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Jess Phillips

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“And I think that actually my children who are relatively progressive sorts, they're teenagers, you know, and I'm a millennial mother, so just on the cusp, but I'm sticking with it. Sometimes their tolerance comes across as intolerance to me. Their levels of disdain for people who don't think like they do is really, really, really intolerant. And I think it's unhelpful. And so I think that I don't agree with Jacob Breismog on almost anything, but I also don't think that we shouldn't spend time trying to understand people who are completely different to us. Because if you do, you end up with riots on the street.”
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“And I hate it. I hate it mainly on a class level. So Jacob Brees Mogg isn't particularly a good example of this. And the example that I use in the book is that people who read The Guardian Think that people who read the sun are told who to vote for by the sun, but they don't think that they're being told who to vote for by the guardian.”
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“What I learned from getting in a 4x4 with Jacob Breesmog is twofold. Jacob Breesmog is so different to me that it's entertaining, isn't it, for me and somebody like me and him to be together? That's the fundamental reason why Channel 4 put us together is because look at these two people. They're completely different. It would be boring for me to go in one with somebody I completely agree with. But also And this is not a particular defense of Jacob Breesmark. Middle class Left wing people I've already said this tonight Think their shit don't stink and they think that they are completely and utterly tolerant and they are hate intolerance and yet we are completely and utterly intolerant of people who think differently to us”
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“Are in a different situation, to be perfectly honest than the rest of the country. A, cost more money here for you to put your children through childcare than it does where I live. And so it's not going to be a perfect system. And I think that there's going to, you know, fundamentally, as has always been the case, parents end up subsidizing it, which is fine if you're subsidizing it as I did. I had my children under the last Labour government. And I worked every single moment of my children's lives. And I was I never paid more than like £600 a month for two children.”
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“Do more care and do more domestic labour I mean I don't do any to be perfectly honest I don't know what size shoe my children are but I assume their fathers on that but the so that there is a fundamental there that we are asking the state in lots of cases to do the work that men should be sharing and we rely on the free labour of women to do it so something needs to change in that and there is all sorts of policies that the Labour I'm not saying that the Labour Party are going to do these around the world that look at like you know use it or lose it sort of care around childcare for dads anyway so the Labour Party is completely committed to the universal childcare offer that was offered is going to be from nine months isn't it from nine months from I can't remember when it exactly it starts so that will happen however that will only happen and in London”
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“Yes, yes, so childcare. Yeah, I mean, I sort of glibly so do you know many men who, and actually we will not solve this problem while childcare is considered to be the job of a woman. It is not the job of a woman. The only reason why women feel like their salary, always it's like, oh, well, what's the point in going to work? Because I only earn £4,000 a year, like £4,000 a month, then actually I'm paying £4,000 a month in childcare. Why do we always see childcare in the terms of a woman's salary when it is a shared issue? Is the first thing I would say. That's not what the Labour Party can possibly do about it. I make no joke about saying that we don't just need more women to be earning more. That was what it seemed like the sort of feminist movement was working towards for so many years. We need more men to do.”
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“There's been very little research into what exactly works and how to proliferate that everywhere as a universal offer, both targeting those with sexually showing signs of sexually harmful behaviours, which if we look at some of the things that have happened in our schools and colleges over the last couple of weeks, well, they've just been uncovered, they were happening forever, then you need both targeted and universal offering in this prevention space. And that is absolutely going to be an absolute key and fundamental part of the Labour Party's mission to end violence against women and girls.”
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“There has been a sense that women have progressed, rightly or wrongly, whether that's actually bears out in any of the data frankly it doesn't, as many women, if not more, are being abused. But the idea of sort of in a post-me to, and that that is a direct harm to men. It's like any women progressing means that men have to go down as if there's a finite amount of rights that exists in the world and there isn't. But Andrew Tay, in the absence of proper prevention education in schools that is properly resourced and not being expected to be done by a maths teacher. Yeah, well, exactly. All of that and also evidence-based.”
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“As you say, wearing fast. Anyway, but there's been this massive gap, the sort of extremism. And also, and we might not like it, and sort of start to feel a little bit like, I, why should I pander to it? But I have two teenagers. Boys, I am the mother of two teenage sons.”
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“Well, nothing is the answer currently, and we have left an enormous vacuum. We've left, like, that's what I'm saying is that there has been this, whether it's the growth of pornography, the growth of...”
