YouSaid · the spoken record

Kelsi Sheren

lines on the record: 316
first: 2021-10-14
most recent: 2021-10-14
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

Every line below is reproduced as it was said and linked to the record it came from. Nothing here is summarised or generated. Directory · Search · Corrections

“Some of the baddest dudes I've ever known are like, I gotta go to yoga. I gotta go meditate. Go do Aya with those guys. Why? Because they know that that's not okay to be like that in your life.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Time because of the way the system is set, you'll lie about it through your fucking teeth, just so that no one touches you.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We know there's PTSD. We know there's such a thing. We understand there's anxiety and depression. We understand that there are precursors, there are signs and symptoms. We understand that. So why are we not building enough of a toolkit, whether that be, I'm not talking medication, I'm talking, but fucking trust me it works. I'm talking meditation. I'm talking yoga. I'm talking about peer group support. I'm talking about if you go to your doctor and report this, you're not automatically going to be losing your job. Why aren't we giving the proper tools and the education needed? These things are not difficult to teach. They don't take a lot of time. They don't take a lot of money. The only time it takes a lot of money is when you want to medicate. We don't need to medicate you yet. You only need to be medicated if you're a danger to someone else or yourself. And most of the time.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ah, they've bucked with the brain a little bit. I mean, in basic training, they like scream in your face and to see who's going to crack. And they put you on sleep deprivation to see who's weak enough that they can't handle sleep depth. They do stuff to you. Like I know if you're a downed pilot, you have to go and you have to do this training and like it's, you'll get captured. It's like this whole thing. They fuck with your brain, but there's a line. There's a line. My issue is. Go to the line, cross the line, give them the tools to come back from the line. We don't do that. We don't.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, yes, and the reason I can say that is because it's obvious in the way that they handle it now. So, like, if a soldier says, hey, I'm really struggling with that last stop you were on, man. It's just really getting to me. I'm having a hard time sleeping, they're going to go. Okay, well, how hard of a time sleeping are you having? And then you get that re and you go, oh no, I'm not, it's not that bad. I don't need anything for it. Like I'm just like once in a while I'm losing some sleep. They're like, okay, because you know that pen moves, it's all getting written down. And then you're dagged red, which means you're not deploying again. And then you're not able to do the thing you love the most with the people you love the most.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was not dumb, but I was naive, uneducated, not well trained, but Had an arrogance because we were told we were the fucking shit. You're amazing. Okay, I'm amazing.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They didn't know I was just drugged. They just thought I was fucking off somewhere hanging out with some Americans. They just thought I wasn't doing any of what I should be doing. And then I remember the moment my sergeant, we did a night shoot. And he's so funny because he called me, he goes, ah, fuck Bernseck, I remember this, yes. You were standing there with me and I look at you and go, hey, Burns, are you okay? Your eyes are all And I looked at Sergeant LeBlanc, and I just remember going, yeah, like, I'm good. Like, just. He's like, I still remember that. And I'm like, I know. And he goes, they never tell me anything. Fuck Burns. I did not know the drugs you were on. And as I was on all of them, he goes, I know I walk in, you show me the bottles. Fuck Burns. You should not have been there.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I just held myself and cried. I didn't even know why I was crying. I just knew I needed to cry. Still to this day, When they sent me back to the fall, they sent me back with all this medication after spending that time with the Brits. And they put me back on the guns, medicated out of my fucking tree. I almost shot someone. But they didn't tell my staff that I was on meds. So, when the artillery gun was going off and I didn't run to the gun and I was still asleep inside the tent with the gun beside my head,”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, because I was borrowed, I think Jocko had a name for us when we get borrowed. It was like there was like a, I don't know what they call us, but it's like when you take a person and you put them in another unit, there's a name for it. I don't remember what it was. You never see those people again. But because I was in Kandahar, the doctors gave me the medication because I think I was the one who said, I don't, this isn't right. I don't feel right. This is wrong. Because when I got back that night. Was supposed to be somebody there to pick me up to take me to the other side of the base, and no one showed, so I humped on my kit back to the Canada house. And I remember getting in the shower And the rule was quick fucking showers. There's no water. I must have sat on that floor that shower for half an hour, 45 minutes”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then because there was deaths and we lost people on that operation, I had to go to the British side for the next, I think three or four days and recant word for word why what happened to a British MP who handwrote statements Had to do that on repeat to make sure we all had the same story. And nobody shot anybody in the back. And so that I don't think is a great way to do that after an after action. After action reports happen, but I don't think beating a dead horse and having somebody repeat, repeat, repeat, and then just imprint more and more and more. I don't know that that is a great way of doing that.