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  1. accept it, but let's not let it take over. Let's learn how to put it in a box. So it's a bit like a virus in a computer system exactly the same. We accept its damage, but we can box it in. And if it does raise its head, we mop it up again.

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  2. You have to accept. And the reason I brought that terminology in is sadly I've seen over the years when I've been in educational role as a doctor I've trained doctors and clinical psychologists, nursing staff to how we deal with emotions and what I've seen distressed is when you get well-meaning therapist of any kind and they're trying to change something that can't be changed and you have to say the circuit's damaged and rather than try and change it let's learn to deal with it in a very constructive way but not put that pressure on the person to do something which we're probably never going to achieve. So I'd always say try I'd always say let's try and process an event and let's try moving on so they remove it so great if you can get rid of low self esteem but if it keeps raising its head let's say stop putting pressure on that person and work with it you still try and remove it so but there's a point you say to them look

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  3. I was going to appear, but I'm going to have a way of dealing with them and then going back onto a much more positive footing. So sometimes we have beliefs within us that are just too hard to remove and they may have come from traumatic experiences. What I'm saying is I'm not rolling over and saying, oh, well, this is damaged goods. I'm saying let's learn if they do raise their heads, let's learn how to put them in a box, stop them from having impact in my life today, and then work forward from that. And again, that's a skill to do, and it just needs people to learn how to do that.

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  4. Childhood, we can't remember before the age of two, because it's not working. So our emotional memory begins in fetal life. So before we're even born the emotional memory is starting to work out what trauma is and react to that trauma. So we react to the mother's heartbeat, for example. And again, every fetus is different on the spectrum. And then we follow that through and therefore the machine can be damaged early in life. It can be damaged at any point. And then we have something which I've then tried to term an give a terminology of Grem a goblin to. So Gremlin is a belief or an experience you can process and actually get rid of. So you get people often who have very low self-esteem and that's going to continue throughout life. Now I'm certainly not saying we shouldn't try and get rid of that. Generally we can. But it could be they always have moments of low self esteem and what they need to do is accept

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  5. You're absolutely right, and it all hangs on, for example, somebody, like your parent might suddenly say, oh, you're just an idiot, you know, but something might have happened just before that where you've gone to school and you've got one out of ten and you were bottom of the spelling test and you've come home and then your father, you've done something at home and made a mistake and he says you're an idiot. And the two together get emotionally tangled. And that then damages the circus. Whereas normally if you come home, you just got nine out of ten for the spelling top of the class and he says you just bat it off and think, well, I got nine out of ten. So therefore the brain doesn't pick it up. So again, I'm trying to give examples where it's so complicated. What I would say is it's hard to find these because they happen often very young in life and the emotional aspects and our memories emotionally and how we formulate things have about a three year start on the human circuit which doesn't come in for three years approximately. So that's why we have no memories.

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  6. which is much more likely to have repercussions throughout life. But we still get children who get child abuse and have no repercussions. So it isn't a definite black and white. It's probabilities.

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  7. Wow, no, we're really getting deep. It depends on again, I'm being black and white, if someone has a really bad trauma at childhood, it can have repercussions throughout life. Because now the circuits in your brain are developing. So if you have a really traumatic event and not necessarily what we would define as traumatic, it's what the child defines. So I'm being a bit facetious here. For example, if it's got its favorite sweets and somebody steals them, that could be a traumatic childhood event at that moment in time the impact was so significant that it has repercussions, is damaging the circuits. It might, for example, perceive that as nothing in life is safe. Anything I have can be removed. However, most children get over it in seconds. But it depends on the child and what stage they're at and what the circumstances are at that point. Somebody else might have child abuse, for example.

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  8. First step is accept, but immediately say, right, what's the plan? Because that's what humans do. The human system wants solutions. It wants resolution, it wants to move on. The chimp system wants to express emotion. Then remove the problem, not solve it as a difference, just remove it. Ignore it, displace it, pretend it hasn't happened. That's not ideal, because it tends to combat and bite us.

