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Tristan de Montebello

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“You want to do the thing that you're trying to get better at. So if you're nervous speaking in front of people, you want to speak in front of people as part of your practice. So the way you could be useful to me is introduce these games to somebody else. Try them for yourself. Practice them with somebody else. Go through the accordion method with a friend. Try conductor. When you succeed and when you have an awesome experience, then you can tell the world that ultra speaking helped you do that. And that would be huge.”
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“If you go to ultraspeaking.com ultra like U-L-T-R-A-U-U-Ultraspeaking.com slash Lenny, we put together you have a Five emails that go deep into a bunch of the things that we've talked here. You can also just go to ultraspeaking.com where you'll get access to a bunch of the games for free. And you can check out everything else that we do. If you want to follow me or hit me up or ask me questions about this podcast, you can do that on Twitter at Montebello, M-O-N-T-E-B-E-L-L-O. And how can listeners be useful to me? Well, first of all, if you made it to here, then I really appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you for being here with us. What I would love for you to do is to apply this. We said in the beginning you can't get better at speaking without speaking. And another piece of that puzzle is.”
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“Is a speech meant for 500 to 1,000 people, not one person. So I was scared it would flop. But in the middle of the speech, which is a completely different one, I saw a tear roll down her cheek. And then she just hugged me and said, You got it, you did it, you did it. And I walked out on that stage and I made it and I won the semifinals with that speech. And I think to me, that was really the It showed me that everything I'd done was worth something, that it actually worked. If I was able to build a speech in five days that could get me a win at the semifinals of the World Championships, that was kind of the ultimate wow I won. So when I walked into the finals, to me, I felt like I had already won.”
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“Had waves of anxiety. I threw my speech away. And in five days, from the ground up, I rebuilt a completely new speech that was basically the best of everything I'd explored, everything I'd experimented with over the course of the three months leading up to that. Like the jokes that worked the best, like a stand-up comic what I built my special and I focused on different areas like all of the transitions Right before the semi finals, I gave the speech to one person. I was in Vancouver trying to internalize my speech and memorizing it in a plaza where I delimited the size of the stage. And I'm just giving my speech out loud to get over the nerve. So I'm ready for the pressure to see if my brain.”
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“We put the speech on the computer. And as I get to the most important part of the speech. So, this is the moment where I'm expecting people to pull out their tissues. One person pulls up their pulls up the agenda for the event that they're at and is starting to look at the agenda. Another person pulls out their phone. Another person starts going through their purse. I'm looking at this, and suddenly I realized, oh, this speech nobody cares about this. This is not a good speech. This is terrible. And then I go through all of these feats. I have 50 pieces of feedback. And all I'm getting is like, good luck for the semi-finals. It's going to go great. I thought it was good. I'm like, I'm going to humiliate myself. This is terrible.”
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“Six days before I was struggling at that, really, really struggling to get that speech together. I finally got something and Michael managed to get me, I was flying the, I think two days later to Vancouver for the semis. And Michael managed to unlock this one opportunity to speak in front of 50 people to give it a try. And so I ran there. I give the speech and as usual, we film. I film every single speech. I gave more than 100 speeches over those seven months. And I filmed every single speech. And we get home, we'd ask everybody for feedback. And I get home and I'm thinking, man, something is wrong. Something is wrong. I was so pumped. I wept, I genuinely wept as I wrote the speech because I was, it was so moving. It was all about my life. It was something that I was so connected to. I don't know, probably the emotion of the pressure as well. But that's how much I believed in that speech. We get home.”
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“Finally unlocked a speech that I thought was worthy of giving on the final stage because you have to show up there for the semi-finals with one speech and then the next day if ever you win, you're going to the finals and you have to have a brand new speech, a completely different speech that you're going to give on that stage. So you need two speeches ready to go. And both of those speeches have to be, in theory, world class.”
