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Jess Phillips

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“Which film? You know what? I knew you were going to ask this, but I can't remember. Well, I can't remember because I'm old and menopausal is the reason I can't say it was bill and it was like a modern film where I think that it's sort of post-apocalyptic anyway.”
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“Exactly. So I had been in this sort of clinical environment that is make believe. And then I got home and within about an hour my lips had gone blue and I probably shouldn't have gone out, should have just stayed in bed and I couldn't breathe. And so I sort of like, I really think I should probably go to the hospital because I really, really cannot breathe anymore. And so me and my husband went off to, it was quite late at night by this point. He was quite annoyed because we were halfway through a film.”
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“I think I saw David Beckham, so that was exciting, but in fact I saw all the Beckhams. There were a whole family were there. But I feel like I only say this now is because the sharp difference. I hadn't had a good time in the day because I'd felt so ill. I'd been ill for quite some time. I'd had a bad chest for quite some time and was like my breathing was quite bad and I'd sort of underdeal respond like, oh, we arranged that we'd all go together and do this nice thing. And he is nice. I shouldn't be quite so rude about it. He is nice. Do we still do it together? And I felt so ill throughout the day. And when I got home, it's just a juxtaposition between real life and the life that sometimes gets like, you know, like this, well, basically where quite a lot of the government, I'm not saying specifically the Soho farmhouse, but they live in an insulated environment of like that.”
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“Yeah, exactly like that. There's like a horse that you can get near, but that's fine. All right, so you're in the Soho farmhouse. A couple of my mates are members of Weirdly. They're both from Birmingham, although one of them lives in London. It's not a usual thing for people from Birmingham to be sort of members of clubs. In fact, I didn't know these clubs existed till I was elected. We don't have them. We have social clubs where I live.”
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“So it was box day after boxing day. And the bit that isn't in the book, which I will now admit to you today, is that day I had been to the Soho farmhouse with my girlfriends. So I don't know if you know about what the Soho farmhouse is. It's Butlin's for Twats. I'm sure it's not. I'm sure it's like the countryside of people who hate the countryside and want it to be completely and utterly clinically removed.”
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“You only read it the night before. Sure, yeah. But it inspired me to sit down and actually write it because I was so angry. I was so upset. So Christmas.”
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“The trouble is that it has felt a huge amount like people were spitting in our face and telling it it was raining because people kept, we kept being told everything was world beating for a start off, like this constant desire to be the best. When people actually don't care if we're the best, they just want their bins collected. They just want some semblance of competence. So yeah, there's a bit in the book. And actually, I think it was probably the first bit I actually wrote when I sat down to write the book. And it was probably because I'd put it off for ages, even though I was meant to have done it. But like, you know, like when you wrote your dissertation the night before. I think, for example,”
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“Which is to say that I'm not sure. Let's give them a crack. 100%. I mean, I don't think that's slagging them off. I think that anybody could say that, you know, that's what it felt like on the streets.”
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“populated if you you know on one street in my constituency there can be thousands of people living and then in a different part of Birmingham there would be a hundred people living in the same space and so you know that they they feel that very keenly Anyway, and some of it is totally legit.”
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“The Palestinian issue holds a very, very, very strong place in the heart of the diaspora communities that I represent and all across the country. But it can't happen in a vacuum. They felt like the two tier nature of that is also writ large on their streets because they feel like their neighbourhoods where the vast majority of them are, you know, living in the poorest neighbourhoods that have had absolutely been totally and utterly degraded, there's no leisure centre in smallheath in my constituency anymore. And there was 10 years ago, there's no neighbourhood offices for homelessness. People are living in terrible accommodation where they are overcrowded and desperately underserved at damp properties. So there is this constant. And then there's parts of Birmingham that are lovely and leafy. And the streets are cleaner. And it's not because the council does spends less money in those places. It's because they're less densely.”
