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  1. “LLMs are a sort of hated result in parts of the field. Everybody wanted to come up with a more elegant way to get to generalized intelligence. And we have been willing to just keep doing what works and looks like it'll keep working.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “I think people got caught up in the parameter count race in the same way they got caught up in the gigahertz race of processors and like the 90s and 2000s or whatever. You, I think, probably have no idea how many gigahertz the processor on your phone is, but what you care about is what the thing can do for you. And there's different ways to accomplish that. You can bump up the clock speed. Sometimes that causes other problems. Sometimes it's not the best way to get gains. But I think what matters is getting the best performance I think one thing that works well about OpenAI. We're pretty truth seeking in just doing whatever is going to make the best performance, whether or not it's the most elegant solution. So I think like,”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “This is like in some sense. Someone said to me this morning, actually, and I was like, Oh, this might be right. This is the most complex software object humanity has yet produced. And it will be trivial in a couple of decades, right? It'll be like kind of anyone can do it, whatever. But yeah, the amount of complexity relative to anything we've done so far that goes into producing this one set of numbers. Quite something”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “How we collect the data, how we clean the data, how we do the training, how we do the optimizer, how we do the architecture, like so many things.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “It's a lot of technical leaps in the base model. One of the things we are good at at OpenAI is finding a lot of small wins and multiplying them together. And each of them maybe is like a pretty big secret in some sense, but it really is the multiplicative impact of all of them and the detail and care we put into it that gets us these big leaps and then, you know, it looks like the outside, like, oh, they just probably did one thing to get from 3 to 3.5 to 4. Like hundreds of complicated things.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “GBT4 has enough nuance to be able to help you explore that without. Entreat you like an adult in the process. GPT 3, I think, just wasn't capable of getting that right. But GPT-4, I think we can get to do this.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “I really don't. A story that has always stuck with me, I don't know if it's true. I hope it is that the reason Steve Jobs put that handle on the back of the first IMAC. Remember that big plastic bright colored thing was that you should never trust a computer. You shouldn't throw out. You couldn't throw out a window. And of course, not that many people actually throw their computer out a window, but it's sort of nice to know that you can. And it's nice to know that like this is a tool very much in my control and this is a tool that does things to help me. And I think we've done a pretty good job of that with GPT-4. But I noticed that I have a visceral response to being scolded by a computer. And I think, you know, that's a good learning from deploying or from creating a system. And we can improve it.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “Do you have systems that try to figure out, you know, try to learn when a question is something that we're supposed to, we call refusals, refuse to answer Is early and imperfect, or again, the spirit of building in public and And bring society along gradually, we put something out, it's got flaws, we'll make better versions. But yes, we are trying, the system is trying to learn questions that it shouldn't answer. One small thing that really bothers me about our current thing, and we'll get this better, is I don't like the feeling of being scolded by a computer.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “I'm sure it has all sorts of subtle effects I don't fully understand, but I don't perceive much of that. I mean, we're happy to admit when we're wrong. We want to get better and better. Think we're pretty good about. Trying to listen to every piece of criticism, think it through, internalize what we agree with, but like the breathless clickbait headlines. I try to let those flow through us.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “And this is something that I think the world will just have to adapt to with these models that sometimes there's a really egregiously dumb answer. And in a world where you click screenshot and share. Might not be representative. Now, already we're noticing a lot more people respond to those things saying, well, I tried it and got this. And so I think we are building up the antibodies there, but it's a new thing.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “There are people doing good work there. If you ask the same question 10,000 times. You rank the outputs from best to worst. What most people see is, of course, something around output five thousand, but the output that gets all of the Twitter attention is output ten thous”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Know, and like in the debates about what shut up in the Facebook feed, having listened to a lot of people talk about that, everyone is like, well, it doesn't matter what's in my feed because I won't be radicalized. I can handle anything. But I really worry about what Facebook shows you.