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  1. Don't exist here, and that's in the mammal paper that we did with the Emperor Tamarins and the pygmy marmosets that the Rangers found.

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  2. Maybe some of the tribes have been there. Maybe some areas they haven't been. Now, when you're talking about scientists, whether they're indigenous scientists, Western scientists, whatever, so many of the areas in this jungle that is the size of the continental US still have not been accessed, and the places where people are doing research, because I've been down here long enough. I see all the PhDs come down here and they all go to the same few research stations. They're safe. They have a bed. If you get Helladrod into the middle of the jungle, in the deepest, most remote parts, you're going to find microecosystems. You're going to see little species variations. You're going to see a type of flower that JJ's never seen before, like what happened the other day. As you start walking through new patches afar, you start finding new species, and everything here changes. You just go a little bit upriver, and the animals you see differ. You go on this side of the river versus on the north side of the river, this two other species of primates there.

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  3. Just think about this. I think scientifically because people like to summarize, people like to get really, really sort of cavalier with our scientific progress. And they go, you know, we've already explored the Amazon. It's like, well, have we? Because in between each tributary is, you know, let's say just between some of them, let's just say 100 miles of unbroken forest, who's explored that?

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  4. As supernatural as skydiving. It's a strange thing to be able to do that technology allows us to do. We're doing something really complex, and we're walking on trails that have been cleared for us, that we've planned out. And so walking through the jungle at night, you just get this freak show. Of biodiversity, and I'm addicted to it. I truly love it.

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  5. Everything you hear, the cicadas, the birds, they're all screaming about sex. The time. So they're just trying to get laid So, all of them are making mating calls. Now, the trick is to make your mating call without attracting a predator. But at night, what amazes me is that for us, it's so from the caveman logic of it's hard to make fire here. It's hard to even light a fire here. Having this incredible beam of it, all of a sudden we can look at the jungle. And walk through that darkness, then we're seeing the frogs on those leaves and the snakes moving through the undergrowth, and the deer sneaking through the shadows. It's like it's almost.

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  6. Yeah. So we're out there and there's deer and there's cats and there's a jaguar and there's a puma and there's all these animals out there. We're out in the night in the inky black night in this ocean of darkness beneath the trees, and we're just exploring and getting to see everything. And there's all these little eyes and heartbeats. I love the jungle at night, man. It's the most exciting thing.

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  7. Think it's more complex than we realize. You go back to that Friends to Wall book, are we smart enough to know how smart animals are? There's so many incredible examples of controlled studies where the researchers weren't understanding how to shed being so insurmountably human and understand that there are other types of intelligence. And whether that's elephants or cats. So big cats, for instance, we just saw a camera trap video from last night. Where you see one of our workers walk down the trail and then five minutes later a cat behind him.

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  8. Or a Tyra, which is a, they call it Manko here. It's a huge arboreal weasel. And they'll come check you out. I woke up at my house the other day, and there was a Tyra climbing up the side of the house, and he was looking down at me sleeping. And it's like, he came to check me out. Like, it's like they're smart enough and they're brave enough. Here's the important thing. They know that they can fend for themselves. They can fight. They can climb. They can run. And so they're like, let me I'm curious. I got time, let me check this out.

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  9. Think it's based in predatory instincts, but I also think there is a playfulness to higher intelligence animals that you don't see in lower intelligence animals. And so Something like a rabbit. For instance, you're never going to see a rabbit come in to check you out You can't even think of it like that. Like a rabbit's just going to either eat or run away. There's really two settings. When you think of something like a giant river otter.

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  10. Know mountain lions, comas, whatever the, you know, there's all different names for them. They're distributed from, I think, from Alaska down through Argentina. They're everywhere. It's an extremely successful species. From deserts to high mountains. Everything

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  11. And that guy didn't lie. Some people you trust your sources on that. He saw enough stuff he didn't need to make up stories. And you know how you, you know what I love now is when you go to, when you ask people, when we were going up the mountain with Jimmy. JJ said to him, He goes, Have you ever seen a puma up here in the mountains? And Jimmy goes, they're up here, and JJ went, no, no, have you seen it? And Jimmy went, no, never seen one. And you know how most people will go. Makes me trust a person when they admit, nah. I haven't seen it

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  12. Anything could happen. One of the things that me and Pat wrote up was that I saw a yellow-tailed creepo, which is like a six foot rat snake eating an oxyropus melanogenes, which is the red snake that we found last night. And just no one had ever in scientific literature we'd never seen a cribo eating an oxyropas before. And so I had the observation in the field. I sent it to Pat Champagne. Pat writes it up. Paper. And so it's like, it's this really cool, that's a really cool system because we're just out here all the time. You end up seeing things. JJ's dad saw anaconda eating a taper. Taper is the size of a cow.

