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Scott Horton

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“And this was his orders to the officer corps. And then I got to read Liz Wolf in Reason Magazine every morning telling me that Israel's goal is fighting Hamas? Benjamin Netanyahu said in May we are destroying all of their homes so they have nowhere to go back to so that we can force them all to leave. And I gotta read Liz Wolf in Reason magazine. Tell him me that Lakud means well, and they're just trying to protect themselves from armed terrorists? When they are explicitly and deliberately slaughtering children, shooting toddlers in the head, shooting pregnant women in the head. Bombing refugees' tents with 2,000 pound bombs.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They are gooks, they are Goyum, grasshoppers that means it's OK to kill them. All of them The Prime Minister gave a speech to the officer corps, where he said the enemy is Amalek out of a three thousand year old Bible story where Jehovah supposedly told the ancient Hebrews to wipe out a tribe called the Amalek and kill every last man, woman, and child and baby and oxen, and wipe them off the face of the earth. Now Lex, nobody thinks that God whispered to Benjamin Netanyahu and said the Palestinians are Amalek. Right, this is just a bunch of crap, even if you believe every single word of the Bible as literal inspired word of God from back then. That ain't got a thing to do with this now other than a cynical, lying, thieving murderer invoking a god who says. It's okay to kill children, that you must, that you are commanded to kill them all.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To the same body part, one day they're all shot in the genitals, children. The next day they're all shot in the elbow. The next day they're all shot in the knee or in the heart. And what's happening here is the Israelis are shooting them for fun for target practice, just like the Nazis in Schindler's list, killing the little girl in the red coat. That's what they're doing. They're burying them alive. They're starving them to death and then forcing them into mobs and then machine gunning them. Right, if this was a movie you'd say it was two over the top, it's too fake it can't be true. If anybody leaned left and they heard this about the communists, they'd say no, it's right wing propaganda. I know, dude, this is how they are. This is exactly how they are. And it's exactly how they treat the Palestinians. They do not recognize their humanity. They are NWOs.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Men were hanged to death from the neck for this at Nuremberg. Murdering prisoners This is if you seen Schindler's list there's a scene in there which I don't even know if this really happened or not probably did. What the hell? Or if this is just Spielberg shows one of the concentration camp guards shooting the juice for target practice. That's what they do. There's numerous reports coming in in just the last couple of weeks that there has clearly been, well, I don't know I shouldn't say numerous I saw there's a British doctor saying this and then there was someone who said that he confirmed it although I wasn't sure how serious he was or not I shouldn't take that but it seemed like a very credible report in the first place and in fact the British doctor is at least claiming that he's passing on reports for other doctors and what are they seeing they're seeing Palestinian children who all have the same signature type of wound.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he says, they say, Oh, no, we're just shooting over their heads and shooting at their feet and shooting behind them to direct them. Can you imagine directing civilian traffic that way with machine gun fire? So what happens is they all die. He says they're coming down this thing. They're shooting over the heads of these guys. But behind them is a hill side where people are coming down there. So then when the sun finishes coming up, there's just roses, just dead bodies everywhere. And then he says, And the Israelis go, Oh, Hamas did it. Come on, man. Like, yeah. Would be Hamas in Bosnia did some false flag attacks in 1995. That's not what's happening here, okay? These people are being slaughtered, starving people are being brought in and mastered. As Tucker Carlson rightly said,”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And when the mob of Palestinians coming down for their food, when they can see that people on the edges of the crowd are being shot and killed, they know that, oh, I guess that's where the line is. That's how they're supposed to know where the invisible lines are drawn. Aguilar said he asked them, why don't you just put up a sign? This is go this way. And they go, no, that's too expensive. So instead, they shoot at them not just with fully automatic rifles, but with artillery and with tank rounds. They blast them to hell, man. In the name of crowd control.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then, but from the IDS point of view, they're supposed to go this way, and then they're supposed to go that way, they're supposed to go over this hill and then come around this way, and then you line up at the thing. But there's no signs anywhere, and there's no little metal barricades like Black Sabbath show or something for people to follow. So how do they direct the Palestinians' foot traffic? With machine guns, with artillery and tank rounds. There's an invisible line. You'll know you cross it when I blow your head off.