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“The journey lasted almost seven months, and it was the craziest journey of my life because I went into that with no experience whatsoever speaking. And so really just a random amateur. And I just climbed the ladder by outworking everybody. The story that came to mind right away was six days before the semi finals. So I'm six days before the semi-finals and I've qualified for the semi-finals two and a half months ago. So I'm nobody. Now I'm going to the semifinals of the World Championships of Public Speaking. So my mind really is struggling to compute.”
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“I think we're too future focused as a species or as a society and as a result, we're always looking for the next thing. So the motto I share with my friends and my business partners and my family the most, I think, is these are the good old days. And I remind myself, I'm like, I'll tell you right now for you and for whoever's listening. I mean, think about the podcast. It's never going to be this young. It's never going to feel like it feels right now. And it always feels like these things are eternal. But truly, one day you're going to look back and you're going to think, man, those were really the good old days. And so I say it right now. Enjoy because these are the good old days.”
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“My business partner, Michael Gandler, co founder of Vulturespeaking. This is called an Ember Mug. And this keeps whatever you have in it warm and it's extraordinary, whether you have a coffee drinker or a tea drinker, you know the feeling of pouring this and wanting and sipping it and buy the fifth sip. It's cold. This keeps it at whatever temperature you want it to for however long you want. And I absolutely love it. I've been using it basically every day.”
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“I haven't watched much very recently, but I'll say my TV show, my favorite TV show, one of my favorite TV shows of all time is The Peaky Blinders. English show with Killian Murphy. I'm absolutely obsessed with that movie, that show. I think it's a true masterpiece. And I recently rewatched, so I'll qualify this as recent. I recently rewatched the nice guys with Ryan Gosling and Russell Crowe. And I think it's just a brilliant comedy. Brilliant, like another masterpiece, I thought.”
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“Above which you can't be happy to turn to it into, he calls it an upward facing spiral with no upper limit. It's a really exciting and empowering book.”
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“I was given a book by my first coach Nathan Seward seven years ago called The Big Leap by Gay Hendrix that I've recommended so many times. And it's based on this idea that we tend to self-sabotage ourselves. I think five things that would happen to us when we're growing up. Like one of them is it, the wild poppy syndrome or something like that. Like the tallest poppy is the one that's cut first. So if you shine in a family of siblings, then anytime you shine too much, we're going to say, hey, hey, that's not cool for the others. So that's going to be internalized and hardwired in your body. And as an adult, as soon as you start shining a little bit too much. Going to do the same thing to yourself. So the idea is going from having this.”
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“I hope people found value. I mean, we did. This was really a group effort, and I really appreciate you working on the really bringing in the games and trying to make this as practical as possible. I think the only thing I want to leave people with is, again, this idea of how transformational. Tackling speaking can be. And the more constrained you feel with your speaking, the more transformational it will be to your life. I just want to give this encouragement. It's much, much, much more enjoyable than you think it will be. It can actually be exhilarating and energizing and you feel like you can take over the world once you're on this journey. It's beautiful. And so I just encourage everybody take the first step and start practicing your speaking.”
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“And you might have some support there as well. But if you don't have a one thing for each slide, either the slide shouldn't exist or it should be multiple slides. The symptom of not having a one thing is usually having a slide that says way too many things. I don't know what data point I want you to remember. So I'm going to put all of it on that slide. I'm not sure which piece of information is more important. So I'm going to write down all of my thoughts and I'm going to go through all of them or hope that you go through all of them and extract what you think is interesting. But the reality is people are just going to zone out if you do that. So if you do that slide by slide, you're going to gain incredible clarity. And again, you're going to need less preparation and less memorization.”
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“Exactly. And again, similar to the accordion method, this works in the macro and the micro. So, if you have a talk where you're using slides, Use it for the whole talk, but then for every single slide, ask yourself what is my one thing?”
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“With the bow and arrow. If you could only remember one thing, switch your mindset from what I want to say to what I want people to remember and limit whatever that is you want them to remember as much as possible. And that's going to give you extreme clarity.”
