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Sarma Melngailis

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“But I think it's more useful to be honest about the contradictions and conflicting feelings because I feel like that's what most people have. And so if you want to. Help people shift a certain way.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I feel good. I don't feel like I can't think of anything that I said that I regret. Maybe there's things that, you know, somebody's going to yell at me because I said something that I said like meat is good or something. The vegan judgment.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. But at the same time, but also because I know the way that you speak and your style, I felt like it was going to feel like a good natural conversation as opposed to sometimes you have conversations where it's like, Anyway, it felt good. I did feel nervous because of what I was walking into. I felt nervous that I was going to sound stupid and boring and everybody would be like, why did he interview her?”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I hope so. Thank you for having me. I kept thinking. I kept thinking that I was going to get a message that was like just kidding. I've listened to your podcast a lot, and so I've certainly felt very intimidated knowing who's sat, if not in this actual chair, in this chair in another location or maybe here. Yes, and”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Especially for Me, yeah. And also, again, it's like I would caution people to be careful about, you know, wanting to go into something deliberately versus. Kind of getting caught up in something or rushed or”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And also, just That thing I was saying about how it's good if you get to know somebody really slowly over a long period of time. It's kind of one of those situations. So, I feel very confident that I'm certain into something where I'm going to be surprised and somebody turns out to be not who they presented themselves to be.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Conversations with some like unknown person or anything, but I feel like people always worry Stepping back into something and I don't have the energy to be sort of.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I feel like I'm like circling back to all these unanswered questions from before, but I didn't marry him. He like convinced me to marry him in this very quick, annoying way. And as if it was something I had to do and I'd be protected and all kinds of weird reasons. And it was just like my response to my agreeing to marry him was. And then I remember being embarrassed at City Hall going to get the license. People who are in love and wanting to get married aren't sitting in City Hall mortified and embarrassed.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Shockingly, like the things that I've done in the spirit of like. Or not wanting to hurt somebody's feelings. That's another dangerous.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And thoughtful about it and making sure that they're not just allowing something to happen. So it's like, you know, men can sometimes be, and I suppose women can be as well, but people can be very persistent sometimes that's a good thing, but it could also be a dangerous thing because sometimes somebody might just, and this has happened to me a lot, where somebody just wears you down and you're like, ugh, fine, you know?”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On the one hand, I feel like it's protective for me to talk about it in some ways. But I also worry because very often I avoid saying anything because for a lot of reasons. One being that people freak out and just assume that I'm going to step into something horrible again because I did step into something horribly destructive again after Mr. Fox. What happened was I allowed something to happen, and so going back to that, what advice would you give to people? I would tell people to be very careful to be deliberate about who they're getting involved with.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not that it's not simple, it's actually quite simple. It's just that, again, there's a large age gap. I am the older one, which in itself isn't a problem because, again, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to, like, if somebody wanted kids in a family, I wouldn't want to hold them back from that. So, if I sort of wanted to be with somebody who wanted those things. Even if I was completely in love with somebody, I would have to kind of like. Hurt indoor the pain to be like, no, I'm gonna keep you from those things, so you should go do those things.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Possibly, yes. There's the restaurant, and there's one lucky duck in that brand, and they're sort of separate but related. And they could each exist independently. I liked it better when they existed together because I felt like they were very complimentary in a lot of ways. And they made sense together. But either one could be done separately without the other.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then people have said to me that Leon achieved some kind of immortality via. In the documentary. And then I might, I don't understand this world at all, but I might do like an NFT thing related to Leon's image, which would be another way of. Kind of immortalizing his image, at least. I mean, it's potentially in progress. Of a crazy leap, but”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, I put the logo on my arm. That's kind of how strongly I felt about it. And so when I did that and around that time and all of that time, I felt really, really strongly that. Quietly Because it feels like. A little bit bold. Quietly felt really. Almost with a certainty that it was going to be something really big and it was growing and growing, and all signs were pointing towards there. I was just sort of stalled and couldn't figure out the logistics and then enter Mr. Fox. So”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mistakes you make. I want to live to write those things. And I also felt really strongly about my What I and everybody in the business had built. And So a big part of me wants to resurrect the brand. Because when I felt really strongly about it, like I had that feeling that this was. This was going to be a thing that I wanted to build and grow and could have a really positive impact. And outlast me.