Ms Nusrat Ghani
MP for Sussex Weald · Conservative · United Kingdom
“Before we come to the urgent question, I must say how disappointing it is that the Government were not forthcoming with a proactive ministerial statement on this matter. The disruption to aviation and the impact on many constituents has been considerable.”
“The point of order and its content are not a matter for the Chair. I have not been notified of any Minister coming forward at this point, but I have only just come into the Chair. If the hon.”
“(3) Regulations under section 14Z45B must provide that, where an out-of-hospital service is to be provided to a patient, the integrated care board must— (a) offer the patient a choice of at least two providers capable of providing the service, which may include NHS bodies and independent sector providers approved to provide that service u…”
“(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), the relevant requirements are— (a) that the special educational provision set out in section F of an EHC plan meets the needs identified by an EHC needs assessment; (b) that ICBs can be required to provide such special educational provision; (c) that ICBs must provide such special educational provis…”
“(3) The Charter must— (a) set out the fundamental principles and responsibilities for assessing whether a data sharing partnership is in the interest of the public and the NHS; (b) include the primary goal of protecting people’s privacy and their data from exploitation, while promoting trust in data systems and the handling of health data…”
“(2) Arrangements under subsection (1) must, so far as reasonably practicable, provide for— (a) general practitioners, dentists, pharmacists and other relevant primary care professionals to work together as part of integrated local primary care teams; (b) the sharing of relevant patient information between those professionals through secur…”
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“(3) The Secretary of State must publish a report containing— (a) the findings and conclusions of the review, and (b) a timetable for the delivery of any recommendations for change within six months of the completion of the review.” New clause 7— Overpayments made as a result of official error — “(1) Section 71ZB of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 is amended as follows. (2) In subsection (1), for “The” substitute “Subject to subsection (1A), the”.”
“(2) In this section “domestic abuse” has the meaning given by section 1 of the Domestic Abuse Act 2021.” New clause 6— Review of whistle blowing processes in relation to public sector fraud — “(1) Secretary of State must, within one year of the passing of this Act, conduct a review of whistle blowing processes in relation to fraud in the public sector. (2) A review conducted under this section must consider— (a) the appropriateness and efficacy of existing whistle blowing processes; (b) barriers to reporting fraud and reasons for under reporting of fraud; and (c) recommendations for change.”
“(2) Where at any time after the passage of this Act, the use of any system is— (a) commenced; (b) amended; or (c) discontinued; the Minister must, as soon as reasonably practicable, accordingly include information about the system in the Algorithmic Transparency Reporting Standard.” This new clause would require the use of algorithms, algorithmic tools, and systems, and artificial intelligence, including machine learning, to be included within the Algorithmic Transparency Reporting Standard. New clause 5— Duty to consider domestic abuse risk to account holders— “(1) Before any direct deduction order under Schedule 5 is made, the Secretary of State has a duty to consider its effect on any person who— (a) is a victim of domestic abuse, or (b) the Minister reasonably believes to be at risk of domestic abuse.”
“(5) If any audit identifies significant inaccuracies, unfairness or biases in any algorithmic systems, the Secretary of State must, within 30 days of the publication of the report outlining these findings, present an action plan to Parliament which outlines the steps which the Government intends to take to address the identified issues.” This new clause would provide for an audit of algorithmic systems used in relation to Carer’s Allowance overpayments. New clause 4— Inclusion of systems within the Algorithmic Transparency Reporting Standard — “(1) For the purposes of this section, “system” means— (a) algorithms, algorithmic tools, and systems; and (b) artificial intelligence, including machine learning; provided that they are used in fulfilling the purposes of this Act.”
“(3) An audit conducted under this section must consider— (a) the accuracy of the algorithmic systems in identifying overpayments, and (b) the fairness of the systems’ design, application and operation, including any disproportionate impact on particular groups. (4) After every audit a report on its findings must be— (a) published; (b) laid before both Houses of Parliament within 14 days of publication; and (c) made publicly available in an accessible format.”
