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Jordan B. Peterson

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“The character of the idiot in Dostevsky's novels a holy fool, so strange combination. Person who's doing things right in a manner that's, I suppose, not obvious, that looks like. Can easily be confused with Naivety or foolishness. Playfulness, even I suppose”
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“Bugs Bunny Hugs Bunny's a trickster character. Right. Yeah. More serious answer. You ever read the idiot Yeah, well, I'm probably half idiot and half Riskolnikov. That's another way of looking at it”
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“No, but it's implicit. One of the things the psychoanalytic thinkers insisted on, Carl Jung in particular, was that everybody acts out his story. Sometimes it's a tragic story. Sometimes it's the story of hell. Like you're trapped in a story. One way or another Now do you know the contours of your story? Not necessarily, I mean people are often very bad at describing themselves. They don't know what they're up to. That doesn't mean they're not up to something. And you could also think about them as the battleground between warring stories. That also happens. That just means they're fractionated in their psyche. They're being pulled in many directions at the same time.”
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“Then the question becomes well, how do you characterize that which is the ultimate aim, that which is and should be the ultimate aim? Well, the Stories on which our culture is predicated characterize that in story.”
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“Right, because the thing that's at the pinnacle recedes as you approach it. And that's it, you could say that's a technical definition of God, which is accurate. That is a technical definition of God. God is the good towards which all goods point. These are definitions, again. Remember, they're not proclamations of faith. They're definitions. So obviously all believe that all good things share something in common, because otherwise we wouldn't have the category good. And then we all believe that there are rank orders of good, because otherwise everything good would be equally worth pursuing. No one believes that. So there's a rank order. Well, if there's a rank orders towards some end or some pinnacle, you can also think about it as a foundation. Depends on which metaphorical landscape you want to inhabit.”
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“That's a definition. That's what I mean, is that in the hierarchy of what's good. The divine is the peak. We don't know what that is. That's also an insistence in the biblical texts, by the way. In the final analysis, the divine is ineffable. It's not definable. And it's beyond you, and that's partly because there's a practical reason for that even. You know this as well. As you move towards a goal, let's say you attain a goal. Okay, now you've accomplished. Well, are you done? It's like, no, a new potential goal emerges, a new pinnacle. And then maybe you'll accomplish that. But then a new one exists. And so you could say that the domain of opportunity is limitless.”
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“On the topic we're having right now, and then inside the podcast as a whole, and then as part of the podcast enterprise that you're involved in as part of the book enterprise, let's say that I'm involved in, that's nested inside our view of the world, right? So you see there are nestings of the good that have no upper limit. That's Jacob's ladder, by the way. And at the top of that is the good itself, which is the divine for all intents and purposes.”
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“Independent of fear, say, because you could move towards a safety goal because you're afraid. But imagine you're trying to accomplish something. You have a goal. The positive emotion systems operate to track progress to the goal. Positive emotion is a consequence of evidence of movement towards a desired goal. Okay, so now you have a proximal goal, you know, like our proximal goal right now might be just to like in the most micro level possible might be to. Display facial signs of interest in the conversation, right? It's very micro goal, but then that's nested in our desire to have an interesting conversation.”
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“And it's also a non existent person who doesn't have some concept of the good because you can't act without a concept of the good because you act towards a goal you deem desirable. So that's up. I mean, unless you're trying to make your life worse and people do that from time to time, but we'll leave that as an exception. I mean, you have to. You have to have descended into hell in a way before you're in a situation where you're actively working to make your own life worse. That can't happen. But assuming that you're Relatively well embedded in the realm of the normal, then you're moving towards something better always, because otherwise there's no motivation. We know this technically. This isn't even disputable. The positive emotion systems that make you enthusiastic so that fill you with the desire to move towards a goal is”
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“strategy across time it's a degenerating game. Okay, so what do you do? Well, instead of thinking about what you want or even thinking about how to strategize in relationship to your goals, you might think about what you could do for other people, or you could think about what you would do if you only did what was true and right. Those are very different orientations. And the religious orientation fundamentally is the orientation towards what is true and right. And you might say, well, I don't know what's true and right. It's like, yeah, kind of because our knowledge is bounded and we're ignorant. So do we understand The nature of the highest good, well, no, but it's a very rare person who doesn't know some of the time when they're doing something wrong.”
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“Well, one of the things you do with disagreeable people who are more inclined by temperament to be competitive and attain victory for themselves is one of the exercises you can do with disagreeable people. If you're a disagreeable extrovert, you tend to be narcissistic. And the problem with that technically is that you alienate people. And the problem with that is while you're hypersocial. So if you alienate people, then you don't have anyone. And not only is that lonesome, but it's also extremely impractical. I mean, you know, you certainly and no doubt learned this more as you become successful. It's like you need a team. And right. And the more tightly knit it is and the more you're all working in the same direction, the better everything works. It's not useful to be a narcissist because maybe you get what you want right now this time. But as a propagating...”
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“The divine is that to which sacrifice is directed. Well, if you get married, it's a sacrificial offering because you sacrifice your potential relationship with all other women to that woman.”
