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  1. It's not sexy, it's not glamorous, it's not easy. It's the more I've done it, the harder it's gotten, you know, because you don't want to become a parody of yourself. You don't want to keep. You know, doing the same things, you get sort of disgusted by your own instincts. You know, I've written that joke, I've written that character, like, and then, you know, it's gotten a little bit better because my inner monologue is a little bit nicer to me these days. I worked on detaching from my negative, beating myself up. But writing is, um... Writing's nasty, you know, and you know, I've also gotten better as I've learned about neurology in terms of like not trying to multitask, not, you know, my internet's cut off when I write. I don't have my phone near me. I don't try to edit and write simultaneously.

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  2. No one should be famous at twenty. Could you imagine if you were famous at twenty? No. The things you did when you, and by the way, imagine

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  3. Lesson you want us to make the best seller list. And I'm like, yeah, it wasn't that good. Know because that's like the hype syndrome of like.

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  4. I have comedians come up to me now because with YouTube and how famous everyone gets so fast or some visibility, which I think is great, the democratization of. Comedy and entertainment, but people like three years in are like, I just, I'm working on a sitcom and I don't have an agent. And I'm like, you should in six years we'll talk. Get good, and then we'll talk. There's this entitlement now I have 10 minutes of jokes and like, where's my sitcom? Right. You know, it's like a doctor going to school for two years and being like, I think I'm ready to operate. It's like, no, I'll see you in 10 years.

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  5. Yeah, I see comedy and writing like med school. It's like, this is the only profession where people think they should be famous and be making millions of dollars two years in. It's like doctors go to med school for 10 years, 12 years.

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  6. And they didn't pick that up, but that's what Michael Patrick King read that made him interested in me to write two girls with him. So everything that I, and then I wrote a spec for a pilot that didn't even go that was Dane Cook's.

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  7. And I wrote about three sisters that had the same mother but three different fathers and how those three different personality types produce different sort of girls and their relationship Fox didn't pick that up. I wrote a pilot for Comedy Central. Which I still today till today think is the best thing I've ever written. It was about based on me and about just me falling in love with a guy who's in AA and he can't date anyone outside of AA. To get in his life. And I go to AA and pretend I'm getting sober to get in his life. And then I fake a relapse to get his attention in the pilot and then have to like drink and then actually become an alcoholic. It's just really ridiculous.

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  8. It might just be a documentary. And everyone thought that was kind of insane and no one really read it. And then I wrote one that was based on this book called Ah it was about something about it was like a psychology book I think it was called the I don't remember but it was about the 14 different kinds of personalities you know and

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  9. It's a single episode of basically the first episode of a TV show, which is sort of has to introduce all the characters, and it's just a little different than a traditional episode, and it has to be introduced the world and be very specific. So I wrote one about The news in 2040, and it was like about a news station and the news in 2040 and it was kind of this apocalyptic take on what the news was going to be like and the screen was like all covered in ads and all of the newscasters dressed like NASCAR drivers with like brands all over them and you know they literally every other sentence they said you know they'd be like you know so Costco's you know Cincinnati is 72 degrees like every state was sponsored by an ad it was just kind of a ridiculous sort of hyperbolic sort of

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  10. Got me to success. I failed so many times and wasn't deterred by it. I, for whatever reason, saw failure as practice instead of as the end, the finish line, you know? If that makes any sense, like I wrote three pilots before anyone even read a pilot I had written.

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  11. To that point, I remember being the doctor and having this realization because, you know, I grew up on Roseanne and Matt about you and Three's company and like these multi-cams and I love comedy. I love comedians. I remember being like, I'm living my dream at 27. I have everything I wanted for my whole life and I'm not enjoying it. I'm the doctor and I'm pneumonia, and I'm like, you know, managing people's egos instead of just like having a great time.

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  12. Queen of giving everything away, all my energy, all my time, all my money, all my, you know, I was like, I would cook a five-course meal for you, but then I wouldn't eat dinner, you know. So I think, you know, I had this doctor say to me, you know, he's like, you're killing yourself, you know, like you really need to figure out a way to be healthier. And that's when I kind of learned about neurology and stress and cortisol and adrenaline and Finephrine and how damaging they can be on your body. You know, I was like, I'm 27 and I have three jobs. This is awesome. But then it's all fun and games until, you know. Until you have leprosy.

