Sir Roger Gale
MP for Herne Bay and Sandwich · Conservative · United Kingdom
“In welcoming the Prime Minister to his place, let me say that I noticed his criticism of the water companies—a justified criticism, in many cases. May I direct his attention to the predatory activities of another private company?”
“The Secretary of State appears to think it is scaremongering to suggest that, with effect from this weekend, passenger and freight traffic using the channel tunnel and the port of Dover will be disrupted as a result of the European entry and exit system.”
“Before I call Esther McVey to move the motion, and then the Minister to respond, I remind Members that they may make a speech only with the prior permission of the Member in charge of the debate. No such notice has been given.”
“As the Minister has indicated, over the spring bank holiday there was chaos at Dover, at St Pancras and at the channel tunnel because of the failure of the EES. The French authorities were quite simply not prepared or able to implement the facilities properly.”
“This House has the capacity to criticise, but it also has the capacity to be fair. The Minister probably finds himself between a rock and a cliff face in a situation that he did not make himself. That does not absolve the MCA from the criticism that has rightly been levelled at it earlier today.”
“To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what measures the Government have put in place to ensure that in the coming holiday season, travellers and business freight are not delayed at our ports, our international railway stations and our airports as a result of the imposition of the European entry and exit system.”
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“(2) For subsection (1) substitute— “(1) A person who has been convicted of, or cautioned for, an offence in circumstances where— (a) the conduct constituting the offence was sexual activity between persons of the same sex, or (b) the offence was committed under Section 1 of the Street Offences Act 1959, may apply to the Secretary of State for the conviction or caution to become a disregarded conviction or caution.” (3) In subsection (2) after first “caution” insert “received in the circumstances set out in subsection (1)(a)”.’ A new clause that allows a process allowing the Secretary of State to disregard convictions and cautions received under section 1 of the Street Offences Act 1959.”
“New clause 46— Power of Secretary of State to disregard convictions or cautions: Loitering or soliciting for purposes of prostitution — ‘(1) Section 92 of the Street Offences Act 1959 is amended as follows.”
“(4) Section 54 is amended as follows— (a) in subsection (2) for “sections 51A, 52, 53 and 53A” substitute “section 53A”, and (b) at end insert— “(4) In sections 52 and 53 “sexual exploitation” means conduct by which a person manipulates, deceives, coerces or controls another person to undertake sexual activity.”.” An amendment to the Sexual Offences Act 2003, specifically in sections 52 and 53, replace “prostitution for gain’” with “sexual exploitation of an adult”. New clause 45— Loitering and soliciting: repeal — “Section 1 of the Street Offences Act 1959 (loitering or soliciting for purposes of prostitution) is repealed.” An amendment that repeals soliciting and loitering as an offence.”
“(5) A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is liable— (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding the general limit in a magistrates’ court or a fine (or both); (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.” New clause 44— Sexual exploitation of an adult — “(1) The Sexual Offences Act 2003 is amended as follows. (2) Section 52 is amended as follows— (a) in the title for “Causing or inciting prostitution” substitute “Sexual exploitation”, and (b) in paragraph (1)(a) for “causes or incites another person to become a prostitute” substitute “sexually exploits another person”. (3) Section 53 is amended as follows— (a) in the title for “prostitution” substitute “sexual exploitation”, and (b) in paragraph (1)(a) for “prostitution” substitute “sexual exploitation”.”
“(2) Condition A is that the words, actions, beliefs or behaviours shown or represented in the content have been artificially created or manipulated. (3) Condition B is that the content has been created or shared for the purposes of— (a) misleading a person viewing or hearing the content as to R’s real words, actions, beliefs or behaviours; (b) causing offence, alarm, distress or humiliation to— (i) R; or (ii) any other person; or (c) influencing the voting intention or activity of another person. (4) Condition C is that R has not consented to the creation or sharing of the content.”
