of the wholeness of everything that comes through our body. It's not a cognitive thing. So that's beautiful. And a lot of great things come out of it. People who are nines have that beautiful capacity to land and invite other people in for a landing. Nines also tend to be very creative type that always gets underestimated. A lot of great musicians and artists and writers are nines.”
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“So the nine next door neighbor, Don and I call this the peacemaker and each Enneagram teacher, each Enneagram teacher tends to have their own names for it. But I always encourage people, the names are just there to get you started. I always use the numbers because they're neutral. They don't say anything about the type good or bad and they don't highlight a particular quality at the expense of another. But Nine's Peacemaker is about.”
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“Ego does a substitute for the real thing, and so the substitute in the eight and the eight part of all of us is to the degree we don't feel that aliveness and energy and immediacy, we get tough and we harden ourselves and we resist and we also control. So we become our feelings. We don't want to cry. We control our lives in different ways. We control other people if we feel like they're going to get to us. And to the degree that we're disconnected from the eight gift, we're going to be some kind of a control freak. And that can go very far. So as I said, a person who is an eight is it isn't that they're not engaging the other eight types, but that's the main track they need to be aware of, that movement. That alive real sensitive empowerment and that kind of hardening oneself.”
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“And it's pretty easy to recognize kind of person. So the way I like to talk about is what's the gift here and what's the challenge or the difficulty? The gift of the eight is that when we're present and we're connected with what it's really about, we feel confident to answer your earlier question. We feel empowered. We feel not like we're powerful, but we're empowered. And the more we are with that, the more we are living life in immediacy and fullness and energy and we got it and we are decisive. We don't dilly-dally around. We're not timid. The downside of this is each type.”
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“So just diving in. A lot of times I like to start with eight and people want to know why don't you start with one? It's because there's a certain order to the way these are. They're not a random grab bag. Represent what we call a triad, and they represent the intelligence of the body. So you go through eight, nine, and one, you get lessons about embodiment, what that means. Eight, starting off with eight, we call this type the challenger.”
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“running and regurgitating the same nonsense over and over and over ninety eight percent of the time and I'm being kind. To think, to realize, to ponder, to not question as a position of skepticism, but question as to really be curious about something is not common. And those are attributes of being a little more present.”
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“When we are actually present, we're present with content. We're present with what's happening in our body. We're noticing our postures and how we're breathing. We're noticing what's in our emotions. We're noticing what's in our mind. And as we're noticing, again, it gives us options. In other words, instead of my mind just coming back to its obsessions and its fears and its paces it goes through every day. I used to say, can you imagine if we could, like in the matrix, plug something into the back of your head, but instead put a little TV screen on top of your head and along with our masks we're wearing these days, you put a little screen up there with two little speakers hanging down the side and everybody could see what I'm thinking. I think people would quickly realize no one's thinking. No one's thinking about anything. Our minds are unidle.”
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“Yeah, for example, if I'm really here in the moment with my body and breath and I need to think about what I'm going to do next week, I can be aware of myself in the here and now and present with the thinking process and planning of that. Otherwise, we start to think of presence as a trance, which it isn't. That's a common error that people make. And this is the experience side of it. We think of presence as a groovy place to hang out where life won't bug us anymore, right? That's the trance of point nine, for example, which is at the top of the engram for a reason.”
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“All those are indicators on these different fronts, and the more we're present, the more we are able to access these other resources. And the way we learn to do that is simply by bringing attention to those things. As soon as I bring attention to my breath, to my sensation, to the kind of luxurious feeling of really being here in this body, for example, just to use that one center, the more we tend to be present and we'll start to notice things that we were not noticing before. And that's the other sign is that the field of our attention deepens, gets crisper, and we notice all kinds of things that ordinarily we don't notice because our attention when we're not present is sort of welded to these preoccupations and patterns. And that's what we're looking at with the Enneagram.”