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“So that your arrow has that much more impact. So when usually the process of Clarifying what your arrow is is a back and forth between the bow and the arrows. So if you're going down the accordion method, like after the first one, you might write or before the first one, you might write a tentative arrow. Here's my one thing. And then the next one, you say, okay, actually my one thing might be a refined version of that. And so you might rewrite it a little bit. And then you might tentatively put in what you think the bow is. I like the anecdote I used here. I like this data point that I thought was powerful. And maybe I can end on this story or this call to action. Then you'll put that in. And then you go back in and you give that a try. And that's starting to simplify in your mind. And as you go, usually one informs the other. By the time you finish the accordion, for example, you should have a very clear arrow and those clear bookmarks, which is the bow. But really the thing to remember.”
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“That is the only sentence your people would remember if they left your talk. Would you be satisfied with that sentence? It takes some time to get to a good one, but if you have a good one, it unlocks everything. It's like you're having a North Star or a compass in your pocket. You can always pull it out. You always know where you're going. It gives you a lot of clarity. It's also giving a lot of clarity to your audience, obviously. But you can't just throw an arrow at somebody's face. You need to notch it in the bow and pull the bow back. And so to pull the bow back, you need to add in weight to that sentence. And that often comes in the form of an interesting anecdote or a data point that's going to support that or a story that's going to add emotion or illustrate it. So you want to find ways in which you can give weight or pull back the bow.”
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“What we found out is if you think about your last all hands, the last big meeting, the last talk you saw on YouTube or in person, you probably don't remember much. In fact, I'd wager, you might only remember one thing from that talk. And that's what this is all based on. We call it the bow and arrow technique because we think you can only remember one thing out of a talk and that it's very powerful to go through that framework or that kind of thinking when you're building a talk. And the one thing is your arrow. And so when you have that one thing, to me, I say it's literally a single sentence.”
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“The bow and arrow starts with a mine. It's really a mindset shift that most of us are in the weeds So we're very sensitive and familiar to All of the content that we're working on. If you're in data, then you have all of the data. If you're sharing ideas, you still have all of the ideas. And the mistake that most people do when they're preparing a talk, a presentation, an all hands and meeting, whatever it is, is we tend to focus more on what we want to say than what we want our audience to remember. So the mindset shift here is stop focusing as much on what you want to say and focus more on what you want your audience to remember.”
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“We have a full self paced course on ultraspeaking on the accordion. I think it costs like 30 bucks or something like that to access all of the games and all the platforms. A bunch of them are free, but I think this one's behind the paywall. But we also have, we put together a resource where you go all the way, we describe all of the accordion method, the bow and arrow, staying character, ending trong on a free email course that we put together that's ultra speaking.com slash lenny. So this is shameless self-promotion. But if you wanted to go grab it there.”
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“Really internalize it. Let's clarify this. Let's get it really, really tight. And then I might say, okay, now let's do the whole thing through the accordion. So your 20 minute talk, I want to hear it in three minutes. That gets really, really interesting”
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“Which you expect? When I say I love this, I use this for myself. I use this with every single client I work with regardless of if it's a five-minute talk, a 20 minute keynote, we're using the accordion method. And you can use this at the macro level or at the micro level. So you can use it for the whole talk, but you can also say, hey, let's hone in on this part one that you're struggling with or part two, and let's use the accordion to like get clarity there. So you can use the accordion as almost like a brainstorming way. I just want to see where I end up here. And it takes maybe 15 minutes or something to go through a full accordion. It depends the time constraints you give yourself. Sometimes I'll just do two minute, one minute, 30 seconds. That's even shorter. But I'll go through it for one piece of the puzzle. Or it's like, hey, we're almost there. Let's.”
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“Have 30 seconds. I can say the old way sucks. Because you have to work so hard and memorize everything and you're memorizing written stuff, the accordion method is much more powerful because you are going to compress it and go down and then open it up. And then I'll say, and then I'll explain that in a second, and then I'll say, so you're internalized, not memorized. What I realize right now is actually funny enough, though those were the bookmarks there. So that sent me down that path. But actually, I would say bookmark number two is probably the living room analogy. So it would be the old way sucks. Living room analogy, and then describe the accordion method.”