“New clause 3— Audit of algorithmic systems used in relation to Carer ’ s Allowance overpayments — “(1) An independent audit of algorithmic systems used in the assessment, detection or recovery of Carer’s Allowance overpayments must be conducted at least once every six months. (2) Any audit under subsection (1) must be conducted by persons with relevant expertise in data science, ethics and social policy who have no direct affiliation with— (a) the Department for Work and Pensions, or (b) any person or body involved in the development or operation of the algorithmic systems under review.”
“New clause 2— Impact of Act on people facing financial exclusion — “(1) The independent person appointed under section 64(1) of this Act must carry out an assessment of the impact of this Act on the number of people facing financial exclusion. (2) The independent person must, after 12 months of the passing of the Act— (a) prepare a report on the review, and (b) submit the report to the Minister. (3) On receiving a report the Minister must— (a) publish it, and (b) lay a copy before Parliament.” This new clause would look into the impact of the Act on people facing financial exclusion.”
“New clause 1— Recovery of overpayments of Carer ’ s Allowance — “The Secretary of State may not exercise any of the powers of recovery under this Act in relation to a person who has received an overpayment of Carer’s Allowance until such time as— (a) the Secretary of State has commissioned an independent review of the overpayment of Carer’s Allowance; (b) the review has concluded its inquiry and submitted a report containing recommendations to the Secretary of State; (c) the Secretary of State has laid the report of the independent review before Parliament; and (d) the Secretary of State has implemented the recommendations of the independent review.” This new clause would delay any payments being taken from people who the Government may think owe repayments on Carer’s Allowance until the independent review into Carer’s Allowance overpayments has been published and fully implemented.”
“With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government new clause 18— Consequential amendments to the Social Security Fraud Act 2001 . Government new clause 19— Devolved benefits . Government new clause 20— Powers of Scottish Ministers .”
“Order. With just shy of 50 Members wishing to contribute, the only way that I can guarantee the maximum number of contributions is by having a speaking limit of five minutes to begin with.”
“Order. Before the hon. Member for Cheadle responds, let me say that if interventions are long, even fewer colleagues will be able to get in. Interventions should be short. They should not be speeches.”
“Order. I am not sure that the hon. Member highlighting his prowess in running the London marathon is appropriate to the Bill, but I wish him well.”
“I am not sure if I am thankful for that point of order. The Chair is overseeing the debate. I have listened to it very closely. I appreciate that it is about immigration. I know that the Bill is very thin—it is only two pages long—but it is broad in scope. I will continue to listen very closely to the Secretary of State, and he will ensure that his comments are within scope of the Bill.”
“Order. Members should not use “you”. The hon. Member was told off twice earlier for using it, and he came and apologised to the Chair. I would not have mentioned it, were I not being accurate in making clear for the record that he had been inappropriate with his language.”
“Once the Bill had been printed and made available in the Vote Office, notice could be given appointing the next available Private Members’ Bill Friday for Second Reading and so all subsequent proceedings, including on 28 March and today, are unaffected. Motion made, That the Bill be now read a Second time.”
“Further to the Deputy Speaker’s statement on 28 March, in column 1298 of the Official Report, Mr Speaker has directed that the proceedings entitled the Arm’s-Length Bodies (Accountability to Parliament) Bill on 14 March should be considered void and this should be reflected in the Journal . That title, and associated text, was substituted in error for the Arm’s-Length Bodies (Review) Bill. As the House has been notified, the Arm’s-Length Bodies (Review) Bill had not been correctly printed at that time, which is a requirement under Standing Order No. 14(3). The order for Second Reading therefore lapsed at the rising of the House on 13 March.”
“As the Member for Carlisle mentioned her mother’s 91st birthday, it is only appropriate that I wish Freda Minns—what a beautiful name—a very happy birthday. Question put and agreed to.”