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, I had previously thought that I would want to go to Vegas one day just to cross that off my list. It's not like I was like, ooh, one day I want to go to Vegas. It was just like, I imagined I would only go there once just to see it and then be done with it.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, but none of the, You look at the subsidies that are given to all the inputs to the meat industry, like the grain and soy and whatnot, and then to the meat and dairy industries and all the subsidies that prop up those industries and allow those products to be cheap and sustainable from a business perspective, not environmental. It's government subsidies. So, what if we took all that away? And then also, what if we gave that to, you know, the kale and hemp and fresh greens? Farmers And made those foods more affordable and then had meat reflect as actual true cost. Then, you know, then people would just eat more vegetables and less meat because of the cost.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, but I think if we wiped out all the government subsidies, it would be a completely different story. Because why are vegetables so expensive?”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot of things do things differently there, but. So, you know, it's just these things are complicated, but So it's not about like, oh, I don't want that in my body. It's sort of like, what? Where did it come from and what's going on here? And I think that. Like, if you just followed Joe Rogan's Instagram, there's sort of a bit of a glorification of meat that. Because I listened to enough that I heard the one where he talked it was a recent one where he was talking about Anthony Bourdain. And in that conversation, I think it was that one, he explained that he sort of did it in summary, so I feel like he talked about it in the past, but did all this research. Came to the conclusion based on all his research, came to the conclusion that he was either going to be vegetarian or shoot his own meat”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Somebody shooting an elk or bringing it home and eating it. Like my, you know, like I've eaten elk jerky and things like that from, that's one of those situations where I wouldn't morally have a problem with it. And for me, it's also, I'm not one of those people where I think like, ew, I wouldn't eat meat. It's more like, I don't want to add to the consumption of it. And I wouldn't want to eat sort of like the factory farmed meat. Necessarily, unless I'm in prison and it's otherwise going to get thrown away”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, that's another complicated layer. There's like the Maui venison. All the deer in Hawaii. I might have gotten Maui venison treats for Leon. But they're hunting those dear. Is a way of preserving Yeah. So, I mean, these things are complicated, but that's why I don't have a problem with.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I don't think, yeah, people think that I would object to. Hunting for sport, I think, is grotesque. But if you're hunting and then you're going to eat the entire animal. And you're hunting in a way where it's kind of like. That animal lived a free and happy life until that moment in the same way that the animal lived a free and happy moment lived a free and happy life, or we don't know, maybe they were depressed, but they lived a free life until like the lion came and took it down Is a human shooting an animal for food, somehow more tragic or horrible than a lion attacking an elk.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I just think about it a lot. Like our current food system, which involves a system that everybody has sort of accepted and normalized Say aliens did come down. At us and realized that we're a particularly good source of whatever fuel they need. So then they imprisoned us all in cages that were like the equivalent of sardines and jammed it in an elevator. And then we were bred. And we would get sick and we'd go crazy and we'd do the equivalent of pecking and then we'd get abused and then grotesquely and brutally killed. And that was like our entire lives. And so if aliens came down and started and did all of that, we would have to be okay with that. Which is something that my Said to me after watching this movie called Our Daily Bread many years ago. But it's an interesting way to think about it because”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's like in their bodies when they're killed, which is an interesting thing to think about. Yeah, I clearly struggle with the ethics of.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With that guy and that small plane did the other day and like leap over and was able to take control of the plane. But I mean, like a commercial flight. So it's like if you're going to die, you're going to die and it's just your time and all you can do is hope that. I would probably prefer to have as little awareness about it as possible. You know, it's like you'd rather have somebody You're going to get shot, you'd rather have somebody shoot you in the back of the head and you didn't see it coming and just boom lights out versus somebody holding a gun to your head and then you're going to feel all this fear and have to like feel all of that. Which also made me think of. Animals and animals suffering in the way that some people argue that. Because of the conditions and the fear that that's like”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like, I don't know, walking down a dark street at night, but I noticed that at the time I didn't really have those fears because I was like, what do I have to lose? Like, who cares? I don't have anything anymore, what do I have to lose? So I certainly feel much less that way. But something about those feelings. Lingered where I'm less afraid of it. Or just less afraid of it, but hoping it's not some sort of a gruesome way. I mean, some people are really afraid of flying, and I feel like, well, statistically, it's extremely safe. And if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. There's nothing you can do. There's really nothing you can do.