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“Before a talk, I might have four things written down. My one thing, and we'll talk about this in the bow and arrow, my one thing, the one thing I want people to remember, and then the three bookmarks or pillars that I want to hit. And these are kind of like cues or reminders that are going to send me into that part of the speech. So for example, if I'm talking about the accordion method, like what I just said, if I go back and I think through the pillars of this one, well, my one thing would be the accordion method is more powerful than memorizing and then doing it the old way. And then my bookmarks might be number one, describe the old way or like the old way. Number two, the new way or the accordion method. And then number three might be like internalized don't memorize. And that'll be kind of the takeaway. And if I have that in my mind, if I”
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“Is it that I want my audience to remember, and what are the pillars that I know I like to hit that feel really good? So you can think about these as like the foundational pillars that support that one thing that you're sharing or bookmarks that I know I have to hit. And then what I would like to do, and so that's what I would write down, I wouldn't write a script, I'd write those down. And then before the all hands, maybe the day before, maybe even the morning off, depending on how important this is or how comfortable you feel, then you might go through just one or two reps of it. But now you already know it. So it should come back very, very quickly in your mind.”
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“I can't say do it exactly a week or two weeks or whatever. It really depends how well you know familiar you are with the content. If you have an all hands and this is something that you've been hashing with your executive team over the past two months, you probably know it really, really well and you have a lot of clarity. And now it's just about organizing it nicely. So in that case, maybe you want to do the rough go through the accordion a week ahead of time so you have a clear sense of”
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“By the time you make it through the accordion method, you're basically ready to go give it on stage. But you could even give it now in one minute, two minutes, three minutes, five minutes. It's very plastic. You're going to be able to navigate different timeframes. It's not going to really matter if you make a mistake because you have a deep sense of what your speech is. It's not memorized, it's internalized. So not only have you gotten clarity and built out your speech in a in a very intentional way. But by the time you get to the end of it, you also actually know it and you're ready to perform it.”
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“So you're at the stage of I've written a script that I've painfully edited in the old way that you now still have to memorize and it's a written speech that you're going to have to pretend to give in a spoken way. In this case, you're there, but it's already completely internalized, not even memorized, it's internalized because you have these pillars, you know where you're going.”
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“The essential pieces like that couch and that lamp in the living room. When you have the essential pieces, you're going to have a clear sense of what your talk is about. And it might have changed as you were going down the accordion. And then from that place, we're going to do another 30 second rep, and then we're going to go back up the accordion. So you do another 30 seconds, and then you do one minute, two minute, and all the way back up to three minute. And every step of the way, you go from 30 seconds to a minute. Initially, a minute felt hard. Now that's double the time you just had. So you can intentionally bring in something that's aligned with the time. And now, whatever talk you have left there is a very clear intentional talk. And not only that, and this is why this is such an incredible method. Your talk is now internalized.”
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“Into spoken word, right? So I'm starting to like populate my mind with everything and seeing where am I actually at? Then after the three minutes, you think of, okay, what did I like? What didn't I like? Then you go to two minutes and you put a timer and you do two minutes again. And you're very strict with those two minutes because we're just trying to learn something every time. Doesn't need to be perfect. So at the two minute mark, you do the same thing. But now you had to take a whole minute out of that content. And as you do that, well, that means getting rid of the noise, getting rid of anything that doesn't feel right. Then you go down to one minute. And you're going to go down all the way to 30 seconds. So you started at a three minute speech and you make your way down to 30 seconds. By the time you make it to 30 seconds, you're going to have...”
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“So, how does that work with the accordion method? What we do is you can go through the first step, which if you want, you can write all of those ideas on paper just to get them out of your head. That's totally fine. But from this moment on, there's no more script. And I'm just going to give an example of times, but you can change these time constraints slightly. We're going down the accordion by using time constraints. So for example, you would say, I'm going to speak for three minutes. So you're going to put a timer and you have two rules. I have to stay in character the whole time and I have to end strong. So you must make it to the end of the three minutes. And it doesn't matter how bad it sounds, how many mistakes you make. The only point here is I'm trying to get my ideas out.”