“(4) A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is liable— (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term of 12 months; (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term of 5 years and an unlimited fine.” New clause 43— Offence of creating or sharing misleading content — “(1) A person (“P”) commits an offence if they— (a) create, using any computer or other digital technology, program, platform or application, including those which utilise artificial intelligence or machine learning; or (b) share, distribute, or otherwise provide access to, visual or audio content which shows or represents, or appears to show or represent, another person (“R”), where conditions A, B and C are met.”
“New clause 38— Senior manager liability for neglect in relation to offences committed by bodies corporate and partnerships — “(1) Where an organisation commits an offence under section 16, a person (“S”) also commits an offence if— (a) S was a senior manager of the same body corporate or partnership at the time the offence was committed under section 16; and (b) S failed to prevent the offence from being committed, or was negligent such that an offence was committed. (2) It is a defence for S to prove that they took all reasonable steps to prevent the offence being committed. (3) In this section, “body corporate”, “partnership” and “senior manager” have the meanings given in section 16.”
“New clause 36— Time to report road collision — “In section 170 of the Road Traffic Act 1988, omit subsection (6) and insert— “(6) In complying with a duty under this section to report an accident or to produce such a certificate of insurance or other evidence, as is mentioned in section 165(2)(a) of this Act, it is an offence for a driver— (a) not to do so at a police station or to a constable as soon as is reasonably practicable, and (b) not to do so within two hours of the occurrence of the accident in relation to reporting an accident, or within twenty-four hours of the occurrence of the accident in relation to the production of a certificate of insurance or other evidence.”” This new clause would amend the Road Traffic Act 1988 to reduce the time within which a driver must report a road collision in which they were involved from twenty-four hours to two hours, and make it an offence not to report an accident.”
“New clause 35— Offence of failing to remain at the scene of a traffic collision — “In section 170 of the Road Traffic Act 1988, after subsection (4) insert— “(4A) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (4) is liable— (a) if a person other than the driver of the vehicle suffered a fatal injury— (i) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years; (b if a person other than the driver of the vehicle suffered a serious non-fatal injury— (i) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or a fine not exceeding £20,000 or both; (ii) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years; (c) in any other case— (i) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or a fine not exceeding £20,000 or both; (ii) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years.”” This new clause would expand the existing offence of failing to stop after a road collision to create more serious penalties for failing to stop after collisions which result in death or serious injury.”
“(4) In this section— “connected person” : a person is connected with another person if— (a) they are married to each other, (b) they are civil partners of each other, (c) one is the parent of the other, or (d) they are siblings (whether of the full blood or the half blood); “detaining” : references to a person detaining a dog include the person— (a) inducing it to remain with the person or anyone else, or (b) causing it to be detained; “maximum summary term for either-way offences” , with reference to imprisonment for an offence, means— (a) if the offence is committed before the time when paragraph 24(2) of Schedule 22 to the Sentencing Act 2020 comes into force, 6 months; (b) if the offence is committed after that time, 12 months; “taking” : references to a person taking a dog include the person— (a) causing or inducing it to accompany the person or anyone else, or (b) causing it to be taken.” This new clause makes provision for the creation of an offence of taking a dog from the lawful control of another person.”
“(3) A person who commits an offence under this section is liable— (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding the maximum summary term for either-way offences or a fine (or both); (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or a fine (or both).”
“New clause 33— Taking of dog without lawful authority — “(1) A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, the person takes or detains a dog in England— (a) so as to remove it from the lawful control of any person, or (b) so as to keep it from the lawful control of a person who is entitled to have lawful control of it. (2) No offence is committed if the person taking or detaining the dog is connected with any of the following— (a) any person entitled to have lawful control of it; (b) where it is removed from the lawful control of a person, that person.”
“(7) In section 32— (a) for the heading, substitute “Harassment etc aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”; (b) in subsection (1), omit “racially or religiously aggravated” and insert “aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”.” This new clause would include offences motivated by hostility towards an individual’s disability status, sexual orientation or transgender identity (or perception thereof) in those which are aggravated under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.”
“(6) In section 31— (a) for the heading, substitute “Public order offences aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”; (b) in subsection (1), omit “racially or religiously aggravated” and insert “aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”.”