“The point of order is most definitely on the record. It is a point of courtesy to be here for the close of a debate if you are here for the opening. No doubt, Opposition Front Benchers will make that very clear to the Member.”
“Order. Before you get back to your feet, Mr Farron, I remind you that you can speak as long as you want, but the longer you speak, the less likely it is that colleagues will be able to contribute.”
“Order. Before the Secretary of State responds, I would like him to consider the fact that more than 30 colleagues wish to contribute. The longer he speaks, the less likely it is that they will all get in.”
“Order. Because the Front-Bench contributions have been so substantial, Back Benchers will now be on a time limit of three minutes. I call the shadow Secretary of State.”
“Order. Colleagues and the Secretary of State must be much swifter—we have another statement and two further debates. Anneliese Dodds, show us how it is done.”
“Order. A large number of colleagues wish to contribute, so can questions please be short? I ask the Minister to ensure that his responses are just as short.”
“Order. We have just 20 minutes remaining, so questions must be short, and I ask the Leader of the House to be brief with her answers as well.”
“We now come to the Select Committee statement. Florence Eshalomi will speak on behalf of the Housing, Communities and Local Government Committee for up to 10 minutes, during which no interventions may be taken. At the conclusion of her statement, I will call Members to ask questions on the subject of the statement. They should be brief questions, rather than full speeches. I emphasise that questions should be directed to the Select Committee Chair, not the Minister. Front Benchers may take part in questioning.”
“I am grateful to the hon. Member for giving notice of his point of order. I take it that he has notified the Members concerned that he intended to refer to them.”
“I remind all hon. Members that they must inform colleagues in advance whenever they intend to visit another colleague’s constituency, unless the visit is made for private purposes. That is now most definitely on the record.”
“The hon. Member, if he was following procedure, should have informed me or the Clerks that he intended to raise that point of order. Maybe his point is a matter for next time. It has been raised and recorded.”
“We do not need continued points of order on this issue, thank you so much. We will proceed. Bill Presented Groceries Labelling (Size Reduction) Bill Presentation and First Reading (Standing Order No. 57) Blair McDougall presented a Bill to make provision about labelling requirements for certain groceries products where the manufacturer has reduced the size of the product; and for connected purposes. Bill read the First time; to be read a Second time on Friday 11 July, and to be printed (Bill 218).”
“Order. I will now announce the result of today’s deferred Division on the draft Ecodesign for Energy-Related Products and Energy Information (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2025. The Ayes were 349 and the Noes were 14, so the Ayes have it. [The Division list is published at the end of today’s debates.] We have four more speeches.”
“Order. The Foreign Secretary does not need to be reminded that we reference sitting Members not by their names, but by their constituencies.”
“I am grateful to the hon. Member for giving notice of her point of order. The Chair is not responsible for ministerial appearances before Select Committees, but I can see that the Foreign Secretary is keen to respond. No doubt he will have a positive response to her point of order right now.”
“Order. This is turning into a debate in itself. It is very clear that the Member does not want to take an intervention right now, Mr Snell, but she may do so later.”
“Order. If colleagues speak for too long, others will be disappointed, so, unofficially, let us try to keep our speeches to under 10 minutes.”
“Order. I thought it was remiss that the speech by the right hon. Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Sir John Hayes) did not have a literary person in it, but he managed to get C. S. Lewis into his intervention.”
“I inform the House that Mr Speaker is in Ukraine at the invitation of Ruslan Stefanchuk, president of the Ukrainian Parliament, alongside Speakers from across Europe. He will provide an update to the House on Wednesday.”
“I am grateful to the hon. Member for giving notice of his point of order. As he knows, the Chair is not responsible for the content of questions and answers. Nevertheless, Members should strive to be accurate in the comments they make to the House. If a mistake has been made, there is a procedure for correcting the record.”
“Amendment 2, page 4, line 13, at end insert— “(c) the impact of the exercise of the relevant functions on the provision of level 7 apprenticeships in England” Amendment 6, in clause 12, page 5, line 6, leave out subsections (1) and (2) and insert— “(1) This Act comes into force at the end of the period of one year beginning on the day on which Skills England is created.””
