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“Yeah, and you know, I use that terminology because it's kind of important, right? Cross domain tracking is something that we haven't had to necessarily worry about, right? Because airplanes operated in the air and submarines operated underwater and spaceplanes operated in space, right? But, you know, there's going to be that's going to blur, I think, as we move along here, especially in the air and space regime. And being able to perhaps transition my radar contact at 40,000 feet to another radar system that can track it up to 200,000 feet, you know, that might be a value. And so we seem to be missing that right now.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You think it would be somewhat as easy as traveling through interstellar space, at least, right? Yeah. I wish I had a great answer for that, but as an aviator, that's a kind of a black box for us. We don't have great, what I would call cross-domain tracking, right? I can't see something go underwater and then follow it underwater.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A truly anomalous experience. Do like mental models in my head to find potential solutions to discredit that, right? Like as much as I try, right? Just as a logical process, as a practice, I can't pick it apart in the way that we were just talking about a moment ago about thousands of drones being sent up in very tricky manners, right? I can't really bring myself to a clever solution that other than just saying the pilots are lying or it was error, you know. And I believe I know Dave Fraver, you know, I consider him a friend. We talk a lot. I have zero reason to disbelieve anything he says.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly, exactly. They feel at least comfortable. They have a reporting mechanism. And so that was one of the problems that I noticed that we have a lot of reporting mechanisms to take care of safety issues and even tactical issues when the time's right in order to keep track of what's going on. But there's no way to communicate about this. Sherry, we could submit a hazard report, but nothing's actually being investigated. And if this is a tactical vulnerability or something more, it deserves attention.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That were being briefed about this being a safety hazard at this point. And so now that I think about it, it likely wasn't Jess. Long story short, they went flying. The weather was too bad. They did go into UFO hunt. And they physically saw one. And he called me up and said, hey, sir, I saw a cube and a sphere. They're still out here. Years later. And so it's almost like a generational issue for these fighter pilots, at least on the East Coast.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Almost hitting these objects, and it's not something that happened in the past, and we want to understand it, it's happening right now. These occurrences are still happening. Aviators are flying right now are still flying by these things. And in fact, I mentioned I was an instructor pilot. I had a student call me about eight months ago or so, and he's like, hey, sir, you know, I made it to the fleet finally, I had trained him how to fly, and then he goes to that 18, he goes another year of training, and then he gets out to his squadron on the East Coast, and he's flying with his senior member of the base NAS, Oceana, where the fighters fly out of senior five or six. And it was kind of a bad weather day. And so they said, hey, you know, if the weather's not good enough for us to do this dogfighting set, we'll go out and do a UAP hunt, you know, see if we can't find any things or take a look at them, you know? I don't know if it was in jest or not, but I actually would say it's not in jest because there were no.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I thank you for saying that, but it didn't feel like much of a risk for me. You know, I didn't come out about aliens, right? Or whatever. I had a safety problem that I started asking questions about. And I went down a road as a Navy-trained aviation safety officer, right, that sent me to school for six weeks in Pensacola to be a safety officer.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Their entire careers working towards a goal and getting to very high positions within government. And so this is very against their nature to take a stance on a topic like this. And so the fact that these are standing up, even if they do have a small budget or if they struggled a bit at first, I still think it's a massive change and it's a big step away from that stigma that has been pervading this topic for so long.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think we've been in that latter state for a while, but society seems to be a bit different nowadays. We have the ability to communicate and to group and to form relationships in a way that hadn't been able to be present in the past. We've been able to do research for better or worse on our own in a way that hasn't been able to happen before. And so I sense that people are a bit less willing to kind of buy the bottom line statement from those in power as they used to be back when they didn't have access to those tools. And so I do think there is a massive role for the general society, general populace to play to show that they are interested in this. Because it's not that I don't think the politicians or the leaders in the Pentagon, it's not that they don't like this topic necessarily or think it's toxic per se, but they exist in a culture where this has been toxic and they don't feel comfortable talking about it. And these are people that are spent.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so. I'll just say generally, you know, the office has been receptive to AI delay reaching out in order to collaborate, which has been a positive sign. Also pass the same kudos to Dr. Spergel and NASA's effort as well. I see these organizations that are standing up. I do see them as good faith efforts that are coming about through a lot of difficulty and negotiation most likely, right? And I see these as a small door opening that if we can take advantage of can lead to a much more productive relationship between these organizations.