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“And they felt so keenly about it, and they felt very keenly about it because, going back to your two tearing, they feel like the lives of Muslim people matter less globally. And they feel as if this were happening to someone else. Now, of course, I just gave you an example of where it was Muslim then. But there is a sense that the idea that Israel matters more, that they are of higher status in the world than the Muslims in this situation, the Palestinians. And I can see why they felt that way. I can see that, and also their own experiences of life. The Gaza thing wouldn't have, I mean, they would have all felt very keenly about this. Issue of Gaza regardless and always have it”
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“Not necessarily a bad thing, it's actually a good thing, is that the level of footage that you can now see, like when I was a kid and there, I mean, I was a child through the genocide of the former Yugoslavia and Serbia, etc. And you, you know, it was harrowing and you saw Jeremy Bowen on the news at night talking about it. But it was like at nine o'clock and you watched it with your mum and dad and they explained it to you and that was it. And then you might read about it in the papers and stuff. What definitely was traumatizing for my constituents, genuinely traumatizing is that there is, and this is not a criticism of this in some ways, it's a good thing, is that every single minute of every single day they were watching videos of terribly harrowing things happening.”
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“Lost it again. Yes, that's what happened then. That's often the thing about, and it will be the same with Farage, I predict, is that these sort of big personalities who come in on the ticket of being against something, that's all they've got is being against something. They're not for anything. They're just against something, and grievance is the only thing that they have, is that, you know, eventually, like, you do have to deal with drop curbs. And if you crap MP, they're one termers, aren't they? George Galloway, apart from when he was a Labour MP, was quite permanently the MP in the sort of West End of Glasgow. But since then, I don't think he's been re-elected. He just floats around. But yeah, but it was the internet has a massive, massive part to play. And this is...”
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“You face there? Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, gosh, it wasn't grassroots. No, the person who stood against me on that particular ticket was not from Birmingham and was not part of the community that he sought to get behind him sent in.”
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“No. I mean, oh, don't get me wrong, it was up there, drives and drop curbs and parking. Oh my God. And I just, by the end of it, I just started saying to people, anyone who comes around here and says they're going to sort the parking out is just lying to you. There's nothing that can be done. It's your neighbours. I don't know what to tell you. You've all got a car. Politically and even there is no solution to the fact that these Victorian terrorist houses were built to have no cars and now 13 of you live in this house and you've all got a car. So I'm a bit like you do the math. So I've stopped pretending that I'm going to do anything about parking. Also, parking outside schools, which is terrible. But the road's called school road. You should have known this was going to happen before you moved here.”
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“And everybody owns a car. But they're all like, oh, well, you know, working class people can't own cars, and I think you haven't been to the estate where I have got like nine on the drive.”
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“Yeah. Hundred percent drop curves is drop curbs drives people's parking and bins in Birmingham specifically there has been quite a lot of bin disputes.”
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“We get so frosted up by what we see online to the point where we are culpable. We then become culpable in the sort of making the environment febrile. And everybody thinks that their own shit don't stink. And actually, we're so often just arguing or feeling superior because we know more our quip was funnier than somebody else's online. And I just, I think that basically turn it off the internet.”
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“Yeah, I It has got so much worses, it's a dangerous environment, I actually think now. And it's also just, I mean, the thing that is bad about it, it's just deeply unfun now. So from a marketing perspective, but my husband lives a totally sanguine life because he has no social media, literally none whatsoever. He's on WhatsApp. Does that count? I think it's just to tell me to buy low rolls, but...”
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“Yeah, yeah. Well, also, if you, I mean, I've worked with girls who are being currently exploited and girls who've broken free from exploitation. And, you know, the very real sense that these people are their boyfriend, for example, in the boyfriend model is very real. It's very, very real to them. And so the idea that they were choosing it, and actually if you think that we have progressed in this space, we haven't at all in this country, in my view. We've progressed in it with regard to anyone under the age of 16. We haven't progressed in it for anyone over the age of 16, and we still think that if adult women or adult men, in fact, are sexually exploited, groomed because of other vulnerabilities that they have, we still very much perceive that as a choice and a financial contract.”