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  9. Well, that's why when I've gone in, they're in the new book, I've tried to say how do these systems approach life? And what I've explained in that is the chimp system writes the script first before we leave the house. So it will say things like, I'm going to drive to work today and I'm going to get in 30 minutes. There'll be no holdups. So you can imagine the second there's something in the way, it explodes because that's what it does. It reacts. Whereas the human system doesn't. What the human system goes out with zero expectation but has hopes. I hope to get them thirty minutes. That's a world of difference. And then when I find there's a traffic jam, it doesn't react, it responds. So the two systems are very different. And if we can learn how to go into human mode, then we set off for work, there's a holdup we don't have an emotional reaction. We have a response which is accept there's the word accept what's in front of me but then follow through with a plan. So in the book I always say

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  10. So that's much more of an investigative. How do you use this now? And what she's really doing, and I've tried to push this in the next book, is to say what she's saying there is, you know what, my first step is acceptance. And that is what winners do. Successful people go, you know, it doesn't mean acceptance roll over. It means let me start from what's in front of me and stop fighting it and then work with it. And then see what I can do with it. Whereas when you look at the chimp brain, which generally is not as successful, can be, what it does is it says, I don't want what's in front of me. I want it different. This is not what should happen, so it spends its time getting aggravated rather than accepting and moving straight into plan of action. So we often spend a lot of time agitating about what's happened or what's in front of us instead of saying it's happened.

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  11. I push this, I'm pushing my next book now. Oh, this is, I mean, this one's a path through the jungle is to me is a step up. No, it is. The reason I did that one was to try and, this exact mountain, I threw all that lot out as a chimp paradox to say these are concepts. And she's giving what I've experienced doing talks over the last 20 years now to the public and various organizations is people come out of that and everybody picks something different. It's what resonates with you. So had I been working one-to-one with her, I do this like fishing expedition to see what's resonating and then we expand on that. So that's why I've gone into much more detail on this next book to say, right, if these bits resonate, he's the science behind at this time and references you're going to read it up. But if you don't, he's the practicalities.

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  12. How fairness so never we demand fairness where she actually operates from the chimps system which is emotionally based The human can accept unfairness The human gets over it and says get a life Stop trying to deal with trivia and get fairness. But our chimp system demands fairness.

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  13. So that's common. This is the surprise. When you look at the neuroscience behind this, you think, oh, that must be my human being rational logical, but actually isn't. When we look at this why I called it the chimp system, when we look at chimpanzees, they operate with the chimp system. They do have a human system, but it's quite primitive, which is where I got the analogy. So I looked at the great apes back in the nineteen nineties, and a publication came out in 2018 for the people academic to show the chimpanzee and human think very differently to the other great apes. We're very different. There's a different way of approaching things and interpreting. So we do have the same system with chimps. So that chimps system is the same. And the way it works is on fairness. So experiments with chimpanzees, and I'm sure you find them on YouTube, where they do unfairness to chimpanzees and even basic like capuchin monkeys demonstrate the same thing.

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  14. It's so true. And so that might resonate with people. But you might get somebody, which is where you're going, where you say, well, of course I love her, but hang on. That's not right because if she's done something that's wrong and I've reacted to that, she created that problem. I know I'm wrong to react, but hang on, I want the apology

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  15. And even if I'm in the right and she's in the wrong, it doesn't matter. It's not about winning, which is what the chimp brain does. It wants to win. Okay? The human wants to resolve the situation. So saying, I'm really sorry that you're upset and I didn't mean to upset you doesn't mean you're admitting fault or whatever. It just means you're trying to say that you're more important than this. This is trivial.

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  16. Oh, good, good. I'll just finish on that bit and I'll come back to the next one, which is where I think you're coming from and give you a surprise coming here. So, if somebody said my girlfriend's more important than me, I love this girl. I don't want to lose this girl. And the last thing wondered to upset and hurt her. It's easy to make an apology And it's easy to recognize. I don't want to hurt this person.

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  17. That's where I'm going. So I'm saying to you it's a shame it took eight years And that's why I like to do this work because you look back thinking if I'd learned this eight years ago. It would have made a big difference, but that may not resonate some might say, well, I don't get, I don't see it as weakness or strength. So what difference? So I would try a different tack and say that how important is it that you're happy or that your partner's happy? Who do you put first?

