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  1. “and send a message. I'm just starting to speak. Anybody interested in listening to some stories or getting tips on interviewing or tips on interviewing for a job? I'm here.”

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  2. “Maybe the wine was a little corked. Maybe it was just the way they stored it. But as soon as he heard that, like he realized that it translated for him in, okay, when somebody in the choir's got a voice that isn't hitting what the rest of us are hitting, it's a problem. And he understood that. And he looked at me and he said, thanks. And I knew that was the end of the story. And as soon as he said it, I went to the keyboard and I wrote the whole thing out.”

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  3. “That's exactly it. I knew this wine was no good. And so the bartender said to me, well, how'd you know? And we got into a conversation and he had told me that he had been in a choir. He said, I'm not really a bartender. And he explained that when he was young, he was a singer and he had actually gone to the Vatican and sang in a choir for the Pope. So I said, okay, fine. Then you understand this. When you put that wine to your nose, all right, listen to it. You can tell that as there's something certainly in the taste, maybe you can get it from the smell. It starts out okay, but there's somebody singing off key in there. And I don't know if it's the way the wine was stored, but in the middle of that taste of wine are off keynotes. And I don't know maybe.”

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  4. “much about wine he was like a college kid the bartender and so he said well look you know it's not cheap and i said wait a minute let me let me smell that wine because he brought the wine back i said poor me glass And so I swirl it around, I put it up to my nose, and I said, no, it's no good. And the way I said it, I must have said it with such conviction that the bartender said, oh, okay.”

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  5. “Somebody instruction when the wine list came before me, I could give the weight instruction. This is what I want without feeling like I didn't know what I was doing. So I have this conversation with the women and a couple nights later I said, you know what? Let me just write down the good shit, the good shit that stuck. And I'm sitting at a bar and I'm writing down all the stuff, the good shit that stuck, and the bartender's pouring drinks, and a waiter came back with a Italian dessert wine. And the white wine, and the waiter said to the bartender, the people they don't like it. They say there's something wrong with it. And so it was Vincento. And so the bartender was a young guy, and I think that he really didn't know.”

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  6. “And in a chance meeting with a woman who was in a position, it was a terrible position. She had loved her husband, her husband had died. She was alone. Time had passed. She was ready to go out and meet somebody again. And she said, I'm older. I've never really dated. I don't know what to do. And I said to her, join a wine class because you will meet people and just by the way they talk about their wines, you're going to know if you should like them or not. And she said, wow, that's a good idea. And something in that conversation opened up a pathway. And then I was sitting, I went to a bar, and I'm sitting down. And remember, this whole thing started with me just wanting to be able to give some.”

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  7. “I come back and we start drinking and like naturally after a little while I've just been driving for twenty hours and now I'm drinking and I'm starting to float away and he's getting more lucid and this was before the drugs came out and I said to him Harry you're a writer do you keep a diary? How can you drink like this and do all these drugs and remember anything? And he looked at me and he smiled and he said Boy The good shit sticks and it was that line that saved me when I needed to write the wine story because I always knew the good shit sticks the moments that were truly great were the moments that I needed and almost ten years.”

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  8. “And Harry is laid out on a lazy boy chair with like an empty bottle of rum on his belly. And I get close to him and he just, his head is just moving around. He's getting himself out of sleep. What do you want? I said, like, Harry, I just read Feast of Snakes. I just drove 20 hours straight to see you. Well, why don't you drive over to Gator Gulch and let's get us some alcohol? I drive over to the Gator Gulch, and I think that was what it was called, something like that. And they've already got like a carton filled with alcohol.”

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  9. “Beast of snakes He wrote another book called Car about a guy eating a car. This guy was out there. And as soon as I read these books, I just said, I got to meet this guy. I got to meet this guy. So I started to tell people, you know, I'm going to go meet Harry Cruz. And people started looking at me saying, are you sure? I said, well, what do you mean? And he said, well, his drinking is legendary plus the amount of drugs he puts in his body, you're not going to be able to stay with this guy. You're going to hurt yourself. And so naturally, I get in my car. I drive 20 straight hours down to Gainesville, Florida. This is when I was living in New York. And I go drive right up to his house and knock on the door. And there's no response. Knock again, no response. And I could almost hear like a snoring. So I just opened the door.”