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's funny because Joco asked me something and it made me, it's made me. I've really been thinking a lot about it. And he's like, Do you think if somebody of a leadership would have just sat you down? And Burns, what you're feeling is okay. What you're feeling is normal, what you're feeling is what happens when you're in something like this, do you think you would be where you are? And I said, well, I thought about it. And I'm like, you know, I don't think I would be because I wouldn't have been medicated out of my mind. I wasn't able to process anything because I was just given medication right from the get. So for me, what happened was once that light switch was off. I was sent back to Kandahar once the operation was over. We flew back to Kandahar, like with the Brits.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, she's so funny. She's coming out to help out again. She comes out to help out with Jack all the time. And my dad, there's still truck drivers. They're still on the road. They team drive. They have their little dogs and they go and they do their thing. I've had that relationship now, it's still strenuous. I still, when I'm having a hard time, she'll be the person I'll take it out on because I know she can take it, even though I know I shouldn't. It's like she's my safe space to be like, About everything, and she'll just be like, well, that's not nice. I'm like, well, you're not take it out on she knows. I don't mean it and I try. But for whatever reason, she just takes it and, um,”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then I had about 16 and I wore her down. I broke her. I shattered her ability to think that she could. Have any sort of relationship with me, you wouldn't want to have had a relationship with me.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It took different forms, but mostly would be directed at my mom. Because I know she would take it. And that was who I had. And I feel bad about it to the day. Like, I still, she listened to the Jocko podcast. And so did my dad. And my mom promised me she would never read my book because there's certain parts. I just, my dad on my deployment, when I called him and told him some of the stuff, he started crying. My dad doesn't cry. And he just said, please never tell your mother this. Do that to your mom. My mom, like my grandfather, came from Hungary, he escaped when the Nazis left and the Soviets came in. He wasn't great. A dad, my mom went through a lot as a kid. And that was because her dad was in the war. That was because her dad didn't know any better. She knew she couldn't be like that, so her way would yet be yelling.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My dad was brash and abrupt. So, like, I've caught myself doing that once in a while. So, like, if I did one thing wrong, if he was just in a mood, I would know it.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like who would call me like that, yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no. My parents were incredible. Like, my dad came from a family of a bajillion kids who lived in a farm with no running water with like super.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, yeah, I mean, my dad was gone a couple weeks at a time. So my mom stay-at-home mom had to handle me and my brother, who were both competitive athletes at the time, by herself. And when you come home and you have a daughter that just calls you like a bitch to your face because she can't, she's being bullied so bad that she can't understand why Also, doesn't know how to fix it, but has no other outlet anymore to kind of get rid of it. I was not nice. I was a really mean person. I broke my mom. I remember the day she stopped yelling. That's the day I know I broke her. I broke her.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know if I was happy. I'm realizing that now. I think I was, I think anger overtook who I was. And I think that's why I was such an angry individual towards my parents when I was in high school.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is like Is normal me now. This is who I am now, and I love that. But who I was before was. Motocross, Taekwondo, Tomboy, I didn't know how to dress. I thought that if you just wore the same jeans and t-shirt all the time, that was like acceptable behavior as a woman. I wore skate shoes. I went to a Catholic school that I refused to wear skirt at. I wore pants. I played hacky sack. I was so into sports. I cut and split wood with my dad on weekends. We heated our house that way. I would go in the transport. I stayed at a trouble for the most part. I think I was a fairly good kid. I was pretty angry, though, for most of my teenage life after my coach. I lost my way a little bit there. I was just crazier”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They both have CTE Know that they're both bruised Gray matters a little dicey on them. And it may sound the same, and it's not. So I'll try to explain it to you. Before that. You laugh because I can know it's coming I was even louder, even more obnoxious, even more outgoing. I know it's hard to believe.