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  1. 2 p.m. would be my last. Ideally, I wouldn't drink coffee after two, but plenty of times I do. Especially if I haven't had midday coffee, then I worry I'm going to get a headache.

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  2. Well, it's pro Huberman if it's in the afternoon or the evening, except for these bright lights. If they were lower down, if they were down below, then they're hitting the tops of our eyes. But it's the light coming from above that's... Destructive at night because it's hitting the bottom of your eyes. So it's like mimicking the sun. Just signaling your body that it's time to be awake, so as much as possible. So I do this in the evenings, I shut off all the overhead lights, I try to dim the lights as much as I can and I turn on like a lamp versus an overhead light.

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  3. Red wine, and we sat there in order to ate it, ordered another one, ate it, ordered another one. I think we had like six plates. And I remember sitting there thinking, I could just eat this until my stomach bursts. And so if this is like, if somebody was, what's the last, I would just want to sit there and eat plate after play it after plate.

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  4. Yeah, it was really good. This is just a funny that we surrounded it. But Bar Hamon was. This tiny little bar, and I went in there once with Tobin late, and I don't know why we ended up going there, but it was right before they closed and drank red wine and they had tomato bread. And it's just like a baguette, although it's a Spanish, whatever. It's like a bread like a baguette, like a thin that they toast. And I think they rub it with garlic. And they don't even put tomato slices on it. It's like they rub it in the tomato juices all over it. Was just bread and tomato juice and probably some garlic flavor and really good salt.

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  5. No, it was pure food and wine was on Irving Place and then the kitchen connected to the one Lucky Duck juice bar, which had an entrance on 17th Street. So it was kind of like this L shape. And then there was a huge garden in the back on the corner was Casamono and Barjamon, which was Mario Batale and Joe Bastianic were behind that. And it was very focused on Meat, but also like organ meats and strange unusual

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  6. I was eating something once, and I had the thought that if I was going to die. I would come here and order plate after plate of this and eat this.

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  7. But there was something special. So people ask me about opening a restaurant, I say, I don't want to get back into the restaurant business unless it's the same restaurant in the same space. Because there was something about that space that felt, I guess, felt magical, for lack of a better word and the energy of a lot of the people there. And I think that people really cared about it. For whatever reason, there was an energy about the place

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  8. And when dishes were developed, this is when I was there on my own. So it was opened with Matthew and Jeffrey and then within a year Matthew was out and Jeffrey was still involved as like the corporate sort of side of it. But then over time, I separated from that infrastructure as well and then was completely on my own. And in part, I did that because I was growing one lucky duck on the side and that was growing and growing and growing. And I knew there was something there. And yet the two businesses were completely intertwined. And so potential investors would come at me and they would see this very messy situation where I owned one lucky duck and Jeffrey Chattero owned the restaurant. And how do we move forward from there? And then people would say, I should shut down the restaurant and just focus on one lucky duck. And I wanted them all to be together under one umbrella and to move forward.

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  9. Over time, it got easier and easier, and then also I had, you know, it was, I wasn't coming up with new dishes. It was the people that worked there. So I feel like if I could take credit for something, it would be recognizing talent.

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  10. Calcium and other minerals and commons. There's probably something there that I needed because you'd think as a little kid, I wouldn't be drawn to oily fish and bones and eggshell

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  11. Anyway, I think these things like shift and change, and there's not like a right answer, and then there's something where it's like one person might do well on something, another person doesn't. Or you might do well on something for like, I might, you know, maybe if I aid a bunch of liver, I'd feel better because I'm getting vitamins that I'm lacking. But then once I get them, I'm fine and I don't need that anymore. And I could potentially get those from other sources. Yeah, when I was little, I used to crave. My mother said I craved, not craved, but she said I would always eat sardines, but I wouldn't eat the pieces. I would only eat the whole ones, which have the bones in them. And I used to chew on chicken bones and try to eat eggshells when I was like a taught little. So I think all of those things have.

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  12. And so I suppose I could have investigated it and thought, like, well, what's in there? Is it like vitamin K, vitamin D? What is it in the grass fed butter? Because it wasn't regular, but like regular butter, ew, no. But like this grass-fed butter, like I felt like I just wanted. I needed it. So there's probably something in there, and maybe I could have gone and just taken a lot of vitamin K and then not eaten the butter.

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  13. Where I was crying, I know. Now I have to say it where I couldn't get enough Know where it started, like whose house I was at, or whatever, but grass fed butter. I just was like, I could tell that my body wanted whatever was there.

