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  1. “Yeah, just practice. And I actually recommend it to every musician because. You're just practicing here, you don't know what is more dominant necessarily. Is it this or is it your motor skills? If you just take that away and do it here, you know you've got it. So I'm glad that that happened and that I learned how to do that. And in terms of like learning fast, because like I had to learn how to, I had to try to absorb a lot of information in a short amount of time when I did have the instrument. I kind of would Do things in bursts, like even in that half an hour, I would just go play for a couple minutes and then I'd stop for a minute. And then I'd do it again. And I noticed there was like a huge difference. Between the first time and the second time, whereas if I just kept repeating stuff, it would be like much slower.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “No. And so I just learned how to visualize the fretboard in my head and I'd practice all day in my head. It's kind of like, you know, the Queen's Gambit, the TV show. With Anya Taylor Joy, and she just like sees it on the ceiling. I used to do that with the fret boy.”

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  3. “Yeah, I just grew up in an environment that was focused on academia. And I fell in love with guitar and really just wanted the focus to be that. So my limit was 30 minutes a day for, I don't even remember how many times a week might have been every day or five days a week, whatever.”

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  4. “Yeah, I've been writing I don't have like an intention of putting something out in any particular timeframe, but I'm just riding and letting things flow. And yeah, I love this, like a bunch of Leonard Cohen songs to where you like. There's so many ways to interpret this song and there's so many ways. I just love songs that don't aren't so specifically about one thing.”

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  5. “My favorite love songs are the ones where you're not sure. It's about romantic love or love of God or love of life or just pure, just. Love. Like, I was thinking George Harrison writes songs like that, what is life? Or, like Bob Dylan's song that George Harrison covered, if not for you.”

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  6. “Was Some of it Storytelling, and some of it was real experience, and it's always like a combination of things. Like, I serve the song. So sometimes you use your own life experience to tell a song, and sometimes you may watch a movie and part of that script merges with your own experience, and that tells the right story for the point you're trying to make. In the song, so it varies from song to song, like in terms of how autobiographical it is.”

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  7. “But sitting with yourself, there's no better education. Of facing every demon, it's all going to come out and it's not going to be pretty. Then there's things that happen on the other side of it that are so profound.”

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  8. “From an analytical standpoint, understanding what's happening, like what is the gross and the subtle body and the, you know, like I want to understand these things about what it is to be a human. So I like them both.”

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  9. “Both incredibly have been incredibly helpful to me because the Vedanta Anytime I go into my head about something, the answer is there. Based on this knowledge. And With the Zen monastery, it's like you just got to put your butt in the seat and sit and wait. Maybe something will happen. Maybe it won't. But just keep sitting. And it's very disciplined. You go through a lot, your body's purging a lot. There's a lot, and you don't necessarily have the answers as to what is happening. And so I think for somebody like me, I need both. I need to be in a place where there's complete uncertainty but complete discipline and just doing the regimented thing. And then there's me that feels very satisfied.”

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  10. “Well, if you're talking about the Zen monastery, because I stayed in Zen Monastery and I did a thing with the guy I was telling you about that kind of the integral Zen thing where he... Users Ken Wilbur's work in combination with Zen, that's a little bit different because he does talks. We talk about things. That's very separate from the monastery, like the Vedanta monasteries I've stayed at, which there's very little meditation in terms of sitting silently. Instead, we are meditating on the scriptures like the Upanishads and where like. Diving into that.”

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  11. “It's just an empty room with a tiny single bed and a sheen and a pillow, and that's it. Have to eat the same thing as everyone.”

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  12. “Yeah, because Your mind is like the thinking tool, like it's not you, you're not your mind, you're not your thoughts, you're not your body. So it's like just the you, like that knowing that you have, that's kind of when something resonates there. That's usually when you go with something.”

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  13. “This I've tried a lot of different avenues and they're all great. So I wouldn't just say, just try this one thing. Like I've studied the Upanishads with Vedanta teachers and gone through those texts for months and months and stayed at monasteries and how they break it down makes total sense to my mind and heart. And like my, more importantly than my mind, like my inner knowing, like it resonates.”

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  14. “Because he talks about levels of development and in consciousness and how this applies to like every single religion or non-religion that there are these levels of development and from all that go all the way up to enlightenment, no matter what you start off with, it could be Christianity, Buddhism, Vedanta, doesn't matter like anything, then I just like I like it when everything is and everyone is taken into account. It doesn't matter where you're coming from, that there's a way to be self-realized, self-actualized. There are self-actualized beings from all walks of life with very, very different paths. There's no one path. I mean, in this particular retreat I do, there's like a lot of silences and then there's some guided meditations.”

