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Tal Wilkenfeld

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  1. And analyze it. Exactly. And that was the best form of learning, I think. Just like, well, what do you perceive here? And, well, I heard this, just discussing that.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Legendary basis, and I started playing the bass when I was 17, I moved to New York and I met Anthony, and he started mentoring me bit in a very not typical way. would just sit in his car with me for hours and talk music.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. That's actually a Steve Gadd quote. And Steve used to tell that to Anthony because Anthony used to get real depressed if he did a wrong thing or not perfect thing. And Steve Gad used to say this to Anthony Jackson. And then Anthony was my first base mentor or just mentor in general

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. That I can't remember. I can't remember if it was just a bad choice that sounded like a clanger or why it happened. It was so long ago, but I don't get depressed about that anymore

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. The dude came back 10 minutes later. With this huge thing It was a joke. It was a joke, but he actually brought me caveat. But anyway, that's the one time that I remember being sad about a performance. Now I'm just like, okay, whatever. It's done. Was it a physician?

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. I let it go in the moment on stage, but as soon as I got off stage I was really sad, and so I sat like on this road case. Everyone was out celebrating. I like sound this road case with a sad face like boo-hoo. And then Claude Knobs, like the owner of the, you know, the whole festival came out to me. He's like, Dahl, what's wrong? And I'm like, I played a bad night. Such a child. And like he said all this wise stuff that you know Miles Davis had imparted to him and like it fully cheered me up. He's like, is there anything that would make you feel better? And I was like caviar?

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. I remember one time when I was really young. Well, not really young, but like when I was 21 or 21. Yeah, exactly. But when I was first playing with Jeff Beck. And we played at what I consider the best, the coolest jazz festival Montreux Jazz. Like Miles played there, everyone played there, and they have the best speaker system ever. I was excited for months. And the drummer Vinny was like practicing for like eight hours in the bus on the way there. And everyone was like on fire on stage. And I remember playing a note, just one note that I really didn't like.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Probably. I think it's all about recovery, you know, and the more times that you fall off the cliff. Quickie, you know how to recover and the varying ways that you can recover to the point in which it's concealed so much that maybe a listener might not even know that you're recovering.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. Because at the edge of the cliff is all possibilities and unknown. You don't know what's coming. And I love being there in the unknown. Otherwise, it's just like, well, why are we doing this? Am I just like a clown on stage, like showing you my skills or what, you know, what I've studied in my bedroom? It's like, no, like I want to be like pure expression happening right now and responding in real time to everything that's happening. And anytime I'm not doing that, it's like it's a waste of everybody's time.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Don't care about those few little things. I care about the overall expression. And then there's other gigs that, you know, for instance, if I got called for like a pop or a country session or a show, in those environments, they may want you to play safe. Like just play the pot and play it with a great groove and time and great dynamics and don't really veer away from the pot and stuff. And I've done plenty of those gigs too. It's just a different hat you put on.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Different styles of music invite varying degrees of Would say uncertainty or unsafety in the way that people might perceive it. So, for instance, like the tour that I was just on, like playing Alman Brothers songs. Like I am standing on the edge of the cliff the entire night. And if I You know, mess something up, mess it up. Like, what even is a mistake? But if I do a little clunk or whatever it is, it's like, so what? I wouldn't have played half the stuff that I'm playing if I wasn't constantly standing on the edge of the cliff like wild. And so

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. He loved it and kept the solo in it. So that's kind of how there was no bass solo before I was playing in his band. So this whole thing was kind of new.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. Stepped It just shows what a generous musician he is, and that's evident in his playing across the board. He is a generous, loving, open musician. He's not there for himself. He's there for the music. And he thought, well, this would be the perfect musical thing to do. And it kind of all started like when I went to audition for him, which was an interesting experience because I got food poisoning on the plane. And so like literally when the plane landed, I went straight into an ambulance, into a hospital overnight. The manager picked me up and I showed up at Jeff's door, which was like a three-hour drive, like through windy country roads. And he answered the door and he's like, okay, you ready to play? So we went upstairs and started like rattling off the set. And when it came to this song, Kosovineta's lovers he just said solo

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. This was a guitar festival. It's one of the biggest guitar festivals in the world because Eric Clapton's festival and there's like 400 guitarists that are all playing like solos all night and we were like towards the end of the night and I could tell like Jeff like got like a kick out of you know I'm not gonna solo on like one of my most well-known songs Carl Veneta's lovers or Stevie Wonder wrote it but people know Jeff for that song and his solo on it like I'm gonna give it to my bass player and like and he did and like

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't nervous. I think that you can get an adrenaline rash before a stage, which is natural, but... Think as soon as you bring fear to a bandstand, you're like limiting yourself. You're kind of like wooling yourself off from everyone else. If you're afraid, like, what is there to be afraid of? You must be afraid of making a mistake, and therefore, you're coming at it as a perfectionist, and you can't come at music that way, or it's not going to be as... Expansive and vulnerable and true, so no, I was excited and passionate. Having the best time. And also, you know, the fact that he. Gave me this solo, the context of this performance is that.

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source