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  1. “Yeah, it's just wilderness. It's sort of just beyond the scope of it's not, it doesn't, or the local people that technically own the land out here, the local indigenous people. For instance, we fought this year to help the community of Puerto Nuevo, who's been fighting for 20 years to have government-recognized land. These are indigenous people in the Amazon fighting to protect their own land. And you know what it was that was holding them back? They didn't understand. How the system of legal documents worked to certify that titled land. They didn't really have the funding to go from their very, very remote community into the offices. And so jungle keepers helped them with that. And so, really, all we're doing is helping local people protect the forest that is their world.”

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  2. “So, the approaches that currently the government favors extractors. So if you're a gold miner or an illegal logger or you just want to cut down and burn a bunch of rainforests and set up a cacao farm, the government's fine with that. It doesn't matter. You're not really breaking the law if you destroy nature.”

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  3. “Mano National Park, Altopudos National Park, the Tambopata Reserve. We're in a region that's known as the Biodiversity Capital of Peru. One of the most biodiverse parts of the Western Amazon. And we're fighting along the edge of the Trans-Amazon Highway. And so it's just a small group of local people and some international experts who have come together and used these incredibly out of sight of the box strategies to sort of crowdfund conservation. To go, look, we know that this incredible life is here. We have the scientific evidence. We have the national park system. If we can protect this before they cut it down, we could do something of global significance. All these jaguars, all these monkeys, all these undescribed medicines, the uncontacted tribes that we share this forest with could all be protected. And people have stepped up and begun to make that happen. And as people from all over the world, it's incredible.”

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  4. “Since we printed this, it's gone up to 66,000 acres. And as you know, in each of those little acres or millions and millions of animal heartbeats and societies of animals, and the goal here is that we're between”

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  5. “Began showing up in droves and supporting jungle keepers putting in five, ten, a hundred, a thousand. We started getting these donations. And the incredible team that I work with, we all went into HyperDrive. Everybody. Everybody started going nuts. We all started spending 16-hour days working to try and deal with the tidal wave that Lex sent towards us just because so many people knew that we were doing this that was an indigenous-led fight to protect this incredibly ancient virgin rainforest before it was cut and people resonated with that. And so we got this huge swell of support. And this year we've protected thousands and thousands of more acres of rainforest because of that swell of support.”

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  6. “Quit and get real jobs, and if we could actually save the rainforest from the destruction that was coming. Lex Friedman sends me a DM. And honestly change the entire narrative because up until then we had been We've been playing in the minor leagues, pretending, trying real, real hard, and the listeners of your show in the moments after you published your episode with our conversation.”

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  7. “It's madness, like it's madness. It's pure madness. And I don't know what made us keep going, but along the way, people showed up who cared and who wanted to help. And if it was a movie, it wouldn't even necessarily be a good movie because you'd go, oh, please. You're just telling me that you just kept doing the thing and just magically people showed up. But yeah, that's what happened. That's exactly the way it went. We kept doing the thing that we loved. We said it doesn't matter if we don't have funding or a boat or gasoline or friends or anything. We just kept going. And along the way we found someone who could help us start a ranger program. And then we found Daxa Silva who helped us fund the beginning of jungle keepers. And then people like Mosen and Stefan who were there making sure that this thing actually took flight off the ground. And then right around the time that we were wondering what was going to happen and if we're all going to have to”

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  8. “Seeing a giant anaconda or having any sort of meaningful experience or contribution to the narrative and somehow overall the years that we began working together and sparked a friendship and began exploring and going on expeditions and bringing people to the rainforest and asking them for help and manifesting the hell out of this insane dream that we had. I mean, we didn't even have a boat. We would take logs down the river. We would have to cut a tree down every time we wanted to return to civilization. We'd have to cut down a balsa tree and float down the road.”

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  9. “And so there's very few references to this river in history. It stayed very wild because it's been a place that the law hasn't made it, the government hasn't really extended to. Like, you know, we're sort of past the police limit. And so JJ was out here ages ago trying to protect this river before it was too late. And when I met him, I was just a barely out of high school kid with a dream of just seeing the rainforest, let alone.”