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “We've talked about putting out the base model, at least for researchers or something, but it's not very easy to use. Everyone's like, give me the base model. And again, we might do that. I think what people mostly want is they want a model that has been RLHD. The worldview they subscribe to. It's really about regulating other people's speech. People are”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “We have to be involved, I don't think it would work to just say, hey, UN, go do this thing, and we'll just take whatever you get back because we have like, A, we have the responsibility of we're the one putting the system out and if it breaks, we're the ones that have to fix it or be accountable for it. But B, we know more about what's coming. About where things are hard or easy to do than other people do. So we've got to be involved, heavily involved, and we've got to be responsible in some sense, but it can't just be our input.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Good enough about. And then we and other builders build a system that has that baked in within that, then different countries, different institutions can have different versions. So, you know, there's like different rules about, say, free speech in different countries. And then different users want very different things. And that can be within the, you know, like within the bounds of what's possible in their country. So we're trying to figure out how to facilitate obviously that process is impractical as stated, but what is something close to that we can get to?”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “Well, these sisters can learn a lot if we can agree on what it is that we want them to learn. My dream scenario, and I don't think we can quite get here, but like let's say this is the platonic ideal and we can see how close we get, is that every person on earth would come together, have a really thoughtful, deliberative conversation about where we want to draw the boundary on this system. And we would have something like the US Constitutional Convention where we debate the issues and we look at things from different perspectives and say, well, this would be good in a vacuum, but it needs a check here. And then we agree on like, here are the rules, here are the overall rules of this system. And it was a democratic process. None of us got exactly what we wanted, but we got something that we feel.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Sure. You know, I think something the AI community does is, uh, A little bit of sleight of hand sometimes when people talk about aligning. AI to human preferences and values. There's like a hidden asterisk, which is the values and preferences that I approve of. Navigating that tension of who gets to decide what the real limits are and how do we build Technology that is going to have a huge impact be super powerful. And get the right balance between. Letting people have the system, the AI that is the AI they want, which will offend a lot of other people. And that's okay, but still draw the lines. We all agree have to be drawn somewhere”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “The first versions of these systems were sort of one shot. You said what you wanted, it wrote some code, and that was it. Now you can have this back and forth dialogue where you can say, no, no, I meant this or no, no, fix this bug, or no, no, do this. And then, of course, the next version is the system can debug more on its own and kind of try to like catch mistakes as it's making them. But this idea of dialogue interfaces and iterating with the computer as a creative. Partner That's a really big deal”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Today's Monday, we launched the previous Tuesday, so it's been six days. The degree to which it has already changed programming And what I have observed from how my friends are creating. Tools that are being built on top of it. I think this is where we'll see. Some of the most impact in the short term. It's amazing what people are doing. It's amazing how. This tool, the leverage that's giving people to do their job or their creative work better and better and better, it's super cool.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “There's all these ways that the kind of analogies from humans to AIs like breakdown and the parallelism, the sort of unlimited rollouts. That's the big one.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “I'm not good at this. I've met people who are The creativity that kind of, they almost, some of them almost treat it like debugging software. But also they, I met people who spend like, you know, 12 hours a day from month on end on this, and they really get a feel for the model and a feel how different parts of a prompt compose with each other.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “So, the system message is a way to say, hey, model, please pretend like you, or please only answer this message as if you are Shakespeare doing thing X, or please only respond with JSON no matter what was one of the examples from our blog post. But you could also say any number of other things to that. And then we We tune GPT 4 in a way to really treat the system message with a lot of authority. I'm sure there'll always, not always, hopefully, but for a long time there will be more jailbreaks and we'll keep sort of learning about those. But we program, we develop whatever you want to call it, the model in such a way to learn that it's supposed to really use that system message.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “And there's no one set of human values, or there's no one set of right answers to human civilization. So I think what's going to happen is we will need to agree on as a society on very broad bounds. We'll only be able to agree on a very broad bounds of what these systems can do. And then within those, maybe different countries have different RLHF tunes, certainly individual users have very different preferences. We launched this thing with GPT-4 called the system message, which is not RLHF, but is a way to let users have a good degree of steerability over what they want. And I think things like that will be important.