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Kate Darling

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“In a good and bad way. So the good way is like you can form a connection with a thing in a bad way that you can form a connection in order to sell you products that you don't want.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One second later, right? Like there's an exact, like, there's a timing when you get like, I don't know, when you run into, when you run your foot into like the side of a table or something, there's a timing there. The dynamics you have to get right for the actual screaming. Because the Roomba in particular doesn't, so I was... The sensors don't, it doesn't know about pain. I'm sorry to say. Roomba doesn't understand pain. So you have to correctly map the sensors, the timing to the production of the sound. But when you get that somewhat right, it's really weird feeling. And you actually feel like a bad person. But it makes you think because with all the ways that we talked about, that could be used to manipulate you.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I guess I misremembered the video. I saw the video a long, long time ago, or maybe heard somebody mention, and that just, it's the easy thing to program. So I did that. I haven't run those roombas for over a year now. But yeah, my experience with it was that. It's like they quickly become Like you remember them, you miss them, like they're real living beings. So the capacity to suffer is a really powerful thing. Even then that, I mean, it was kind of hilarious. It was just a random recording of screaming from the internet. But it's still as weird. There's a thing you have to get right based on the interaction, like the latency. There is. There is a realistic aspect of how you should scream relative to when you get hurt. Like it should correspond correctly.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, so I had the way I programmed the roombas is when I kick it, whenever contact between me and the robot is when it's screamed.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I wonder, I always wondered if you can have like, um, An entity living in a computer. Okay, this is going to be dark. I haven't always wondered about this. So it's going to make it sound like I keep thinking about this kind of stuff. No, but this is almost like Black Mirror, but the entity. convinced me. Or is able to convince you that it's being tortured. Inside the computer and needs your help to get out. Like this to me, suffering is one of the things that make you empathize with like we're not good at as you've discussed in other in the physical form, like holding a robot upside down, you have a really good examples about that and discussing that. I think suffering is a really good catalyst for empathy I just feel like we can project embodiment on a virtual thing if it's capable of certain things like suffering. I”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And even if a video game on a 2D screen is compelling enough, the thing that's immersive about it is I kind of put myself into that world. The objects you're interacting with, Call of Duty, things you're shooting, they're kind of... Your imagination fills the gaps and it becomes real. It pulls your mind in when it's well done. So it really depends what's shown on the 2D screen.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Makes you feel like. Because what makes a body a body is a thing that Can disappear like has a permanence. I mean, there's certain characteristics that you kind of associate to a physical object.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a virtual imagined PDF that I like. I wanted to mention which is. Like this kind of Strategies used across various marketing platforms. Basically, looking at traditional media, person to person interaction, targeted ads, influencers and social robots. This is the kind of idea that you've been speaking to. It's just a nice breakdown of that, that social robots have personalized recommendations, social persuasion, automated scalable, data collection, and embodiment. So person-to-person interaction is really nice, but it doesn't have the automated. And the data collection aspect, but the social robots have those two elements.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, go. Thank you. It's not stalking if it's public So there's You looked at me like you're offended. Like, how did you know?”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Still, it is a compelling and interesting form from a research perspective, like you said. You co authored a paper as you were talking about for Wii Robot 2022. Lula Robot Consumer Protection in the Face of Automated Social Marketing. I think you were talking about some of the ideas in that.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Didn't come out the way I meant it. It almost sounds like I don't want to robot to defend itself. Like, that's immediately you project. You know what I mean? Like. I think I just think that the social component doesn't require arms or legs or so on, right? As we've talked about. And I think that's probably where a lot of the meaningful impact that's going to be happening.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I actually personally just think that washing the dishes is. Harder than a robot that can be a companion. Being useful in the home is actually really tough.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You think it might be a little bit of a distraction? Oh, forget the Elon particular application, but. If you care about social robotics, the humanoid form is a distraction.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basic object manipulation, but not autonomous object manipulation. It's remotely controlled, but the intelligence on top of it, which was what would be required for automation, somebody else is supposed to do. Perhaps that's what we'll do the same thing ultimately. But it doesn't make sense because the goal of Optimus is automation. Without that, But then you never know. He's like, why go to Mars? Why?”