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  1. I think I have more serious problems than that one. I think I'm like Disconnected from the reality of life for most people. And trying to really not just like empathize with, but internalize what the impact on people that AGI is going to have. I probably like feel that less than other people would.

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  2. What's a good one? I think I'm not a great spokesperson for the AI movement. I'll say that. I think there could be a more like. Could be someone who enjoyed it more. There could be someone who's much more charismatic. There could be someone who connects better. I think with people, then I do.

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  3. There's like a lot of quirks about me that make me. Not a great CEO for OpenAI, but a thing in the positive column is I think I am Relatively good at. Not being affected by pressure for the sake of pressure.

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  4. I both worry about it and want it. To the point of wearing this bubble and we shouldn't make all these decisions, like we want society to have a huge degree of input here, that is pressure in some point in some way.

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  5. There might be pressure to make a bias system. What I meant is the technology I think will be capable of being much less biased.

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  6. You've asked this a few times, but it's something I often do. I ask people in an interview or whatever to steal man the beliefs of someone they really disagree with and the inability of a lot of people to even pretend like they're willing to do that is remarkable.

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  7. This is the part that we understand the least well. We're great at the pre training machinery. We're now trying to figure out how we're going to select those people, how we'll verify that we get a representative sample, how we'll do different ones for different places, but we don't have that functionality built out yet.

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  8. I'm going on around the world user tour soon for a month to just go like talk to our users in different cities. And I can feel how much I'm craving doing that because I haven't done anything like that since in years. I used to do that more for YC and to go talk to people in super different contexts. And it doesn't work over the internet, like to go show up in person and sit down and go to the bars they go to and kind of like walk through the city like they do, you learn so much. Get out of the bubble so much. I think we are much better than any other company I know of in San Francisco for not falling into the kind of like SF craziness, but I'm sure we're still pretty deeply in it

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  9. 100%, we try to avoid the SF Groupthink bubble, it's harder to avoid the AI groupthink bubble that follows you everywhere

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  10. There's been more of that than I would have thought. We will try to get the default version to be as neutral as possible, but as neutral as possible is not that neutral if you have to do it again for more than one person. And so this is where more steerability, more control in the hands of the user, the system message in particular. Is I think the real path forward. And as you pointed out, these nuanced answers that look at something from several angles.

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  11. Honestly, I barely know what woke means anymore. I did for a while, and I feel like the word is morphed. So I will say I think it was too biased. Will always be. There will be no one version of GPT that the world ever agrees is unbiased. Think is we've made a lot like again, even some of our harshest critics have gone off and been tweeting about 3.5 to 4 comparisons and being like, wow, these people really got a lot better. Not that they don't have more work to do, and we certainly do, but I appreciate critics who display intellectual honesty like that.

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  12. I mean, so much, right? Like he has. He has driven the world forward in important ways. I think we will get to electric vehicles much faster than we would have if he didn't exist. I think we'll get to space much faster than we would have if he didn't exist. And as a sort of like citizen of the world, I'm very appreciative of that. Also, like being a jerk on Twitter aside in many instances, he's like a very funny and warm guy

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  13. Elon is obviously attacking us some on Twitter right now on a few different vectors, and I have empathy because I believe he is. Understandably so, really stressed about AGI safety. Sure, there are some other motivations going on, too, but that's definitely one of them. I saw this video of Elon. Long time ago talking about SpaceX maybe was on some news show. And a lot of early pioneers in space were really bashing. SpaceX and maybe Elon too and He was visibly very hurt by that and said. Those guys are heroes of mine, and I suck and I wish they would see how hard we're trying. I definitely grew up with Elon as a hero of mine. Know, despite him being a jerk on Twitter or whatever, I'm happy he exists in the world I wish he would Do more to look at the hard work we're doing to get this stuff right.

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  14. Think we agree on the magnitude of the downside of AGI and the need to get Not only safety right, but get to a world where people are much better off. Because AGI exists, then if AGI had never been built.

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  15. Twitter is unreadable So sometimes I do. I can like take a sample cup out of the waterfall. But I mostly take it from conversations like this.