“(4) In section 29— (a) for the heading, substitute “Assaults aggravated on grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”; (b) in subsection (1), omit “racially or religiously aggravated” and insert “aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”. (5) In section 30— (a) for the heading, substitute “Criminal damage aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”; (b) in subsection (1), omit “racially or religiously aggravated” and insert “aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”.”
“(3) In section 28— (a) for the heading, substitute “Meaning of “aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity””; (b) in subsection (1), omit “racially or religiously aggravated” and insert “aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity”; (c) in subsection (1)(a), omit from “based on” to the end of sub-subsection (a) and insert— — (i) the victim’s membership (or presumed membership) of a racial group; (ii) the victim’s membership (or presumed membership) of a religious group; (iii) a disability (or presumed disability) of the victim; (iv) the sexual orientation (or presumed sexual orientation) of the victim; or (v) the victim being (or being presumed to be) transgender, or”; (d) in subsection (1)(b), omit from “hostility towards” to the end of sub-subsection (b) and insert— — (i) members of a racial group based on their membership of that group; (ii) members of a religious group based on their membership of that group; (iii) persons who have a disability or a particular disability; (iv) persons who are of a particular sexual orientation; or (v) persons who are transgender.”; (e) in subsection (2), in the definition of “membership” leave out “racial or religious” and insert “relevant”.”
“(8) In paragraph (7)(b), for the first “the” substitute “any”.” This new clause brings the definition of human trafficking in the Modern Slavery Act 2015 in line with the UN definition, particularly removing the requirement for exploitation to have involved travel. New clause 32— Aggravated offences: hostility towards transgender identity, sexual orientation and disability — “(1) The Crime and Disorder Act 1998 is amended as follows. (2) For the first cross-heading under Part II, substitute “Offences aggravated on the grounds of race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity: England and Wales”.”
“New clause 29— Human trafficking — “(1) Section 2 of the Modern Slavery Act 2015 is amended as follows. (2) In subsection (1), for “arranges or facilitates the travel of” substitute “recruits, transports, transfers, harbours or receives through force, coercion, fraud, deception, the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability, or the giving or receiving of payments or benefits”. (3) In subsection (2), for “travel” substitute “matters mentioned in subsection (1) or to V being exploited”. (4) Omit subsections (3) to (5). (5) In paragraph (6)(a), for “arranging or facilitating takes” substitute “matters mentioned in subsection (1) take”. (6) Omit paragraph (6)(b). (7) In paragraph (7)(a), for “arranging or facilitating takes” substitute “matters mentioned in subsection (1) take”.”
“(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable to the same penalties as apply to an offence committed under section 15A of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.” This new clause would create an offence of using, creating or sharing online or digital tools which simulate sexual communication with a child. New clause 28— Complicity in joint enterprise cases— “In section 8 (abettors in misdemeanours) of the Accessories and Abettors Act 1861, after “shall” insert “, by making a significant contribution to its commission,”.” This new clause would clarify the definition of “joint enterprise” (or secondary liability), so that an individual must make a “significant contribution” to an offence committed by another to be criminally liable.”
“New clause 26— Offence of simulating sexual communication with a child— “(1) A person commits an offence if they— (a) use; (b) design; (c) distribute; or (d) provide access to a tool to simulate sexual communication with a person under 16. (2) For the purposes of this section— (a) a communication is sexual if— (i) any part of it relates to sexual activity, or (ii) a reasonable person would, in all the circumstances but regardless of any person's purpose, consider any part of the communication to be sexual, (b) “tool” includes, but is not limited to, any computer or other digital technology, program, platform or application, including those which utilise artificial intelligence or machine learning.”