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  10. “18 years ago when I first came to the jungle I was a kid from New York who always dreamed since I was six years old, maybe even younger of going to a place where animals were everywhere and there's big trees and skyscrapers of life. And so being dyslexic and not fitting in in school and reading about Jane Goodall and having Lord of the Rings be one of the things I grew up on, I just chose to come to the Amazon and the first person I met was this local Indigenous conservationist named Juan Julio Duran who was trying to protect this remote river the Las Piedres River, which in history apparently faucet referenced either the Les Piedras, but he called it Tawamanu and said don't go there. You'll surely die from tribes.”

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  11. “All my friends with kids that I've seen them go through where until you have a family, you're just Just playing around, man. I mean, you could do important work. You can have skin in other games, but it's once you have a little tribe of humans that depends on you. You take that seriously, if you want to do that right, it's one of the hardest things you could do. It just changes everything”

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  12. “I noticed that when things got especially hard and they did get especially hard when we were out in the wilderness. That you would Begin filming to share that struggle, but I also think that I've used that at times. Where, yeah, you go, maybe if I, because if you can tell someone else about it, then you're on the hero's journey. And then it sort of has to make you braver. And it changes how you, because I'm cold and I'm tired and I'm hungry and this hurts and that hurts and I don't know when we're going to make it and how is this going to go? And all of a sudden, well, guys, we're here. And we're going that way.”

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  13. “We're not meant for that. I really love the people I have in my life, and I wouldn't. And you see on the show, a lot of the people. Big tough ex Navy SEALs who are survival experts who know what they're doing, they get out there and they go, you know what? I miss my family. And they go, it's not worth it. They have this existential realization. They go, we only got, I only got so many years here. Like, let's, this is crazy. It's just some money. Fuck it. They go home.”

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  14. “Could I wouldn't sign up for another hundred days At this point, I don't have that to prove. I've survived in the wild. And I wouldn't want to voluntarily take a hundred days away from everyone I know”

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  15. “She was incredible. And I thought as brash and sort of fun as Roland was, she represented a much more beautiful take on it. And it was really heartbreaking when she lost. Because, I mean, and like you said, still a badass. It's kind of like Farrellin versus Stefan Bonner. It doesn't matter who won. You guys beat the shit out of each other.”

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  16. “Way that I understood that is because they have, I said, that's impossible I remember that. She's like pulling up her shirt and she's like, There's something, and then she like pushes it out And I remember I was like, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. How? And it was because the barbs, once it goes in, as you move and flex your body, it moves a little bit each time and it gets migrate like. Didn't even think of that shit”

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  17. “And that's an amazing amount of pragmatic optimism that I just enjoyed. Every time he would go, Gotta get back to Rock House, and it became even though he's all alone. He had a big smile on his face, and what made that season so great was that it was him, and then it was Callie And Roland had the muscle and could make rock house. And then Callie was the opposite. She was this girl who, yeah, she could hunt with her bow and she knew how to fish. And she wasn't using raw power. She was smiling every time the show cut to her. She was like, everybody, it's morning. Can you believe the frost? Like, you've been out there for 100 days. Amazing opta. I think it was really an amazing show of that the game is all here, the game of life, the game of alone and the game of life. Because it's the same thing.”

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  18. “Think he was fun to watch because he had this indomitable spirit. He was just, he wasn't there to commune with nature. He was there to win. And he was like, to me, that's the pioneer mentality. He was just, he was, I'm a hunting guide. I'm out here. I'm going to win that money. I'm going to survive through the winter. He wasn't worried. I feel like so many people are like they worry second guessing themselves. Am I in a video game? I don't know. What's my, you know, just questioning their entire existential identity? And this guy was like, you know what? There's a muskox over there. I'm going to shoot it. I'm going to stab it. Then I'm going to make a pouch out of its ball sack and I'm going to live off that for the next few months and win a half a million dollars.”

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  19. “Yeah, sure, but you know, you just look so, you know, your white naked ass laying there in the jungle, you'd be like face down shit.”

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  20. “Just get in there. Just like nature is metal, just like when they walk in through the elephant's ass. I'd want that on camera trap. I think that would be a great way to go.”