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that remains to be seen. I think it's a step in the right direction, but it's a step that was taken because the previous step didn't happen. So the AOI MSG was the progeny essentially of the AARO or ARO. And the name was changed because nothing was happening and it was essentially just a confusing mess of words that were created to make this topic unpalatable. That airborne object identification synchronization management group, quite the mouthful. I practice that. But the new all domain anomaly resolution office, you know, from my perspective at least, at least the perspective that they're putting out, they Seem to want to be open. They put out a Twitter handle. They're going out on Twitter and communicating saying they want to keep this open. But, you know, that's going to run into a classification wall.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Congressman Andre Carson did chair the committee, and he was, I think, ultimately responsible for bringing it all together. I think the intent from Congress was to try to bring light to what has been happening with the Navy and to help show the American people that Congress is taking this serious because something serious is happening. But, you know, the sense I got seemed a bit disingenuous. They talked around it a lot. advertised their love of science fiction, but they didn't treat this, I would say, in the manner it deserved as a potential tactical threat if it's coming from a foreign power. And I get it, though. At the same day, they have very specific objectives within the DOD, right? They have a very important job. Their job isn't necessarily to do exploratory science for no reason. I applaud and I encourage their efforts on the intelligence side to help understand this.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so. Yeah, I think there's a lot of data that could be made available. And that's one of the reasons why I've been engaged with the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics to build a large resources of cross-domain expertise so that if or when that data is available or that there's additional analysis needed, we can spin up those teams and make that analysis.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There, maybe, you know, sensor capabilities are the areas of focus if we can determine how they're working in conjunction with each other. But seeing one little flash of an object doesn't provide that type of insight. But we have the systems for it, but it's kind of not in irony, but it's a fact of life, the reality that many of these well-deployed, highly capable systems are held under the military umbrella, which makes it difficult to provide that data for scientific analysis.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I like the term non-human intelligence in a sense. Because Again, there's a lot of assumptions in there that may cause us to go down the wrong roads. Could these could be something that our weather phenomena of Earth, right? Or something else that is just something we don't understand or can't imagine right now that's still of this Earth. If we consider extraterrestrials or something that came from a physical place far away in space-time, that leads us to some detection assumptions that we would need to make. And so I just try to not categorize it under anything and just say, hey, is this demonstrating intelligence and start from there as a single object? What can we learn about it kinematically? How it's performing? What does that mean for us energy source? What does that mean for the g-forces inside? And then step it out a level and say, okay, how are these interacting with our fighters if they are? How are they interacting with the weather and their environment? How are they interacting with each other? So can we look at these and how they're interacting perhaps as a swarm, especially off the east coast where this is happening all the time with multiple objects. And so we might be able to determine some things about”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, like at nighttime flying, there's so many things that can happen flying with false horizons. And so we receive hours of training on that type of stuff. But this just falls outside the category from my perspective”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've tried to expose myself to Scenarios like that that I don't necessarily think are right, but I've explored them to see if they could have some truth. And one example is, let's imagine a scenario where if we're seeing these objects every day off the East Coast, I can imagine a technology or an operation where you had some type of traditional propulsion system operating drones in order to gather data like we had discussed. And I could envision a cleverer enough adversary that could perhaps destroy or somehow remove these objects and replace them with new objects essentially when we're not looking, right? And that accounts for the large airborne time. And so I explore options like that and I try to see, you know, what evidence and assumptions need to be made in order to prove or disprove that. And you would need so much infrastructure. You need so many assets. And so I try to explore some of those fallacies and some of those concerns.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that there are a number of things that this is going to be, right? I don't think there's one thing at the end of the day, but I certainly think that that is part of what some of this could be. I don't think it's what we were seeing on the East Coast, and I don't think it is related to the Roosevelt incident, or I'll even go out and say the Nimitz incident.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Advanced technology that would be beneficial commercially as well as other military applications for it to be completely locked away by one of our competitors. Now, I could see us perhaps locking something away if we're already in the lead and having it to pull out as needed. But for someone that's perhaps in a power struggle and they're in second place, they might be more aggressive with the development of different types of technology willing to accept bigger risks.