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They open the food place early in the morning for this riot where everybody's supposed to come and rush and grab the food. So people come walking and they force them to walk through war zones to get to the places where there's firing going on anyway. Force them to walk for, I don't know how many miles this is, 12 kilometers, so 10 miles. It was a hell of a walk, man. I don't know, eight miles, something still incredible long walk for poor hungry, starving people. Get all the way there”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is, and this has been explained in Haaretz by the way. They have senior officials and army people talking to Haaretz about this. This is the most important liberal daily in Israel, the Israeli New York Times basically has firsthand reporting from enlisted and officers, perpetrators saying that, yes, it's true we do this. Aguilera tells the story the best and has some video and shows. What it is, is this.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The entire organization. And as this guy Aguilera explains, they had, I believe, I can't remember the number. Do you remember if he said they had 40 sites around? I believe he said they had 40 sites around the strip where they were delivering aid to people. When they closed that down, the Israelis replaced it with this new And they only have four stations. And three of them are near the Egyptian border. And only one of them is what they call the Narazim corridor. I believe it's pronounced. That's like halfway through the strip. The people of the north have nothing. There's no aid coming into the people of the North at all. They're starving to death up there. And he says there's only these four places. And then here's what we're talking about when we're talking about killing the starving people as they line up parade.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The story is that they demonized UNRWA, which was the UN Relief Refugee Relief Agency. What refugees? Well, 80% of the population of the Gaza Strip are refugees from what we call Israel proper. The Israeli Jews stole that land from them. That's their land. That's why they live in Gaza. They're not from Gaza. 80% of them are not from Gaza, or they are, but their parents and grandparents and great-grandparents were not. They are refugees there. So ever since then, UNRWA has been there to provide humanitarian relief for these poor people who've been cut off from their country on the other side of the razor wire. And so UNRWA was in charge of distributing the aid. But then they lied, of course, as ridiculous propaganda that UNRWA had been involved in the October 7th attack. And there may have been one guy who had worked for them before who said something or maybe even participated to some small degree. But it was a ridiculous charge against”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Rangers, but below Delta, but that's second tier special operations, Army Special Operations Forces, the Green Berets, been fighting in the Terror Wars all these years, fought in Iraq. I don't know how old the guy is if he fought in Iraq War II. He's certainly fought in Iraq War III and in Afghanistan and had been deployed 12 times, Tucker said, including to the stands in Central Asia and Vietnam. I don't know who he's killing in Vietnam. Maybe just training there. I don't know. He also did an interview on breaking points with Sagar and Crystal. Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned that.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Soviet communism is the equivalent, it's the moral equivalent of Soviet communism is what it is, Lex. It's the worst thing in the world. It's the most barbarian regime in the world. Far worse than the ChICOMs. I mean, they have to lie their ass off to try to pretend that Beijing treats the Uyghurs this way. Give me a break. The Uyghurs are kings compared to what's happening to the Palestinians right now. And the only thing that makes Israel the second worst government in the world is the United States of America has the power to do this, to help them do this to the Palestinians, but also do it to the Iraqis and the Syrians and the Yemenis and whoever else Israel says as well. But this is pure barbarianism. And I strongly urge, I know that you've seen it. I strongly urge your audience to go watch this interview of this man Anthony Aguilera, who was a special forces guy.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Who have been killed probably 100,000 of them have been killed now, including torrentish shreds, including they bomb their tents, they bury them alive, and they quite literally Heard them in to narrow yards. After starving them almost to death and bring them in to a narrow area, then they open the gate all at once. They don't bring them in through some kind of checkpoint. They make them. They just open the gate so that the people rush in a mad mob rush to grab whatever food they can. And then these people are literally starving. So the spirit of friendship and cooperation falls aside, and now I will stab you so that I can feed my kid today, dude. And so people, it's the hunger games out there or worse, whatever analogy that you have to.