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  13. Or they would have a big showdown, and one of them would either die or have to leave. They would have a territorial dispute.

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  14. technically occupy the same type of environment that black caiman's going to have this deep spot in a lake and that Anacona is going to have found this floating forest like sort of black stream backwater where it's going to be and they'll have made that their home for decades and they'll already have cleaned out the competition so maybe if there was a flood and they got pushed together they could have some sort of a showdown but almost more certainly is that when they get to that size that came in at any sign of danger right under the water just beyond it's almost like it's like even if you what do you learn when you're a black belt you know what what do you do with a street fight you still run away There's no reason for a street fight. And I think the animals really understand that. There's no reason for this.

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  15. I don't think a large black came in. Here's the thing. Every fisherman knows this. Like the biggest fish, they're smart. And more importantly, they're shrewd. They're careful. A huge black caiman that's sixteen feet long isn't going to be messing with a big anacond. Like they'll, they won't.

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  16. Defending State. Not unless you have outside help, unless you have another human or another 10 humans coming to unwrap the tail. But for an animal, like if a deer gets hit by an animal, there's no way. Don't stand a chance

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  17. It's no, it's incredibly quick. So it's you take the back and get me into chokehold. It's that. I have maybe 30 seconds, maybe on the upward side if you haven't cinched it under my throat. But if you've gotten good position.

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  18. He's going to realize that he's also being constricted, so then he's going to stop and he's going to keep slamming down on that anaconda. And the Anaconda is just going to keep constructing, but if the caiman can do enough damage before the, again, it's almost like a striker versus a jujitsu. Yeah.

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  19. I think it's a death stalemate. I think the Cayman slams the Anaconda bites onto it. The Anaconda wraps the Cayman and then they both thrash around until they both kill each other. Because I think the Cayman will tear them up so bad.

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  20. And for most of the species that fill the butterfly book, we don't know what those interactions are. I recently got to see the white witch, which is a huge moth. It's one of the two largest moths in the world. It's the largest moth by wing span. Wow. Huge. It looks like a bird. Big white moth. We still, I believe, I believe that we still don't know what the caterpillar looks like. It's in 2024. We have iPhones and Penis-shaped rocket ships like We don't know where that moth starts its life. We still haven't figured that out

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  21. Yeah, I mean, look, there's so much that we don't know about this far. We don't know what medicines are in this forest. We don't know with a lot of the 1,500, something like 4,000 species of butterflies in the Amazon rainforest. And of the 1,500 species that are here in this region, all of them have a larval stage, caterpillars, right? And each of the caterpillars has a specific host plant that they need to eat in order to become a successful butterfly to enter the next life cycle and

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  22. And so now, as we keep going, I'm going, well, maybe through drone identification, we could find where the largest anacondas are sitting on top of floating vegetation. And even then, how do we restrain them so that we could measure them and prove this to the world? It's sort of a side quest, but...

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  23. When you think of the fact that in order to learn anything about this species, you have to spend vast amounts of time first locating them. And then finding out a way to keep tabs on them. Because even if you get lucky enough to see an anaconda by the edge of a stream, to be able to observe it over time, to learn its habits or to put a radio transmitter on it, or to take any sort of valuable information from the experience is almost impossible. And so a lot of the stuff that I wrote about Mother of God, us jumping on Anacondas and trying to catch them, and at first it just seems like something we were doing to just try and see them, but it ended up being that we were wildly trying to figure out methodology that would have scientific implications later on, because now it's allowing us to try and find the largest anacondas. And people used to say there's no way this 25 foot, 27 foot, well, there's just that video of the guy swimming with the 20 foot anaconda.