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  14. Also, I think it's fascinating how our bodies intuitively know if you're like quiet enough and you think about like what you're craving. As long as it's not You're craving like some processed junkie food that's probably something that's not quite functional. But if you're craving, sometimes I'll be like Most have avocado, or like I'll want to eat an entire parsley salad. And then it's happened. I went through a phase where, and here I'm like, do I say this out loud? I went through a phase of

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  15. Or, you know, like I've been drunk at a party and eaten a bunch of stuff that one would think I would never eat. It's not like I ran to the store and bought it or went to a restaurant

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  16. Dark is the leg and the thigh. And it was cooked surprisingly well. And so I would always eat it. I don't know. I mean, It's there, and it's not from a health perspective, one could say, well, that's probably the shittiest of the shitty chickens that are full of antibiotics and hormones and terrible things. And so it's not optimal from that point of view. But it's like if it's otherwise going to be thrown in the trash

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  17. Like at Rikers, there was most of the meat there was kind of weird and fake, but there was like a chicken every Thursday and Sunday. There was actual chicken like the leg.

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  18. I just think that there's no kind of one right answer. You can look at it from just a health perspective, and then you can also look at it from like a morality and ethics perspective, and then also what's the impact on the environment. And all of those things are important. And I think that I've watched a lot of films and things. For a while right after that, I might think, oh my god, I can't believe I ate this thing last week, and now I'm going to go back to being 100% vegan. Because I just watched this thing and it's fresh in my mind, and now I'm thinking about it in a certain way. But then over time, that sort of fades. And then you start to get a bit more loose. For me, I. I will end up eating a lot of things that. Aren't vegan usually in the context where I'm not adding to the consumption of it

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  19. Because there's people who are vegan their entire lives and they're incredibly healthy and they thrive, and there's athletes, and there's people like Rich Roll, who I like who's vegan and an athlete. But it might be something where that's working really well for him, but it wouldn't work well for somebody else. And I think there's also an element of people who try these things and then feel really good or feel really bad. And they make a conclusion based on that initial period of time when it might be something where it makes you feel really good temporarily, but then over time, you're going to be depleted of certain things. And then we also live in a world where like our soil is depleted and there's a lot of processing that takes out of foods a lot of things that we need.

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  20. Yeah, and I think that probably everybody's different. And so in the same way that some people tolerate, like some people can't tolerate nightshades or some people can't tolerate certain spices or some people can't tolerate gluten or some people thrive off of this or that. And I've heard it said and discussed that. There's a great deal to sort of what your body's used to, what your ancestors ate, where you, where It seems like the human body is pretty adaptable, so you can adapt to eating a certain type of a Food So that if your family comes from a certain part of the world where certain things aren't grown or Or more meat is eaten, or

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  21. Likewise, I think that it's people who are very adamantly one way or the other I think that After all my years in this world. In this world in general, and also consuming an enormous amount of inputs and podcasts about health. Like I love listening to different points of view. So I love when somebody's arguing vegan and then somebody's arguing carnivore or even with other issues. I like listening to what other people, you know, opposing sides assuming they're both intelligent, interesting sources.

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  22. So, nothing was cooked over roughly 118 degrees. It was this very like. There were people who are hardcore raw Buddhists, and there's also people who are hardcore vegans. And I was never any of those things. So I think what we did

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  23. Yes, very. Well, I think because it's extremely competitive and the standards are so high. So I think that's why there are so many good restaurants in New York because if they're not good, they're not going to survive. So even like you could walk into what looks like a hole in the wall and it's going to have amazing food. Happens a lot.

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  24. Don't mean our sociopath, exactly. And I feel like it's going to be this thing where now everybody's going to start calling everybody else's sociopath. And it's like, oh, you know, and right now everybody calls everything gaslighting. If somebody's lying, it's not gaslighting.

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  25. People are overusing gaslighting. And I worry that that would happen with sociopathy. Like, I think people need to understand sociopathy. I think it's. Critical for humanity that people understand it.

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  26. I don't mean it that way at all, but I get it because sometimes now when I say now I almost have to put air quotes when I say something's triggering because I feel like I'm using a word that's now like Overused or Used unless so now when I say something is triggering, it's like.