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Even one of our allies, perhaps, right? Maybe that's an, you know. I don't think it's controversial to say that our allies could be gathering information about us or anything of that nature. But that would be an extreme case, but I think it's just important to say, right, to not just say Russia or China and just call them the bad guys and assume that if they don't have it, no one can do it. And so from my perspective, anyone else, anyone else, and it doesn't necessarily need to be a foreign power, it could be a non-government entity, perhaps, although I think that's very unlikely. But again, these are things you must consider if you kind of throw everything other than the US under scrutiny. But, you know, from what has been reported and the behaviors that have been seen, it would be, I would expect to see remnants of that technology elsewhere in the economy. There seems to be too many things that require”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that that could occur, right? And so if we just make that assumption, we can integrate that into our analysis here and just say, okay, but at the point we're at now, we have to assume that that's not the case, right? With everything that's been going on in the statements that have been made and the hearings, I think that if it was a non-communication issue, we're in big trouble at this point.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know, I don't know what it could be. I think we've been able to categorize it successfully into a few buckets. We've been able to say that, you know, this could be U.S. technology, that someone put in the wrong piece of sky or perhaps was developed and tested in an appropriate spot by someone that wasn't paying best practices.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Least from my perspective, like that never really crossed into my mind. I thought it was potentially an intelligence failure that could be being watched and information gathered. But I didn't think that it was something that would Proactively engage me in a hostile manner. It wouldn't really make sense either to it would be shocking to have one of these objects take out an F-18, but there's no real tactical advantage other than fear perhaps.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe it was balloons or drones or malfunctions, or maybe we thought it was fine. But at the end of the day, if we're going to hit one of these things, then we need to take care of the situation. And that's actually when we start submitting hazard reports or hazards to the Naval Aviation Safety kind of communication network. And it's not like a big proactive thing where people go investigate. It's more of a data collection mechanism so that you can kind of share that aggregate data and make sure things are progressing. So it wasn't a mechanism that would result in action being taken, but we were hoping to at least get the message out to whomever was maybe running a classified program that we were not aware of or something like that that, hey, like you could kill somebody here. You've grown too big for your bridges here. Take a step back. So that was our concern at that point. That's kind of where we were thinking this was going.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Answer the first part, they actually canceled the flight and came back because they were, you know, it's like if there's one of these out here and we're almost hitting them and it's right there, then perhaps we need to get a different jet with better radar. So they came back and they're in their gear, and they're talking to the front desk and talking to Skipper, and like, hey, we almost hit one of those damn things out there. And this kind of was one of those kind of slight watershed moments where we all were kind of like, all right, this is a serious deal now.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Went between the object, I think. I don't think that the object was moving. I don't think it aggressively went at them. I think it was located still there and then they flew through it. But they didn't have it on their radar. And I think the radar might have been malfunctioning. I don't know that for sure. I would like to look into it. But my supposition is that if their radar was malfunctioning, it would make sense that they wouldn't avoid the object that was there because they knew these were physical at that point. And we would go up to these objects all the time and try to see them. We couldn't see them. And we didn't know what it was. Was it that were they just not there and were being fooled? Was something happening? Were they moving, dropping L2 at the last minute? You know, we're going by pretty quick, so it was difficult to tell. But perhaps if his radar wasn't working, it wasn't receiving energy from the jet. And the jet, of course, didn't know that it was there. And so whatever the case was, they flew right by and they described it just as a dark gray or...”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So eventually, someone did see one with their own eyeballs, multiple people, and they saw it in a somewhat interesting way. The object presented itself at the exact altitude and geographic location of the entry points into our working areas. So we enter at a very specific point at a certain altitude and people leave the areas the same point at a lower altitude. Probably one of the busiest pieces of sky on the eastern seaboard. So two jets from my squadron went out and they went flying and they entered the area and one of these objects went right between the aircraft as well.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Our malfunction, we need to be aware of it's a safety issue, and then this could be a tactical problem right here because everything we do is based off a crypto and locations. Everything's classified we do out there, right? And so over time, if you gather enough data about those fights and just modern them forever, just like some nations do with other piece of technology or software, they could probably learn a lot. So we have to be cognizant of that fact and defend against it.