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Benjamin Netanyahu is backed by the unlimited budget and military power of the global superpower, and all of his myriad civilian and military intelligence services. Hamas and the Palestinians are pawns on his board. That's the fact. And if it's okay to kill Palestinians because they are nearby Hamas, then it's okay to kill Benjamin Netanyahu because he is literally not figuratively their greatest ally and in a direct sense, not like O America is Osama bin Laden's indispensable ally. I mean literally he sent Massad two Cutter to demand that they give more money to Hamas over and over and over again and his own men ratted him out for it, okay? That's treason. He's the one who should hang from the end of a rope, not the people of the Gaza Strip.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, I just had to make that point because that's important that this is absolutely true, okay? They say the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas. No, Benjamin Netanyahu is responsible for Hamas. Benjamin Netanyahu owns the entire chessboard.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not allowed to accept these gifts from wealthy people in this way. They're totally compromised. He is a guilty felon 100% is a probably a huge part of why he's keeping the war going as long as he can, because they won't put him in prison as long as he's keeping the war going. But here's my point. On Videotex, Shin Bet asks Prime Minister Netanyahu, why do you support Hamas in Gaza? Why are you leaning on Qatar to give them billions of dollars? And Netanyahu says this is how we keep the Palestinians divided, but we control the hide of the flame. On video to the cops? So that means also that everyone who said that that quote was a lie is either a liar or a damned fool.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then he denied it, and his friends denied it and said he never said that, even though we got all his buddies here bragging about how smart he is for doing it that way, etc. But anyway, there's a new documentary called the BB Files. All the footage is Shin Bet National Police Interrogation Videos of Benjamin Netanyahu and his disgusting wife Sarah and all of their friends, and including Sheldon Adelson and Miriam Adelson, who gave Donald Trump six hundred million dollars to do whatever Israel says, and they're all interrogated in there because Sarah Netanyahu is a beast who demands that all of their friends give her jewelry and champagne and cars and cars, all kinds of fancy things, and this is illegal in Israel. This is absolutely against the letter of the law.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because we keep the terrorists in charge in Gaza. And you know what's funny about this? Netanyahu has been quoted repeatedly, saying, we control the height of the flame. Three different people said he said that to a group of Lakud ministers.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know who really voted for Hamas Benjamin Netanyahu did? So who gets the death penalty now? Willing to kill 20,000 children or more so far, bury a little babies. Imagine a little five-year-old baby buried alive in rubble and has to starve to death for five days in there. That's what Benjamin Netanyahu, the actual Owner, controller, creator of Hamas, boister of Hamas onto the hapless helpless Palestinian people. They supposedly have popular sovereignty in China. For them. And he said over and over we control the height of the flame. Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state must support Hamas in Gaza so that we can keep the Palestinians divided and so that we can continue to tell American. Again, we're talking about Netanyahu here. So American idiots, absurd fools. That we have no partner for peace”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He was going after him so hard, and at one point it was so funny you could see his face twist a little bit because the guy realized what he said after he said it that like oops this undermines the narrative a little bit. But the ambassador railed to Pierce Morgan. Nobody elected Hamas. They're not the legitimate power there, which is, yeah, that's right. He's railing against Hamas, right? But what's he just did? What'd he just do? He just told the truth and acquitted the Palestinian people of responsibility for Hamas. And then what appears Morgan do heroically told the truth. That you know who did support Hamas? Benjamin Netanyahu and the Lakud. Oh, check that out. You know who you get to kill? Anybody who's near somebody who years ago supposedly may have voted for Hermas to win a plurality?”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, right there, second one. I'll tell you a funny story. I did the Pierce Morgan show the other day. I debated Wesley Clark on Ukraine again. But while I was on hold? Pierce Morgan was whooping the Israeli ambassador, and I'm not sure if it was the ambassador to Britain or the Ambassador to the United States. But”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They have popular sovereignty behind Hamas and bear collective responsibility for Hamas's crimes when, as we mentioned a previous era, it was Israel that helped to install Hamas in power in the Gaza Strip in the first place, help their rise, their botched coup. Well, they did the disengagement to empower them again, no one to talk to certificate, bragging about it. Then they did the botched coup, which maybe was deliberately botched, or I don't know exactly what happened there, but that ended up with Hamas in charge of the entire Gaza Strip. And then we have, as we know, and people can, you might want to pull this up if you want to and show them. It's by me and one of my guys, Connor Freeman, is his name. And the article is called Netanyahu's Support for Hamas Backfired.