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  15. “Yeah. It's hard to explain how it applies to this type of meditation because it's in the guided parts of the meditation that this whole like holonic theory is brought in about like transcending and including every. Aspect of your being.”

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  16. “These particular retreats that I started doing, it's not straight silent. There are silence sits every hour for fifty minutes. And then there's some talks. And like these people that I've been working with are really cool because they're integrating spiral dynamics into Zen. And it's like the coolest combination.”

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  17. “I very much missed it and had to be very creative and I ended up Going into the back lounge when everyone was asleep and like meditating back there or like before everyone woke up. And I actually joined. There was like an online meditation retreat that was happening. It was like 12 hours a day of silent meditations that happens once a year. And I love this particular group of people. And they knew I was on tour. So they like just join when you can. And so I was on the tour doing the meditation retreat at the same time. It was so fun. It was so fun because I was like in the back lounge. The bus is like moving around like this. My laptop, the zoom is like. And I'm just like sitting like meditating. It was like, yeah, this is the shit.”

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  18. “Yeah, because I just get to sit there and not worry about all this stuff, these meaningless attachments. I got my suitcase with my necessities for my three suitcases sometimes. I can just sit there and meditate and just be with myself. And it's so awesome. And usually like you plan your touring for like, you know, you kind of get the business aspect of things taken care of in advance so you can kind of just really be flowing day to day on a tour. And it's a great feeling. It's funny because this last tour that I did, we didn't have hotels every night. We had hotels maybe like once a week. And I hadn't done that before. Usually I'm frequently in hotels. So I didn't get that space that I'm really used to getting.”

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  19. “I felt like I lost a piece of myself that I had given to somebody else, and I feel like people feel that in romantic exchanges, whether it's long-term, short-term. You give a piece of yourself, and then if that person dies, or you break up with that person, you feel like you've lost that piece of yourself, which I feel like is a very different experience than if you just are opening yourself rather than giving a piece of yourself, you're just opening yourself to somebody or something.”

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  20. “I think that loneliness is a product of feeling separate from the world. And separate from others, and that the less you experience that separation, the less you'll feel lonely.”

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  21. “I don't believe in the predetermined stuff necessarily, which is different from Whatever your previous karma is, and comma is a whole other kind of conversation. I don't mean karma is in good karma, bad karma, just karma meaning the collection of things you've acquired over this lifetime or other lifetimes, just whatever that is is going to influence your future.”

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  22. “Past the Roshi test. And then what's funny was that the next thing that happened about five minutes later was Leonard Cohen got down on his knees and opened up a jar. I'm not kidding you of caviar. This is not a callback.”

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  23. “No, we met in a rehearsal studio. I ended up watching their whole rehearsal and sitting there next to Roshi, his like 105-year-old monk. Was really great. I remember when I was like shaking his hand, so I was just me and Roshi on the couch watching Leonard with this band. He's shaking hands, and he grips my hand like this so it doesn't let it go. And he said, he looked at my eyes. He said, where are you? And I said, in the handshake. Yes.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “Because I lived there and it was like it meant something to me to sing that song and actually when I put that song out on YouTube, that's when he sent me an email. He's like, hey, do you want to come over?”

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  25. “When he put that song out, obviously, he didn't regret it or he wouldn't have put that lyric in the song. I think what happened was that eventually word got out, either from him or from somebody else that the song was about Janice Joplin. And so at that point, he regretted the indiscretion. So it wasn't that he regretted how great the line was. It was just. Know the privacy factor. But then again, Leonard's known for rewriting his lyrics in his live shows, you'll see a bunch of songs where it's like new lyrics. And he didn't do it because he didn't like the old lyrics. He just did it because... He could because he's Leonard, and it's like, why not have fun with words the way musicians have fun, you know, improvising solos on stage. And he could have changed that line in Chelsea Hotel after, in retrospect, and he never did.”

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  26. “Definitely. I mean, the thing that he taught me or his advice to me was. When you're writing a song, Look at it the next morning, like just first thing and read it. And then take a walk. Smoke a joint read it again. Go have a fight with your. Daughter, come back. Read it again. Get drunk read it again. Wait a week, read it again. Just so that, you know, from every state and every position, the wider the lens is going to be from an audience perspective, you want things to mean multiple things.”