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  10. “Wrote a book called Feast of Snakes, and if you're a young man, and Harry Cruz also wrote for Esquire, if you're a young man and you don't even know how this book would translate now. But it was a real kind of macho”

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  11. “The ultimate undone homework assignment that your boss has basically bankrolled for a couple of years. And so you basically know that you can't go in with any more big ideas. Until that is completed. And so it really affected me, but there was nothing I could do about it. And I put these notes away in the basement. And then we had this terrible ice storm. I was living in North Carolina at the time. And everything turned into mold in my basement. And all the notes got black. So I had like no notes of anything. Basically everything had been wiped out. My notes were ground zero afterward. And now like how am I going to do this? But you know, it was a writer taught me something very early in my career. His name was Harry Cruz. I don't know if you've ever heard of him.”

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  12. “But there was just nothing that would come out of me. It just wasn't like a wine that wasn't ready to be served. It needed to be in the barrel. Only you don't know how long it needs to be in the barrel, and you're feeling all this guilt. And finally, I just took all my, I had these copious notes in boxes and I put them down in the basement. Just, okay, let me just get it out of my face. Because every time I would go into my office, I would see these boxes and I would just flinch.”

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  13. “time and nothing would come out. Like my eyes would be bleeding and every time I would have to go into the office to see the editor like I knew We both knew where's the story. Years started passing. And he started to do things to try to help me and push it out of me. Whether it was lighthearted or, hey, you know, it's like years now, the movie sideways, which is about wine had come out. Wine is really hot now. Now is the time. So the editor is really trying to push this story out of me in the best way he can. might be lighthearted with a little offhanded joke. It might be, hey, come on. It's years now. We're waiting for the story. Movie sideways comes out. It's a big hit in the wine world. And now he's saying, you know, this is a time that the story needs to come out. I can't do it. I go to the computer almost night after night, and it's the most painful thing because I never.”

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  14. “And so I was feeling so good about the experience. And right after that, the planes came in and took the towers down. And now I've got to write the story about this. And the editor, he now knows, he's basically bankrolled this thing for two years. Same guy who bankrolled me going up against Julio Cesar Chavez, bankrolled the wine story. I'm flying around the world with wines in France, wines in Italy, the wines in Germany, going to California, and he allowed me to go through the whole experience. And now he knows something amazing has got to come out of this because I saw how much he put in and we all know this seminal moment in American history. So he's got to step up to it. And I couldn't. I would stare in front of the computer for hours at a time.”

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  15. “Utter joy learning all about this amazing beverage that transformed lives, meeting all these friends along the way, wherever you would go, it was like traveling around the world again. It would just open up a party and that party would invite you to another party and another party and another party. And so there I am having this amazing experience. And then on top of it, for one night I was the Somalia. And not only that, but at the end we're toward the middle of the night, somebody. And a few days later, somebody who came in that night, and nobody knew that I wasn't the real Somalier, somebody came in like three days later and asked for me.”

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  16. “Brown zero like a week later, the military took me around in a Humvee. And that guy still was so overwhelmed that I was almost knocked out when I saw it because I remember seeing like there was this thin coat of white dust over everything. And you could see on a parking lot this coat of dust over the cars. And I actually said to the guy in the army who was taking me around, I said, why don't those people come back and get their cars? And he put his hand on my shoulder and he said, Cal, those cars don't have any owners anymore. And it's very hard to explain the enormity, but I just couldn't write. How could I translate this experience of”

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  17. “And I can take a great moment and make a great wine out of it. And I can take a great wine and make a great moment out of it. In any event, the evening transpired and it was great, but it was profound. It was also funny. I'd spill wine on people's down the glass because I had to be moving really quick. There was a lot of people. And that's inexcusable. That should never happen here. That bottle is on the house. Everybody at the table, oh, this is great. And people at the adjacent tables saying, come over here, spill some here. Spill some here. And we get through the night. It's a delightful time and really memorable. Now I go home to write the story and start to go through my notes because it's taken me two years to get this experience and the planes crash into the World Trade Center. And I remember going to the...”

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  18. “And she just like broke out in tears. And then the husband had never tasted the champagne before, but they both poured it. They both put it up. And oh cow, like we never knew what champagne was before this moment. And it teaches you that the wine and the moment are inextricably linked.”

