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Ryan Graves

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“Can't speak for everyone, but at least the way I interpret it, you know, or at least I feel like I interpret my way here. My job is, I feel like my role is just to be curious about the environment in a manner that allows us to understand as much as possible. I think that the human mind, whether it's just the mass inside our skull or whether there's some type of quantum interactions going on, are minded, has incredible ability to output new information in a universe that is somewhat stale of information, right? Our minds are in somewhat unique in that we can imagine and perceive things that could never ever have possibly naturally occurred and yet we can make it happen. We can instantiate that with enough belief that it's true and it can happen. And so for me, I feel like I just need to encourage that, to encourage, you know,”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Death is a requirement for evolution and whether evolution allows us to see objective reality or not, it still gives you some interesting thoughts about perspectives of death, especially considering its biological necessity as far as evolution is concerned.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll be honest, I never really kind of sat down to think about the mortality of it afterwards. I feel like I kind of signed a check at the beginning, and it was my job to perform as well as I could. And if something happened in that, then I better damn well be sure I would do my best at the time than so I maybe didn't personally reflect on it as much as one would think, you know, because once you get in that machine, it doesn't give you a lot of time to sit back and philosophize on your current situation. And the same just like we weren't seeing these objects off the coast, we weren't necessarily examining them every day, right? We'd put them into that bucket because it wasn't something that was going to kill us right away. And thinking about death when you're so close to it all the time would be debilitating.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was willing to accept an oversized amount of risk, I'll say, when I was younger as an aviator. Not in the jet, but just that was my life. You know, I felt like I was going to live forever. And going out in the war, you know, strangely didn't really change that because as an aviator, again, we're riding up high on our horse up there. There were times when I was in situations that could have resulted in death from flying or from emergency in the aircraft.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a dichotomy. My desire for the fastness of technology and experience compared with the most basic baseline that we have.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's home for me. So, you know, I moved back up to the Boston area, and my wife and I had an idea after moving about eight or nine times in the Navy. What we wanted just generally. And it was all really about the land and not about the house. We just wanted privacy and to be nearby. And so we ended up finding a lot of land, you know, a parcel of land. We put a house on it. And it provides me with a sense of peace that I think I can only get when I'm in nature, a sense of clarity that helps me think, helps me relax. Maybe it's a relaxing that helps me think. I don't know. But being surrounded by nature and birds and animals for me has always allowed me to feel most in touch with my own thoughts in a sense. It just provides clarity. And so this little sanctuary, you could say I've built, allows me to, you know, interface via Firo line at my house, but also feel like I'm a million miles away sometimes, which is the best of both worlds.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“At least I had anxiety when I got out because it was, I was so used to being highly involved in something that, um, That just was all involved with that when I got out, I didn't know how to fill that space essentially. And while I wouldn't say it was overly traumatic experience, I think it's one that's not accounted for enough that people that are getting out, you know, so I would encourage them to take it serious and actually think about it and respect the change because it is a big one.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, I have one. And it's tough for me because I've spent most of my life beating motions and high emotional responses out of my system, right? Because that's what flying is, right? It's keeping a steady line and doing what you need to do. In fact, there's been studies that show reduced adrenaline production inviter pilots for a number of years after they get out. But getting out of the Navy was difficult for me. And I wasn't expecting it to be. A lot of bravado and machuism, of course, in the military, especially in fighter community. And we all have our plans made up to get out. And none of it really accounts for any type of mental health or anything like that. It's all very much. Where am I going to get my paycheck from? Where am I going to move to? And whether it's the Navy or just individuals, truly understanding the difference that makes. And when I got out, it was difficult for me. I think a lot of guys in that job, when they get out, they almost.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would suggest that I've been pretty firm ground for most of my life. I haven't had too many Personal tragedies, I'll say, that have really defined me, certainly none that I would think are outside the norm.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Suggest that they don't fear looking foolish I spent a large portion of my life Considering the laughter or the comments at my statements as indication that I shouldn't pursue that. So I kind of woke up to that fact a bit later, but I would encourage that people trust in themselves and trust in the things that they care about. It doesn't matter if they're good at it. All that matters is that they find something that they can apply love and care to, and they will grow better at it and they'll most likely make the world better because of it.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Certainly. And that person didn't come out in his $100 million jet because I pissed him off. It's not an emotional response. We're both there. Maybe because we chose to be in some sense, but at the behest of someone else and outside of our control and power. And so in a sense for me, it's almost a challenge that we've engaged upon agreeably, but that's such a romantic version that I have the luxury to have being high in my castle in the jet up there, not on the ground. So I understand that it's a bit more romantic than perhaps. Someone on the ground experiencing all the horrors down there because everything looks very small from above.