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  13. And essentially, I just wasn't taking care of myself because I was so busy. I mean, I was sleeping like four hours a night and had to be in every meeting and every editing session. And I was writing four scripts at a time and I was just super overextended. I had some family things happen. My mom had a stroke. I had a family member going to rehab and I just had no concept of boundaries. And you can't give what you don't have. I was the

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  14. Which is it does? You get it at Costco. The good news is it's really affordable. And it's basically the infection from the pneumonia in the muscles of your chest, which is called pleural C, which people got like in the Civil War. I mean, it's like nobody gets this. Like you have to go so long without taking polio. It's like, and then it gets inflames the cartilage under your rib cage, so it starts to just sort of your chest is really sore

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  15. Yes, Anne, again, I wish I had I wish I lied more, actually. I probably should lie in your response to this question. I got pneumonia and I didn't notice. And it got really bad and turned into something called Costcochondritis.

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  16. You know, a phrase that I love that when I first went into Alan on, I heard someone said, people pleasing is a form of assholery. Which I just loved because you're not pleasing anybody, you're just making them resentful because you're being disingenuous. And you're also.

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  17. that it was really paralyzing and really unproductive and slowed down the writing process, confused employees. I remember in the room, you know, people would pitch jokes and I would just say yes to all of them because I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. And then I have to go later and change it. And then all of a sudden the script comes out and their jokes aren't there and they feel betrayed and lied to.

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  18. I know. Why doesn't everyone, if you were all just psychic and did everything my way, everything would be fine. And so I think that when I realized that I couldn't fire someone, I mean, I literally would get a pit in my stomach when I had to tell someone that I, you know, didn't like the script or didn't like their joke. I realized I was like, I can't believe how hard it is for me to feel like I'm disappointing someone or just to tell the truth, quite frankly. I was so apologetic and afraid of people not liking me.

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  19. That asking for help, I realized how hard it was for me. So there's no point in having a great script or being a great writer or actor if you can't let people help you. So I think a lot of, I realized, because again, Being like you and I, just in terms of impatience and all that, like. It works really well up into a certain point. So all of these defects had worked really well for me until I had a staff. Until I had people who were, I had to collaborate with and all of a sudden I'm like, was sort of a codependent mess

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  20. Who wanted to do it? I mean, I just had a bunch of employees that were like, can we please do something? We're so bored. And I was like, I got it. I got it. I was just so coming from stand-up comedy. I'm so used to doing everything myself.

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  21. Yes, and I'm exhausting myself and making them feel bad. Nope, everybody loses. And I remember I was like punching holes in a script and there was like literally 40 other people in that room.

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  22. You will never be successful if you're dysfunctional in your relationships and with your employees and stuff. If you have trust issues, if you have abandonment issues, if you're a narcissist, whatever it is, you know, if you are controlling because I found like, I remember when I was so apologetic and I was so afraid to ask for help. I was doing everybody's job.

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  23. By the way, in the workaholism, and you know more about this than anyone, a lot of it was busyness. It wasn't actual work. I was taking on a lot of tasks that I had no business doing just because I had been so sort of, I think one of the most important things you can do as an artist or in any field, I can really only speak to comedians, actors, writers, performers, is to get a handle on your issues.

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  24. And I mean, even like listening to podcasts, or I was always a motive of like, oh, I can get a joke out of this, or if I listen, you know? And it made me realize how. Work driven I was.

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  25. Purely. So I took up equine therapy and like some other hobbies and stuff, but it was really a struggle. I was like, I can do that. And I mean an hour in, I was restless. I was felt unproductive. I felt like, you know, I was making notes in my phone. I'm like working. I realized. Working on the main.

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  26. But when I knew it comes in with a plom, it comes in art. And so I felt like, you know, it was really important to me to have balance. Like I didn't have any hobbies. I got assigned homework from my trauma therapist that I had to do two hours a week chunks of something that was purely fun with no work motives.

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  27. I don't hate that idea. That's how sick I am. But yeah, I hadn't had like an organic, healthy sort of conversation with someone, not that the people that I hire are like obsequious to me and won't, you know, walk on eggshells around me.