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not the duly elected government of the people of Palestine. When George W. Bush forced those people to hold that election two thousand five, the majority of the population of Gaza were children, were minors at least under eighteen, okay? Could not vote. The majority of them were minors. That was in two thousand five. The last time they got a chance to vote, guess what? The majority of them are minors still to this day.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not a sovereign nation defending itself from attack from another sovereign nation of any kind. And Americans don't understand this because they're called Palestinians. And so aren't they from a country called Palestine? Everybody's got a country, right? But no, Israel's on top of Palestine. So no, they don't have a Palestine. They don't have a country. They don't have a government. The PA on the West Bank, if they are trustees in an Israeli open-air prison, then Hamas is just the strongest gang. They're the crips of the bloods or the Latin kings or the Aryan nations have taken over the prison in the Gaza Strip.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If the Trump government decided to build a wall around South Chicago and say we can't tolerate the violence of the blacks of South Chicago anymore, everybody knows that's one of the highest crime rates in the country. We're just going to bomb them because occasionally they break out of the black part of town and hurt other people too. So we're going to enclose their ghetto in giant concrete and razor wire walls, and then we're going to bomb them all to death. That's what Israel is doing, fish in a barrel, a canned hunt. You understand? Like a father abusing his son, a helpless captive. A guard beating an inmate Jeffrey Goldberg, torturing some poor Palestinian in his cell.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The closer equivalent would be Nelson Rockefeller sending the National Guard to put down the riot in Attica prison and killing all the guards along with the prisoners. This would be imagine maybe in an earlier time, an Indian reservation where they break out and they commit some atrocities, scalp some Anglo heads, and then what do we do? We go in there and bomb and kill 100,000 of them? Or if, again, because this is Israeli territory, okay, de jure no, de facto, absolutely. This is a ghetto. So how about if...”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It wasn't the second week of October. It wasn't the autumn of 23. It was one day that these captives were able to break out of their concentration camp. Commit some atrocities, right? This is not the nation next door. Again, contra Ben Shapiro's explicit lies that when he says, well, what would we do if Mexico was shooting rockets across the Rio Grande into Texas? Well, Mexico is the name of the national government in Mexico City and its armed military force. If they were firing rockets across the border into Texas, well, we would have some negotiation to do, wouldn't we? Okay, or worse. What we're talking about here is not Mexico. We're talking about an Indian reservation. We're talking about people who were already conquered and captured in nineteen sixty seven, who've been living under the totalitarian control of this foreign occupying army ever since then. We're talking about”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tend to doubt it, I guess, would be my stance. And I have simpler explanations. But there are people who think that Netanyahu let the attack happen because he wanted that kind of horror show to be inflicted on his own people so that he could get away with doing what he's doing now. Because why? Because what Hamas did is what's letting him get away with what he's doing now. He gave them this excuse, just like bin Laden gave George Bush one. Only Israel ain't going to be wrecked here. This is not working out for Hamas the way they hope, and I think their primary objective really was to take captive so they'd have him to trade for their own captives back, for their own hostages to get back. But they went way too far. They killed way too many innocent people and then gave the Israelis the writ. Now, as far as the attack being successful, it's worth pointing out. We call it October 7th because it was over by supper time.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And why we have to go and stop them. And again, Saddam Hussein and the Kuwaiti babies thrown out of their incubators. These are the kinds of atrocities that jerk tears. These are the kinds of atrocities that get people to change their mind and support a thing that they otherwise would not. And when in fact Hamas did kill unarmed women and children and particularly, I don't know how many children, but at least a few and many, many unarmed civilians, many, many women. And so their atrocities were already scarlet. They already were absolutely guilty of war crimes and what they had done that day. And in fact, it was so bad that people think, I don't know, man, I'm not taking a stance on this.