“Amendment 4, in clause 4, page 2, line 6, at end insert— “(3B) A group of persons under subsection (3) must include a representative from an organisation that is the representative body for a sector.” Amendment 5, page 2, line 6, at end insert— “(3B) When approving a standard under subsection (3), the Secretary of State must have regard to the reasonable requirements of— (a) industry, commerce, finance, professions and other employers regarding education and training, and (b) persons who may wish to undertake education and training.” Amendment 3, in clause 5, page 2, line 32, at end insert— “(6B) When approving a standard under subsection (6), the Secretary of State must have regard to the reasonable requirements of— (a) industry, commerce, finance, professions and other employers regarding education and training, and (b) persons who may wish to undertake education and training.” Amendment 1, in clause 9, page 4, line 13, after “England” insert “, including the impact of removing apprenticeship level funding for degree apprenticeships”.”
“(2) At the end of a year after the passing of this Act, the Secretary of State must make regulations transferring to Skills England all the functions transferred from the Institute for Apprenticeships and Technical Education under this Act. (3) Nothing in this section prevents the Secretary of State from transferring more functions to Skills England under other enactments.” This new clause would put Skills England on an independent statutory footing rather than as part of the DfE. The role of IfATE would be included in that planned for Skills England.”
“(2) The report under subsection (1) must include— (a) the involvement of Skills England in the administration of T Levels, including the curriculum and assessment methods; (b) an assessment of the independence of the accreditation of T-Levels, specifically whether there has been any involvement of the Secretary of State in this process; and (c) an assessment of the extent to which T-Levels are meeting local demand for skills. (3) The report under subsection (1) must be laid before both Houses of Parliament.” New clause 4— Creation of Skills England — “(1) A body corporate known as Skills England is established to carry out the functions transferred to the Secretary of State under this Act.”
“With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: New clause 2— Report on the impact on Higher Education — “(1) Within one year of the passing of this Act, the Secretary of State must publish a report on the impact of this Act on the provision of degree apprenticeships in England. (2) The Report must include an impact assessment of the removal of apprenticeship levy funding for degree apprenticeships. (3) The report under subsection (1) must be laid before both Houses of Parliament.” New clause 3— Report on the impact on T levels — “(1) Within one year of the passing of this Act, the Secretary of State must publish a report on the impact of this Act on T-Levels.”
“I call Pam Cox. Happy birthday! [ Interruption. ] Do you wish to contribute, or are you going to celebrate your birthday on the Back Benches?”
“Order. Could you be seated for a moment? We are talking about the amendments to the Bill, not the overall Bill. The idea is to discuss the amendments and whether you disagree with them, but you need to bring your contribution in line with the debate this evening.”
“With the leave of the House, we will take motions 4 and 5 together. Administration Ordered , That Gill Furniss be discharged from the Administration Committee and Bambos Charalambous be added. Finance That Matt Bishop be discharged from the Finance Committee and Paul Davies be added.— (Jessica Morden, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)”
“Order. I believe Mr Lewis probably cannot hear interventions, because he is so loud himself. Members should intervene loudly if they wish to intervene.”
“The hon. Gentleman knows that it is entirely up to the Member who is speaking to decide whether they wish to take or reject an intervention, just as it is up to Members attempting to make an intervention to either persist in the attempt or not. We will let the debate continue, but the hon. Gentleman is right to say that there is plenty of time.”
“Order. Before the hon. Lady responds to that intervention, I know it is Friday but you do not intervene on an intervention, and interventions are short. They are not speeches.”
“I know that the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) is in Westminster Hall this very minute. He has double-booked himself, as he would.”
“As the only female MP to be sanctioned by the Chinese Communist party for highlighting Uyghur slave labour in supply chains, I will join the right hon. Lady in paying close attention to the Minister’s response.”