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  16. Think people at OpenAI feel the weight of responsibility of what we're doing. And yeah, it would be nice if journalists were nicer to us and Twitter trolls gave us more benefit of the doubt. But I think we have a lot of resolve in what we're doing and why and the importance of it. But I really would love, and I ask this of a lot of people, not just if cameras are rolling, like any feedback you've got for how we can be doing better. We're in uncharted waters here. Talking to smart people is how we figure out what to do better.

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  17. Closed in some sense, but we give more access to it. If this had just been Google's game. I feel it's very unlikely that anyone would have put this API out. There's PR risk with it I get personal threats because of it all the time. I think most companies wouldn't have done this. So maybe we didn't go as open as people wanted, but like we've distributed it pretty broadly.

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  18. Do you think we're doing, like, honest? How do you think we're doing so far? Like, how do you think our decisions are? Do you think we're making things better, worse? What can we do better?

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  19. Sure. Look, I think You Decisions about this technology and certainly decisions about Who is running this technology to become increasingly democratic over time? We haven't figured out quite how to do this, but part of the reason for deploying like this is to get the world to have time to adapt. And to reflect and to think about this, to pass regulation for our institutions to come up with new norms, for the people working out together, like that is a huge part of why we deploy, even though many of the AI safety people you referenced earlier think it's really bad, even they acknowledge that this is like of some benefit. But I think any version of one person is in control of this is really bad.

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  20. Companies, but the incentives of capitalism to create and capture unlimited value. A little afraid of, but again, no, I think no one wants to destroy the world. No one excepts saying, like, today I want to destroy the world. So we've got the Malik problem. On the other hand, we've got people who are very aware of that. And I think a lot of healthy conversation about how can we collaborate to minimize. Some of these very scary downsides

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  21. We can't control what other people are going to do. We can try to build something and talk about it and influence others and provide value and good systems for the world, but they're going to do what they're going to do. I think right now there's like Extremely fast and not super deliberate motion inside of some of these companies, but already I think people are, as they see, the rate of progress. Already people are grappling with what's at stake here. And I think the better angels are going to win out.

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  22. It was really To do what we needed to go do, we had tried and failed enough to raise the money as a nonprofit. We didn't see a path forward there. So we needed some of the benefits of capitalism, but not too much. I remember at the time someone said, you know, as a nonprofit, not enough will happen. As a for-profit, too much will happen. So we need this sort of strange immediate.

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  23. We started as a nonprofit. We learned early on that we were going to need far more capital than we were able to raise as a nonprofit. Our nonprofit is still fully in charge. There is a subsidiary capped profit so that our investors and employees can earn a certain fixed return and then beyond that everything else flows to the nonprofit. And the nonprofit is like invoking control, lets us make a bunch of nonstandard decisions, can cancel equity, can do a whole bunch of other things, can let us merge with another org, protects us from making decisions that are not in any shareholder's interest. So I think as a structure that has been important to a lot of the decisions we've made.

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  24. Large industrial AI lab was like DMing individual reporters being like, you know, these people aren't very good and it's ridiculous to talk about AGI and I can't believe you're giving them time of day. And it's like, that was the level of pettiness and rancor in the field at a new group of people saying we're going to try to build AGI.

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  25. Think there's going to be many AGIs in the world, so we don't have to out compete everyone. We're going to contribute one. Other people are going to contribute some. I think multiple AGIs in the world with some differences in how they're built and what they do and what they're focused on. I think that's good. We have a very unusual structure. So we don't have this incentive to capture unlimited value. I worry about the people who do, but hopefully it's all going to work out. We're a weird org and we're good at resisting. Like we have been a misunderstood and badly mocked org for a long time. Like when we started. We announced the org at the end of 2015. Said we're going to work on AGI. People thought we were batshit insane. Know, like, I remember at the time a eminent AI scientist at a

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  26. You stick with what you believe in, you stick to your mission. You know, I'm sure people will get ahead of us in all sorts of ways and take shortcuts we're not going to take. And we just aren't going to do that.

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  27. There's a lot of things you can try. But at this point, it is a certainty. There are soon going to be a lot of capable open sourced LLMs with very few to no safety controls on them. And so Can try with regulatory approaches. You can try with using more powerful AIs to detect this stuff happening. I'd like us to start trying a lot of things very soon.