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes At the end of the day, especially, I would say in aviation, tactical aviation, there's almost a kinship with your enemies in a sense because you know that in a sense, right? You know what they've been through. You know what training they've been through. You know where they've failed. And you know what type of person they are because it's a very unique person that does that job and usually can spot them.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we're always taking from someone else at this point. And so as someone that's been in combat and very high above it, I'll say, where I didn't feel like I was in particular danger. I rationalized it and I made my wife do it, knowing that there were people on the other side that were going to die that were on our side than not. So it was always a very human thing. It was never, um, Reaction, emotional reaction of any sense.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I had never had any hate or discontent when I was doing my job, I'll say. But I was also never in a true life for death. Situation where they were going to kill me if I didn't kill them. But I think that environment isn't one born out of hate, being in that type of scenario. In a sense, it's how to be alive, right? I mean, that's our natural state is fighting for our survival in a sense. And so I think there's great power and strength and clarity perhaps in that. And it's not always borne out of hate, but out of necessity. And we can't always control that. And I think as we focus on ourselves so much We only dance on that pinhead when we find ourselves fighting.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so. I think it is. Until we move past resource limitations. There's always going to be at least that one particular cause of conflict. And then we can also consider all our psychological Although hopefully we have enough things in place to stop that from rising to the level of war. But we have our own biology, our own psychology and evolution to combat. But there are pragmatic reasons to exert violence sometimes, unfortunately. One of those cases could be resource limitations. And so your question was, do I think they'll always be war in this world? My unfortunate answer is perhaps yes, but once there's more than one world, then we're less resource constrained, then perhaps it'll be a valve of sorts for that.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I don't think Putin was expecting to be in that engagement quite as long as he has, of course. But it can show you how you can get caught up. If land wars turn into an inescapable quagmire each time due to the complications around the society's ability to access interesting tools.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Shows you how complicated the worst space in the future is going to be, you know, evading a land like that where people have that many different types of resources. It can absolutely change warfare.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is more widespread, right? Like, what if we were creating our own drones and they were being used against us? Would we want to have some type of kill switch or something like that, right? So what I think governments are going to have to consider like all these tools that are going to be easily available to just any person could be turned into a tool of war? How do we stop that from being turned against us, you know, especially as we look at 10 years from now when we have a large number of autonomous UAVs delivering packages and doing everything else over our country and any one of those could be potentially a weapon if we don't have the proper security?”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe not unique, but it's just been absolutely incredible to see the footage. You know, I mean, we're watching war on Twitter, you know, essentially, and to see these aircraft flying down low, spitting flares out, getting shot down, it's incredible to see this happening live for everyone to see. So that's just kind of a quick meta comment. But as far as the actual, you know, I think these small form factor UAVs where they're just like strapping weapon to it and flying over and trying to drop it at the right time or any of this, these type of commercial applications of technology into this ad hoc warfare area is incredibly interesting because it shows how useful that technology can be outside of the military, right? Especially like DJI, right? Like there's obviously a lot of technology in there as being leveraged for other capabilities within PLC military, or at least we would assume. What happens if”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is. And you approached it from the angle of more autonomy enables a wider. Know swath of destruction. And that's where we get back into who's making the decisions based off of this. And my hope, again, would be that we would have the leadership that would use these things when needed in the precise way as possible to minimize that. And I've seen that firsthand. I've seen that in country. I've seen not blue forces, but I've seen truck bombs go off on school buses, you know, driving around Afghanistan while escorting convoys. And it wasn't easy then. And I'm sure it's not any easier now, especially after what you've just seen.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So that's a fear, right? You're viewing it from a we can cover more perspective, which is fair. And a lot of, I don't approach it from that topic. At least I don't think of it that way, at least morally. I think that with the advancement of warfare, assuming we have a just and moral leadership, if that's the case, then I am an advocate for increased autonomy and technology because I see it as an ability to be more precise. And if we trust the moral leadership of our Government, then we would want to be as precise as possible in order to mitigate effects that we don't want. I know that's not a satisfying answer, and it leaves us maybe with bad feelings”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I approach it from the position that Human should be. From the highest level possible, right? So mission objective based targeting. And so if, just for an example, if there's a building here and I want that building to go away, that's the message I want to communicate. I don't want to tell certain vehicles to be in a certain spot. I don't want to know how much fuel they have. I don't even want to know what capabilities they have necessarily. I just want to know that I have the ability to select from a cloud of capabilities and the right assets are going to arrive such that they deal with the contingencies around the target such as protection systems or EW and then can prosecute the target to the high enough probability of satisfaction that's needed by the mission.