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And somebody else is supposed to do the attaching. It's a platform that you can take in uneven ground and it's able to maintain balance, go into dangerous situations. It's a platform. On top of that, you can add a camera that does surveillance that you can remotely monitor. You can record, you can record the camera, you can remote control it, but it's not going to...”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For Spot to be effective at scale, I'm not sure Spot is currently effective at scale. It's getting better and better. But they're actually the thing they did is an interesting decision. Perhaps Thessalon doing the same thing, which is spot is supposed to be a platform for intelligence. So Spot doesn't have any high-level intelligence, like high-level perception skills. It's supposed to be controlled remotely.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But shouldn't you do that investment? In a way. So here's the thing if you build the human robot that works in the warehouse, that humanoid robot, and see, I don't know why Tesla's not talking about it this way. Far as I know, but like that human robot is going to have all kinds of other applications outside their setting. Like, to me, it's obvious. I think it's a really hard problem to solve, but whoever solves the human robot problem are going to have to solve the social robotics problem.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's not short-sighted. Short sighted, but it's not pragmatic to think any other way, to think that you're going to be able to change warehouses. You're going to have to”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I wonder if they maybe the answer they landed on is. Because they eventually went to spot, the earlier versions of Spot, so quadruped four-legged robot. But maybe they reached four, let's try to make. Like, I think they tried it and they still are trying it for Atlas to be picking up boxes, to moving boxes, to being, it makes sense. Okay, if they were exactly the same costs. It makes sense to have a humanoid robot in the warehouse.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you do different form factors, if you do industrial robotics, you're likely to actually not end up walking head into a social robot human robot interaction problem. If you create, for whatever the hell reason you want to, a humanoid robot, you're going to have to reinvent or not reinvent, but do introduce a lot of fascinating new ideas into the problem of human robot interaction, which I'm excited about. So like if I was a business person, I would say this is not, this is way too risky. This doesn't make any sense. But when people are really convinced, and there's a lot of amazing people working on it, it's like, all right, let's see what happens here. This is really interesting. Just like with Atlas and Boston Dynamics, I mean, they... I apologize if I'm ignorant on this, but I think they really.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The number one job of a robot is not to hurt a human, to avoid them, the collaborative aspect the human robot interaction. I think is not at least not in his... Not something he thinks about deeply. But my sense is if somebody like that takes on the problem of human robotics, we're going to get a social robot out of it. Like people, not necessarily Elon, but people like Elon. If they take on seriously these, um, I could just imagine with a humanoid robot, you can't help but create a social robot.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like, why colonize Mars? If you think from basic first principles, it doesn't make any sense Doesn't make any sense to go to the moon. It doesn't go. The only thing that makes sense to go to space is for satellites. But there's something about the vision of the future, the optimism laden that permeates this vision of us becoming multiplanetary. It's thinking not just for the next 10 years. It's thinking. Like human civilization reaching out into the stars, it makes people dream. It's really exciting. And that, they're going to come up with some cool shit that might not have anything to do with. Here's what I, because Elon doesn't seem to care about social robotics, which is constantly surprising to me. I talked to him. Humans are the things you avoid and don't hurt, right?”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Unfortunately, one company can't do that. We have to work together. It's like autonomous driving can be easily solved if you do V2I, if you change the infrastructure of cities and so on. But that requires a lot of people, a lot of them are politicians and a lot of them are somewhat, if not a lot, corrupt and all those kinds of things. I end the talent thing you mentioned is really really, really important. I've gotten a chance to meet a lot of folks at SpaceX and Tesla, other companies too, but they're specifically the openness makes it easier to meet everybody. I think a lot of amazing things in this world happen when you get amazing people together. If you can sell an idea like us becoming a multi-planetary species, you can say why the hell I would go to Mars?”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. So the question is do you build a world that's The general form of wheelchair accessible. All robot form factor accessible. Or do you build human”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's true. I don't want to get in the way they might solve this thing. And they might, it's like similar with Boston Dynamics. You can be a hater and you go up to Mark Reibert and just like, how are you going to make money with these super expensive legged robots? What's your business plan? This doesn't make any sense. Why are you doing these legged robots? But at the same time, they're pushing forward the science, the art of robotics in the way that nobody else does. And with Elon, they're not just going to do that. They're going to drive down the cost to where we can have humanoid bots in the home potentially.