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  21. “Fall quickly. They're huge. We're talking about trees that are like the size of school buses stacked. And connected to other trees with vines so that when they fall, this millennium tree, this thousand year old tree, boom, it shakes the ground, pulls down other trees with it. So if you're anywhere near that for a few acres, you're getting smashed. That's the end of you. And so the jungle at any moment that you're out there could just decide to delete you. And then the leaf cutter ants and the army ants and the flies and everything. You'll be digested in three days. You'll be gone. Gone. No bones, nothing.”

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  22. “Like day one, it was very much like so, are we gonna, and then I could tell, I could see your brow sort of furrow when you, I would go, I don't know what time we're gonna get there. And you'd go, we'll just tell me. And I'd be like, I don't know what the jungle's going to let us do, you know, let's do, let's record the podcast tomorrow. Okay, but if it, you know, if it rains, if it gets windy, if it Friaje comes, if there's a... A jaguar with rabies like anything could happen. Like anything, literally.”

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  23. “And so we decided to cover our bags with our boats that we had been carrying, our pack rafts that we'd been carrying in our backpacks. So all of our gear would stay dry. So the only thing we could do is either sit in the rain and be cold or sit in the river and be warm. And so keeping our gear dry momentary discomfort for future, you know, that to me was an incredibly smart calculation to make. You got to be smart out here. You can't. Not running out of a headlamp while you're out on the trail and being stuck in that darkness. It really takes just being a little bit on your toes. And I find that necessity of being on your toes is a place that I like to live in. It's just the right amount of challenge here.”

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  24. “Cleanlin I mean, really, we talked about this, but like, you know, keeping, I have so many holes in my skin right now. Like, I have a mosquito. We go. I have so many spots that I've scratched off of my skin because a mosquito bites me I scratch it, or the other big one is that I worry that I have a tick. Not. Deliberately, not with my thinking brain, but my simian brain just wants to find and remove ticks. And so I scratch, and then if my fingernails get too long, I remove my skin, and then those get infected in the jungle. And so staying hyper clean. Using soap, like basic stuff, keeping order to your bags, order to your gear, things in dry bags. Make sure we explained that we got in the river during a thunderstorm. We didn't explain why we did that because the thunderstorm came when we had eaten dinner, but we hadn't set up our tents.”

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  25. “Sort of undulated Tinamu sounds like. And it's usually like, oh, it is getting to be afternoon. It's kind of, it's almost like hearing church bells on a Sunday. It's like you just, there's something about it. You go, ah, there he is.”

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  26. “Undulated Tinamu because in the crepuscular hours of dawn and dusk, they're usually the ones that make up what is considered by many to be the anthem of the Amazon.”

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  27. “Dude, pages on pages of toucans and RSARs and And hummingbirds and ant birds and smoky brown woodpecker and tropical screech owl, which we just heard, by the way. It's endless. Who knew there were so many birds? I had no idea there were so many birds.”

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  28. “As you have this bird, and so perfectly preserving that specimen. And I think a lot of non scientific people don't realize that every species from blue whale to elephant to blue jay to sparrow, whatever, whatever it is, whatever species we have on record, they're a scientific specimens. And the first people to see them shot them. And that's this museums are filled with these catalogs, preserved birds that these explorers brought back from New Guinea and South America and Africa and then put into these drawers. And now we labeled them. And we said, this is red and green. This is scarlet macaw. This is... Brown crested ant bird, and this is, and it's just they're just categorized.”

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  29. “I mean, they're clearly pressing botanical specimens. They're probably shooting birds. And Roosevelt knew how to... Knew how to preserve those specimens. I mean, he really was a naturalist, so he knew exactly. So if he's seeing these animals, to them, whereas we'll take a picture and identify it, they were harvesting specimens, taking them with them, drying them out. For them, it was totally different, and it could be the first, I forget what JJ said. There's something like 70 species of ant birds here. And it's like, so how likely are you to be the first person to ever see this one species of bird? And so for them.”

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  30. “I think it's all there is. If you hear about the people, and I think that that is a tremendous metaphor for life, because whether you hear about that plane that crashed in the Andes and the people were alone and freezing and they had to eat each other. Some of them made it out. Some of them kept the fire burning. And Teddy Roosevelt voluntarily, after being president, threw himself into the Amazon rainforest. And survived came so close to dying but survived, and so perseverance is all of it. I mean, I think that's our quality as a human”

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  31. “Spectacle case and through his speech, and even though the bullet was lodged in his chest, this man said Don't hurt the guy that shot me. I believe he asked him why'd you do it? And then as he's bleeding and in the rain, said, no, no, I'm not going to the hospital. I'm going to keep going with the speech. What a badass. That's incredible.”