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“Sorry, sorry. I'm sorry. Just to add to your particular question, there is an absolute problem. I would say that everybody in my constituency pretty much is British born is the first thing I would say regardless of what ethnicity they are. They are British born. And looking at educational standards is absolutely something that we should do across the board. And if it needs targeted attention, then that's absolutely what should be done. But it is all part of an issue where there is a problem. There has been a growing problem of education and work around young men and boys. And I'm not against doing that work in order to make us, because patriarchy actually kills as many men as it kills women.”
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“and what sort of extremism leads to that what you're talking about more so I think is the massive parallel between terrorism and domestic abuse so there is there is a massive crossover is basically the is basically If you look at most cases of any whether it's far right Islamist, whatever the flavor of terrorism is, you will find perpetrators of domestic abuse and sexual violence.”
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“was men aged sixteen to twenty five. There is a we have a problem, we have a problem in everything that's happened this week, I would say, is linked back to this as well. There is a growing issue that needs a massive prevention strategy, both universal and targeted prevention strategy in this space. And actually, for years, we've never dealt with what we've done in domestic violence services because it didn't have a place in the sort of heart of government really, it has been largely run and built up over the years by the women's movement, who classically and understandably, and I was part of this, have focused on services for the victim, we really, really have got to have a look at both rehabilitation, perpetrate the growth of perpetration, the reasons why it happens.”
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“Actually, the answer to both questions is not dissimilar. So there is absolutely something like we will not solve the issue of violence against women and girls if we do not address what is becoming extremist levels of disaffected masculinity, toxic masculinity and look at like so the MPCC report that came out from the National Police Chiefs Council, I won't turn into the civil service where they literally use acronyms all the time for everything. They have like cutesy names for legislation. I'm like what? I used to call that the Rwanda bill. They've got like a cutesy name for it. And it said that the largest group of perpetrators in the country.”
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“To go and find that guy and be like, happy now. I know. So in the book, because after talking about my experience in the hospital, the hospital that I was in that I was just talking about is famous because when it was opened, it was opened under the last Labour government. It was built under the last Labour government. And it was where Tony Blair was heckled by a woman in the car park because her husband had been in A&A and I think it was like he'd had to wait for like two hours or something and I would have been like that dreamy on the two hours.”
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“Exactly. So, yeah, he is like the Ming Vars thing was so, it is so true. Like his job was to win the election. And it doesn't matter whether he won it through like an inspiring ideological thing or this like you're not mad. You've seemed like we should give you a go and everything's broken. The Tories going for the whole going back to square one. Everyone was like that'd be nice. Can we go back to square one? I loved square one. Square one was excellent. I didn't have everything, but I could get a doctor's appointment on square one. Sometimes.”
2024-08-10 · Intelligence Squared · Jess Phillips on the Challenges of a New Era for British Politics · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He is a different man because the whole carrying Mingvials across an ice rink, which now has become so overused, it's basically his dad was a toolmaker. My husband says my version of my dad's a toolmaker, and so I'm going to tell you this now because I want everyone in the nation, is that I gave birth to a £10.10 ounce baby. He's like, you tell literally anyone who stands still for more than a second next to you that you had a £10 ounce baby and Placenta was £6. They don't normally wear them, but they were like, check out this placenta. That's my version of that. It means when I need to weed, I've got to go straight away.”
2024-08-10 · Intelligence Squared · Jess Phillips on the Challenges of a New Era for British Politics · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. So I wasn't disposed to the idea of quickly we're going to go and speak to this journalist and I'm not good at landing a line. That's actually not true. I'm an incredibly good communicator just to blow my own trumpet and the people in the country can hear me when I speak. The discipline of you have to get this line across for this outcome is not something that I am any good at and so much of the process to become a party leader and or be one actually to just be it is that and I am just not predisposed to that I'm just not I'm always going to it You know, freestyle a bit. And that is, which I think actually is easier once you are the Prime Minister. And I think that if you look at Keir Starmer this month, in the last month, compared to the previous months. He's a different man”
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“Being the leader of a political party versus being the Prime Minister, let me tell you, being the leader of a political party is the worst job. I was about to say in politics in the world. Political parties pain in the bum, aren't they? Like the people in them. And I speak as one of them, like my husband's like, who would join a political party? It's so weird. And what I mean is given.”