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  27. “It could be both. Either, you know, I mean, that's the beautiful thing about poetry and lyric is that. It's supposed to be open.”

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  28. “Yeah, but as a whole piece, I appreciate it so much. I actually lived at the Chelsea Hotel. And when Leonard and I first met, that was one of the first things we talked about was, you know. I lived there where all that stuff went down before they tore it apart. And yeah. Just a beautiful song.”

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  29. “Well, the mothership has some magic to it Too. It's really cool. It's different, totally different vibe, but super awesome.”

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  30. “So right after Leonard Cohen passed away, the comedy store threw me a birthday party. It was this crazy lineup and like it was like I'd play a song with my band. And then Jackson Brown sat in and like sang a song. And then Dave Chappelle came up and said some jokes. It was like one of my favorite nights ever. It was cool. It was a very healing birthday party.”

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  31. “It's like a kinesthetic thing or like a physical thing or whatever it is, they're not quite doing the observational thing in the same way. So I just appreciate like my favorite thing to do is Go out and laugh, especially because I can tend to be pretty analytical and be in my head. And so anything that just kind of lets me be in my heart and just enjoy life.”

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  32. “I think everyone's connected spiritually in the same way so. I think personality wise comedians and musicians are quite different actually. You'd have to subdivide even musicians into different categories too because, you know, the thing that I appreciate about comedians is that, you know, you go to a restaurant with them and like all the observational humor of like they'll just notice everything and make you laugh about it, which a really great songwriter does the same thing too. And my favorite lyricist like Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, they warn Zvon, they add comedy into their lyric and like so those types of people I would liken to hanging out with a comedian. It's very different from, like, say somebody that is an instrumental guitarist or something like that, that they're more focused on.”

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  33. “I play it, and not only did I get goosebumps and started crying, but I looked over at Mike and same thing was happening. And he's like, I guess Jeff might be happy about this. And he's like, well, you know, I didn't want to let this one go. I was just trying to cheer you up a bit and maybe loan it to you for the tour. If you really want it, It's yours. And I was like, oh my God. This is like what a Mike Durnt is the nicest guy ever. So that happened. So that basis name is Jeff. And it's a white jazz bass, and I played it on the Incubus Tour. But yeah, I do feel like I'm more equipped to handle grief now.”

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  34. “He called me up and he said, Hey, I know you're going through a lot. And I said, I don't even know what I'm going to play. I really want a vintage jazz bass for this. And I only have a 70s one that I don't really think is appropriate. I really need a 60s one, blah, blah, blah. And Mike's like, I'm going to hook you up. He showed up to my place the next day with a truckload of old P bases and jazz bases and brought them all into my studio. And I'm playing them. And then I pull one out of the case. And it's Olympic white, just like Jeff Beck.”

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  35. “I mean, my grandpa had a really great sense of humor too. My grandpa's a Holocaust survivor. And like, he could just kind of like laugh at anything. And like, so I already kind of have that in me. But being around all these comedians just kind of like exaggerated that for me. And that really changed things for me for the better. So then when Jeff Beck died, it was like, okay, I've got these tools. I know what this is. And I'm going to go through it again. And I'm going to be on tour with Incubus in two days. And so Mike Durnt from Green Day.”

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  36. “Yeah, other than to really deeply connect with this grief that I'm experiencing, I'm not going to negate it. I'm not, I'm going to really fully. Connect to it. And I did. And it was tough. And then more people in 2017 were leaving. Greg All and Tom Petty. I mean, it was like, these are people that I worked with all these people and like had great connections with them. And they were all going and the world was mourning the loss of these people because of everything that they'd given to the world. Like they changed the world's lives, not just mine because I knew them personally. And so that was also complicated and why for me, it was interesting to be grieving the loss of these musicians with comedians. And I learned a lot. It changed my life because I just learned to laugh at absolutely anything.”

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  37. “In this case, I was like, you know what? This is a different kind of experience. I'm going to just hang out with comedians. And stay in this room”

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  38. “And every single one of those comedians embraced me like I was family. It didn't even take a day. I was like part of the family. And I made like 25 best friends. And I ended up throwing all my stuff in storage and like finding a little room to stay in where I rented my gear out. And that was me paying my rent paying was me loaning the gear because I didn't want any responsibilities financially. I just wanted to be completely free so that I could like just process it and not feel like I had to commit to anything work-wise or creatively. I just wanted to unplug. And so this was like a fun and very different way to unplug because, you know, previously I may have just gone to a monastery and spent, you know, weeks at a monastery or months.”