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  32. “I mean, he must have just been a psychopath and had no fear. And then proving it further was that thing where he was going to give a speech to a bunch of people and he got shot in the chest. Yeah.”

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  33. “I mean, Teddy Roosevelt, you could write volumes on what's inspiring about him. I think that he was a weak, asthmatic little rich kid that wasn't physically able, that had no self-confidence. And he had pretty severe depression. He had tragedy in his life. And he was very, at least for me, he's been one of the people, like in one of the first historical figures who where he wrote about the struggle to overcome those things and to make himself from being a weak asthmatic little teenager to sort of strengthening himself and building muscle and becoming this barrel-chested lion of a guy who could be the president, who could be an explorer. And one of the rough riders. And everything he does is so hyperbolically incredible to come out of. War and have the other people you fought with go, this guy has no fear”

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  34. “The fact that she did what she did at the age that she did, at the time that she did Is incredible. It's actually incredible. She has that explorer gene, and she also has that relentlessness is like this incredible quality. She just, you know, she travels 300 days a year, educating people, talking around the world, trying to help bolster conservation now before it's too late. And traveling 300 days a year is not fun. Traveling at all can be not fun.”

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  35. “In terms of saying that animals have personalities and culture and their own inalienable rights and reasons for existing and that human life is valuable, she's very big on that every day. We influence the people around us and the events of the earth. Even if you feel like your life is small and insignificant, that. You do have an impact. And I think that's a really powerful little candle out there in the darkness that Jane carries.”

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  36. “Read until I was quite old, and my mom was a big Jane Goodall fan, and all I wanted to hear about was animals. I would get read to about this lady named Jane Goodall, this girl who went to Africa and studied chimps and who broke all the rules and named her study subjects, even though that wasn't what she was supposed to do, and she became this incredible advocate for Earth and for ecosystems and for and she seemed to realize as her career went on that teaching children to appreciate nature was the key. Because they're going to that thing where she says we don't so much. Inherit the earth from our ancestors, but borrow it from our children Just here, we're just passing through. And so if we destroy it, we're dimming the lights on.”

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  37. “I think that Jane is like a living historical treasure. Like I think somehow she's alive, but she's already reached that level where it's... Einstein, Jane, Goodall, like there's these incredible minds You know, growing up as a child, my parents would read to me because”

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  38. “Because if we had gotten lost, Pico was saying to me. One of you had broken your leg. It's days in either direction. Even if they had sent help for us, help would take how long to scour all that jungle. Sound doesn't travel even a helicopter, even if they looked for us, they wouldn't be able to see us. How would we signal for help? You can't really build a fire, and so it's like, if anything had gone wrong, if we'd gone a few degrees different to the west, it would have taken us two more days. If we'd gotten injured, it'd be Carrie through that. And so somehow only afterwards am I really going, wow, thank God we got out of this. Thank God. After I see so many people going, make sure nothing happens to Lex Friedman. Yeah. I'd be the deadest motherfucker on earth if anything happened.”

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  39. “Well, I think that what we did was to a pretty extreme level because we left the safety of a river, of knowing where we were, and voluntarily got lost in the Amazon with very little provisions. Now that we're back, now that we experience what we experience, I really can't stop thinking about how fucking stupid it was that we did that”

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  40. “Those things. And then I would just say, do you feel like I feel like running no matter how much I run? I feel like you run, you do a workout and then you stop. Maybe people who do ultras feel this, but like I felt like we woke up. It was like, you know, wake up at dawn 6 a.m. Let's start walking, you know, break camp, go. And it's like pretty much you just don't stop all day. And it's level 10 cardio all day long. Your sweating buckets, and there's no water. It's like you would never put yourself through that voluntarily. You couldn't. You would never have the resolve to continue torturing yourself, except for that we were trying to make it to freedom, to get out. And it's like the obsession of that with the compass and the machete and the navigating fuck. I think there's something.”