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  19. “Come in, he brought his wife. It's like the first couple of the evening, and I seated them right next to a window so you're looking down on New York from one hundred and six stories or whatever. And I had a bottle of champagne, Lord Dough champagne from France, which it basically was like a $10 bottle of champagne. But nobody knew that. And this had been served at the Assembl ⁇ e Nationale in France. It was like basic bottle of champagne. But I took it out to their couple. They were celebrating their anniversary. And I walked over with a flourish, and I announced that I was serving Lord Dough Champagne and that it had never been served at these heights before, and it would never be served at these heights again. This woman looks at me. She didn't know who I was.”

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  20. “To be trained, to be the Somalier for a night at windows of the world which sold for a time more wine than any other restaurant on the planet at the top of the World Trade Center. And I had no idea where this adventure was going to send me, but it took me two years to learn all about wine because you then find out you have to go to these places where they make the wine and you have to understand the difference between all of the varietals and the wine less of windows of the world. It was hundreds of pages to know all those wines. It was almost impossible. But you start to get an idea. And I had world class Somaliers teaching me and for one night I was the Somalier at Windows on the World. It was an amazing experience. One of the great things I did is I had a guy who I knew.”

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  21. “That was great. I learned how to lose weight by going to Jack Lane, who was the exercise champion of his day. And I went through, learned how to barbecue through Stephen Reichlin, author of the barbecue Bible. And one of the last things I did was go to learn about wine. Because if you are a man, you want to have a feeling that you can go into a restaurant with a group of people. The wine list comes to you and you don't feel like, oh man, what am I going to do? I don't know what's what here. And then you don't know if the waiter is going to try and unload a lousy bottle that they can't sell on you or a bottle for a lot of money. You're helpless. So I wanted to learn enough to know how to walk into a restaurant with competence in order what I want. And the solution to that was”

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  22. “I only had it once. I only had it once, and what happened was I was writing for Esquire and working on a column called The Perfect Man and the idea was basically in line with this conversation, I was going to take all my flaws and all my mistakes and then go to experts who were going to teach me how to overcome them. And then I was going to write about the experience so that everybody could have the collected wisdom. And so I learned how to walk through using Alexander technique. I learned how to publicly speak by going in a boxing ring, what Michael Buffer and announcing a fight.”

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  23. “That's right. And not only that. But the other thing is just put yourself in a position where you have no money and you need to write something to make money. If you need to eat, unless you can find a bar that's putting out olives and little chicken fingers. You're going to write and get paid so that you can eat.”

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  24. “can help you through even better, but nothing should really stop you from writing. First, as an excuse to put off writing, I need to make the school make me write. You make you write.”

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  25. “I would tell them just right. And the great thing about it is, okay, I'm not knocking the schooling because as we talked about earlier, I owe everything to the University of Missouri Journalism School. It set me on my way and the connections. On the other hand, all you need to do to be a writer is to write. And not only that, but all you need to do is to find places that are interested in taking your writing. It doesn't have to be for much money, but you can go out especially now. You don't even need a physical publication. Now you can just create a blog on the internet. Just start writing. So I would advise people to judge, if you want to be a writer, write and just keep writing and keep writing. If you have the means and the will to go to school and get a teacher or teachers that can”

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  26. “Doing the interview understands the role that needs to be filled and understands human behavior, they can ask questions to the applicants that will fill that role in a really good way. That's my hunch.”

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  27. “If they want to travel, you get a chance to learn like four languages, five languages. And it's going to be so relaxed. All you got to do is just go into the class and then meet somebody from the opposite sex who speaks language and you're going to be going out and talking in the new language. And you can do that over and over again in college. You got that time. One of the things if it was me knowing that I wanted to be a writer or knowing that I'm now going to be speaking and I'm going to be speaking about questions that people ask when they're hiring, I would love to have studied human behavior because I know that when a company is looking to fill a job, if a person”

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  28. “Okay, I would not give myself one word of advice, and I'll tell you why. Because if I would have given myself that advice at thirty, it would have moved me maybe one centimeter in one direction that put my life in a different place. And I needed to be. On a very specific seat on a very specific bus, at a very specific time in order to meet the woman that became my wife and as a mother of my kids. So I couldn't have that moved in any way. I needed everything to happen just the way it did in order to have that moment, in order to have the rest of my life. So after that, I'm sure there are times where I've given myself advice really what the time I need advice was when I was in college and there was so much offered and so little I took it advantage of.”