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We have a lot of contact now that we did it back then. So it was still hey, is this a balloon? Is this a drone? At a certain point. And we're also aware of potential intelligence gathering operations that could be going on. We're up there flying our tactics. We're emitting. We're practicing our EW. We're turning at particular times. There's stuff that can be learned. It's not a secret. And, you know, countries keep different fishing vessels and whatnot in international waters off there. So it's not exactly a secret that we're being observed out there. So to think that a foreign hostile or a foreign nation would want to somehow intercept information, whether that's our radar signals or our jamming capabilities to try to break that down or understand it better and be ready for that next fight. I mean, that's what scares me about this scenario because we didn't jump right to aliens or UFOs. We thought, you know, this is a”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We would talk to them, hey, like careful, there's an object. Are you aware of that? So they would be aware of it. And then, of course, people would want to go see what they look like, right? So people would try to fly by. I try to fly by him.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Once we start seeing them on the radar enough and we would get close enough, we'd actually see them on our Fleer as well. Advanced targeting pod. It's essentially an infrared camera that we use for targeting mostly in the air to surface environment. We don't use it in the Air-Tair Arena. It's just not that good of a tool, frankly. But we would see IR energy emitting from that location where the radar was dropping us off. So the radar, we'd lock onto the object and our sensors would all look there. And so then we could see that it's looking at the right piece of sky, but there's energy actually coming from there. So now we started thinking that, okay, maybe not radar malfunctions, maybe more, maybe something is physically here, of course, and then people started to try to fly by and see it. And at this point, I would say maybe 80 to 90% of our squadron, you've probably seen one of these on the radar. At this point, everyone was aware of it. There was small communication, I think, between squadrons of the same area that had the same radar. So I knew it wasn't just our squadron for whatever strange reason because they would be other squadron to be out there.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Typically, they would be in some type of circular pattern or kind of racetrack pattern when they were at those beads, or I just see them kind of, and it wasn't always like a mechanical flight description. And when I say that, I mean like an autopilot is going to be just very precise, right? It's going to be locked on straight. Whereas I could see an airplane, I could tell if the pilot's flying it, right? Because it's not going to be perfect. Computer's not controlling it. And these seem more like that. Not that they were imprecise, but that they were even much more erratic than that. So it wasn't like a straight line and a turn. It was just kind of like a weird drift like that in that direction, you know?”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Possible for people to be there. It's not necessarily restricted, but it's well monitored, and we're out there every day, all day. And so, you know, people know to stay clear if a Cessna goes bumbling in there, everyone's going to know about it. FA is going to, you know, call them out, gonna tell us about it. Encouragement's happened, not a big deal, but they're pretty rare, honestly, because everyone knows the area and we've been operating there for decades.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“See them flying in patterns, kind of racetrack patterns or circular patterns or just going kind of straight east. I occasionally see them supersonic, 1.1, 1.2 mock, but typically a 0.6 to 0.8 mock just for extremely extended periods of time. Essentially all the time. And this is airspace where there's not supposed to be anything else at all. And it's pretty far out there. It starts 10 miles off the coast, goes like 300 miles”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to go that far. I've just been able to eliminate some variables because of how long I've observed it. So, like you said, yes, can a drone stay in a particular position against a wind like that? Certainly, but I don't think it can do that and then go 0.8 mock for four. When you look at it outside of that moment in time, then it eliminates a lot of the potential things it could be, at least from my perspective.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it could look very stationary. But that wasn't necessarily what's interesting about this story is that there's not like the one smoking gun, right? You have to kind of look at everything. And that's what I don't like about the Department of Defense and just generally people's take on this is that everything is kind of based around a single image that one case, but a lot of interestingness comes from the duration or the time it's been out there, how they're interacting relative to other objects out there. And you don't get that information when you just look at a frame for a second, you know? Everyone kind of bites off in the shiny object, but.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not a military drone. No, I have a DJI drone myself even. And maybe not 100 knots, but if that thing's in 30 or 40 knot wins, the amount of distance it's going to be kind of doing one of these, like that change is not something I detect from maybe many miles away.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That line would be an A play. So, kind of, you know, is it unable to determine the target aspect? Is it stationary? And that's just how it puts it out and it's not used to seeing it. So I'm not saying that's necessarily super weird, but it was different than what we were used to seeing because we weren't used to seeing stationary objects out there very much. And what was also interesting is that these weren't just stationary on a zero-wind day, right? These are stationary at 20,000 feet, 15,000 feet, 500 feet with the wind blowing, you know. And so much like the sea, you know, when we're up there fighting, it affects everything. We consider the win when we're, you know, shooting missiles, when we're flying, our fuel considerations. It's like operating in that volume of air, like the ocean. Everything's going with the current. And so anything that doesn't go with the current is immediately kind of identifiable and strange. And that's why these were initially strange is because they would be stationed.