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  28. Yeah, self-reflexive. Yeah. And then all of a sudden I'm just in like, it's just so meta. And I'm sitting there and I remember being in the writer's room in the second season of a... TV show about sort of relationships, and someone's like, Oh, what if they go to a baby shower? And I'm like, no one goes to baby showers and everyone in the room was like, you don't. But most people do on a Sunday go to a baby shower and I was like, oh my God, I was just so myopic. And I was so, I hadn't had a conversation, you know, this is going to come off bad, but I'm just going to be honest. I hadn't had a conversation with someone that I didn't pay. In months

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  29. If I am not as dark and in pain all the time, and it was actually the opposite because I waste so much time trying to manage, you know, unhealthy relationships and the, you know, having low self-esteem and my perfectionism, which can be really paralyzing. Perfectionism leads to procrastination, which leads to paralysis. So I could go a couple days without getting any writing done because my self-esteem was too low. I didn't think I was good enough. And just these old sort of obsolete messages and survival instincts. I think that it has given me so much more mental energy, physical energy. I have much more balance in my life now, and I'm much more productive and much more vulnerable, which as a writer, you have to be vulnerable. I think before I was so overworked, I was such a chronic workaholic that I didn't have a life.

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  30. Great question. I think the short answer is no. One of my biggest fears when I went into a recovery program and intensive therapy, like not talk therapy, like trauma therapy, which is actually kind of the opposite of talk therapy because talk therapy largely, I'm not disapproving of therapy, but for me personally, mine has more of a neurological perspective, which is when you have some kind of trauma and you talk about it, you just re-embed the trauma and it actually makes it worse. So I do like, I can't talk about a certain topic for 28 days. I have to replace a negative thought with a positive thought for 28 days. I mean, it's like a pretty hard work. I get really worried. I was like, you know, talking to my. Therapist and a bunch of people in my program. I was like, I'm just really afraid that I'm not going to be as funny

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  31. And whatever was going on in my household. So you get a bunch of really fragile people who have all these defense mechanisms in one room to constantly show up every day to be rejected because you're in a writer's room. All you're doing is pitching. And the boss is saying, no, no, no, no, no, no. And you're just hearing no all day. You're not good enough. You're not funny enough, which is what we all translate to. So a bunch of really fragile, sensitive people in one room and who may or may not have done the kind of recovery that I've committed to or therapy. We always assume everyone works as hard on ourselves as we do. They don't, you know?

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  32. And another thing that was super helpful, because at least in my field, I don't know the case for years, I can't speak to it, but a lot of people who are in a performance-based field, whether it's writing, acting, as this is a huge generalization, but you can sometimes assume they didn't get a ton of attention as a child or need more attention than most. They have a compulsion to be need to be seen and heard and appreciated. And humor is usually developed as a shield slash defense mechanism. So what were they defending against? We don't know, but it was something. Everyone had a thing they had to defend against child. My last name is Cummings. That was probably what I was managing as a child.

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  33. That was exactly. So, that was my way of just, it's a shortcut. And as soon as I meet someone in my head, I just say, I love you. That's the starting point. And then, yeah, I love you. Can I please get a Dia Coke with it, whatever? I mean, for everybody.

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  34. Whenever I have Everybody's so ungrateful Like, well, wait a second now. Wait a second. I'm the common denominator in all these interactions.

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  35. One of my favorite quotes, one of my favorite people is Catherine Hepburn. And in a Philadelphia story, I think it was Carrie Grant said, to Catherine Hepburn's character, you have no tolerance for human weakness. And I remember that resonating a little bit.

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  36. Because I've just worked really hard at it. So I'm really good at things that a lot of people might not be and vice versa. So it's like I'm like, how come he hasn't finished that book yet? How could he, it's been two days. And it's like, okay, not everyone reads a book or whatever it is, you know? Yeah.

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  37. And something that is a battle for them might be super easy for you. Right. You know, and that's, I think my dad said something really who is not known for excellent advice, but he said something to me. Once that was super helpful because I was having a lot of trouble in relationships where I felt like I wasn't getting my needs met. And he was like, you just have to understand how strong you come off. Like, people don't think you need anything. So that's why people don't help you. And it was this interesting thing where I was like, oh, I mean, I have a lot of weaknesses and I'm bad at a lot of things. But when I'm good at something, which maybe you can relate to, I'm really good at it.

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  38. Overbearing way Which works great when you're writing a book yourself, but when all of a sudden you're getting a relationship or have employees doesn't work as well.