“(2) In subsection (1), omit from “to” to the end of the subsection and insert— “possess, create, share or distribute any item that— (a) contains advice or guidance about abusing children sexually; or (b) contains advice or guidance about the creation of content which depicts the sexual abuse of children.” (3) In subsection (2)(b)(ii), after “sexually” insert— “or about the creation of content which depicts the sexual abuse of children” (4) In subsection (8)— (a) after “sexually”” insert “(or “the sexual abuse of children”), (b) omit “(but not pseudo-photographs)” and insert “, including pseudo-photographs”, (c) after second “or Northern Ireland” insert— ““creation of content” includes using any tool to create visual or audio content;”, (d) at end insert— ““tool” includes, but is not limited to, any computer or other digital technology, program, platform or application, including those which utilise artificial intelligence or machine learning.”” This new clause would expand the existing offence of possessing guides about abusing children sexually to include guides on creating child sexual abuse content, including through the use of artificial intelligence or machine learning.”
“(4B) In assessing whether the hardship arising from the offender’s disqualification would be exceptional a court may take account of— (a) any circumstances relating to the offender’s economic circumstances or location of residence which would make it exceptionally hard for them to access essential services and facilities; (b) any hardship that would be incurred by the offender’s family or others who are disabled or who depend on the offender to provide care for them; and (c) any other circumstances which it believes would make the hardship exceptional.”” New clause 25— Offence of possession of guidance on creating child sexual abuse content— “(1) Section 69 (Possession of paedophile manual) of the Serious Crime Act 2015 is amended as follows.”
“(2) In section 1, after subsection (2) insert— “(2A) It is a defence to a charge under subsection (1) to prove that— (a) the person’s actions were necessary for the detection or prevention of crime; or (b) the person’s actions were justified as being in the public interest.” (3) In section 3, after subsection (5) insert— “(5A) It is a defence to a charge under subsection (1) to prove that— (a) the person’s actions were necessary for the detection or prevention of crime; or (b) the person’s actions were justified as being in the public interest.”” New clause 24— Definition of exceptional hardship — “In section 35 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, after subsection (4) insert— “(4A) In subsection (4)(b), the hardship that would be caused by an offender’s disqualification should be regarded as exceptional only if it is significantly greater than the hardship that would be experienced by a large majority of other drivers if disqualification were imposed on them.”
“New clause 18— Definition of unauthorised access to computer programs or data— “In section 17 of the Computer Misuse Act 1990, at the end of subsection (5) insert— “(c) he does not reasonably believe that the person entitled to control access of the kind in question to the program or data would have consented to that access if he had known about the access and the circumstances of it, including the reasons for seeking it; (d) he is not empowered by an enactment, by a rule of law, or by the order of a court or tribunal to access of the kind in question to the program or data.”” New clause 19— Defences to charges under the Computer Misuse Act 1990— “(1) The Computer Misuse Act 1990 is amended as follows.”
“(2) In each of the sections listed below, after “a road or other public place” insert “, or a private place adjacent to a road,”— section 1 (causing death by dangerous driving); section 1A (causing serious injury by dangerous driving); section 2 (dangerous driving); section 2B (causing death by careless, or inconsiderate, driving); section 2C (causing serious injury by careless, or inconsiderate, driving); section 3 (careless, and inconsiderate, driving).” This new clause would extend the Road Traffic Act 1988 so that a range of driving offences can be committed in private places adjacent to roads as well as on public roads or in public places.”
“(7) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable— (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, or a fine, or both; (b) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months, or a fine, or both.” New clause 16— Amendments to the Road Traffic Act 1988 — “(1) The Road Traffic Act 1988 is amended as follows.”
“(3) For the purposes of subsection (1)(d) A “ought to know” that which a reasonable person in possession of the same information would know. (4) In proceedings for an offence under this section it is a defence for A to show that— (a) in engaging in the behaviour in question, A believed that he or she was acting in B’s best interests, and (b) the behaviour was in all the circumstances reasonable. (5) A defence under subsection (4) requires A to have shown— (a) sufficient evidence of the facts, and (b) that the contrary is not proved beyond reasonable doubt. (6) The defence in subsection (4) is not available to A in relation to behaviour that causes B to fear that violence will be used against B.”