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Out there, we're seeing it. We don't have to necessarily pull things into our tracker in some sense, right? Like it's all out there, and then we can kind of choose the highlight on stuff or to kind of focus in on it more so. But the information should all be out there. And so we'd see that target aspect indicator, that line on a typical aircraft, it would kind of look like this. It would be coming out and it would go steady. And if they turn, it would be like, and you see them turn, right? Like, it's not magic. But this object, the target aspect would kind of be like all over the place, like kind of randomly in a 360 degrees, you know, from that top down view.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whereas the situational awareness page, the aircraft is located in the center of that. And then all around me, you know, based off of the data link and wherever I'm getting information from, I can see that whole where page. I can see how it's situation. So I'm going to kind of talk about this from the situational awareness page, which is a top-down view, just to kind of frame our minds instead of jumping around. And so what we would see out there is we'd see these indications that something would be there and they would have a track file. That track file, that thing that represents the object, has a line coming out of it. And that represents, it's called the target aspect indicator.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is, but for the aviator, it's slightly different because those two radar displays I talked about are at the bottom of that display of representative of where I am. And so I see what's in front of me.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And there are two different ways to do that. The first one is like the actual data, the radar where it's showing me the data kind of as if it's in front of me and I'm selecting those contacts. And there's another screen called the situational awareness page. And that's kind of a god's eye view that brings all that data into one spot. And so I'm going to talk about this from the essay page, from the situational awareness page versus the individual radar ones because it's easier.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so, what we would see Representations of the object. So this is off of our radar. We're not seeing a visual image here. This is kind of like what's being displayed to us almost like in a gaming fashion, right? Like the icon, right? So the icon is showing us, hey, something is there. And here's a parameters I can understand about it.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Surprising in some sense, they are more sensitive. Perhaps they're not filtering out everything they should be yet, or perhaps there's some other type of error. Maybe it needs to be calibrated, whatever. It was relatively new, and we were somewhat used to there being software problems with these types of things occasionally, just like anything else. And so, okay, maybe this is a radar software malfunction. We're getting some false tracks, as we call them.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Less of a test and more of just hey, it's your turn to get the upgrade. Like, we're all going to these better radars. They were building ones off the line with the new radar, but we were this weird transitionary squadron in the middle that transitioned from the older ones to the new ones. But it's not particularly rare to fly with different types of radar because we call the fleet replacement squadron, essentially the training ground for the F-18, you have all sorts of F-18s with different radars. You are used to having multiple ones, but in the actual deployable combat squadron, we upgraded. And when we upgraded, we saw that there were objects on the radars that we were seeing the next day in with this new radar that weren't there with the old radar. And these were sometimes the same day. You might go in two flights. The one in the morning might be with the older radar, the one in the evening with the new radar, and you'd see the objects with the new radar. And that's not over.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a perfectly fine radar, but the ACE radar is kind of a magnitude jump and capability, kind of an analog digital kind of mindset.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll do my best. So we returned from, and when I say we, I mean, not my squadron, but VFA 11, the Red Rippers, I was a somewhat junior pilot at the time. I joined them on deployment in 2012, where they had been already out there for about six months or so operating in the vicinity of Afghanistan. I joined them and then we flew back and still as a relatively new guy, we came back and we entered what's considered a maintenance phase where we slowed down the tactical flying a bit, kind of recuperate, do some maintenance on the aircraft. And our particular model of the F- The lot number was plumbed for the particular things that were needed to upgrade the radar from what's known as the ABG73 to the ABG79. And the ABG73 is a mechanically scanned array radar.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In 1918, we were in London or the UK somewhere, and we apparently partied with the owner and founder of Gorn's Gin. We had a great time, and there's a signed letter in our ready room that says we can use the logo in perpetuity.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do so. This is VFA 11 Red Rippers patch typically going actually on our arm. So this is actually what we call the boar's head or Arnold. So this is actually the boar's head from the Gordon's gin bottle.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So many stars that you normally can't see, they're shooting stars all the time. Almost every flight, you'd see them with the goggles on. So it was a great pleasure to take advantage of the lack of light pollution in some cases, especially on deployment, to go grab some goggles at night, go out some quiet spot in the ship that no one can see me and just kind of look around, you know.”
2022-08-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #308 – Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source