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Problem changes, but the pipeline doesn't change. Do it. So I don't, I don't obviously the optimism about how long it's going to take. I don't share. But it's a really interesting problem. And I don't want to say anything. Because my first gut is to say that why the humanoid formed, that doesn't make sense.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let's at the same time try to actually build a system that's cheap, not crappy, but cheap unless from first principles, what is the minimum amount of degrees of freedom we need? What are the joints? Where is the control set? Like how do we act, like where are the activators? What's the way to power this in the lowest cost way possible? But also in a way that's actually works. How do we make the whole thing not part of the components where there's a supply chain, you have to have all these different parts that have to feed us to do it all from scratch and do the learning, I mean, it's like immediately certain things like become obvious. Do the exact same pipeline as you do for autonomous driving, just the exact, I mean, the infrastructure that is incredible. For the computer vision, for the manipulation task, the control problem changes, the perception.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They weren't focused on doing the mass manufacture, people are focused on getting a thing that's, I don't know, I don't know exactly what the reasoning is, but it's the same Waymo. It's like, let's build a million dollar car in the beginning, or like multi-million dollar car. Let's try to solve that problem, the way Elon, the way Jim Keller, the way some of those folks are thinking is.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the way they're thinking about it, now they're not talking about all this social robotic stuff that you and I care about. They are thinking, how can we manufacture this thing cheaply and do it like well? And the kind of discussions they're having is really great engineering. It's like first principles question of like, why is this cost so much? Like what's the cheap way? Why can't we build? And there's not a good answer. Why can't we build this humanoid form for under $1,000? And like I've sat and had these conversations, there's no reason. I think the reason they've been so expensive is because they were focused on trying to”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's charming but also concerning and also like are you okay? I mean it's both hilarious it's whenever somebody you love like falls down the stairs it's both hilarious and concerning some dance between the two And I think that's essential for you almost want to engineer that in, except you don't have to because of robotics in the physical space is really difficult. Think I've learned to not discount the efforts that Elon does. There's a few things that are really interesting there. One, Because he's taken extremely seriously, what I like is the humanoid form, the cost of building a robot. I talked to Jim Keller offline about this a lot. And currently, humanoid robots cost a lot of money”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're much this, where I think being shitty at stuff is kind of what makes relationships great. Like you want to be flawed and be able to communicate your flaws and be unpredictable in certain ways. Like if you fell over every once in a while for no reason whatsoever, I think that's essential for like.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, the interesting thing about that is there's No interest. No discussion about the social aspect. I talked to him on Mike and off mic about it quite a bit. There's not a discussion about like, to me, it's obvious if a thing like that works at all, at all. In fact, It has to work really well in a factory. If it works kind of shitty, it's much more useful in the home.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There might be a lot to say. So, for people who are not aware, there's an Optimus Tesla's Optimus robot that's I guess the stated reason for that robot is a humanoid robot in the factory that's able to automate some of the tasks that humans are currently doing. And the reason you want to do this, the second reason you mentioned, the reason you want to do humanoid robots because the factory is built for the certain tasks that are designed for humans. So it's hard to automate with any other form factor than a humanoid. And then the other reason is because so much effort has been put into this giant data engine machine of perception that's inside Tesla autopilot that's seemingly at least the machine if not the data is transferable to the factory setting to any setting.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's no, see, that's the other thing. I think I'm a big person on. Execution is what matters. I mean, Like ideas are kind of true. A social robotics is a good example that there's been so many amazing companies that went out of business. I mean, to me, it's obvious, like it's obvious that there will be robotics company that puts a social robot on the home of billions of homes. It would be a companion okay. There you go. You can steal that idea. Do it”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“By one of the big corporations. But that's the old fashioned things that people. Yearn for because Think is very popular now, and people understand the negative effects of social media, the negative effects of the data being used in all these kinds of ways. I think we just waking up to the realization we tried, we're like baby deer finding our legs in this new world of social media, of ad-driven companies and realizing, okay, this has to be done somehow different. One of the most popular. Notions, at least in the United States, that social media is evil and is doing bad. It's doing bad by us. It's not like it's totally tricked us into believing that it's good for us. I think everybody knows it's bad for us. And so there's a hunger for other ideas.