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so They were so gracious enough to sit with me and be like, What do you want the copy to be like? And I said, What do you think I want it to be? Like, what would you, if you could write one for me, what it'd be? And they're like, it's going to be around lifting people up. And I was like, okay, cool. And they're like, do you want to fuck in the title? And I was like, every other word, if we can have it. And they said, well, just do once. And I was like, okay, compromise. And so we came up with that copy and we put it on a mug, and we're going to be doing a shirt with them The whole thing to me was that embodied. What I stand for now and the healing I've gotten to now and the point I've gotten to now in my life because That fucking sandpit almost broke me. The face of the earth broke me.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, have the strength because you've once struggled, the best you have to come, the best you have to come from is the fucking worst you've had to take. So this is the mug there. We're sold out of them. We just got a bunch”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I knew you would like us. Why brought it? So I'm like, certain people would appreciate this. And so my whole thing, my hashtag is work hard, help harder. And that's the whole concept of what I do now. And so we did a mug and it's called Fucking Help Somebody. That's their like first tag. And then the rest is. Kindness is a wealth that increases, and it is given away. What you get in return isn't passed between hands but felt between hearts. It's precisely because you've been at the bottom that you can raise others up. It's because you've, sorry, I'm reading a photo here. You've been lost in the dark. You can lead others to the light. It's because you fought with yourself that you can bring peace to someone else”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Going to whoever I work with, I want to make sure that I'm working with people that I believe in, that I believe what they stand for. And I just think they're brilliant. So I got on the phone with them and I said, hi, I would like you to sponsor my podcast. And they said, cool, what's your podcast? And I was like, it's called Brass and Unity podcast. And I want to work with you guys somewhere. And they're like, okay, so like, what are you thinking? And I said, you know, I'm looking to do I would love one day to do something with you. I don't know what it would be, but I would like it to be something. And they said, you know, we do like, we have this book, but we also have like shirts and mugs with our sayings on them and prints. And so I was thinking to myself, I was like, well, if I just did like a mug with them, well, then I could, you know, that could work for what my company does, which is it's a jewelry company and sunglass company, but it could be like an add-on kind of.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I'm really happy about it because we created this with them with GFDA. I found out about them because my husband's office Atlas Neck Brace, he had his very first office. He had one of their prints done. And it was their original do the fucking work. And I was really excited about them once I found out because I'm like, well, fuck is my middle name. And I want to make sure that I am.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let me tell you about them quickly because we did a mug with them, and I was really excited about it, not because it was a mug. I'm a mug person.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Said it. It's fine. I'll say it. I should also send it to Trudeau as well. But, I mean, he probably wouldn't know how to read it. He just taught drama instead.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something like that. They are a design company. They've worked with Apple and Nike, and this is their book. It's been published by Harper Collins. And it is really just, it's an incredible, they're an incredible company. They're artistically like they're a design company. So you can see that you can see it's a design company. Oh yeah, they signed it for you. And the pages are beautiful, but they have a saying and then a paragraph about each saying.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They just got me on the phone and said, I don't know who the fuck you're talking to. I don't know how many people you're trying to get a hold of here, but you've got everyone looking for your family. I've gone to everyone I know. I've done stuff on Instagram. I've got a contact. The contact called me. I called them. I was handling this family. When they call you and say, We can't go back to the gate. My three year old just got beat up by the Taliban. And they say, what do we do now? I'm in Vancouver. Why am I being left to deal with this? Why is the civilian and ex-military population being left to deal with this? Why was this not thought out? We knew this was coming. We knew the timeframe.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My five year old could have done it better. He could have said, Mommy, why are we not keeping that bogram bass? Mommy, why are we not keeping that base just until we get everyone else that we need? Why are we going to a civilian airport that we don't control, that we don't understand? Mommy, why are we doing this when there's only one road to it? My five year old would have that conversation with me. It was so poorly done. It was so poorly executed, and no fault of the soldiers on the ground on their own. My God, I can tell you there's operators. I just call them A. I don't say who he is because he's told me not to. There's a guy named A. And there's another guy named R. And there's a few other named D. And these guys. It gave everything to try to pull my family when no one else would pull my family for me.