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  39. It was just an interesting little trick for 28 days, which is how long it takes to make a neural pathway, a new neural pathway. I would just, when I meet someone in my head, whether it's the lady at the DMV who's making me wait two hours and essentially it's just the notion of everybody is doing the best they can with what they have. Yeah. Which is really hard for a lot of us to accept

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  40. Constantly just working on Project Series. I know, exactly. Like, is he wearing flip-flops to work? I mean, it was just like, just a way to not focus on myself. And I think ultimately sometimes when we judge other people, it's just a way to not look at ourselves as a way to feel superior or sanctimonious or whatever. So my trauma therapist said, like, every time you meet someone, just in your head, say, I love you. Before you have a conversation with them, and that conversation is going to go a lot better.

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  41. Every hour of my life. Okay, so I might have a pamphlet for you. But I found myself just being, and I think that's one of the reasons I gravitated gravitated towards being a writer and a comedian is I get to do it all on my own. You know, I write the material, I perform it, I critique it, I rewrite it, I tour, I do everything on my own because when other people get involved, I just, you know, it's inefficient and I don't like the way you're doing things. I don't like the way you're saying that. I don't like the way you're sitting, everything.

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  42. I was struggling a little bit with patience and compassion and, again, I'm codependent, or like I grew up in an alcoholic home, which a lot of times people get, we have a lot of trouble with patients and control, and we want everyone to do what we want to do when we want it to be done. And that's sort of how we survived as children is if I could just organize my drinks in the right row, I'm going to be fine, you know? And I found myself and I travel a tremendous amount, as I'm sure you do also And I have in the past, and I just found myself getting frustrated with people not doing things my way. I don't know if you've ever

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  43. Entire time I'm on the podcast. Okay, good. Feel free to bounce. Maybe you know what? I mean, I'm just admitting pretty embarrassing. It's pretty hard to embarrass me, but any kind of vulnerability tends to be a little bit embarrassing for a comedian.

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  44. I love you Couple things. My last special was called I Love You, but I actually did that after I got the tattoo. Interesting. I'm trying to figure out how to say this without seeming ridiculous, but something that I

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  45. Family of Origin used to cause. And it was like, this is a completely inappropriate reaction. This is an employee who works for me who's trying to get a scrub done. And all of a sudden I'm like, you know, reliving these historical wounds. It's not appropriate. So I think it was sort of me really trying to put an end to that story and respond to present circumstances. With present appropriate emotions. Makes any sense

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  46. That's interesting. It was kind of my, and it wasn't necessarily a trigger for me. I think it was more like a symbol for me of sort of a time. I think this sounds kind of corny, but like it was open when I was a kid and I would sort of like, you know, not in like a masochistic way, but I would sort of like prick myself with it when things would get. It was just like a tick kind of, like how someone bites their nails or something. And so I sort of closed it. So the tattoo is a closed safety pin that's sort of like, you're safe, it's over. Because a lot of times if you have any kind of trauma as a kid, you become an adult and you constantly are recreating your childhood circumstances and having these completely obsolete and appropriate feelings to present situations.

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  47. Yes. Yes. Got it. Yeah. When I started doing EMDR and sort of like getting into sort of like neurological recovery, essentially from trauma.

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  48. I want to say it was bottles, and she was putting the glove on it that was in the open. But anyway, so she explains it as our brains take in three billion pieces of information a second, right? So, you know, Tim's shirt is, you know, camouflage and how he feels, how he looks, how this house feels, trampoline outside. That's a longer story listeners. There's a trampoline that all I want to do is leave this podcast and go jump on it. And then when we get traumatized, our brain freezes, but the information keeps coming in. So if right now someone came in and held up a gun to our heads, the information would still come in, white walls, wooden Apple computer, this cactus, and then it would be filed into the folder of trauma. So later in five years, I'm sitting at dinner and all of a sudden there's a cactus and I'm anxious and stressed out and I don't know why exactly and I'm triggered. So it's like reprogramming some of those triggers into a folder that is more benign.

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  49. Basically reprogram your trauma in terms of putting them into trauma into a different folder, like in layman's terms. So the way that my trauma therapist explained it to me was you remember the episode in I Love Lucy when there was the conveyor belt of was it the bomb bonds or Was it bottles with gloves?

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  50. Yeah, every hour a day times five days a week. Yeah, that's five hours of tattoo covering, which I just don't have time. Hence the white. And then the safety pin was sort of, I grew up in, this is not funny. We're going to get funny. We don't have to be all funny. In kind of an unsafe environment. And my parents would argue a lot when I was a kid. And I used to play with, we didn't have a lot of money. I was poor. Safety pins were my toys. I just remember playing with safety pins and I remember open them and closing them. And I just remember that was just, I did EMDR, which is like a trauma thing.

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