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“The accordion method is saying, and imagine this were easy to do with furniture, I'm going to take everything out of my living room. Accept the most essential pieces that make my living room. So I might be left with that one couch that I really love, a pillow, a beautiful light that I bought three years ago, and one or two other small things. And as I look at that, I'm going to have clarity on the vision I want for my living room. And then very slowly, very intentionally, I'm going to go take certain elements that were already there that I might want to bring back in. And I'm going to bring new elements that now I see make sense. And so by the time you finish with your beautiful living room, it's going to be this beautiful minimalistic room that has a very clear design choice and every element there is there because you chose it. It's there because you did it very intentionally.”
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“Preparing our talk by writing, we're going to prepare our talk by speaking. And we're going to do so in a very specific way where we're going down the accordion to create extreme clarity and to understand what the essence of our talk is and then back up the accordion to bring back in intentionally just the right pieces. So I was thinking of an analogy for this and one that I really like is imagine you're redecorating your living room. Old way, they're like writing 10 pages and memorizing it is I'm going to look at my living room and I'm going to rearrange things and like put stuff in a corner that I might need later. And then I'm going to bring some new things that I thought I could be really nice. And I'm going to struggle to like make something work.”
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“10 pages into a script so that you don't forget all of those brilliant lines that you spend so many hours editing. And they're still in writing mode. They're not in your mind. So now that I've created that script that I've spent a lot of time editing Now I have to memorize it. And memorization is pretty shitty. We're not good at memorization. Robots are good at memorization. Humans are not. And memorization is like a chain where you just have all of these links very linearly. And everybody knows the feeling of going through reciting a poem as a kid. And suddenly you miss one verse and you're lost. And now you're a deer in the headlines. What we're doing with the accordion method is instead of”
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“The old way, I think, is shitty. I think it's broken. And I haven't found anything out there that is innovating on this. And it drove us crazy with Michael. And that's what gave birth to the accordion method. What's the old way? The old way is I have a talk coming up. So I'm going to dump all of my ideas on a piece of paper or multiple pieces of paper. Then I'm going to try rearranging those ideas. And as I'm rearranging the ideas and trying to make them in a talk, I have more inspiration. And I'm thinking, oh, maybe I could say it this way. And I don't want to lose that other thing that I send in the beginning because maybe I would use it. And you start just creating this alien stack of paper with all of your ideas of what your talk might be. And then you're left with 10, 15 pieces of paper. And now as the data line comes closer, what do you have to do? Well, you have to go through the excruciating pain of turning.”
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“Now I'm biased when I'm going to say this. So take this with a pinch of salt. But I think the accordion method, the accordion method might be one of the things I'm the most proud of in my entire life because It's almost revolutionizing the way we should, I think we should prepare speaking. So up until now, we've talked about spontaneous speaking mostly. And that's going to be the vast majority of your speaking, probably 80% of your speaking is stuff that you can't prepare for. But there are going to be situations where you know you have a deadline and you're going to have to speak. And either you have to speak because it's a job interview or you're talking to your CEO or maybe you're presenting to your whole team or an audience of a thousand”
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“Then you definitely benefit from calming that voice down. So spending time learning these skill sets, because you're most likely atrophied because you're staying away from it. And you're going to have this very powerful listener in the back of your mind that's going to ping you. It's like, hey, you're at the limit right now. Stay, stay true to what you know. And it's going to be a very good compass for yourself. It's going to be there and you can trust it because you've developed.”