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know about that, but I do know we have bases, we I say weeks, I serve with them, Americans have bases in Japan, Americans have bases in Korea. Americans have bases in Germany. There's reasons there's bases everywhere. There's a smart, there's an intellectual way to look at this. You want to be able to have eyes and ears. Can't have eyes and ears when you do things like you just did. The way that we pulled out of that country, the way that I hate saying American British because it puts like a blame on them. I say we because I'm a soldier. I'm a NATO soldier. Way we pulled out of that country”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A better way to go into the country, a better way to help the country I can't speak to that as much as I wish I could because I don't know that I would have all the answers.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is how they do it. This is how you should handle a situation like that. There was none of that. And something I speak about frequently, and I think it's important to acknowledge, is when you're doing any of that training, we are giving none of our soldiers proper mental health training, tools in that fucking toolbox or ways or things to look for on their buddy because we've created a system and a problem where if you say that you're ill or that you're struggling with PTSD, you're done. No one's going to say that. They're going to keep struggling with it. And that's when you get loose cannons. That's when you get problems happen. So you get fractures start to happen in leadership. And that's being seen and has been seen now for a while. So in terms of what we could have done, say, for a better”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a loaded question because you're talking to someone who had no hand in what happened other than do this and do that. So I can go from my perspective, which is there was probably plenty of things that we could have been doing better. I think there was a lack of leadership from the get-go. I think the preparation that the Canadian military gave me was nowhere sufficient for a deployment of that level. Mind you, things happened. didn't realize things would happen, but yet they happen, with little to absolutely no cultural idea was what I was walking into. Like when one male and the family grabbed the back of my vest because my hair was tucked and he thought I was a man going into a room with a bunch of women. I couldn't understand why he was attacking me. There was no real breakdown of this is what you're going into. This is the culture. This is why they do what they do.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because we're disposable numbers and we hire them out of high school when they're stupid enough to not understand what they're going to get themselves into. And then we blame it on themselves for making that decision by volunteering.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know they were there. The British that stayed on the ground that I contacted to literally confirm my biometric data and passports to get that family moved, they weren't there. That family would still be there. That three-year-old that got the shit kicked out of him by the Taliban that I was trying to exfil, Canada left him.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're turned down for everything. I've been turned down for hearing loss. They're saying it's not military related. They have PIs follow me. This is normal behavior. There's a veteran named Brock who was told by Trudeau in a meeting that after he lost his leg, he was just trying to get a new prosthetic because it was just killing him. Trudeau stood up in a meeting and said, you're just asking for too much. Less than six months later, he gave $10.4 million to an Afghan terrorist that was in the Canadian prison system. He won. Got 10.4 of our million taxpayer dollars. So I don't know that American government's any better, but what I do know is that the absolute fucking machines of human beings that stepped outside of the chain of command to pull my family out for me.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Canada put no more than 70 people on the ground for that pullout, and they were not allowed to leave the airport, and they left well before the pullout date. They left on the Thursday before the Tuesday. That was the 31st. There were high value Canadian visa holders that are still in that country that are on the top of a kill list. Canada's not doing anything about it. I'm disgusted in the way my government has acted because number one, there's an active lawsuit with veterans against the Supreme Court of Canada right now. We are leaving our vets and our Canadians stranded over there, and we are leaving the vets that have been maimed by this war in Canada.