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“So, was I predisposed not to win? What was essentially the question? I just hadn't been planning it for a long time. So it's like building a track when you're on it, a train track as you're going. And that's really, really, really difficult. Like it costs money and resource. The thing I absolutely hated about it, the thing is that I'm not very good at lots of people standing around me and sort of telling me the lines. And actually, when you're in that sort of environment where you basically have to know everything, like if you're the Prime Minister or you're the leader of a political party, like I'm a specialist in, I'm a specialist in various things, not just violence against women and girls, but like anything that really, really affects my constituents. So I'm quite a special. in immigration law. I'm quite a specialist in housing law.”
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“Except in the Labour Party, every second bugger's called Keir in the Labour Party. Keir Starmer, who a man I really, really like, but he is my third favourite Keir in the Labour Party. And that's not because he's bad. There's about 30 Keers after him. Someone said he should go. I just really love this bloke called Keir Cousins who used to work in the PLP. Literally the nicest man ever. Anyway.”
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“They'll tell me their experiences of the order system, the protective order system, they'll tell me their experiences of mental health services on the front line. And so I think that that will provide a different... From flav”
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“Yeah, there's no capacity to actually test anybody who comes through. But, you know, we are going to, you know, but we'll write the policy into law and it's just sort of like, what should we maybe work on making sure that that could happen if we're going to do it, if we're going to say it? And so it's things like that. So where you're told things are happening, I am very, very, and I mean, I still every week will be handling at least a caseload of at least twenty to thirty cases of the most high risk dangerous domestic and sexual violence and just not, I mean, just really even just in my constituency such as the volume of the crime, but also obviously lots of people know who I am and know that I care about this and so lots of people from around the country will get in touch with me and tell me their experiences of prisoner release.”
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“Yeah, yeah. So you just don't have that experience. One thing that I definitely am already bringing to it is that I am massively plugged into women victims in the country. So if somebody comes forward and says to me, okay, we're going to have this policy and we're going to make sure that, you know, like that this is happening in this rollout and you make a decision on the basis of the information you are given let's say that they put protective orders in a certain type of protective order. What I know is, and this I think will be quite a lot for them in a new way of working is that I know when that's absolute that that's absolute actually happening because it will take me five minutes for victims to write to me and say well he was released from prison and I told he was going to have a tag but he hasn't got one and so what gets”
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“So much of my job as being a woman politician is just being in a room to remind people that women exist when policy is being made. You'd be surprised how often that is forgotten?”
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“Having done. The Labor Party has committed to have an overarching government strategy to half the incidences of violence against women and girls in a decade. So what I would say is in the very first five years, I mean, making some mark along the way of that, but actually and in some ways already, although it will definitely inertia will set in and so you have to keep on top of it, already some of actually what I wanted to achieve is already in train to being done and that is that I just want the safety and security of women and girls in our country to be a political priority and for it to be mainstreamed into the decision making of every government department. I mean, I am going to cut fisheries some slack They haven't got specifics on it. But it is about it is at a grander level being”
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“Like 10 things, and you've got to look over them and you've got to give guidance on each one of them every single day. Now there might well be departments where you don't have to have 10 things. It's tough been in the home office because, you know, like shit kicks off quite a lot. There's a lot of, you know, it's everything that could potentially go wrong is basically the home office's gig. And so... Yeah, like it is very tiring, actually. It is very tiring to be like, so often I won't get to that until I am at home and say you'll sit down and have some dinner and then it's like, it's decision hour. Okay, so.”
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“As a man. It turns out. Like he goes to his closet and it's just the same clothes every day. Yeah, so at the end of every day you will get given like, I mean like classically in a red box, but obviously it's on email now.”
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“Face value who run the country Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they're doing the although, do you know what? What I also realised, and I don't think that I had realised this before, is the level of decision-making that you actually have. They don't make decisions. They don't. They present a series of options to you. And I mean, on a number of occasions, I've been like, I don't like any of these options. I want this option written down and then I'll agree to that.”
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“What can I say? So I was like, you know, I referenced this in the book. I keep as a joke every day because the Labour Party Twitter account was hacked and it promised an owl for every household. So at the end of every day, I say, can someone work up an owl for every household for me? And one day there's going to be like somebody who's covering for someone and they're going to think I'm being serious. I do worry that almost every comedy aside that I make in meetings is being taken seriously. That is a worry because they are very, very the civil service is very”
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“And I was a bit like one of you's going to have to train in nail arts because I was a bit like what do you all do? And it turns out I do now have to read things and actually they all work so incredibly hard, I've realized. But it is like this shock of suddenly going from asking for things to me now. I ask for the same things I've been asking for for years and people go, we'll go and work that up for you. And I'm like that.”