“New clause 12— Controlling or coercive behaviour by persons providing psychotherapy or counselling services— “(1) A person (“A”) commits an offence if— (a) A is a person providing or purporting to provide psychotherapy or counselling services to another person (“B”), (b) A repeatedly or continuously engages in behaviour towards B that is controlling or coercive, (c) the behaviour has a serious effect on B, and (d) A knows or ought to know that the behaviour will or may have a serious effect on B. (2) A’s behaviour has a “serious effect” on B if— (a) it causes B to fear, on at least two occasions, that violence will be used against B, or (b) it causes B psychological harm which has a substantial adverse effect on B's usual day-to-day activities.”
“(3) In this section “serious physical harm” means harm that amounts to death or serious personal injury for the purposes of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. (4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a minimum of seven years.” This new clause is intended to create a specific offence of “One Punch Manslaughter”, with a minimum sentence of seven years.”
“New clause 9— One-punch manslaughter— “(1) A person (P) is guilty of an offence where they cause the death of another person (B) as a result of a single punch in the circumstances described in subsection (2). (2) The circumstances referred to in subsection (1) are— (a) P administered a single punch to the head or neck of B; (b) there was significant risk that the punch would cause serious physical harm to B; (c) P was or ought to have been aware of the risk mentioned in paragraph (b); (d) P did not administer the punch referred to in paragraph (a) in self-defence; and (e) B’s death was caused by— (i) the impact of the punch, or (ii) further impact or injury resulting from the single punch.”
“(3) For the purposes of this section— (a) “Sexual activity”— (i) means any acts which a reasonable person would, in all the circumstances but regardless of any person’s purpose, consider to be sexual, (ii) requires A and B to be in each other’s presence, (b) “Facilitates” includes, but is not limited to, causing or allowing to be displayed or published, including digitally, any advertisement in respect of sexual activity involving A. (4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable— (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or both; (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years.” This new clause would make it an offence to facilitate or profit from the prostitution of another person.”
“New clause 8— Offence of enabling or profiting from prostitution— “(1) A person or body corporate (C) commits an offence if they— (a) facilitate, whether online or offline, or (b) gain financially from a person (A) engaging in sexual activity with another person (B) in exchange for payment or other benefit, or the promise of payment or other benefit, and the conditions in subsection (2) are met. (2) The conditions are— (a) that C knows or ought to know that A is engaging in, or intends to engage in, sexual activity for payment or other benefit; and (b) that C is not a dependent child of A.”
“(2) A person also commits an offence under this section if the person arranges or facilitates the activity set out in subsection (1). (3) A person who commits an offence under this section is liable— (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding seven years, (b) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding the general limit in a magistrates’ court or a fine (or both).” This new clause makes it an offence to exercise control over another person’s residence for the purpose of criminal activity by means of coercion, threats or abuse of a position of vulnerability.”
“(2) A ceases to have parental responsibility for all children, for a time specified by the sentencing court or until an application by A to the family court to reinstate parental responsibility has been approved.”’ New clause 7— Occupation or control of another person’s residence for criminal purposes “Cuckooing” — “(1) A person commits an offence if the person occupies or exercises control over the home of another person (V) in connection with the commission of a criminal offence or offences using any of the following methods— (a) the threat or use of force or other coercive behaviour; (b) abduction, kidnap or false imprisonment; (c) fraud or other deception; (d) the abuse of power or a position of vulnerability; (e) the giving of payments or other benefits to achieve the consent of a person who has control over V.”
“New clause 2— Removal of parental responsibility for men convicted of sexual offences against children — ‘(1) After section 2 (parental responsibility for children) of the Children Act 1989, insert— “2A Prisoners: suspension of parental responsibility (1) This section applies where— (a) a person (“A”) has been found guilty of a serious sexual offence involving or relating to a child or children; and (b) A had parental responsibility for a child or children at the time at which the offence was committed.”
“With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government new clause 62— Sexual activity with a corpse . Government new clause 87— Manslaughter: sexual conduct aggravating factor. Government new clause 88— Length of terrorism sentence with fixed licence period: Northern Ireland. Government new clause 89— Reviews of sentencing: time limits. Government new clause 94— Cuckooing . Government new clause 95— Cuckooing: interpretation . Government new clause 103— Restricting parental responsibility when sentencing for rape of a child . Government new clause 104— Report on duty to make prohibited steps orders and power to repeal .”