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  18. I've gone make a guest because I was like I said everyone's unique. So if I work with you, I'll say, well, again, we're looking at what beliefs you're holding is, do you think apologizing is something that's strong or weak?

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  19. So they're going to be unconscious beliefs that you're carrying with you. So then you go and meet some friend and those beliefs might come straight in. Am I going to damage this person? Am I going to say something stupid again? Am I going to lose it again? This is all really destructive and unhelpful.

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  20. Yeah, well, the chimp's going to be irrational. So when the chimp brain takes over, because it puts our beliefs in as well as we do. So, for example, the dog one, it will expand on that and say, well, there's something wrong with me. So let's go to you. You shouted, and then you start saying, you know, I'm not a great person. You know, because my belief is great. People shouldn't be doing that. And it's okay giving an excuse in, that's my chimp, but it's not good enough. And I can't allow it to happen again. And I've done damage to this person irreparably. And now you can say how it's starting to escalate. And you're putting all these beliefs inside your system.

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  21. It's sort of self evident. I mean again, this is the devil in detail. If you said to me, you know, when I do that, it makes me feel better just to think, right, I've had to go up myself here, and there's nothing wrong with that. But what I'm going to do is draw a line after a certain time. And then I'm going to say, right, you've had a gauge yourself, get over it. Yeah, let's put that into action now. Right? Then I'm not disapproving. I think it's self-evident that I'm not going to approve of somebody beating themself and going back to the same thing over and over and over. And then escalating that. So it doesn't just become I can't manage the dog. I'm an incompetent person. You know, and I get things wrong and everyone else seems to do this. What's wrong with me? That's the problem. It's now going down a very dangerous route.

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  22. Because that should not have happened. I know whatever I need to do, I compensate, I do whatever, and apologize. The second thing is, naturally, I assume you're going to say, well, I need to work on the dog. Need to learn to train the dog and manage it so I know exactly how to stop that happening again. But I'm not going to do is beat myself up for not being able to manage the dog.

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  23. Let me go back to the DOM because it's probably the best example. What you wouldn't do, I hope, is kick the dog. Dog's doing what the dog does, you know, the dog's dog doesn't know. So your job is to say, first, I'm going to apologize to the person

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  24. It's my responsibility 100%. So I work with people to say, be kind to yourself, because this system means business, and whatever your system is like, it will break through. There will be days you do not manage it.

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  25. So, if one gets shaken, the others come in. And that's how the brain will work. So I like more than one belief. But on the other hand, if under circumstances your chimp gets out and you shout. I want you to understand that your chimp got out it wasn't you that's not an excuse model You have to apologize if you think you've done wrong but I am seeing it's a skill model which means you says to me now I do not want to shout so you didn't do it however you're responsible You can't just absolve yourself so I always liken it to having a dog I'm a great dog lover if one of my dogs comes in here and bites you I can't just go as my dog The answer is I have to manage this system I have to manage my dog

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  26. Yeah, so that's not that helpful. So what a better belief I would suggest and see if you resonate is to say if you shout, even though you don't agree with it, because all your beliefs, in my opinion, are right, if you shout, forgive yourself and say, you know, that is a chimp system. And maybe I need to reinforce my computer system because my chimp got out there and I'm not proud of that because actually I don't think that helped. But I like people to understand that we can only manage the chimp system. We do not control it. And if it wants to get the better of us, it can. So all we can do is keep reinforcing the computer beliefs and strengthen them. And you've done it beautifully by having a number of beliefs. And then you've almost got this gang of autopilots.

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  27. And I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm saying it's what they want to do. However they might suddenly say with me at ye write with person B when I shout there is repercussion on the person and am I she hurting them and also in their eyes it's demeaning They see me as demeaning myself so it's not actually working in the long term It's not building a relationship that I want so it can be you tease the devil in the detail out you have a blanket by the sound of it belief that it doesn't matter who it is you don't shout I would agree with that. However, I'm going to give you more devil in detail. You have to be careful because if you add on to that, that shouting is something that's a failure. And then now I have a challenge on you. Because if you think about it, if you then suddenly out of the blue did shouting now potentially and thinking.