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, the government, the American government is a dumpster fire. Not saying that, but what I am saying is. At least they sent people to pull people or pull some people. Sent no one to pull anyone. I know for a fact because I helped move a family, I was fortunate enough to be given an opportunity to help move a high value nine-person family out of that country that worked in the government, that worked in prosecuting the Taliban, that were on a top of a list. I learned really quickly the ins and outs of things. And I'm really disgusted by it. I learned that Canada had the one email address that all Canadian Afghani or visa holders were supposed to email. Ottawa put two people on that email address That's confirmed”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What's that saying? Future behavior is a good, was it past behavior is a good indicator of future behavior? So I struggle with that because when I first found out that the pull-up was going to happen, I I got really angry because my government skated the whole situation because he's having a snuff. Canada's having a snap election. It's happening on the 20th. So that was beautifully planned by my government to hold no accountability. Zero accountability. And the media won't talk about it. They reached out to me to do an interview about Afghanistan. And then I told them what was going on after I talked to my people that were on the ground. And then they canceled the interview”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We have to look at war differently. There's times for violence. Oh, ho, ho, there's time for violence. And there's time for missiles and there is time for detainees and there's times for bag and tags and double typs of the fucking face. There's times. There needs to be more time Educate. The problem is, you can't educate if you're in a country where their culture doesn't believe in that. You're fighting so many different things that you. It's an almost impossible situation.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hate and violence won't work. It won't because you see dad get killed on the battlefield. Well, that 14 year old little boy is going to pick up an AK-47 and go avenge dad's death. That's just the way it's going to be. Well, we think about it. You were there for 20 years. There's a couple generations in there. There's another generation that's either grown up in this or has seen enough of this. So they're always going to be a subset that think that we're the enemy. And fair. We haven't done always the greatest things. But the one thing that we have done that I did participate in was giving literacy, giving girls an opportunity, letting them know that you aren't second class citizens. You can do things too. And that's why.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All right, I think there is room if you teach education. The problem is we've taken a massive step backwards. I know that the Taliban have just instituted this week honor killings will be back. Stonings are back and dismemberments as well. Holly McKay is the reporter that's been reporting that from the ground. She's still there. The way to pull people, in my opinion, out of something like that is through education. What we just took all of that away. Which is pretty horrific, in my opinion, because you've taught over 20 years, you're perfectly right, Lex. When you say that”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and then the Percy's go back there. They do great work for literacy. And you know as well as anyone, if you can teach someone to read Like your”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's the scarf right there that's made in Afghanistan So, when you buy something from them, the proceeds go to literacy in Afghanistan for girls. They've given literacy to 800 girls over there. Really cool Griff owns the one he was Army Ranger and his buddy, but Lee, I think, is his name, they were on Shark Tank a long time ago, but they do shoes and I think they're called schmongs. I don't know how to say it properly.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's exactly it. Like, combat flip flops does this. They do this. They give literacy. They teach girls to read, nothing else to read. Because as soon as you can read, you know what happens then.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can't beat radicalism like that right now. The problem is we've let it go unchecked. We had it kind of in check for 20 years. We just shot ourselves in the foot, the chest, and the face.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But here, Lex, you can't make sense of it. This is why they've done a really good job of blending into the civilian population. They've done it intentionally. They've done it on purpose. So they're brilliant. This is why you guys couldn't beat them. This is why we couldn't fucking beat them. They use their people so effectively. They have no shame in that. They have no issue with that. They take... No qualms with wiping a kid off the face of the earth if it means they can get close enough to a soldier to throw a fucking bomb into their tank. This is why they're affected.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think when I was a soldier, I could only carry one thing with me. I think my perspective has changed drastically, but not because I've lost the reality that they are the enemy. But I've gained my humanity back again. That's what I lost when I was there. I lost all humanity. I lost all hope for humanity. He's not wrong. When he says the Taliban, or like he was in Iraq, but for me, the Taliban are evil. I still hold a spot of hatred for them that could set this building on fire. You don't. I don't know that anybody can fully understand that. When you watch. They do to women and do kids, and they do it in the name of God, they are the enemy. They are less than they don't exist. They're barely worth the bullets we put into them.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Legit hatred. No, it was legit hatred, but also I no longer saw those people as humans It took one event. And when that happened, the rest of the operation was echoed in the way I was to those people.”
2021-10-14 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source