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's actually trying to discover what you want. So it's not allowed to have any influence, no promoted ad, no anything. So it's finding, I don't know, the thing that would actually make you happy. That's the only thing it cares about. I think companies like this can win out”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you use the robot to buy, first of all, the robot should probably cost money. Cost money, like the way Windows operating system does. I see it more like an operating system than like this thing is your window, no pun intended into the world. So it's helping you. It's like a personal assistant, right? And so that should cost money. Whatever it is, 10 bucks, 20 bucks. Like that's the thing that makes your life significantly better. This idea that everything should be free is like it should actually help educate you. You should talk shit about all the other companies that do stuff for free. But also, yeah, in terms of if you purchase stuff based on its recommendation, it gets money. So it's kind of ad driven, but it's not ads. It's like, um, It's not controlled no external entities can control it. To try to manipulate to want a thing”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but shitty companies will do that. I think ultimately that confusion should be alleviated by the robot should actually know you better and should not have any control from the company.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You actually want to support. And so, like, you end up using it, and then you're able to actually, like, there's no incentive to like. Shill for anybody.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's different with podcasts with my particular situation, but it's true for a lot of podcasts, especially big ones, is, you know, I have 10 times more sponsors that want to be sponsors than I have.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The default is in no way at all. And you're consciously constantly saying exactly how to use it. And also it has to do with the recommender system itself from the company, which is Freezing your eggs. If that doesn't make you happy, if that idea doesn't make you happy, then the system shouldn't recommend it and should be very good at learning. So, not the kind of things that the category of people it thinks you belong to would do, but more you specifically what makes you happy, what is helping you grow.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All of us opting into this, but there's a bunch of sneaky decisions along the way that could be avoided if there's transparency. So one of the ways that goes wrong if you share that data with too many ad networks. Don't run your own ad network. Don't share with anybody.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I would ask for Your specific fashion interest in order to give recommendations to you for shopping. And I'd be very clear for that. You could disable that. You can delete that. But then you can have a deep, meaningful rich connection with a system about what you think you look fat in, what you look great in, what like the full history of all the things you've worn, whether you regret that Justin Bieber enjoy the Justin Bieber shirt, all of that information that's mostly private to even you, not even your loved ones. A system should have that because then a system, if you trust it, to keep control of that data that you own, you can walk away with. That system could tell you a damn good thing to wear.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, so you have to opt in constantly and opt in not in some legal, I agree, but obviously show like in the way I opt in to tell you a secret. Like we understand that I have to choose how well do I know you? And then I say like, don't tell this to anyone. And then I have to judge how leaky that you are to keep your secrets. In that same way, like it's very transparent in which data you're allowed to use for which purposes.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, see, I think Think that kind of personalization should be. Redefine how we treat data. I think you should own all the data your phone knows about you and be able to delete it with a single click and walk away. And that data cannot be monetized or used or shared anywhere without your permission. I think that's the only way people will trust you to use that data.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Partially, but not really, because I know they're not going to do it. They don't have to, it's bad for business in the short term.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think the future, the next trillion dollar company will be those personalization. Because if you think If you think about all the AI we have around us, all the smartphone and so on, there's very minimal personalization.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Amount of deep heartbreak that's happening. And if you're going to have Alexa have more of a personal connection with the human, you're going to have humans that have existential crises. There's a lot of people that suffer from loneliness and depression. And like you're now taking on the full responsibility of being a companion to the roller coaster of the human condition. As a company, imagine PR and marketing people. They're going to freak out. They don't have the guts. It's going to have to come from somebody, from a new apple, from those kinds of folks, like a small startup.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My gut says that these companies don't have the guts. Do the personalization. This goes to the because it's edgy, it's dangerous. It's going to make a lot of people very angry. In the way that just imagine, okay, all right, if you do the full landscape of human civilization, just visualize the number of people that are going through breakups right now, just the amount of really passionate, just even if we just look at teenagers.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Currently, Alexa, I mean, one of the downsides of these systems is they don't. They're servants Of the, you know, they're trying to maintain privacy, I suppose, but I don't feel seen with Alexa.”
2022-10-15 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source