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Happened here. Hamas only had grenades. This is much more destruction than that. All the cars at the rave that were destroyed, they were destroyed by helicopter fire, not by Hamas. How could Hamas have destroyed all those cars? They did not have the ability to do that. And now I'm not saying who all was in those cars when they were blasted at the raver and what every little thing that happened there, but it's clear that Israel waged a bunch of the destruction on their own people and deliberately so. And there's video testimony of this girl talking about they're shooting a house and her officers telling her to keep shooting and all of these things. I think she's even saying she defied one of these orders at one point. And so she didn't want to keep doing it because it didn't seem like it made sense to her and that kind of thing. And so this is part of why they embellished what Hamas did. But of course then they also wanted to do the Belgian babies on bayonets. That's from the First World War. All the lurred stories of the Huns' atrocities against the Belgians.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Rabbler, they all immediately noticed this, but then it was double extra, triple super verified by the Israeli press Haretz, Winet, the Jerusalem Post, that's all you need to show that they introduced what they call, and I think they probably made this up on the fly, mass Hannibal, which means not just kill a soldier, but even if it's a little old lady who's been kidnapped and is in the back of a car on the way, any car on their way back to the Gaza Strip, they bombed. They also used a tank to hit and kill a house full of at least nine civilians in one case in one of the kibbutzes. Now, I'm not playing down what Hamas did there. I am pointing out what Israel did, and this is a big part of why they had to embellish what Hamas did, because look at these houses are blown up.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And taken into the Gaza Strip back years ago. And the Israelis ended up having to negotiate and release a thousand Palestinian captives, not prisoners, because the Israelis hold them without trial, without any process whatsoever. They just kidnap them and hold them. So they're hostages to these Palestinians. But they had to release a thousand Palestinian hostages to get their one Israeli hostage back. And they said never again are we going to do that. So they invented a new doctrine which says if one of their soldiers or two of their soldiers getting successfully captured by Hamas and taken back into the strip, that they'll kill their own soldiers as well as the captors in order to prevent that from happening. They called that the Hannibal directive. Well, on October the 7th, and this is all from, first of all, very astute American observers like Max Blumenthal, Abu Ali Abu Nima, and Brad Pierce at the wayward.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, of course, he frames it like, oh, the Palestinians have been holding peace hostage when what he's really saying to them is y'all are screwed now, boy, ain't nobody comin' for you. I got ya. You never get in a state of your own and independence, and you're never getting citizenship, you gonna live in those concentration camps of yours until you're dead and we're done taking em from you. I win, you lose. That was his speech of september twenty second, two thousand three. Two weeks later, Hamas broke out of their pen and launched the october seventh attack, and they did kill probably a thousand people as the Israelis killed at least dozens, perhaps more than a hundred of their own people, by invoking the Hannibal directive. Now you might remember the story of an Israeli soldier named, I think it's Eisenkott, who had been captured by Hamas.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then that would be essentially these country's bribes to normalize relations with Israel. And they were working on Saudi Arabia. Now, on September the 22nd, 2023, Benjamin Netanyahu gave a speech before the UN General Assembly. You know how like he likes to do with his visual aids. This time he held up a map of the Middle East. The big red arrow across from Israel to the Sunni Arab states of the Gulf. He said, this is the new Middle East. Well, that was an inside joke. He was mocking Shimon Perez because Shimon Perez said we got to deal with Arafat and the PLO Fatah and deal with the pseudo-Palestinian state at least. Then we can make peace with the Sunni Arab states and have a new Middle East. So Netanyahu is up there crowing that under the Netanyahu doctrine, he got the New Middle East without giving in to the Palestinians in any way.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So on October 7th, let's rewind from October 7th. Why do we do the Abraham Accords under Trump's first term? We did the Abraham Accords because Saudi Arabia especially and the other Sunni Arab kingdoms had always promised that they would refuse to officially normalize relations with Israel until the Palestinians got a deal, either an independent state of their own or equal rights and citizenship in a single state. Now, what Jared Kushner figured out was well, we can just print money, so what's your price? And so, what he did was he bought F16s for Bahrain, F thirty five's for UAE, debt forgiveness for Sudan, and they made a deal with Morocco that they would recognize Morocco's illegal invasion and seizure of the northern half of the nation of Western Sahara.