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“The short answer, yeah. Well, going back to the centers, the centers are a great way to sort of calibrate that. Am I with my breath? Can I sense my body here and now? That's one indicator. Am I identified with my emotional reactions? And by the way, being detached and shut down is a reaction? Or am I meeting my emotions with a fuller sense of heart? Is there any quiet in my mind or am I completely identified with that incessant inner dialogue?”
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“Kind of drops off precipitously. But the study suggests to those willing to look at the data that no, we stop being present around H five or six.”
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“Seeing what methods helped them because it's known as a cognitive disorder. When they did this study, they gave placebos, they gave drugs, they gave them different things to do, they did different kinds of therapy, but they had one group that practiced, they learned mindfulness. They learned Buddhist meditation, practice centering, presence, etc. What they discovered in doing these brain scans was something they did not expect was that the group that was practicing mindfulness had good results in terms of their OCD, but also that it seemed to reactivate what psychologists call neuroplasticity. Neuroplasticity is our brain's ability to rewire itself. Now it was thought for many, many years that there were limits to neuroplasticity, and that basically we were hugely To rewire in the first few years of our life.”
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“What a cool question! Yeah, there's well, there's some elements to it in this work that's a little different than maybe what they were finding in that study. And if I look at it more from a medical Or a physiological perspective. One thing that they were studying out in California a few years back at UCLA medical and some other places was the fact that What we're calling mindfulness or presence changes some things about the human brain, which isn't surprising to people who have explored it. But, you know, it's interesting that they actually were looking at this. They were doing real-time brain scans, and they were actually studying people with OCD, obsessive, compulsive disorder.”
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“Want somebody who said experience in how to do surgery and had medical training and so forth. And the Innagram, in a sense, we're going into the core motivations. So it goes very deep. It's not like Myers-Briggs or some of the others, which is no discs to those systems. It's just that the integrum is looking at a deeper layer of human motivation. So it opens up a lot more for people. So I'm just, I suppose I'm just advocating for the fact that we need to be humble and patient in learning it because it takes a long time.”
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“Right, right. Yeah. And just there's a thing here that it does reveal to me is that. Is true that everybody has access, everybody has a point of view, everybody has some kind of truth. But sometimes in that conversation, what drops out is the value of experience. There are people with more experience, and some things like working with people's psyche, you kind of want somebody to have a little more experience. I don't want to go and get brain surgery from someone who's just read a couple of medical books.”
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“Yeah, and that's the thing. I have a friend named Suzanne Steel who co-wrote a book called The Road Back to You with a man named Ian Cron. Their book is hugely popular. It's just out recently. And it's particularly popular with evangelical Christians who are the new group that's just flooding into awareness of this. And it's understandable. I think a lot of Christians are seeking a deeper, more mystical relationship with their faith stands to reason. The Enneagram has some of its roots in Christianity, so that would be a natural. But Suzanne was talking with me and she asked me this great question. And just to paraphrase it, she's saying, how do we old timers hold the enthusiasm and energy of all these new people when a lot of that enthusiasm is based on an assumed knowledge?”
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“Yes, yes. Or I suffered in my childhood. Well, that's everybody. You know, so there's a way that we can use it to actually. It gets getting to us. There's a way we can prevent it from actually doing its magic. We can use the knowledge to strengthen our ego defenses rather than to work through them. And that's a common problem, particularly now that so many people are learning about it quickly online from people who never studied or trained in it, but who read a book or two and learned the basics. The danger of the Innogram is that if you know even a little bit about it, it seems like magic. Like, how did you know that? How did you know that about me? So you can seem like a wise guru and you've just read a couple of books. But in point of fact, to actually be able to use this in service to ourselves and others requires a long apprenticeship and acquiring those capacities, skills I talked about.”
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“So sometimes a classic example here in North America is that a lot of people read this or learn it and they instantly assume they're a four. I'm a four because I have deep feelings and, well, guess what? Everybody has deep feelings. And I'm creative. Well, guess what? Everybody's creative. And, you know, there's a lot of factors.”
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“And it's just also presuming that I know that truth, which I may or may not. I find that people identify with a concept and sometimes it's not even their correct Enneagram type”
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