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Less so than I was before. I think I wrote about that and I put this letter, dear Mr. Fox, online, which I never intended to do, but I did because of all the misconceptions about the film and our relationship. And so I put this thing up online that I'd written on my phone on multiple subway rides. And at the end of it, I talk about, because especially then when it was the height of everything was gone and what do I have to live for, I sort of noticed and wrote about how differently I felt about things whereas I used to be afraid I used to have like a healthy fear of, you know, being pushed in front of a train because that happens, you know, in New York or anywhere. You know, I had a healthy fear of”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I just think it's one of those things that you just know it's going to happen and it's just part of life. And I think it's one of those pains that's... It's painful, but you just kind of have to go through it. And what's the alternative? You're not going to, it's like saying you would never want to fall in love because of the heartbreak that's going to inevitably come So, some people do that. They just avoid”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's scary, but then I also just try to understand that it's inevitable. I mean, yeah Assuming I'm still around, then, um. I think one of the things about having adopting a dog or getting or caring for an animal unless it's one of those animals that lives a really long time, I just found out that parrots live an extraordinarily long time. Um,”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I'm not used to it. And so I people always say that dogs have, like that dogs have attachment issues or get separation anxiety, but in my case, at least it's like, I think he's fine on the one that. He's like, fine. I'm the one that gets anxious about it being away from him.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am optimistic. And I also feel like part of the reason I like having these conversations is because I feel like people will learn stuff from my shitty experiences to avoid going through their own shitty experience. And I've heard a ton of that from a lot of women and some men. Writing to me saying that they went through something similar and nobody understood. Know, my story helped them or might help them get somebody else out of a situation. So making it useful feels good.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like nobody died. And sometimes, when I think about my own challenges. They feel sort of inconsequential in comparison to other things going on in the world. So You know, like, yes, it's hard being humiliated or it's hard to have people say nasty things about you on. Twitter, Instagram, but really who cares? Because that's just words and things. And I'm not fleeing my home and watching people get shot.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I feel like a lot of things are like that. And I guess I could optimistically hope that there are good things down the road where I'll think, well, I'm here and I'm grateful for it and therefore I'm grateful for the things that got me here, which include a lot of dark things. It's hard to say because a lot of people were hurt in my case. But I am optimistic that I can make those things up. They're also hurts that were, I mean, in some cases emotionally, but also very much financial. And I feel like those are. Numbers and the employees were all paid back, so anybody else that is out money because of everything that happened isn't somebody that's not able to Feed themselves. Most of those people have plenty of money, and it's like not a big deal, but I still want to repay all of it. And it's numbers. It's not.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think, yes, I think one could argue that's the biggest mistake. But then at the same time, you never know because when I was in a sort of a dark relationship that then led to the restaurant, am I having the one Lucky Duck brand? So I felt like That darkness, it's like if you married a horribly abusive person but you had a beautiful child and then you go on and you have this beautiful child and you think, well, if I hadn't been with that horribly abusive person, I wouldn't have this beautiful child. So I wouldn't go undo it.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, like one obvious thing could be the day that I let Anthony Strangers in the door if I had instead, you know, if at any time early on I had instead just pushed him out, you know, that my life would be wildly different. It's hard to.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and maybe that's what I'm really crying about when I cry at these little videos or something. I don't know. But I'm glad for it because I feel like it always feels like kind of a relief.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Interestingly, though, in actual horrifically tragic things, or when they applied to me, I might not cry and then people find that unusual. That was in the film that was my sister or my father described that when my parents got divorced, I didn't cry. Whereas my sister bawled her eyes out, and I didn't cry at all ever, and I just didn't say anything or want to talk about it. Know like when I was sentenced to jail, I didn't cry. So, a lot of times when something really big happens, I get a little bit weirdly. Don't know, but I very often”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was like a Know I looked a little bit at Instagram and saw, what was it? Very often they're like these little animal rescue stories or whatever. But this was this guy Matt who used to be my trainer years ago. And put this little montage video to music. That was interesting. If there hadn't been music, I probably wouldn't have cried. But it was showing his wife having their second child. Not showing it, but like the sort of before and then, you know, the baby in her arms right afterwards and then bringing the baby home. It was this very short little clip. But set to music And I watched that and started to cry. But I didn't sob or anything. So I think I cry easily.