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “Better alignment techniques lead to better capabilities and vice versa. There's cases that are different, and there are important cases, but on the whole, I think things that you could say like RLHF or interpretability that sound like alignment issues also help you make much more capable models, and the division is just much fuzzier than people think. And so in some sense, the work we do to make GPD-4 safer and more aligned looks very similar to all the other work we do of solving the research and engineering problems associated with creating useful and powerful models.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “So, I want to be very clear. I do not think we have yet discovered a way to align a super powerful system. We have something that works for our current skill called RLHF. And we can talk a lot about the benefits of that and the utility it provides. It's not just an alignment. Maybe it's not even mostly an alignment capability. It helps make a better system, a more usable system. And this is actually something that I don't think people outside the field understand enough. It's easy to talk about alignment and capability as orthogonal vectors. Very close”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “Finished last summer. We immediately started. Giving it to people to red team. We started doing a bunch of our own internal safety evals on it. We started trying to work on different ways to align it. And that combination of an internal and external effort plus building a whole bunch of new ways to align the model. And we didn't get it perfect by far, but one thing that I care about is that our degree of alignment increases faster than our rate of capability progress. And that I think will become more and more important over time. I think we made reasonable progress there to a more aligned system than we've ever had before. I think this is the most capable and most aligned model that we've put out. We were able to do a lot of testing on it. And that takes a while. And I totally get why people were like, give us GPT-4 right away.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. “Small stuff is the big stuff in aggregate, so I get it. It's just like I. And I also like, I get why this is such an important issue. This is a really important issue, but that somehow we like. Somehow, this is the thing that we get caught up in versus what is this going to mean for our future? Now maybe you say this is critical to what this is going to mean for our future. The thing that it says more characters about this person than this person and who's deciding that and how it's being decided and how the users get control over that, maybe that is the most important issue. But I wouldn't have guessed it at the time when I was like eight-year-old.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. “I was a little kid, I thought building AI, we didn't really call it AGI at the time. I thought building AI would be like the coolest thing ever. I never really thought I would get the chance to work on it. But if you had told me that not only I would get the chance to work on it, but that after making like a very, very larval proto AGI thing, that the thing I'd have to spend my time on is trying to like argue with people about whether the number of characters, it said nice things about one person was different than the number of characters that said nice about some other person. If you hand people an AGI and that's what they want to do, I wouldn't have believed you, but I understand it more now. And I do have empathy for it.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. “The trade off of building in public, which is we put out things that are going to be deeply imperfect. We want to make our mistakes while the stakes are low. We want to get it better and better each rep. But the bias of ChatGPT when it launched with 3.5 was not something that I certainly felt proud of. It's gotten much better with GPT-4. Many of the critics, and I really respect this, have said, hey, a lot of the problems that I had with 3.5 are much better in 4. But also, no two people are ever going to agree that one single model is unbiased on every topic. And I think the answer there is just going to be to give users more personalized control, granular control over time.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. “And both like great things that the model can do, new capabilities, and real weaknesses we have to fix. And so this iterative process of putting things out, finding the great parts, the bad parts, improving them quickly, and giving people time to feel the technology and shape it with us and provide feedback, we believe is really important. The trade-off of that.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. “So, two separate things going on here. Number one, some of the things that seem like they should be obvious and easy. These models really struggle with. So, I haven't seen this particular example, but counting characters, counting words, that sort of stuff, that is hard for these models to do well the way they're architected. That won't be very accurate. Second, we are building in public and we are putting out technology because we think it is important for the world to get access to this early, to shape the way it's going to be developed, to help us find the good things and the bad things. And every time we put out a new model in, we just really felt this with GPT-4 this week. The collective intelligence and ability of the outside world helps us discover things we cannot imagine.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. “And somehow out of In justing human knowledge, it's coming up with this reasoning capability, however we want to talk about that. Now, in some senses, I think that will be additive to human wisdom. And in some other senses, you can use GPT-4 for all kinds of things and say it appears that there's no wisdom in here whatsoever.