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  28. It's not my job to do that, so I'll explain what I mean. I agree with you, to me, shouting is not very helpful. Know at all. However, if somebody, that's not my job to tell people, I say to them, why would you hold that belief? And I do have people who say it because people don't listen unless you shout. Some people you have to shout at them. And so I draw a breath because obviously I'm not agreeing, but I'm not going to try and change the mind. I'm going to challenge them and say, can we challenge that to make sure that's what you believe? But if they are insistent, there are certain people in my life that shouting works for. It's not for me to say that what I would do then is say, right, let's say it does work. That's in the short term. So now we're in the devil in the detail. Our chimp system is working in the short term. It does not look at long-term consequence. So when you're human now comes in, your human system will look at rationality. What's the long-term consequence of me shouting? Now it may be with person air there's no long term consequence and you think it doesn't mean any difference. I'm going to shout, right? They get it and we're okay with that.

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  29. Then you don't shout. And it's not that you can't hit your computer stopping you because the chip. So before it does anything it can't move.

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  30. Yes. And you have to believe this, and you can't brainwash your brit at serving to believing. You've got experience it and say, this rings true to me. So once you've worked that out and you've reinforced it, which it sounds like you've done through your life.

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  31. You stop there so I can do that. That's brilliant. So just to try and steady with this, what you're saying to me is I absolutely resonate with these beliefs. They're not something I've given you, which is a danger. So if I said to you, we want to try and stop you shouting. It never gets you anywhere. You have to resonate with that's why I can't do it. You have to me, Steve, that really resonates.

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  32. And this is where it gets a little more complex. The chimpsis can just react. So if I, for example, your friends with me and one day I just shout at you for some reason and get annoyed and your chimp system is most likely going to shout back. But if it believes I'm not as good as other people or I can't cope, it's likely to go quiet and feel very intimidated and hurt. So again we have to work out what your chimp system is doing, but on the other hand the chimp system the neurosciences it always turns to the computer and says what beliefs do I hold before I make my decision? And this happens in the fifth of a second. So let's say you're about to shout back at me and your chimp looks into the computer and one of your beliefs and what they are if you shout back at people it makes you look foolish.

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  33. Right, we started again to recognise the systems. And say, right, let's just start because again, I tried to take people through a series of steps rather than just throw things at them. And so the very first step is let's define who you are and let's define what your chimp is like. So we recognize because you're everyone's unique. So I can't tell you who you are nor what your system is. I'll give you general things like this system is impulsive. It doesn't think a consequence is quite emotionally driven. When we're tired it takes over. And people generally start, I get that. So neuroscientifically, that's what happens in the brain. So how do we start to recognize the difference? And then when we do, let's start simply to say what is it that's prodding my chimpan into action?

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  34. Is saying how do I recognise and manage this chimp system? So when he came to me, it wasn't just in Snow Career's whole life. He could see that his emotions were getting the better of him, and it was a whole system that was emotionally driven, and it was almost paranoid about things, it was defensive, it was making him feel vulnerable, it was giving him anxiety. And it's a really powerful system. So it varies in person to person. Some people are very simple chimp systems which are not that strong, and others, most of us, have chimp systems we really recognize are there and they mean business, and they give us emotions which drive us to do things, make decisions, have behaviors that often are destructive, not just unconstructive.

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  35. And he challenged me at the beginning, but after about an hour of chatting, he said, I get this. Because on that instant he said to me, there was this voice, sort of saying, just go out of it, you don't have to be, I don't want to be here. And he said, and I'm saying to myself I want to play Snooker, I just want to enjoy the game. And this voice got more strong saying, right? Hit the queue. And he said, I hit the cue ball. And he said, I'm walking out and the voice is still going. Right, just keep walking. We're out of here. I can't deal with this and he said Now I get it. There were two of me There was me trying to do what I want and there's this voice which I couldn't manage at all and I couldn't stop it doing what I wanted to do so once I explained the model to him and the model isn't for everyone it's for those who can relate to it he said I get this because my human system my chimp system are so different their paws apart so he's worked for ten years