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  41. “Well, I mean, we were in the river, in a thunderstorm, just next above. We're all laughing our asses off. And I mean, we're in the river with the stingrays and the black came in and the farana and all the electric eels and everything. And it's pitch black out. And then what were we doing? We were holding our headlamps up, and there was those swirling moths, the infinity moths, all making those geometric patterns. And it's like, we're just. Three ridiculous primates, three friends in a river just laughing. Because we were safer in that river than we had been in there and we were rejoicing. The thunderstorm was compared to the war zone that we'd been living in, the thunderstorm was safe. And it really was a beautiful moment.”

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  42. “And so that's it. You go, I don't care anymore, and you reach out and I'm just going to lean against this tree. And then what happened?”

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  43. “Yeah, there's this thing that they say where all the pleasure in life is derived from the transitions. You're cold, warm feels good. When you're hot, cold feels good, when you're hungry, food feels good, and when you're that thirsty, water becomes God. And it's all you want. And also the other thing is that when we're out there, it felt so good to be so lost and so tired. And so we were doing levels. How would you describe the physicality of what we were doing, the level of physical exertion?”

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  44. “And I feel like in that moment, we were united in the simple reality of the fact that we were so thirsty that it hurt. And that it was a little scary.”

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  45. “Whole time. So that's actually a really good way to, there was this moment that Watched where you were washing a shirt in this pathetic puddle because we had no water and because we had walked all day and tripped all day and gotten thorns in our hands and our feet and our legs and we were lost in the jungle and it was nighttime and we didn't know if a big tree was going to just fall on us and mousetrap kill us and there's a lot of uncertainty but I watched something very special happen to you and that was I saw you crouching by the side of this puddle it wasn't even a flowing stream so we couldn't drink it And you were just trying to wash the sweat off of your shirt, and you looked at me and you just said, The only thing that I care about right now is water.”

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  46. “They understand the consequences of life. They understand the fish and how hard it is to get them and the basic rules of the wind and the rain and the river, and that we all have to play by those and that it's, and you talk to a grieving mother and ask her if she's living inside a video game. And it's like the people, to me, this whole thing of, oh, are we living in a simulation? To me, that's the infirmary of society starting to... To parody itself. It's people going, I have no meaning in my life anymore. So is this even real? And again, go ask the Sherpa. Go ask the Eskimo. They're not worried.”

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  47. “Okay, I think I'm just going to take a stand here. I think that because I'm just sick of fucking playing it halfway. I think that because people live indoors in climate controlled boxes in cities far away from nature, they've completely lost track of everything that's real and they've started to think that we're living side of simulation. Notice that nobody carrying an alpaca up a mountain thinks that we're living inside of a video game. They all know that it's real because they've had babies on the floor of a cold hut.”

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  48. “Where I came up with my idea that deep space or just space, outer space is just the outside of the video game. And this is it. Because when I was on ayahuasca, I was one of the jungle creatures and I wasn't Paul. And I didn't have a name. And for long time, I saw many things. And I was, I arrived at this spot in the jungle where there was a big tree and all the animals were there. And they were all, not in words, not in any language that we can understand, but they were all discussing what to do about the threat. And it was all leaving. It was all flying up. And it was fire. And the jungle was being destroyed. And it was like, and then after that, it was just space and stars and silence, like crushing vacuum silence for years. And that was terrifying. That was fucking terrifying. When I came back and I had hands, man.”

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  49. “I want to see you and Jordan Peterson do ayahuasca together. That's the thing. Ayahuasca to me, I've kind of told you about I've experienced some things that really made me believe that there's a benevolent force around us. But to me, ayahuasca. Was A ride through the scariest parts of the universe to sort of be like here's what it could be like, you know, the”

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  50. “You're so deep inside, like falling through nebulas, out in space, no physical form, or crawling through the jungle. Like, it's like it's really, really powerful. Like, it's not like the recreational drugs that everyone does, like where you go, I did mushrooms and I could see, so I could see music. And I was talking to my friends, but no, no, no. Like your face down on the floor, usually vomiting, sometimes shitting, you know, having dialogues with the creator. And that can be traumatizing as well as amazing.”

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