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  24. We walked by it, and he stuck his head out because he thought we'd gone, and then we turned around, and I just got a glimpse of him because I was in the front of the line, and he just went right back into his cave. You guys are not going to touch me. And so, yeah, with the Anacondas, it's been really exciting. And in 2014, JJ and me and Mosen and Pat and Lee, we ended up catching at the time was the record for Eunectus Marinus scientifically measured. It was 18 feet, six inches, 220 pounds, one of the largest female anacondas on record. And since that time, these guys have been continuing to study the species, continuing to just, again, just add a little bit by little bit to the knowledge we have of the species. And studying green anacondas in lowland tropical rainforest, you've seen how hard it is to move, to operate, to navigate in this environment. And so

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  25. They burrow quite a bit. And so these large snakes. Subterranean more than we think. Like, there's times that you'll go with a tracker, you go with a telemetry set, and it'll say, like, you will be over the snake. Snake's underground. Snake has found either a recess under the sides of the stream. You saw it last night where all the fish have their holes under the side of the stream. There was a six foot dwarf came in right in the stream, right where we were standing. He had his cave. He goes under there.

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  26. Use the streams so you could be walking in the forest in a very shallow stream and see a sizable anaconda looking for a meal.

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  27. So the lead authors of that paper, Pat Champagne and Carter Payne, friends of mine, and what we started noticing for me began at that story I told you where we were coming across the stream and we saw the Anaconda had been positioned just below a culpa. And then other people began noticing that Anaconda seemed to always be beneath these culpas where mammals were going to be coming and that contrasted with what we knew about Anacondas because what we understood about Anaconda is that they're purely ambushed predators and they don't pursue their prey. But what we began finding out here and Pat led the process of amazing scientists. He worked with the Cadia University for a long time, worked with us for a long time. And he was one of the first to put a transmitter in an anaconda right around.

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  28. Stupid. Dude, I flicked a wasp off me the other day. It flew back like 12 feet. And in the air corrected and then flew back at my face. It made so many correct, like, Calculations and corrections, and decided to come back and let me know about it.

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  29. With an anaconda, I really think it's the second one. I do think that they're impressive and beautiful and incredibly arcane. I think they're... A very simple system, a very ancient system, and I think that once you hit predation mode, it's going down no matter what. The stupid mosquito, I'm going like this, and every time he just flies around my hand, like I'm a big slow giant, and he just goes around my hand, and then he goes back to the same spot. And I'm like, no. And then he comes right back to the same spot. It's like he's just going, fuck you.

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  30. Yeah, like you can't replicate that. Just like that chimp has those from constantly moving through the canopy, constantly using those arms. Just like if you're, you know, if you see an Olympic athlete or you hug Rogan.

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  31. Is that what's happening with us? You know, like if you go see a Sherpa who's been walking his whole life and pulling, you know, and walking behind musk oxes and lifting things up mountains and breathing clean air and not being in the city versus someone that's just been chowing down at iHop for forty years and never getting off the couch like I imagine it's the same thing that you become what you eat

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  32. Well, yes and no, and I have this question okay. So that whole you are what you eat thing now we one time here had two chickens one of them was a wild chicken like from the farm had walked around its whole life finding insects and the other chicken was like factory raised mm And so we cut the heads off of both of them and started getting ready to cook them. Now the factory raised chicken was like a much higher percentage of fat, had less muscle on its body, with softer tissue, a lighter color, Farm raised chicken had darker, more sinewy muscles, less fat, was clearly a better made machine, and so my question is

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  33. And so it's just awe inspiring. I think it's really, really impressive what animals can do. And we're all, you know, we're all the same sort of makeup for the most part. All the mammals, you know, we all have our skeletons look so similar. We all have like, you know, if you look at like a kangaroo's biceps and chest, it looks so much like a man's. And if same thing goes for a bear or you ever see a naked chimp? Chimps with alopecia.

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  34. Even if it's that you see a dog running, you know, you ever try to outrun a dog and they just zip by you and you go, wow, or you see a horse kick and you go, oh my God, if that hoof hit anyone's head, it'd knock them three states over. And it's like there is muscular power that is so far that, like you said, that explosive that we dream of doing it. Like imagine if like a Muay Thai kickboxer could harness that sort of Cayman power, that smash.

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  35. When an anaconda is wrapped around you and you find yourself in the shocking realization that these could be your last moments breathing, you are confronted with. The vast disparity in power that there is so much power in these animals, so much crushing, deliberate reptilian ancient power that doesn't care. They're just trying to get you to stop. They just want you to stop ticking. And there's nothing you can do. And I find it very awe-inspiring when I encounter that kind of power.