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Additionally, more distribution of assets and capability. So imagine being able to digitally model your weapon or your system or your entire tactical engagement or scenario or allow machine learning to help you better understand the technology that you need to build in order to defeat a particular scenario, right? And I'm talking hardware now, not just a tactic itself. And being able to use large amounts of simulation and machine learning to build individual assets that are small boutique using advanced manufacturing techniques for mission or for a particular battle, right? Instead of just having these large things against an enemy, you're building systems and technology for individual cases.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In order to make yourself, in order to take away the enemy's ability to try to predict what you're going to do to disrupt their technological progress cycles so that they don't have a clear target to aim at. And if you don't have a clear target to aim at, it's hard to hit it.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Randomness, you know, being able to. To not predict what the enemy is doing almost no matter what, because there's a level of randomness that's within the tactical envelope.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wonders and secrets and things that we can't imagine just simply because of timeframes that we live under and we think in. But if a planet has a single unit and it almost is as an entity itself at a certain level, right? If everything's working towards the same output, you know, I could almost imagine an intelligent species that approached us planet to planet instead of person to person because that's how they've evolved and they've assumed any intelligent species would understand that working together is better than not And so you know my heart tells me that at a certain point you know love and caring and the desire to work together is much more powerful than the technological progress at war would bring.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My intuition tells me that when two people like yourself and myself or anyone get together, often the output is greater than the individuals. And when we work together, we can typically do things that are more impressive and better than if a single person works alone. And now I know that war has driven technological progress, but perhaps there's other mechanisms that can do so. But regardless, I wonder, you know, if we truly I would imagine that same. Seem truth to be there that people working together, creatures working together is a good thing for society or its society as a whole. And if we consider that, as we imagine a society growing and expanding, in a sense, the ultimate output of a planet could only be achieved in some senses if everyone was working towards the same goal. And there might be...”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Especially when they're the ones holding the reins of power in such a communication would relinquish that power essentially to some degree”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I wonder if that is the underlying assumption. It's the one people always jump to that it's for to maintain secrecy of technology, and I assume that's part of it. I wonder if there's any other reasons that we would want to not talk about it. I imagine that such information would have a shock to the social economic system of any country, if not the world. And so I wonder if perhaps that was part of the concern as well, you know, how society can react to it. Maybe we're anti-fragile enough now with everything that's going on and with our communication networks that, you know, why not now? I don't know. But that's something I think about as well.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My assumptions, what did my heart tell me? My heart tells me something's going on, but I have no evidence for that. Maybe that's me wanting something to go on. Maybe that's a human feeling to want to know and my government's in control of what some strange unknown thing is.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say the next thing is horses, right? Or maybe fields, so manipulating or managing gravity, can we maneuver within fields in some manner that allows us to perhaps move propellantless or another manners, right? And so I think essentially having a deeper understanding of different fields and being able to interact with them, I think would be a potential avenue for travel, advanced travel, right? Propellantless travel. Can we quantum entangle gravity fields together and propeller ship via the gravity field of a planet, the mass of a planet, and a drive on a ship? There's all sorts of interesting things.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“GemNet is a quantum generative material, so it's the company I work for. We essentially are working on a couple of verticals. One of them is our quantum chemistry work. We're essentially, we're bridging the gap between essentially physics and chemistry. We're working on those problems and, again, implementing artificial intelligence machine learning into that process so that we can design those materials from the ground up. Additionally, we are what we consider a vertically integrated material science company, which means we can generate our own data. And so within the next quarter coming up, we are launching a satellite in the space that will have a fairly advanced hyperspectral sensor in there, which is intended to be the first launch that will help us detect different types of materials using our advanced knowledge of quantum chemistry, right? We're going to be leveraging that experience in order.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Process that we may not fully understand with perhaps a non human based intelligence in some sense. And so we may find patterns in the processes, right? How does our machine learning output, can we match behaviors with what we're observing with what maybe a machine learning algorithm with output, right? Can we try to classify the intelligence in that manner, perhaps? And so, you know, at GenMaz, we're looking at these materials. We're considering what these algorithms could have used for later on. Could we perhaps reverse the process and determine what a unique or anomalous material, what type of properties it potentially could have?”