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. And I think for me, one of the things that would have scared me about having kids is the chaos of it. Or not being able to handle it. But I think that's just me, not most people.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Moving forward with relationships being really careful to understand why you're there or if you're repeating a pattern. That's something that is sort of cliche, but I feel like it's very, I mean, aren't clichees are things that are true? They're just repeated a lot. But anyway, the idea that people repeat patterns, right? Think that's very true. And so to be aware of that and to figure it out sooner rather than later so you don't keep stepping into the same. Thing over and over again”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, but I think self awareness is key, but I also think There's some of those things where, like, people kind of have to learn their own lessons, but I think in part because I never had kids and I never wanted kids. I feel like through my book I keep thinking that I want a lot of the lessons that I learned to be. Useful to other people, particularly younger people. And in many cases, younger females. To maybe understand themselves a little better along the way. Because I think that a lot of mistakes that I made and things that happened or things that I did that I'm embarrassed about. Things that I stepped into that I wouldn't have otherwise stepped into or allowed to happen were a result of. Many cases like insecurity, like a lack of confidence and And I think in the context of”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Before you finished the sentence, I was about to say read a lot of books. Because you said, what advice would you give to young people today? And I was like, read a lot of books. And then you get to the restaurant part.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If it was just like something about their character that's challenging, you could appreciate that or understand it. But it's not something that they're intentionally trying to use to deceive you. I think red flags, it's like, Guess it's more about manipulation,or, like somebody's kind of extreme dysfunction or something would be red flags. But I think there could be things that are quirky or weird or even dark about somebody that are acceptable.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think bringing it back to the relationship thing is wanting to. Understand and accept those things about somebody else. I mean, it's sort of cliche to say that you can't change somebody. You don't want to also like try to change yourself for somebody, but you can sort of figure things out and be willing to make adjustments and navigate for the sake of something working. And sometimes that comes from understanding, which might require a lot of effort. Open mindedness if somebody's kind of very different from you.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But whatever you were asking him about whether something could be accomplished, and he said yes, but not in his lifetime, but he's going to keep pushing it forward anyway. So I felt like that was a really Put so much of yourself into something just to kind of move the baton forward for humanity was a Struck me as an admirable thing where there's no great reward in terms of you're going to see that invention happen or you're going to see Mars colonized or whatever it is. But you're willing to put in all the work and brain power to try to push it along.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was interesting that I found admirable was this sort of like a duty to humanity I think you asked about it not about person, but about the work. And so it was like To put all this energy, to try to kind of move things forward, knowing that he will probably die before it gets there. You're talking about something related to the science Rocket He”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So the other person might be really good at a musical instrument that requires a lot of practice. And you're not interested in playing that musical instrument. Appreciate the beauty of the music and understand that that person is getting something out of it. So you would be excited when they get a chance to practice or whatnot. So it's. Kind of”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think that's possible, but it's possible for that to be the case. Somebody Like, might have an appreciation for what you're doing, but isn't that what that person's going to go spend their time on themselves?”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and understanding it in a way that you want what's best for the other person, not in a way that you would sacrifice yourself for them necessarily, but in a very healthy way. So I think a healthy relationship is where, you know, you want what's best for the other person. So I always find it tragic. Like, say, You started dating somebody who then would get jealous or upset if you were spent too much time working on something, right? But that's like your life. So if you're working on some robotics thing and you're having some breakthrough and so you just want to spend a lot of time wherever you spend a lot of time doing those things. And then that other person got all bent out of shape and it became like a competition. That to me seems very unhealthy because if somebody if it was If it was like a genuine healthy love.”
2022-05-23 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #288 – Sarma Melngailis: Bad Vegan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source