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  29. “I don't know what reaction that would get, but I would like to see the reaction on people's faces when they saw that. Because I think that listening is not an art form. Well, it is an art form. People just aren't using it as an art form, but it is an art form. And a lot of great things could be achieved through listening.”

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  30. “Money for that lesson, the teacher said, No, this lesson you get for free. This doesn't cost you anything. So I knew this story cold. I'd read his book. I'd seen the documentary many times. And I'm watching this film. And when he falls down early on to get that lesson, it's shot in a way where the pole literally comes out of the screen right at your head. Okay. So the first time you're just swooning, not swooning, you're swaying immediately, like to the right or the left to get out of the way. Okay, so now I'm watching the second time. I know this pole is coming out my head. Every time, on the ninth time, polls coming straight at my head, I'm ducking out of the way. It was that visceral and experienced and the direction was just amazing. I love the acting. And so if you can see that movie. On 3D IMAX, please do. It's just wonderful.”

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  31. “I told I warned him. I say if you got a few heights, don't come. Go watch Robert De Niro and the apprentice or whatever they call that movie. What hit me was there's this one scene in the movie where he's learning how to walk the tightrope. And this is back in France. It's where he's from. And he's like two steps away from getting back to the platform. And he slips and has to catch the wire with his hand. And he's like 50 feet above ground or something. And he manages to get back to the platform. And he comes down and his teacher is there. And it's teacher basically says to him, it's the last two steps. The people who die, they die in those last two steps. Remember that. And in fact, Philippe Petite was paying him to get those lessons. And when Philippe Petite went to give him”

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  32. “I'm begging him. No, don't do it. Don't do it. Please don't do it. I completely suspended my disbelief, and let me tell you how much I started taking people night after night to see this movie. Again and again, because I want to gauge their reactions.”

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  33. “And then the police are coming, and the police had been haunting him for years because wherever he would try and juggle or walk the wire in order to get people to give change, they would be trying to chase him away. And so we had this cat and mouse game going with the police all these years. And now he's on the wire more than 100 stories above New York City. And the police are there and they can't touch him. And he can do whatever he wants on this wire. And so like the tables are turning. And yet. In this movie, when he steps on that wire, I knew everything that was going to happen on that walk”

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  34. “Here's the thing. I saw this movie nine times. The walk I saw this movie nine times, but you gotta see it on 3D IMAX because one of the innovative things about this film on 3D IMAX is you literally feel like you are on the wire. I mean, people left the theater vomiting. I knew everything about that story because, as you mentioned, I worked at Windows of the World. When I was serving wine at the top of Windows of the World every day, I was looking down at basically what Philippe Petite was looking down at when he was crossing this wire. And I seen the documentary, so I knew that basically not only did he walk on the wire, but he laid down on the wire, on his back.”

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  35. “Okay, I would mention that, but something happened to me recently where a documentary and a movie came together that provided this amazing experience. The documentary was called Man on Wire, and it was about Filipites walk on wire across the towers of the World Trade Center. And it's amazing documentary. Everything that he had to go through to almost like a spy or an espionage agent figure out how to get up on the roof. We're not even talking about how do you walk a rope? That's one thing. But then to wonder, how do you get to the top of the World Trade Center as it's being built and get a wire from one side to the other to stabilize it at night when nobody's watching? And the documentary takes you through the whole thing. It's just amazing.”

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  36. “You know, it's a really interesting question. I probably would have told you. There's a movie Cinema Paradiso. Oh, great. You love that movie”

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  37. “His advertisements and it worked. So it's a great, the book is just filled with little tips like that that will make it so much easier for anybody who's got to get up and give a speech.”

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  38. “He went back to his room and he's feeling horrible about it because he loved being on the radio. He loved communicating. And he wondered, what can I do in order to get my job back? So I guess FDR was doing the fireside chats and he realized how riveting those were. So he got those chats and he started to read them. But what he did was he would look at the words and then like almost memorize the phrase in his head, then look up and then say the words conversationally. So he wasn't trying to memorize them by reading it off the page. He would just take a few of the words, then look up, give you those words, look down. He would never speak while he was looking down. And then he went back to radio, and that's how he did.”