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“You have that same skill set for yourself. So it's just going to be now, it's just too loud. So as we go through this practice, we want to match, hey, I want to match that's level of communication, except I'm going to have the ideas to back it up. I'm going to really put effort into my craft. But I'm going to be able to show them in the best possible light. And what we want to be able to do is notice, okay, if this is a big thing for you, the bullshitting and you're noticing a big reaction just even listening to us, not even playing the games yourself.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That now, if I take even the smallest step in that direction of speaking freely, sharing my thoughts out loud, bringing more conviction or confidence to what I'm saying, not leaking, then there's this immediate response, like an immune response in my body that's just too strong that saying, uh-oh, you're becoming the bullshitter. Alarm bells, alarm bells go back to that safe little corner you were in. But the reality is If you're thinking that. Then you have no chance of becoming a bullshitter. Because if that thought is even popping into your mind, then you're the type of person who has developed a very acute skill set of noticing when people bullshit.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think that's an important question and it's a question I hear a lot. Because we all know a bullshater. And that's the person who masters the skill of communication, but doesn't have anything to show for it. And so This thing happens is that I see a bullshitter and I think to myself, I really, really don't want to become that person. And what happens is it becomes an immune response or like an immune response. The desire not to be that person and the feeling being around that person gives you is so strong.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this comes back to thinking out lie. Like if I'm really in my mind, I'm making connections and suddenly the words are the consequence of it. So using prompts, poking your brain, giving these cues naturally creates things that you couldn't have anticipated otherwise. Like putting constraints on a creative project.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's really what we're doing. We can most people have a skill set that's up here and a mindset that's down here. So, if you can just change the mindset to match the skill set, you've already made a giant leap. And you do that by reducing the stakes in your mind and by just speaking. And as you do that, when you're thinking out loud, you have these moments of connecting things in your mind and then naturally it pops out. And if you're doing it well, and I love there's a really cool Naval Ravicant interview on the Joe Rogan podcast from many years ago. That's phenomenal. And at one point he talks about communication, if I'm not mistaken. I think it's on that podcast. But he says something along the lines of one should discover the words they are saying at the same time their audiences.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, we're going to hopefully we get to talk about the accordion method. One of the most powerful methods I have, which is very close to this, but this is often a prompt I tell people when they're speaking. I say, because people tend to get into a public speaking voice, right? So we'll be in a class and they'll be chatting normally and look super normal. And then we'll say, okay, now just a timer. I'm just going to give you a speech. Just speak for 60 seconds so we get a baseline. And I click play and suddenly they say The important part about doing this and they enter into a different version of themselves, a very professional version, whatever that would mean. So much more freeing, powerful, connecting, and effective to speak conversationally. So, the cue I often give people is, Don't think about us, just think out loud.”
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“Title was space exploration, and the words were in fact the entire world, then we cannot forget that. It astonishes me when, and finally, life changing. So, what was that like? What did it feel like getting”
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“Same intention for you, I think, is choose a strong direction from the beginning. This is always in speaking in general, the stronger the direction you choose in the beginning, the more ideas you're going to have, the more everything gets easier when you choose a strong direction.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I'm so gear for you to go through this and for anybody listening to try this for themselves. Even if you know what's coming, if you want to do this for yourself right now, write the words, the prompts that Lenny just shared and choose any title and just speak for a minute and see if you can integrate those in because you're going to notice how if you bring conviction, these words naturally bring that out of you. And so interesting to watch the content change as a result of the state you get into and what you say. So it's really powerful to discover just how incredible your brain is. So, same”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that doesn't mean I can do every idea. I need to choose a very clear focus and stick to that focus. And this is a game changer when you start reducing the amount of things you're doing to a painful amount of painful few amount. Then when you get there, suddenly everything else changed. And it astonishes me when I do that just how much more I can get done even though I'm doing fewer things.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, here we go. The title is Saying No. I've had to learn this the hard way as an entrepreneur that saying no is one of the most important things I can do. But saying no is not saying no to a meeting because that can be easy. And what I'm going to say now matters a ton. This is saying no to doing all of the exciting projects that I want to do. So as I said earlier, I'm a Labrador. I get excited about everything and I genuinely believe that every idea is awesome.”
2024-10-13 · Lenny's Podcast · Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source