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“No, no, no, no. I'm not saying that there's too many of them. But when you go from basically, like I write on my own speeches, I do everything that I have people who work alongside me. But the vast majority of my staff previous to being a minister worked for the good people of Birmingham Yardley. Not for me. I don't need people to do, I mean, endless research for me because I am an expert on the things that I talk about. And, you know, I've never really read out a speech in my life, let alone had one written for me by somebody else to read out. So I didn't need researchers and stuff like that working in my office. I suddenly have these people.”
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“Can I just say trains and you design? Yeah, exactly. If they'd given me trains, the answer would have been no to the question of will you do this. But actually, I think Keir Starmer seems to have really tried to do that, doesn't he? It'll never catch on, giving people making a scientist be in charge of science. Crackers. But, yeah, like, so luckily I, I mean, I was literally across the problem they were asking me to from an outside perspective. And so I was able to very quickly give my opinion on it. But I suppose, actually, I didn't realize how powerful it was. I didn't realize, I didn't realize quite how many civil servants there are. Loads of them. And there's loads fewer than there used to be, isn't there? Like it's like five people who work for me. They are building our country.”
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“I really wasn't expecting to make decisions quite as quickly as I was expected to. Literally, I'd been in there for five minutes and they were like, well, we've got this decision you need to make and it's quite urgent because we've got to get it back to so-and-so by 24 hours. And I was like, that luckily. I'm a world leading expert in the thing that they've made me a minister of, which, by the way, is an”
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“But it's a very wise who are teachers now. Top's ten years. they get out like so we have got to and this is going to take a lot of time and a lot of effort and it isn't just money We have got to make it so that public services and the really good delivery of good public services is not just respected but sort of understood about why things need to happen rather than just playing by numbers. Oh, we've got more midwives than ever before and it's just like for what good is that? What good is that if they're going to leave after a year? That's what pisses me off, and I'm not”
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“And Conversations to get through to the next client load. That is terrifying. That is a terrifying prospect. And she left even though she absolutely loved being a midwife. And that's the same story. I think it's quite the same in teaching as well. My dad was a teacher. My aunt's an uncles. Many of them were teachers. And they were teachers for 50 years. Used to get like a tankard. But now do people get given now if they've worked somewhere for 40 years? I don't want a pewter tankard.”
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“My friend Rutu is a health visitor now, but she was a midwife. She literally just gave up being a midwife because it was not safe for her to operate and she was personally liable if something bad happened. But, you know, like you're a midwife left with like seven women in labour and you're the person, the one person, it's like not a safe environment. And even in community midwifery, she was talking about training new midwives and it was used to be that like ask big open questions. And when I worked in frontline domestic abuse services, we massively relied really, really heavily on those universal women services like health visiting, like midwifery to be the absolute gateway and still the vast majority of women who come forward come forward to a health professional, much more so than the police or housing or social work. It's health professionals who get that information.”
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“I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that, but well, actually, I am saying there's something wrong with that. I am saying that we need to make sure that it is a respected job that should be done equally by men and women in our country. It isn't just that we should always try and get more women in the boardroom. We should try and get more men into care jobs. We're going to have to create a system that makes that happen, that makes it a respected, invested in and sought through process. But the reliance on immigration to prop up social care is entirely because the vast majority of British people don't want to do that job because it doesn't pay well enough. And it's hard. It's hard to do, it's like the hardest job in the world being working in care. And so it's also...”
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“Just for that. But you absolutely, that was the model, but the truth is that we are going to have to professionalize social care. And the reliance on bringing in women from abroad for cheap labour.”
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“Yeah, yeah, but the feelings in its sort of startup days, well, maybe not its startup days, but very quickly afterwards relied entirely on immigrant labour to keep it propped up. And so, you know, like, I mean, if you've been Birmingham, you are basically the relative of either somebody who came over, whether from Ireland, Pakistan, India or the West Indies to work in the NHS. That's literally, apart from my husband who believes he's the only person in Birmingham not entitled to a passport from somewhere else and is going to turn off the lights when we've all left. He's very bitter about that, like the only non-migrant person in the whole city. I could move to Ireland for five years, and then he would be able to have an Irish basketball, but that seems like quite.”