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  36. In being anxious about how we came across whether he'd perform well, what people would say, how well his rivals might be doing, it was just giving him what is natural and healthy, but extremely unhelpful. And that was creating very anxious moments. So before I met him, I had a look because I didn't know anything about Ronnie and Orsnooker. And I went online to say, can I see some YouTubes of him? And I saw him hitting the white ball with a cue stick. And I thought, well, obviously that's not the right thing to be doing. And I saw him walk out of a competition, which distressed me. I didn't know the gather. I thought, wow, the emotion that guy was getting at that point was to have been so unpleasant that part way through a world championship's competition he just suddenly stopped froze, shook hands and walked out. And I just thought, you know, when I saw that, I definitely would help this man. And we went back and actually looked at that incident and I said, what was it? And I love this.

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  37. So Chris was asking in my world he was saying how do I silence my human and chimp systems from analyzing and thinking which is their job and how do I go into computer more so I forget where I am and just get on with the process and he did this nicely Ronnie Sullivan wasn't in that place and again Ronnie's given me permission he kicked in tell everybody everything but I won't tell you everything a lot of stuff is beyond knock doors so he's a great guy I love running Sullivan we've been friends now for over 10 years so it's a privilege to work with him he's one of the hardest working of my students and and he's saying to me all the time he rings regularly so I've spoken to him already yesterday so we talk but the key to Ronnie was his chimp was so active

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  38. Then it's much more likely when you meet people you're going to be very open and your body language will be positive. If you have, I'm being severe obviously. If you have a belief nobody likes me or I'm not as good as everyone else, which unfortunately a lot of computers are programmed with that, then whenever you meet someone, you're on edge. And you're very conscious about what you're saying and doing because you figured that it's going to be the truth, that they don't like and you're trying to overcome that belief which is so unhelpful. Now that I call the gremlin. But these beliefs are programmed into us and we hold thousands of beliefs, often without knowing what they are.

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  39. Habit formation, yes. All three do work together. But the computer is one that just blots out the other two, or if they go silent, it can operate. And it's the computer that drives us to work. Or like you say, it goes on a familiar track. But it can also generate automatic thinking. So when you meet somebody, your chimp may start to think, is this person going to like me? Am I going to come across okay? It could give you anything. Whereas the computer system is automatic. So if you've programmed a belief that everybody loves me,

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  40. Your body knows what to do. You don't need to think. Whereas if we put an obstacle in there, then it will stop. Because it doesn't know what to do. It's not programmed. But you'll have to think then.

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  41. When it moves it can move at speed. But it thinks emotionally, so this is the part of his brain that will think thoughts that are not helpful, such as should I go faster at this point and then it may make a decision to go faster and burn out. So that would be crazy. Finally, the third system is a computer. It just needs programming. The key to the computer, particularly in sports, is it moves so fast it's approximately twenty times quicker than the human system to execute and it's about four times quicker than the chimp system. So if you get into computer mode, particularly in fast moving sports, it doesn't analyze or think its automatic thinking, so it works with keys like a computer.

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  42. The neuroscience is complex, so I'm going to cook corners and do it very black and white and simplified. It's complex. But in a nutshell, if there are three systems in your head, keeping it very simple, it's much more complex than that, but simplifying it. One of the systems will help you think very logically, and I call that the human system. It thinks logically, but it's very slow, which means if you operate with a human, your body and your reflexes will slow down because you're analyzing as you go along and it slows the system so you're more pensive. So that's really good in certain circumstances, but it's awful in fast moving sports. If he goes into that, it's very likely he'll slow down. It's not going to help him. If he goes into the second system which we'll probably come back to, the chimp system, this is a primitive system which thinks it's more than just a reaction and impulsive system.

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  43. And he would say then that when he got on the bike and he went round the day of the Olympics, he forgot where he was until he'd passed the line. So to me, that's like even complete focus mode. So again, credit to Chris.