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think that's, you know, so if we think about what materials are made of, it's just a collection of atoms. But each one of those atoms has a lot of data associated with it. So if we want to kind of calculate how they interact with each other, it requires a massive amount of computational resources, so much so that it can't be done in a lot of cases with classical computers. And that's where quantum computers come in. Although we don't have a perfectly functioning quantum computer at this point, one of the things that we're working at at quantum general materials is to essentially bridge that gap between what classical computer can do as far as simulating materials and of course what a fully functioning quantum computer would mean for being able to design materials. And so having the ability to study matter at a very fundamental level and unleashing artificial intelligence and machine learning on that problem, I think is, in a sense, alien in a way that we're able to advance our science using, you know,”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think we're going to see the ability to manipulate matter like we used to manipulate information. I think that's whether that means being able to pop something on the table that didn't exist or to influence a chemical reaction somewhere, but being able to manipulate and treat matter as if it was information. And so being able to design specific materials, being able to move past a lot of the barriers that seem to limit our progress with things such as miniaturized fusion or even just fusion in general is, you know, a lot of it is matter-based, is material based, and our ability to not manipulate. We can only discover materials in a sense. And so I think that a complete mastery of physical reality would be one of the key traits of a very intelligent species.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do. I'm of the theory that we are not the only people out there. I think it would be a statistically silly comment to assume we are, although I get that we are the only data point that we currently have. Although I'm willing to jump over that fence and say that, yes, there most likely is intelligent life elsewhere. Although I'll concede that it is a possibility we are early or there could be limited or it could be in a manner that we don't recognize or can really understand I spend so much time thinking about how we anthropomorphize things on this UFO topic and we've done it to ourselves with media in a sense, right? We've trained ourselves what to think about, what we think is true or what this would be like. And by doing so, I think we're closing ourselves off to a lot of what the possibilities could be and the things that we could miss.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“View on reality has included things such as completely dismissing what the air crew are saying. And I think that is a fallacy to think that we have to take the human outside of that analysis. So those are the two things I disagree with.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, two parts to his approach. One, I commend him for all the good work and effort he put into it. I've seen him build some models and things of that nature. And so I think that's something that's absolutely needed in this environment. No one's asking anyone to believe anyone here, right? Trust but verify should certainly be the mantra. But where I have a disagreement with his approach is that he's approaching from a skeptic or from a debunker standpoint. And from my perspective, not speaking for everyone, but when I hear that, that tells me that you're driving towards a particular conclusion, which has been a very safe process for the past X years, right? Times have changed a little bit. And the tactics I've seen to try to retain that.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's no way that you only watch that for a few seconds and don't have more interest. It was too bizarre. So kind of going back, does the office exist? Well, I've heard that the admiral essentially... Reported back to the Pentagon about that case real time, essentially, after he left, right? So he basically went back and I was told he reported that to either ATIP directly or to other, somehow the information got there. So from my perspective and from what I've experienced, it seems like, yes, it was a thing. But, you know, as an aviator, I wouldn't know either way, right? That's just my experience from what happened.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was in a position as an aviator that never would have exposed me to anything like that. But I was curious about what people knew. And I think in my mind maybe hoped or hoped someone was looking into this in some sense. But on the day that Gimbal was recorded, I heard that they caught something extra interesting on the FLIR. And I went to the Intel Debrief space. Go see the film. And everyone's gathered around watching it very interesting. And I heard the admirals coming down. And so I was like, I'm going to hang out back quietly, mind my own business, and see. I just want to see his. You know, he came in and he watched a video for like five or six seconds and went, and like turned around and walked out. And I was like, he's definitely seen these before.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Great question. Did the DOD release it or did they kind of get out on their own in some sense? So I don't know the answer to that question, but my understanding of the situation is that the DoD talked about them so much because they're already out there in a sense. And so they had a choice where they could have just straight up lied and said it wasn't theirs or it was fake. But again, I think our culture now is too open and information moves too freely to do things like that. And it kind of left them in a pickle that they had to respond to.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Beautiful. I think that's right on the nose. And it's on my nose because, you know, I didn't give this topic the attention it deserved until I left, right? Until I left and I went to be an instructor pilot where I had more time. You know, I had more downtime to kind of process and think and get out of exactly what you just described. And that's kind of what broke me out of it and got me thinking more about it.