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  27. He said he's talking about his experience, and he said, if they had told me to kill somebody, I would have, and that in that moment made me cry, but I also felt like I understand that and not that if Mr. Fox had told me to kill somebody, I don't think I would have. But again, I understand how it could get to that point. So that makes me feel like with her. I would be curious what Steve Hawsen would think kind of analyzing the entire situation because it's hard to understand that unless you've been in it. And I understand with him how he could have said that if they had told me to kill somebody, I would have. That's pretty intense. I mean, that's pretty extreme.

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  28. There's a psychologist that I'm friends with that I got to know after I watched him on Leah Remini's show. So Leah Remini is the actress who was in Scientology got out and has really been speaking out about it and trying to expose what they're all about and how diabolical that organization is. And a lot of people are exposing them and doing this type of work. And so she had this guy on her show who was in the Moonies and his name is Steve Hawsen. And so he was an occult. And then he got out again by extreme circumstances. He got in a car accident and almost died. And that's what ended up getting him out of the cult that he was in. But really smart guy was targeted when he was young, got pulled into the moonies. But watching this interview of him on her show

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  29. Important to explore these things and be open to them. Like broad brush painting her as a horrible person. I mean, because people could say that based on things they've read or things that I did, that like I'm a horrible person. And it's very different because what she did involved young girls whose lives were destroyed. But I think that Could be a bit open to understanding how somebody could be manipulated.

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  30. Like, we're so subservient to him in this kind of astonishing way that seems really weird and abnormal. And yet I think she had a lot of money and connections. And I think she lost the money, but had all the connections. Either way, there was a lot that a ton that Epstein gained via his relationship with her, like a ton. So it makes sense that he would have manipulated her. He manipulates everybody. So he, without question, I think one could argue he definitely manipulated her. And again, I want to be like careful not to be. Saying, like, that's an excuse for what she did. I just think that.

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  31. What I listened to in that podcast about her relationship with her father. How her father died, her things about her childhood, and then Epstein coming into her life and basically kind of pushing all those buttons and becoming like the father figure. And so she would be in a position of kind of always wanting his approval. And just the way that Things that are described about the way that she

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  32. The information that was conveyed in the Vicky Ward piece was fascinating to me because it's clear that at the very least, it's like all of these things could be true. She could maybe be not enough of a good person to have, you know, horribly victimized these young girls and destroy their lives. But I feel like I'm going to get bashed for saying this, but she could have in some way of... Not quite known what she was doing or been a bit out of her mind.

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  33. I mean, it was like a weekend, and I basically was cleaning and doing other things and walking Leon and listening to it. And I got through it pretty quickly. But I got really fascinated by it because, um, I don't know, but I think I feel. Like, I find the whole situation gut wrenching because I think. Jeffrey Epstein is a straight up, like straight up sociopath, like, no question. Everybody's calling her evil. For her to have enabled and done a lot of the things that she did. Potentially require One might say that it could require a lack of empathy to be able to do those things knowingly. But at the same time,

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  34. So I only know what I know from the inputs which are the Vicky Ward, it's one of the podcasts, it's a narrative podcast. So it's like a It's like an audio kind of a documentary or journalistic piece that she did and put out. I thought it was really, really well done. I think it's called Chasing Galaine. And I listened to that whole thing. I didn't intend to listen to it all in one stretch.

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  35. I mean, he did record people, and there were recordings, so I listened to an interview with a woman who, I mean, was a girl back then. Maybe she was 15 or 16 back then. And subsequently, years later was able to see some of the video of, I mean, I think that's a verifiable thing that there were video cameras all over his house.

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  36. Yeah, and with Epstein, certainly, you know, he was known to have cameras everywhere. And so if he got any of these people on camera doing something compromising, an all-very powerful people, then he's got them. And I think he was also very smart to do that, to target people of both parties so that politically that he was able to maintain his power, like no matter. Like, nobody wanted him to be totally exposed because then people, a lot of people would be exposed.

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  37. Had an enormous amount of money and somehow very quickly turned over management of it to Jeffrey Epstein. And so people wonder, like, why would he do that? That's insane. And then other people have commented about that relationship. Like it was as if he was under Jeffrey's spell. Observers would say, I couldn't understand it. It was as if he was under his spell. And so somebody observing me and Mr. Fox could have possibly said the same thing about me. But it's a bit different because it wasn't all charm. I think Epstein used his charm and then was probably very, very, very crafty and getting another thing that people like him do and cults do also is to get you somehow compromised. Then they've got you, so I think

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  38. Otherwise, normally functioning capacity for rational thought, and they sort of overwhelm that with their charm. So, you know, when you look at, I think it was like James Mattis invested a bunch of money with Elizabeth Holmes and all these people were involved with her. And nobody really did their due diligence where they just sort of trusted her. And Jeffrey Epstein, I think it's still unclear where he got all of his money, but the guy Wexner. Wexner?