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  39. “There's this great anecdote in this book that really helped me as I was preparing to give my speech because it's hard to memorize a speech. And then I'm reading about Ronald Reagan, known as a great communicator, American president. You know, when he spoke, he riveted people. And when he was a young man, again, we're talking about basically the same age as the people you just mentioned. What would you recommend for the high school senior? Actually, Reagan was just getting out of college and he got a job in radio in Iowa. And he was very good conversationally on the air. Then it came time to read the advertisements. And for some reason, he was so stiff and awkward reading these advertisements that the advertisers basically said, get him off the air and they fired him.”

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  40. “Yeah, you hit me at the right time with this question. It's written by James C. Humes. And there's for anyone who wants to speak, and if you're a high school senior at some point, you're going to have to get up and speak. It's a great book because there's all kinds of tips on everything about speaking.”

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  41. “Reading now, so it's just how do I have to press? It's a book called Speak Like Churchill, Stan Like Lincoln. I'm carrying it around with me as well.”

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  42. “There you go. And think of that. If you took that money and put it into lifting that same kid, who knows what would happen? You know, there's DNA involved. There's a lot of stuff involved. Just made me realize why aren't we putting the resources in before Rather than just paying this money out, we don't even know that we're putting it out. And so it's just a book that makes you see the world differently. Another book that I would recommend, it's a book that I'm reading now.”

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  43. “Yeah. And Tony Morrison's great African-American writer. And this book is called Between the World and Me, and it's by a guy named Ta Nahisi Coates. And it's a letter to his son about being a blackmail in America. And I think it is required reading just because if we want to understand what is going on, we see what's happening in Ferguson, Missouri. It just seems like it's over month after month after month we see protests and problems. And this is just a way of redirecting your eyesight to a place that you normally wouldn't go. As I'm reading it, I was walking down the street and I passed a news box with the Los Angeles Times in it. And on the front page there was this statistic that said that basically every juvenile that's incarcerated in the state of California, it cost us two hundred sixty thousand dollars a year.”

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  44. “Wow What a question Okay One book will be That people should read. And in fact, I got it with me right now. One of the blurbs on this book actually says, as Tony Morrison, this is required reading.”

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  45. “Know what a great book is. And so my gifts tend to judge what the person needs and then fill that need. So no different in wine. If somebody's having a steak, I'm probably not going to give them a Riesling. I'll give them something to complement the steak.”

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  46. “Hard question to answer because it's almost like wine. Every meal you're going to have another experience with different people, different food. So if I meet somebody, I like to give books that I've loved and like I mentioned meeting Alex. And he says to me, he didn't know how to write a book. And he's like, I want to write a great book. You could just tell it was bursting out of him. And so I gave him Gabrielle Garcia Marquez's 100 years of solitude for him to know, okay, if you've never written a book and you're going to tell somebody, you want to write a great book? All right, read this.”

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  47. “That's right. In fact, I'd have to go back and watch the fight, but I'm sure his trainer, who was like aware, was probably saying, you know, you're way ahead, take it easy, stay away, and he probably said, what are you crazy? I got this under control. Boom, one shot.”

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  48. “Well, it was all designed to, he knew he was going to endure punishment and he knew he had to do it in a way that expended the least amount of energy and and he knew he just had to put himself in the right position to land that one shot. So it's a beautiful story to see somebody take their weakest point and do something within themselves to Change who they are.”

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  49. “Trainer, who coincidentally was Angelo Dundee, Muhammad Ali's trainer, who was in the opposing corner in Zaire, basically said to him, George, you're way behind. You got to do something. And George just kept moving forward and without wasting energy, just saw one moment, and he threw a right hand, and he still had the power. He still had everything that he had when he was young power-wise, and he clipped Moir straight on the jaw, and Michael Moore went down and couldn't beat the count. And foreman went over to the corner, got down on his knees, thanked the Lord. And to me, that was a symbol of success because he needed to change who he was in order to have that success. And he did it at forty four. So that's the best answer I can give you.”

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  50. “Southpaw, who is much faster, little lighter, but should be able to move around, George, with ease and just put punches into George's face without George being able to respond. But here's the thing. Foreman came into the ring, wearing the exact red trunks that he was wearing when Ollie hit him and put him down. And when Moore's trainer saw that, he recognized it and thought, uh oh, something's up here. And basically George didn't waste any energy. He rearranged his character and Moore the first nine rounds is completely outboxed and moved around. George has kept his hands up, tried to land, could barely even land, and his face started to get swollen, and the tenth round started.”

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