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think so we were seeing a lot of these, but we weren't just going on recording them all day. We just kind of put them in that safety bucket be like, all right, there's objects over there. We're just not going to go near it. And so we weren't putting our sensors on them that much. So we were gathering the data kind of secondarily, but we weren't primarily focusing on it to see all the details.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've come to learn after having seen some research online and people really looking into this that it seemed that the object actually climbed during that maneuver. And so the reason it looked like it turned immediately is because it turned like this. It turned in a vertical fashion like that, which was pretty interesting. That's kind of like another example of a flight mechanics that we don't normally operate because we don't change our directions by maneuvering in the vertical if we can help it. You're just killing the fuel, you know. And so if you're like a surveillance platform looking to spend as much time around something, you're not going to climb 500 feet every time you make a turn.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They start flowing in the opposite direction and kind of got back in that formation. And while that was happening, the gimbal object was proceeding as I left to right. And as the formation kind of turned up to the north and was just passing back it, the gimbal just kind of went back in the opposite direction. So to follow it back in that direction. And in the flare itself, you see the object change its orientation quite a bit. So you see it more or less level, maybe caned about 45 degrees, and then you see it kind of moving around like this, almost as if it was a gimbal.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And what they essentially saw was if we were to consider above the object north, so it kind of offset to the north of the object, there was a formation of about somewhere between 400 and 60 of these objects and a rough wedge formation, you know, so kind of side by side like this. And again, not in a like autopilot type manner where it was very stiff. It was very kind of non-mechanical, the flight mechanics again. And these objects were in that formation and they were going along and then they turned pretty sharply, but they still had A radius of turn and then went back in the opposite direction. And during that turn, they were kind of like all over the place. It wasn't tight. They weren't even flying in away. I would expect them to be flying in relation to a flight lead. They were flying as if they were flying close to each other, but not in formation, which was kind of strange, right? And then when they rolled out, they kind of tightened backed up. So when they basically, they started that turn and then 180 degrees out.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was no exhaust. There was no outgashing of repellent in any manner, right? It was just an object that had nothing emitting from it that was stationary in the sky. Well, not stationary, but it was moving along a path, right? It wasn't falling out of the sky. And it continued along if we were to consider it from a God's eye view again on the essay page, it continued along in a path. And from the perspective top-down view, it just went in the other direction. So just an instantaneous direction change from that perspective. You also hear them very excitedly talking on the tapes about whatever the heck this thing is and look at the essay. There's a whole formation of them. And so the essay is a situational awareness page. And again, it's a large display that gives that God's eye view of all the radar context”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, a lot of swearing. So, what you see on the flare footage is a Black or white, depending on you look at it, object that's somewhat shaped like a gimbal. It appears almost as if someone put two plates together, and then there seems to be almost like a small funnel of iron energy at the top of the bottom of those plates, in a sense. So almost as if there's a stick going in between two plates, but not that pronounced, right? So there's an energy field that kind of went to a funnel on the top and the bottom, at least that's how it was being portrayed on the flear. There's a lot of conversation about that being glare at things of that nature, but it was actually a very tight IR image. It just was nondescript shape, which was interesting. Typically, we would see the skin of the aircraft. We can see the flames coming out of the exhaust, especially at those ranges.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Call the workup training event. And so this is like a month on the boat where we're essentially conducting wartime operations, more or less, to stress ourselves out and to kind of The last training block before we go on deployment essentially, so it's pretty high stress. They actually do send aircraft from land bases to kind of try to penetrate, and we're expected to go intercept them. And so we're kind of practicing like we play. And so he saw these objects on the radar, the gimbal, and a fleet of other aircraft or vehicles. And they initially thought it was part of the training exercise that they were sending something in to try to penetrate the airspace. And so they flew over to it. And as they got close enough to get on the flear, I think everyone has heard their reaction and they realize that it wasn't something they were expecting to see.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So the gimbal, I'll talk about that one first. I was airborne for that one. The person that recorded it was a good friend of mine. But I mean, both air crew, I knew both of them, but the wizard himself, very close friends with us, went through a lot of her training together. We went to the same fleet squadron. He ended up transitioning to be a pilot and then came to where I was instructing. So I got to instruct him a bit on his transition. And the way that was was we went out on a air-to-air training mission, so simulating an air fight against our own guys. They're acting like the bad guys and kind of go head to head against each other. And when we fly out in those missions, we all fly out together, more or less. We set up. And then we kind of a trite from the fight as we either run out of gas or something happens. And so people usually go back onesies or twosies. And so the air crew that recorded the gimbal, they were going back to the boat. And we were on what's...”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source