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  39. So he's playing a role, but he's doing it so well that he fools all these people. And the things that people would, in hindsight, say about him are just the same things that people say about it's like you hear the same things over and over again. You hear the same things said about those people who were taken in by Elizabeth Holmes is that they were like it was as if he was under a spell. It was as if I was under a spell is something you hear a lot. And so it's like they have this powerful charm that's almost over it's overwhelming in that they overwhelm your better judgment or they overwhelm your Like normal.

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  40. I am probably not one of those people, but I did not ever meet Geoffrey Epstein, but he seems very straightforwardly, you know, just a classic. The way he was able to charm people, the way he could step into these roles. I think he was teaching at Dalton and then just kind of the way he would get himself into the academic crowd within Harvard. And I think also MIT.

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  41. Yes, and sadly, I think I would have. And so I felt a lot of. Compassion Those who didn't yell at him and leave or didn't storm out because I think What happens in those situations is. You know, there's all kinds of uncertainty in the moment, and you sort of freeze, and then you'll, if I'm probably one of those people that would sit there and somehow in the moment, Without clarity, just instinctively feel like somehow I must have done something wrong and it's my fault. And like I led him on and Or just being afraid, and then you don't know how to deal with it. And so you freeze. So I think that. Know if you're somebody that maybe was raised differently or you have a lot of self-confidence or you might have reacted differently and kind of pushed them away and stormed out.

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  42. No, it was weird. It was out on the street, and we had this really strange interaction. And knowing what I know now, it was eerie and also like Hetty contacted me after that and made it seem like he could have done something for me. Like, would I have been? Say he said, Oh, I'm going to finance your whole expansion or something and come to meet me at this hotel. And then I go to that hotel. And then he's like, come up to the room. And then I would have been like, ugh.

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  43. No, I never met them, but they're also very much like this sort of Upper East Side crowd. I did meet Harvey Weinstein once that made me have all kinds of interesting thoughts later.

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  44. I think this is an especially fascinating case because, and I have listened to podcasts about the Epstein situation. And there was one that was more focused on her by Vicki Ward that I would definitely listen to. Vicki Ward is a journalist. I think she'd written an article about Jeffrey Epstein for Vanity Fair, so she got to know Jeffrey Epstein. And then she knew Gallaine Maxwell from being sort of part of the Social circle in which they would have overlapped.

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  45. Right, and there was a lot of beauty there as well. I mean, People being, well, again, depends on the definition of love, but people being incredibly generous and kind to each other. Sometimes people singing at night. There was just a lot of. And then there was a lot of hilarious stuff. It's just all there. There's like tragic things. Interesting things. Lot of people with mental health issues, which can be difficult to witness.

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  46. Yes, but Um I never felt terrified there. You know, one of my friends, the bathroom is the scary place because they don't have cameras in the... The bathroom, so that's sort of a one has to watch out there. And I did one of my friends who I, one of the people I was friends with there, she did get beat up a bit in the bathroom one day. Lot of weird shit happened in the bathroom. But it was from a if you're interested in human behavior and psychology and it can be fascinating to kind of sit there and watch.

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  47. Well, it's like it'd be like trying to meditate in the middle of a circus or Crazy circumstances because you're never alone. There's nowhere to be alone, and there's always

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  48. My mind, personally, I think I was. I was surprised. Well, I adapted and then how it was able to, and then I think I sort of took it next level when one of the books somebody sent me was The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer. It's very much about observing your mind. Kind of help take it to next level.

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  49. Yeah, there are areas there with cells, but a lot of the areas there are rooms with 50 beds. And they're about three feet apart from each other. So during COVID, there was certainly no social distancing. And that just felt kind of sickening, especially because. So many of the people are there for. Nonviolent things or drug addiction related or mental health issues.

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  50. So, there's all of these tragic cases, but then there was also while I was there, I mean, if I'd had any money, I would have been wanting to bail people out left and right. And then in some cases, I think there was a woman there who snored really loud and her bail was $500. And I was like, I wish I had a bail. She just wanted to bail her out, so because I'm pretty sensitive to sounds and being in a room with 50 people inevitably.

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