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  39. “He's like, no, no, no, like the comedy still, a place where comedians go. Like, okay, well, I've never seen stand up. I don't, you know, I've seen Seinfeld on TV that's like the extent of my standup experience. So you took me to the comedy store.”

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  40. “That just told me to shreds because Leonard Cohen was not just someone that profoundly inspired me musically and lyrically, but spiritually we had a very deep connection. And that was the basis of a lot of our conversation was spirituality. And so at that time, I felt like a piece of me went missing. And that was a very long process where I just stayed in my place and didn't want to play a note of music. I kind of wanted to just get rid of all my stuff. So I had a friend come over and he's like, you should just, why don't you come to the comedy store? I'm like, comedy store. What am I going to go to some store and buy clown suits? Like, what are you talking about? What's a comedy store?”

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  41. “You know, it's hard to accept that we won't create something musically again in this lifetime. But in terms of the grief. Grief was easier for me because I went through a major grief period in 2016 and 17. That was the first time I'd really gone through the process of grief in a non-family situation, like with friends and mentors and people that I'd created with, which is different. It's a different kind of connection. My grandparents died. There was nothing left unsaid, and I was at peace with what was happening. With this, when Prince died out of the blue in mid 2016, and then Leonard Cohen died in November.”

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  42. “Yeah. But then when I'm home, like, I love to meditate and I've tried various styles of meditation and studied various Of things. So I don't do just one thing. I kind of customize it depending on where I'm at in my life.”

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  43. “I meditate every day. When I'm on tour with my band, I ask that we all meditate together for at least twenty minutes, and I don't dictate what which type of meditation. I don't put on a guided meditation because everyone has their own thing they want to do. Maybe someone might be praying in their head. It doesn't matter. It's just the idea that we all put our phones down. And we all are in one room connecting energetically spiritually and just letting our lives go for a sec. And then we walk straight on the stage and it's always really connected. And there were a couple gigs where we ran out of time for that and I could tell. There was a major difference in the performance.”

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  44. “It used to be that it would only be on stage. It started with that. That was almost like my way in to flow state and meditation was playing music. And then back in the day when I kind of crash after shows, I wanted to change that. I wanted to always feel like I'm in flow state.”

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  45. “Trust and lack of fear. And also, I will say, you know, that each individual has developed likes and dislikes over their lifetime. And that can be like, in this case, we're just talking aesthetic likes and dislikes. So in this particular case, obviously our likes and dislikes are very much aligned such that the things I do to complement him, he enjoys and vice versa. It could be two, you know, very trusting, open musicians on stage that don't have walls up, but their choices are very different and one person likes heavy metal and the other person likes classical. It's going to be both.”

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  46. “I kind of a word that I prefer overconfidence is trust because I think with confidence is almost like... There's a belief assigned to it that I am this thing. You believe in, whereas trust is just simply knowing that you can get up there and handle whatever is going to come your way. And it's more of an open feeling where it's like, yeah, I could do this. Sure. But not like I'm a bad motherfucker. Like, you know what I mean? There's a huge difference because. I've shared the stage with people who have a lot of confidence, and it can be like a brick wall, just like fear is a brick wall.”

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  47. “If it brings your frequency down and you feel less joyful inside and less you don't feel like complete, you feel less than less worthy of something, then you could call that bad if you aspire to not feel that way.”

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  48. “There is critique, but not in the way that it would diminish my sense of self. It's different. I can just kind of look at something and be like, okay, well, actually next time I'll do this choice and this choice maybe. Maybe this would serve the song better. Maybe this would help the groove feel more like this. But it's not like I suck because I did this and I'm a loser.”

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  49. “Yeah, yeah, now I do. Now it's just I sense the body feeling fatigued, especially if it's a very long show, like the ones I just did with three-hour shows and we did, you know, one to three hour sound checks. So that's a lot of physical activity every day. So I just feel the body being tired, like fatigued the ears or fatigued. That's about it. I don't really reflect on the show much.”

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  50. “No, all stars of music. And yeah, he told me that story about on your worst day. Because, you know, like, yeah, even then, like when I was like 18, 19, I get sad sometimes about performances. Like I could have done this. I don't do that anymore, thankfully, or I'd be miserable.”

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