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  28. The current worries that I have are that Going to be disinformation problems or economic shocks or something else. A level far beyond anything we're prepared for. And that doesn't require super intelligence. That doesn't require a super deep alignment problem in the machine waking up and trying to deceive us And I don't think that gets Enough attention Starting to get more, I guess.

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  29. It's weird when people think it's like a big dunk that I say, I'm a little bit afraid, and I think it'd be crazy not to be a little bit afraid Empathize with people who are a lot afraid

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  30. I'm certainly willing to believe that. Consciousness is somehow the fundamental substrate, and we're all just in the dream or the simulation or whatever. I think it's interesting how much sort of the Silicon Valley religion of the simulation has gotten close to like Brahman and how little space there is between them. But from these very different directions. So like maybe that's what's going on. But if it is physical reality as we Understand it and all of the rules of the game are what we think they are, then there's something I still think it's something very strange.

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  31. So I think there's many other tasks like that that we could look at too. But my personal beliefs. Consciousness is of Something very strange is going on.

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  32. Some things that you weren't trained about. And for most of them, the model was like, I have no idea what you're talking about. But then you asked it, you sort of described the Experience the subjective experience of consciousness and the model immediately responded unlike the other questions. Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. Would update me somewhat.

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  33. I can just share a few disconnected thoughts here. I'll tell you something that Ilya said to me once a long time ago that has like stuck in my head. Yes, my co founder and the chief scientist of OpenAI and sort of legend in the field. We were talking about how you would know if a model were conscious or not. And heard many ideas thrown around, but he said one that I think is interesting. If you trained a model on a data set that you were extremely careful to have no mentions of consciousness or anything close to it. The training process. Like, not only was the word never there, but nothing about the sort of subjective experience of it or related concepts. And then you started talking to that model about

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  34. You don't know, obviously, we can go to like the freshman year dorm late at Saturday night kind of thing. You don't know that you're not a GPT-4 role.

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  35. I think we're getting into the phase where specific definitions of AGI really matter. Or we just say, you know, I know it when I see it, and I'm not even going to bother with the definition. But under the I know it when I see it. Don't feel that close to me. Like if We were reading a sci fi book and there was a character that was an AGI, and that character was GPT-4. I'd be like, well, this is a shitty book. You know, that's not very cool. I would have hoped we had done better.

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  36. So, I think that GPT 4, although quite impressive, is definitely not an AGI. Isn't it remarkable we're having this debate?

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  37. I'm in the slow takeoff short timelines is the most likely good world and we optimize the company to Maximum impact in that world to try to push for that kind of a world and the decisions that we make are Know there's like probability masses, but weighted towards that. And I think I'm very afraid of the fast takeoffs. I think in the longer timelines it's harder to have a slow takeoff. There's a bunch of other problems too. But that's what we're trying to do. Do you think GPT-4 is an AGI?

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  38. Say the takeoff that we start the takeoff period. Next year or in 20 years? And then it takes one year or ten years. You can even say one year or five years, whatever you want for the takeoff.

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  39. So I'll come back to the would we go about our day or not thing. I think there's like a bunch of interesting lessons from COVID and the UFO videos and a whole bunch of other stuff that we can talk to there. But on the takeoff question, if we imagine a 2x2 matrix of short timelines till AGI starts, long timelines till AGI starts, slow takeoff, fast takeoff, you have an instinct on what do you think the safest quadrant would be?

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  40. You shipped an AGI and I somehow like I'm just going about my daily life and I'm not that impressed. I obviously don't think we shipped an AGI. But I get the point and the world is continuing on.

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  41. So GPT4 has not surprised me at all in terms of reception there. ChatGPT surprised us a little bit, but I still was like advocating that we do it because I thought it was going to do really great. So, like, you know, maybe I thought it would have been like. The 10th fastest growing product in history and not the number one fastest. Like, okay, you know, I think it's like hard, you should never kind of assume something's going to be like the most successful product launch ever. But we thought it was, or at least many of us thought it was going to be really good. GBT4 has weirdly not been that much of an update for most people. You know, they're like, oh, it's better than 3.5, but I thought it was going to be better than 3.5, and it's cool, but this is like. Someone said to me over the weekend.