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thomas Jefferson crap. Well, we don't It's us versus our enemies and we will destroy them. That was considered fascism by the Israeli Supreme Court then. That is the Lakud Party doctrine now. Every Arab Palestinian, Muslim, and Christian must be killed and or forcibly removed from the last of the twenty two percent of measles stinking what's left of historic Palestine there.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They inflicted a holiday on the people of the Gaza Strip. That's, again, for the cognitive dissonance, they're like, well, why are we doing this then? Again, it's the lobby, the compromise of the American political system. But if your dissonance is telling you it can't be that bad, your dissonance is wrong. Yes, it can too. That's exactly how they are. And because Americans, we're Westerners. We have a different tradition. I mean, we were all, even in government school, they teach us that every man is born equal, not in every way, but in terms of our rights that we possess to own our own life and control our own destiny. That's what we believe. You know what? Meyer Kahane, the rabbi that was Al Qaeda's first target in New York City in 1990 in the United States, he gave an interview to Mike Wallace in the late 1970s, where he complains that American Jews believe in all this.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so for Ben Shapiro and his minor birds and mindless parroting puppets out there who believe him when he lies that this was the gifting to the Palestinians of independence. What it was was it was a Lakud scheme to divide and conquer and destroy the Palestinian people so that one day the Israelis could take the last of their property from them. That's what it was. And then when they put them under siege, you know what they said, Lex? They said the people of the Gaza Strip are hungry but not starving. And I wonder if that rings a bell in your mind where you've heard that before. That's what Walter Durante wrote in the New York Times about the Holodomor. In the same article where he said ye have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. They're hungry, but not starving, said Walter Duranti, and Ariel Charon's men.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Again, dividing and conquering the Palestinians. We leave Hamas at least ascendant at that time in Gaza. Then he says, We can say to the American Congress We have no partner for peace. And he says, We have from the Congress a no one to talk to certificate that says we have no one to talk to, and it says we'll have no one to talk to until Gaza is Norway. See you then and Shalom.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Siege, of course, and lock them in this cage like animals, basically. And she says, Well, what do we expect the Palestinians to do, right? They're going to freak out and fight. And he goes, yeah, of course they are. But then we will just have to kill and kill and kill. We will have to just bomb them and bomb them and bomb them and bomb them to just keep them weak and keep them from being able to resist. That's it. That's where that comes from. Ariel Charone's advisor Arnon Safer by Ruthie Bloom. I'm sorry I said her name wrong. I thought it was Sarah something. It's Ruthie Bloom. And that's what he explains. We will just have to kill and kill and kill. Now, another important aerial Sharon advisor was a guy named Dov Weissglass, and he explained to Haretz that the whole point of the disengagement from Gaza is to put the peace process in force.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, this is what we got to do. We have to disengage from Gaza so that just as a ruse, right? As an optical illusion, we're going to make it seem as though we're kicking the Palestinians of Gaza out of Israeli control and jurisdiction. That way you can't say it's an apartheid state anymore. Now we're back more to majority rules over the minority, of course ruthlessly, but still it's less worse than having a Jewish minority ruling over a Palestinian Arab, Muslim and Christian majority. That would be less tenable, right, was the idea. So he told Sharon this and said, you've got to do this, and this is why. He explains this to Sarah. What's her name at, oh, it was even called one-on-one. It's the demography, stupid, was the original title of the thing. And he tells her, this is what we got to do. And then we got, we'll have to put them under.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. The stuff that's like most important, especially if I need it and I need to link to it and I think whoever's got it now is going to be unreliable in the near future, Link Rod is a real thing as a real problem. So, yeah, on things like this, where it's like I can only find it in a pretty obscure place, I'll go ahead and reprint it here If that obscure place goes away, it'll still exist. Because, man, I mean, I really am shocked and surprised and dismayed how many times you'll have crucial information that there's only one version of it anywhere online, and it could go away any day. You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of things like that stresses me out. So I try to do stuff like this. So now he says,”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This article is from the Jerusalem Post where he gives an interview to a lady named Sarah something, and he explains the whole thing. Now I found this, I forget where I got it from, but I found on the Jerusalem post where it used to be like the URL is still there. And you can see where other people have linked to it in the past. But now that URL is dead and that kind of thing. But if you search the Jerusalem Post website carefully for her name and his name, you will find other articles about it where they refer back to this and refer back to the most explosive quotes out of it, et cetera. So this is verified and definitely a real interview, even though I don't believe you can find the whole thing at the Jerusalem Post anymore. But that's where it comes from. So by the way, and yes, go ahead.