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“books that I wrote was about the whistleblower in Rochdale, in the Rochdale grooming gang. And so, you know, I know quite a lot about it. Actually, the issue much more so there were cultural sensitivities and there were always people who will protect men in these circumstances no matter which community they come from is actually the ability to see the girls as victims Was the problem. The thing they saw and didn't have proper sensitivities towards was the idea that naughty girls or girls in the care system or girls who are also taking drugs could be victims. Right, there was a”
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“Black and Asian people and newly settled migrants are as likely to be sexual predators as literally all the other populations and so there is no more predominance in one community than another but that was building up and definitely the root of it the right wing the right wing have always had this sort of grooming gang issue and undoubtedly that's based on based on their own racism to start with but also there was kernels of truth in it in the whether that was specifically the police though that were doing that right but other institutions and actually it wasn't necessarily and i've worked with lots and lots of the victims of grooming gangs over the years and have run sexual exploitation services one of the”
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“But like I was having this conversation about how I was noticing as an advocate on women's rights that it was becoming much more this idea that sexual violence violence against children, violence against women was being perpetrated by specifically like migrants like newly settled migrants but also just that it was like it becoming like an Asian thing or a black thing and that and that's not that's not unusual that that's not new but it was it was it was breaching into much more like I was seeing it like much more and I could feel already that that was like a sort of worrying trend that was building up because I mean It's completely untrue that, I mean,”
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“Yes, which But that Undoubtedly. And actually, before the riots had all started and maybe even before I was made into a minister even when the election, it's very difficult for me to have any grasp on time at the moment. You know that the election was a month ago yesterday. That seems like years ago, doesn't it?”
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“Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, look, I have made a career in the past out of pointing out police failings in violence against women and girls. Like that is, I am not sitting here to say that, and there's all sorts of strata that exist within police forces around prioritization, for example, of certain crimes over others. And actually, that prioritization has come about largely because of austerity that the police have faced as well. When you have very limited resources, you have to look across the board and think where you have to focus them. There has been quite a growing, apparently the two-tier policing thing, and I didn't necessarily know this, it wouldn't have breached into my particular radar, is a longstanding right-wing sort of playground that they have been running. On for quite some time.”
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“So specifically Taylor Swift has become, hasn't she? And I don't know in this case whether this has had any influence on it, but she has become sort of the absolute nemesis of the sort of incel. She's like a successful woman who's had a number of boyfriends and this is like somehow she's controlling other people's sexuality by having some control over her own has become, I believe, I don't know, I'm just, you know, saying what I vaguely see and what my children tell me because I don't actually pay that much attention. But she seems to be the real ire of what in America specifically of sort of right-wing thing that's happening, as well as this Islamist block”
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“But throw into that and you create the perfect environment for the idea that there is a quick and easy solution and there is a bad faith actor and player over here and then lighter spark. But it felt very organized to me like the idea that people hung their hat on what had happened in Southport, the terrible murder of those three girls and the harming of other people, which actually if you were to do any real analysis of that you would find Somebody going and sorry, not somebody, a man going to a place where women were gathering an obvious site for women and young girls and choosing that as their target.”
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“And also, I mean, I blame austerity actually for people's, like, you don't end up with what happened in Nazi Germany without the sort of fall of the Reimer Republic, the economic situation, makes people look around and look for an other to blame for the bad things that are happening rather than governments to blame. So that all of that being the sort of the melting point environment, throw in people who want to present that there is an easy solution for their own political and financial ends, whether that's social media giants or politicians who are just seeking to divide because divide and conquer is the quickest way to power and any fool can do it.”
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“And it's not like London. London is genuinely incredibly diverse. Like there's people from all over the place. Where I live, the vast majority of people are sort of windrush era onto the era of migrancy from India and Pakistan. So we don't have a lot of Mexicans, for example. Yeah, you know, like a lot of Turkish of late, but London is genuinely a diverse place, Birmingham and other places, the diversity is different. But there is nothing, there is no bread breaking facilities available anymore. There used to be huge amounts of neighborhood renewal systems that were put in place to allow people to be doing stuff together, meeting together, doing that sort of community cohesion work and doing work around violence on the streets and stuff. And a lot of that has been removed”
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“I mean Analysis of it is that it has been building for some time and there's been a huge amount of It's very easy, and I'm not just going to do this because I am here about my book. Some of the things I talk about in the book are like the idea that there is an easy solution to difficult problems has been peddled so regularly that it's become very much more commonplace in society for people to look at some terrible thing happening and go, it's because of migrants. I mean, obviously latent racism that has always existed and actually a total degradation of all the things that were considered sort of Mickey Mouse things that kept community cohesion on the road that have all but gone in a place like where I live, which is, as I was about to say, is incredibly diverse. It isn't incredibly diverse, actually. It's just not very white.”
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