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  42. A lot of the formative AI safety work was done before people even believed in deep learning and certainly before people believed in large language models. And I don't think it's updated enough given everything we've learned now. And everything we will learn going forward. So I think it's got to be this very tight feedback loop. I think the theory does play a real role, of course, but continuing to learn what we learn from how the technology trajectory goes. Quite important. I think now is a very good time, and we're trying to figure out how to do this to significantly ramp up technical alignment work. I think we have new tools, we have no understanding, and there's a lot of work that's important to do. We can do now.

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  43. I think some of his work has been sort of somewhat difficult to follow or had what I view as like quite significant logical flaws. But he wrote this one blog post outlining why he believed that alignment was such a hard problem that I thought was, again, don't agree with a lot of it, but well-reasoned and thoughtful and very worth reading. So I think I'd point people to that as the steel man.

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  44. So, first of all, I'll say I think that There's some chance of that, and it's really important to acknowledge it because if we don't talk about it, if we don't treat it as potentially real, we won't put enough effort into solving it. And I think we do have to discover new techniques to be able to solve it. I think a lot of the predictions, this is true for any new field, but a lot of the predictions about AI in terms of capabilities, in terms of what the safety challenges and the easy parts are going to be have turned out to be wrong. The only way I know how to solve a problem like this is Iterating our way through it. Learning early And limiting the number of one shot to get it right scenarios that we have. To Steelman. I can't just pick one AI safety case or AI alignment case, but I think Eliezer wrote a really great blog post.

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  45. Look, I mean, I hate to sound like utopic tech bro here, but if you'll excuse me for three seconds, like the level of the increase in quality of life that AI can deliver is extraordinary. We can make the world amazing and we can make people's lives amazing. We can cure diseases. We can increase material wealth. We can like help people be happier, more fulfilled. All of these sorts of things. And then people are like, oh, well, no one is going to work. But people want. Status people want drama. People want new things. People want to create. People want to feel useful. People want to do all these things. And we're just going to find new and different ways to do them, even in a vastly better, like unimaginably good standard of living world.

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  46. You know, when Kasparov lost to Deep Blue, somebody said, and maybe it was him that chess is over now. If an AI can beat a human at chess, then no one's going to bother to keep playing, right? Because like, what's the purpose of us or whatever? That was 30 years ago, 25 years ago, something like that. I believe that chess has never been more popular than it is right now. People keep wanting to play and wanting to watch. And by the way, we don't watch two AIs play each other. Which would be a far better game in some sense than whatever else. But that's That's not what we choose to do, like we are somehow much more interested in what humans do in this sense and whether or not Magnus loses to that kid than what happens when two much, much better AIs play each other.

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  47. That's the contribution. And there may be like, I think we're going to find. So I suspect that is happening with great programmers and that GPT-like models are far away from that one thing, even though they're going to automate a lot of other programming. But again, most programmers have some sense of Anxiety about what the future is going to look like, but mostly they're like, this is amazing. I am 10 times more productive.

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  48. The thing that I am so excited about with this is not that it's a system that kind of goes off and does its own thing, but that it's this tool that humans are using in this feedback loop. Helpful for us for a bunch of reasons we get to learn more about trajectories through multiple iterations but I am excited about a world where AI is an extension of human will and a amplifier of our abilities and this like most useful tool yet created. And that is certainly how people are using it. And I mean, just like look at Twitter, the results are amazing people's self-reported happiness with getting to work with this are great. So, yeah, like maybe we never build AGI, but we just make humans super great. Still a huge win.

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  49. If an oracle told me far from the future that GPT 10 turned out to be a true AGI somehow, maybe just some very small new ideas, I would be like, okay, I can believe that. What I would have expected sitting here would have said a new big idea, but I can believe that

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  50. I don't think it needs that. But I wouldn't say any of this stuff with certainty. Like, we're deep into the unknown here. For me, a system that cannot go significantly add to the sum total of scientific knowledge we have access to, kind of discover, invent whatever you want to call it, new fundamental science. Is not a super intelligence. To do that really well, I think we will need to expand on the GPT paradigm in pretty important ways that we're still missing ideas for. Know what those ideas are. We're trying to find them.

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