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then they formed a coalition government, which W. Bush then secretly conspired. And it's funny to read the article is called The Gaza Bombshell by David Rose and Vanity Fair. And in that article, David Wormser throws Elliot Abrams under the bus for this and says this was an idiotic scheme to help Fatah overthrow Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which led to Hamas kicking their ass and pushing them out instead, and Hamas then having more control over the Gaza Strip, which is what I think the Lakud guys probably wanted. And because, so first of all, now, again, I'll get right back to that in a second, but softer again.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, to solve this problem, what we want to do is just figuratively kick the Gazans out of Israel, even though Israel stole the Gaza Strip in 67 and they never did, literally disengage. They just put the thing under siege. If you listen to pro-Israel, you know, propagandists now, they'll say, well, we gave them a Palestinian state. We gave them full independence with the disengagement of 25 and all we got in return is rockets. But that's not true. It was the Israelis that broke the ceasefire originally, just as they always did ever since that time until October the 7th of 23. They broke the ceasefires every single time. And then it was W. Bush who forced them to hold the election, where Hamas won, again, a plurality, not a majority in even any single district anywhere in Palestine. Did they win a majority of the popular vote?”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Virtually or figuratively by so called disengaging with them so as to reduce the number of Palestinians officially occupied by Israel by a couple of million people. Does that make sense? So this guy is a demographer from Tel Aviv University. He comes to Ariel Sharon and says, Mr. Prime Minister, you got to look at my mathematics here. We have a problem. There are too many Palestinians and they are out reproducing us. We are approaching a fifty fifty split or worse, where we are going to be a literal dictionary definition apartheid state of a minority ruling the majority under this iron fist, and that could be very untenable for the future of the state and our support from the rest of the Western states, etc.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“An interview with him from, as I say here, the year is 2004. It is a year before Prime Minister Ariel Charon disengages from Gaza two years before Hamas wins a plurality in the election George W. Bush forced them to hold. Three years before Elliot Abram's failed coup, which led to Hamas kicking the Palestinian Authority out of Gaza and seizing so called control under the strip, of the strip under Israeli overlordship, of course, and the institution of the full scale siege and the beginning of the mowing the grass campaigns, which began in two thousand eight. Sharon's advisor Arnsofer explained to the Jerusalem post that the problem is the Palestinian Muslims and Christians are having too many babies. The Israelis don't want to let them have a state, but they do want to kick them out of Israel.”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And just like the high fibers. Oh, good. The Palestinians are the problem. Now we can get you to do what we want. Can we go to do Erl Sharon 2005 real quick? Eros Charone disengages from the Gaza Strip. Now, why did he do that? Well, there are two major reasons, okay? The first one is, and you could pull this up if you want to at scotthorn.org slash fair use. It's the guy's name is Arnon Soffer with two F's. Arnon Sofer, and then type in kill and kill. That should bring it up There”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Netanyahu came to France and he said, That's right. French Jews, you'll never be French, your Jews come home to Israel. And they said Damn you, screw you and get out we are too, French, and how dare you come here to this country and tell everybody else that we're really where your fifth column and not patriotic members of our civil society civic society that we are in fact part of and have lived here for centuries screw you dude, but that's good for him. He likes it when people hate Jews overseas because it's good for driving Jews overseas to move to Israel. And that's what's good for Israel and that's the only thing he cares about. Again, September 11th, oh man, this is great. The only way that he can see it. What he always wanted”
2025-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #478 – Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source