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  44. Now, in his particular event, what I said to him is it's not going to help you to do an analysis in this event. Some sport it is, because you have a breathing space where you can analyze and then get back into what I call computer mode. So he needs to program his mind to have a fixed leg speed, a fixed markers on the track, so that he's not thinking at all. There's no analysis. That was my summary of it. So we tried that out. So when he went to the Olympics, everything was completely learning to switch off any thinking and analysis. And that's not easy, easier said than done. But we practiced this. So on the holding camp, which there's like a three-week camp before the Olympics, I went to the holding camp in Newport within. And every day we practiced this. So we do twenty minutes of him learning to focus and then we had specifics on the bike for when he got on it to do this kilo. And to me, he was an excellent student, clearly he committed to it.

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  45. I'm going to pick Chris Hyatt and Ronnie Sullivan on the grounds that both of them are very public about working with me and they put out what I'm about to talk about. So Chris, what he was saying, he was doing the kilo at the time, which is four lapse on a bike, but it's very similar to doing 400 meters where you know you've got to get the pace judgment right. If you go off too fast, you burn out and you won't finish. And if you go off too slow, you'll never get the ground back. So it's a really tough, really tough event. So in the key law, I had to learn that, which wasn't too hard because I'm familiar with 400 meters. And then when I did that, I have to test out what his beliefs are. You know, when he sets off on the bike, where is he pulling his forecas? And that's what Chris was saying is when I set off on the bike, my forekas can be distracted and it will drift off and I might start thinking about what other people have just done when I'm watching my competitors or am I going fast enough or and you start to do an analysis.

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  46. Take me to your world. I don't know your world. So I've got to go in there and learn what it is you're experiencing, how you're interpreting it. It's a teamwork, and then I have to test things out. So that's basically what I did when I started working with Chris Hoy. I asked him what he was wanting to do. What was he finding easy? What was he finding difficult? And then try and work out what I felt he needed to do and how he managed his mind. And then I kept pushing this point. It is a skill. You've got to acquire it. So I don't have other people might be able to do a process. I can't do that. What I do is ask you to work with me and try things out where you're gaining a skill. For example, the skill of recognizing whether your emotion is actually helpful or unhelpful, whether you can remove the emotion or need to work with it, or whether you can actually just dismiss it and learn how to move yourself on. And so it's a skill to be able to recognize things and then know how to deal with that particular thing that you're experiencing.

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  47. So I look at how the mind thinks how it functions and I ask you to first be a student really, and I want you to learn your unique mind. I'm going to give you the blueprint then together we're going to work out how you perceive the world, perceive yourself, perceive others. What do you want to do with your life? When we've done all of that, then and only then would I ask to go into your world so then we can apply what you've learned. So it was interesting that two people I worked with the public again were Vicky Pendleton who was probably still the world's most successful female sprint on the bike and then Ronnie O'Sullivan in Snoker and both were interviewed and they both said that to the press. They said, you know, he did not take us to sport. He took us to ourself and work with us as people. And so we got in a good place. Then we went to sport. Then he said, right, what is it you're choosing to do with your life? And then I have to learn then because obviously if you

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  48. I think this is like no matter who comes in the door, say you come to me, what I've got to say is I'm not a sports psychologist. I'm not the specialist. What I am is a specialist in the human mind. So I've made that my career.

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  49. Just, I don't know, gain momentum, and I just got this reputation well, this guy can help you mentally. So I work alongside the coaches, obviously they're the people who take them to the front and I do the mental side of it. So it wasn't a planned routine. And I still do all my other work. I still work with the public. I still work in other areas with doctors, with in the NHS, with the police I've done a lot of work with business people. So it just became generic at that point.

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  50. Amazing guy, absolutely amazing. So really, it was an easy bit of work to do to help him to get his mind to do what it wanted to do with his mind. He went off. I went undercover to the Athens Olympics. He asked me to go with him so we could make sure that he got his gold if I could contribute. He got his gold medal and then said, really, I want you in the team. So I didn't go for a year. And after a year, I was convinced I was working with Vicki Pendleton. And I knew that needed a bit more work. And she's again an amazing person. Great people to work with. And so I then took the leap. I mean, at that point, I was heading towards retirement then. So that's well over 20 years ago now. And then from there, when I worked with them at the swim.

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