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“And access to rights and employment rights that are, I mean, because what I'm saying is women in the workplace not being massively exploited. And yeah, I think that's the silver bullet is the truth.”
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“And so there is a psychological thing absolutely that happens as well. But I mean, the truth is, here's the absolute truth of this is that more than half, in fact, just me and the other the young woman who was pregnant are the only two people who were actually in there who should have potentially had like, you know, actually she should have been able to be treated in the community far, far better. Do we have to deal with social care? You can't deal with the NHS is not going to vastly improve unless we have proper social care that is available at a high standard that is being operated by people with working standards.”
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“Yes, I think they're there. So, funnily enough, one of the things that I noticed from my various nights in A&A in Birmingham over the years is that there definitely needs to be considerably more ancillary activity and organisation going on that shouldn't be being left to nurses, of which there were like three for 80 patients because they have more important things to be doing. So I think there are reforms that can be done. But what I would say is, so yesterday I did a book talk and two nurses, an adult safeguarding nurse who must seriously know.”
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“Yeah, that's it. A really long home. This lady just lives near me and I could drive her home, save the ambulance time. She'd been waiting for eight hours. Just for the, I was just like, this is, I mean, I took her out, prison break. And then I was like this other lady. I was like, is there anyone here going to Washwood Heath? Are you ridiculous? Can I?”
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“If she wants me to give her a lift home, you don't get to say that she can't be taken home by me, and also, by the way, at the time I was like, I am the shadow minister for safeguarding.”
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“Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'd been in a couple of months previously with my dad, and he basically had sepsis, and he has blood cancer, and he's 81, so, you know, like, I'm going to say alarm. And by the end of it, I mean, I'm the worst nightmare as a person who I'm all right when I'm ill. But I wasn't ill when I was in with my dad. And basically there were loads of elderly women. So actually they weren't kept separately in there because my dad was in there with them. Just waiting for hospital transport to take them back after they were having no treatment. And so I just started being like, well, this woman lives quite near me, so I'll take her home. And they were like, no, you can't do that because there's a safeguarding risk. I'm like, this woman is a grown ass adult.”
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“Yeah. So she's vomiting. I've got a nebulizer on my face, so I basically sound like Darth Vader. And various other people. This was not an environment you could get well in. It was a cubicle for one with seven patients and two visitors all sat in this one room. Like just I was just so furious and what you say that Stephen Bush is saying is exactly right is that I then would go to Parliament and sit in front of them and say we're bringing the waiting list down the NHS has never had more money than it had before. It's just like oh my God have you used it?”
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“And then I was put in a cubicle, almost certainly a cubicle I've sat in before I've been into that hospital very many times that was intended for one person and it was me and essentially there were nine other people in there. Two of them were not patients, one being my husband and one being the daughter of one of the women in there. But we were at least we were all women and I don't know whether that was like, you know, we're going to keep them separate. We were all women. Most of them were elderly women where failure in social care policy over decades had left them to B and A&E all night when they definitely shouldn't have been. One was a pregnant woman with that.”
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“Oh, like eighty meters in the absolute pouring rain blowing a gale to where the ambulance bay goes in. It's a big hospital. It's a big hospital in Birmingham. And then I go into this other waiting room where I then get put through to a sub waiting room. And I'm not joking. I have genuinely seen better facilities, health facilities in war zones, in developing countries around the world. And eventually when I got through to get treatment, which undoubtedly I got through quicker because of who I am, undoubtedly. Also, the doctor who saw me was Palestinian. As it turns out almost all the doctors in Birmingham seem to be, and he was sort of like, I like you, you vote for a ceasefire. But I got through quicker.”
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“Yeah, yeah. So I arrived there, and it was the night of a storm, those storms that we give names to now. And so I walk up to the A&E, and one door, there's two sets of opening doors, one behind, one in front. And you weren't even able to cross the threshold. And I stood in a queue to get to this point. And then there's just a nurse sitting while there's literally a gale being blown through these doors. And bear in mind, I can't breathe. And she's taking vitals to basically find out whether you're dead enough to come in, basically. And I was then sent down to, she literally said, okay, your vitals are quite bad. We will admit you, but you can't come in here because it's full. It's like the Christmas story, isn't it? She said, go to that stable. And so I had to walk like, I don't know.”
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