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. “You know, a funny thing about the way we're training these models is. I suspect too much of the processing power for lack of a better word is going into Using the models as a database instead of using the model as a reasoning engine. The thing that's really amazing about this system is that it for some definition of reasoning, and we could of course quibble about it, and there's plenty for which definitions this wouldn't be accurate, but for some definition, it can do some kind of reasoning. And, you know, maybe like the scholars and the experts and the armchair quarterbacks on Twitter would say, no, it can't. You're misusing the word, whatever, whatever. But I think most people who have used the system would say, okay, it's doing something in this direction. And I think that Remarkable, and the thing that's most exciting.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. “Process. Yeah. I think that'll be really helpful. But the one that really matters is we pour all of this effort and money and time into this thing. And then what it comes out with, like, how useful is that to people? How much delight does that bring people? How much does that help them create a much better world, new science, new products, new services, whatever? And that's the one that matters. And understanding for a particular set of inputs, like how much value and utility to provide to people, I think we are understanding that better Do we understand everything about why the model does one thing and not one other thing? Certainly not always, but I would say we are pushing back like that. The fog of war more and more, and we are, you know, it took a lot of understanding to make GPT-4, for example.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. “There's all these different evals that we could talk about. Oh, like how we measure a model as we're training it after we've trained it and say, like, you know, how good is this at some set of tasks”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. “Like any new branch of science. Know that is the ongoing process of discovery in science. But with what we know now, even what we had in that GPT-4 blog post, like, I think we should all just be in awe of how amazing it is that we can even predict to this current level.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. “Isn't that so remarkable, by the way, that there's like, you know, there's like a law of science that lets you predict for these inputs here's what's going to come out the other end. Like here's the level of intelligence you can expect.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. “I think one thing that is not that well understood about creation of this final product, like what it takes to make GBT4, the version of it we actually ship out that you get to use inside of ChatGPT. The number of pieces that have to all come together and then we have to figure out either new ideas or just execute existing ideas really well at every stage of this pipeline. There's quite a lot that goes into it.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. “We spend a huge amount of effort pulling that together from many different sources. There's like a lot of, there are open source databases of information. We get stuff via partnerships. There's things on the internet. It's a lot of our work is building a great data set.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. “To be fair, we understand the science of this part at a much larger Earlier stage than we do the science of creating these large pre trained models in the first place. But yes, less data, much less data.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. “Just because it's much easier to use. It's much easier to get what you want. You get it right more often the first time, and ease of use matters a lot, even if the base capability was there before.”

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  42. “Or at least it's not easy to use, let's say. An RLHF is how we take some human feedback. The simplest version of this is show two outputs, ask which one is better than the other, which one the human raters prefer, and then feed that back into the model with reinforcement learning. And that process works remarkably well, with, in my opinion, remarkably little data to make the model more useful. So RLHF is how we align the model to what humans want it to do.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. “So we train these models on a lot of text data. And in that process, they learn the underlying something about the underlying representations of what's in here or in there. And they can do amazing things. But when you first play with that base model that we call it after you finish training, it can do very well on evals. It can pass tests. It can do a lot of, you know, there's knowledge in there. But it's not very useful.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. “Is a good question. I sort of think of progress as this continual exponential. It's not like we could say here was the moment where AI went from not happening to happen in I'd have a very hard time pinpointing a single thing. I think it's this very continual curve. Will the history books write about GPT one or two or three or four or seven? That's for them to decide. I don't really know. I think If I had to pick some moment from what we've seen so far, I'd sort of pick ChatGPT. It wasn't the underlying model that mattered. It was the usability of it. Both the RLHF and the interface to it.”

    2023-03-25 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. “A system that we'll look back at and say was a very early AI, and it will, it's slow, it's buggy, it doesn't do a lot of things very well, but neither did the very earliest computers And they still pointed a path to something that was going to be really important in our lives, even though it took a few decades to evolve.”

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