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“You can punish them by putting them in solitary confinement. That's how social human beings are. And so your mental health is way more dependent on your nesting within a social structure than on your, say, the internal coherence of your belief systems. In fact, I think it's hardly at all. Do you have any friends? Do you have anyone that loves you? Or maybe even more profoundly, are there people for whom you make sacrifices? Right? That's a very, it's relevant to the topic of this book, obviously, because the relationship with the divine in the stories that I'm detailing in this book, most of them are Old Testament stories, the relationship with the divine is a sacrificial relationship.”
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“Words associated with your empathy aggregate, words associated with your dutifulness aggregate, and so do words associated with creativity. Those are the five fundamental dimensions of temperament. One of the words that clumps with negative emotion is self consciousness, which means that self consciousness is so tightly associated with suffering that they're not conceptually distinguishable, which means literally the more you think about yourself, the more miserable you are. And it makes sense when you understand how social people are. We're so social that you can take the most antisocial human beings imaginable, so psychopathic criminals.”
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“Psychologists who were statistically minded they're called psychometricians, they're psychologists who are obsessed, research psychologists who are obsessed with measurement and concept definition. Spent a lot of time aggregating concepts. These were Some ways, what they were doing was equivalent to the development of early large language models. So psychologists were at the forefront of that. On the statistical side. Words that we use to describe people clump together So for example, if you're extroverted, you're social, and you're happy, you're enthusiastic. Okay, so those clump together. If you're Anxious, you also tend to be frustrated, disappointed, grief stricken, and in pain. All the negative emotions clump.”
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“You're involved in a metaphysical endeavor that constitutes the foundation for the nation, let's say. That would be one nation under God. That's one way of thinking about it. Or you could think about it as the self-evident truce that underlie the state. Your identity exists at all those levels. And then your mental health isn't something you carry around in your head. the harmony that exists or doesn't exist between all those levels. And that isn't how liberal individualists think about identity at all. And that's because they were for a long time fortunate enough so all those other strata were in place. So why do we find ourselves now if we don't have that hierarchy and we aren't held in place by all those layers and sort of social and I guess family identities? A drift in a storm alone So look, here's an interesting fact.”
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“Extremely shaky and everyone feels it. That's what the culture war is about fundamentally. And that fact is invalidating the fractionated liberal experiment. Partly, see, it's partly because we have the wrong conception of identity fundamentally. Identity is a hierarchical structure. We kind of think that you end at your boundaries as an individual, but you don't. You're probably not going to want to be alone. So then let's say you're married, okay? So now Your identity as a husband, that's a social identity. And then you have an identity as a father. That's a social identity. Then you have an identity as a member of your community and a member of your city and a member of your state and a member of your nation.”
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“In individualism only works when the conservative foundation is in place. If you aggregate people together and they share enough fundamental values, especially of a particular sort, then you can concentrate on the individual and individual freedom. But there's a lot of preconditions for that. You know, the Scottish liberals, so the ones who really established Western liberalism as a philosophical and political movement, they knew that. You know, it was... Individual liberty Judeo-Christian substructure. And that was an assumption. Now, the problem with modern liberalism is that that underlying foundation has become”
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“Book comes at a really interesting time in my life personally. Your book is called We Who Wrestle With God. And it's my belief and suspicion that there's a lot of people wrestling with God at the moment. And when I say the word God, I don't necessarily mean some man in the sky with a beard. What I really mean is a greater meaning, a greater sense of meaning. The world feels like, and you speak to this in the book, that it's gotten more and more individualistic and there's consequence to that. Fractionated is another way of thinking about it, right? Because you can think about it as individualistic, and now it's a positive spin, so to speak, but alienated, isolated, and fractionated is the... What would you say is the accompaniment to that? See, I think the case is that the liberal experiment”
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“There's nothing about it that's glorious Over the last two years you've been through a particularly difficult time and because you've been through that have you been able to develop a strategy that helps you go through suffering yeah oh definitely so the first thing”
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“Built for maximal challenge, and that isn't the way we view ourselves in the modern world. We view ourselves as built for consumption and pleasure, for example, watching pornography. But what are the downstream consequences of that? Well, first of all, it's easy to get what? Sexual gratification. But does it matter? Oh, it's a catastrophe. You're not desperate anymore. And if you're going to have the true adventure of your life, you're going to need love, shame, guilt, desperation, and pain. Like it's hard. But now, people take the easy road, like avoiding conflict, for example. I spent a lot of time studying evil that arises when good men hold their tongue. Now, you may suffer some consequences of speaking, but retreating one step at a time defensively when it makes you sick of yourself, there's nothing worse that can happen to you. You want your life to be unbearably entertaining, and maybe all the sorrow and catastrophe has to be part of it because otherwise there's...”
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“We know the couples that lived together before the marriage actually increases the probability that the relationship will fail. And the reason for that, it's very straightforward. And talking of things that risk harming relationships, a subject we've never spoke about before, is, oh yeah, and that's a huge reason sex has disappeared. People need to stop doing that.”
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