“At the moment, we have plenty of time but may I gently urge conciseness rather than self-indulgence? That relates particularly to interventions, which should be interventions and not speeches. I call the Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee.”
“Before we proceed, I would like to make a couple of observations. These are very serious and sensitive issues that deserve, and are clearly going to get, proper debate. In his closing remarks, the hon. Member for Stockton North (Alex Cunningham) indicated that there are two days for this debate. Earlier, an hon. Member intervened on the Minister to raise a subject that she had not commented upon. There was a good reason for that: it is listed not on the order paper for today but on the order paper for the second day. I ask hon. Members to make quite sure that, when they are discussing these issues, they are discussing those listed on the order paper for today, in the understanding that there will be a second day. There are 18 hon. Members wishing to speak. I may have missed one, so there may be more.”
“The hon. Gentleman is fully aware that ministerial correspondence is not a matter for the Chair. Happily, neither is the Minister’s diary. However, those on the Front Bench will have heard the hon. Gentleman’s remarks. I trust that they will respond courteously and swiftly.”
“Order. There are 10 Members still seeking to speak. There is considerable expertise in the Chamber tonight—I appreciate that—and I am sure that all Members will want to make a succinct contribution. Frankly, the Chairman of the Defence Committee confined his remarks to 12 minutes, and I hope and expect that other colleagues on both sides of the House will do likewise.”
“Order. I will have to put a 10-minute time limit on speeches after the next speaker to get everybody in. That is not an invitation, Mr Jones, to speak for more than 12 minutes.”
“I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving notice of his point of order. I have not had any indication that the Government intend to make a statement on this subject, but he has placed his point on the record.”
“I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving the Chair notice of his question. He will understand immediately that the Chair is not responsible for ministerial correspondence. I have noted what he has said, and of course it is the case that all Members should be entitled to receive timely replies. I trust that point will have been taken on board by those on the Government Front Bench. Presentation of Bill Tenant Farming Commissioner Presentation and First Reading (Standing Order No. 57) Tim Farron presented a Bill to establish a Tenant Farming Commissioner; to make provision about the powers and duties of the commissioner, including powers in respect of payments under an Environmental Land Management scheme in cases where a tenant farmer has been evicted; and for connected purposes.”
“I must draw the House’s attention to the fact that financial privilege is engaged by Lords amendments 35, 36, 42, 112, 117, 128 and 132 to 134. If those Lords amendments are agreed to, I will cause the customary entry waiving Commons financial privilege to be entered in the Journal . Clause 19 Power to impose conduct requirements”
“With this it will be convenient to discuss: Lords amendment 12, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 13, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 19, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 26, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 27, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 28, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 31, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 32, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendment 38, Government motion to disagree, and Government amendment (a) in lieu. Lords amendment 104, and Government motion to disagree. Lords amendments 1 to 8, 10, 11, 14 to 18, 20 to 25, 29 to 30, 33 to 37, 39 to 103 and 105 to 148.”
“Order. So as to accommodate everybody, I am going to have to reduce the time limit, after the next speaker, to six minutes. I call Charlotte Nichols.”
“Order. I make no criticism of the fact that Members are using the time made available to them, but we will have to reduce the time limit again I am afraid. After the next speaker it will go down to five minutes.”
“Before I call Mr Perkins, may I inform the House that permission has been given to the House Photographer to move around parts of the Chamber and take photographs in the course of this debate—that has consent?”
“Order. I do not wish to appear churlish, and the hon. Gentleman will be fully aware that I have a personal interest in these matters, but it would be helpful if he were to relate the catalogue to the reasons for extending the lease.”
“Order. The hon. Gentleman was absolutely correct to say that that goes slightly wider than the scope of the Bill under discussion. I take his point, but that is perhaps a matter for another day.”