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  36. I know, but my question was how on earth is it physically possible to have this Even something as horrendous as a cayman scales and bones and all the hardest shit in nature, and then not hurt the snake itself. And I had a chemist explain to me that it's probably some sort of mucus system that lines the stomach and neutralizes the acid and keeps it floating in there. But my God, that must be powerful stuff

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  37. And so for Cayman, it's the same thing. They just grab and they wrap around it, and then they have to crush it until there's no response. They'll wait an hour. They'll wait a long time until there's no response from the animal. They'll overpower it. Then they'll reposition, probably yawn a little bit, open their jaw, and then start forcing that entire. Now here's the crazy thing, is that an anaconda has stomach acid capable of digesting an entire crocodile where nothing comes out the other side. And when you see how thick the bony plate of a crocodile skull is, that that can go in the mouth and nothing comes out the other side. That's insane. And so it always made me wonder on a chemistry level how you can have such incredible acid in the stomach that doesn't harm the anaconda itself. And someone said that

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  38. And every breath you take, you go, and you're up against a barrier. And then when you exhale, they go a little tighter and you're never going to get that space back. Your lungs are never going to expand again. And I know this because I've been in that crush before JJ pulled me out of it. And so this pig, the Anaconda had gotten it. And as the pig was thrashing and the anaconda was wrapping around, it had bent it in half. I just heard those vertebrae going

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  39. Swiped the legs, wrapped around it, bent it in half, and then crushed its ribs. And that's what the Anaconda do, whether it's to mammals, to caiman, it's all the same thing, it's grab on, they have six rows of backwards facing teeth. So once they hit you, they're never going to come off. You actually have to go deeper in and then open before you can come out. All those backward facing teeth, so they have an incredible anchor system, and then they use their weight to pull you down to hell, to pull you down into that water, wrap around you, and then start breaking you.

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  40. Not going to get eyes on them today. He was like, it's okay. He's like, we did good. We followed him for a long time. And I was like, cool. And then I was trying to gauge, like, can I drink this stream? And I see a culpa. And a culpa is a salt deposit where animals come to feed because sodium is a deficiency that most herbivores have here. And all of a sudden I just hear. The sound of a wet stick snapping, just that bone crunch. And I look down, and there's about a 16 foot anaconda wrapped around a freshly. Pecory wild boar. And what this anaconda had done was as all the pigs were going across the stream, the anaconda had grabbed it by the jaw,

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  41. One time me and JJ were following a herd of collard pecri, and JJ's teaching me tracking. So we're following the hoof prints through the mud. And we're doing this. And I'm talking about no backpacks, just machetes, bare feet running through the jungle. And we come to this stream and JJ's like, I think we missed him. You know, I think they went. And I'm like, no, no, no. They went here. Look. And not because I'm a great tracker, because I can see a few dozen footprints, hundreds of individual footprints right there. And I'm going, no, no, they just crossed here. And JJ was like, you know what?

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  42. Yeah, so Anacondas have a kind of a three point constriction system where their first thing is anchor. It's not like jiu-jitsu. So the first thing is latch on to you.

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  43. So Anacondas and Cayman occupy the exact same niche. And they're born at almost the exact same size, and unlike most species, they don't have sort of a size range that they're confined to. They start at this big. Baby Caiman are this big. Baby Anacondas are a little longer, but they're thinner and they don't have legs. So it's the same thing in terms of mass. And they're all in the streams or at the edges of lakes or swamps. And so the baby aniconas eat the baby caiman. Baby Caiman can't really take down an anaconda. They're going for little insects and fish. They have quite a small mouth. So they, again, it's in their interest to hide from everything. A bird, a heron. can eat a baby came pop it back. And so they have to survive. But the Anaconda and the Cayman kind of joust as they grow

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  44. They've seen things that there's a great internet joke where they're like, they're like accusing him of being incongruous with modern times. He did nothing to stop slavery. He didn't fight in World War II. Yeah, cancelled the turtle.

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  45. Elephants could be gone? And because we're doing it, and then I just that I remember, I remember looking at the nightlight being blurry because I was crying. I was so upset. And oh, and it was lonesome George, that turtle, the Galapagos toward us where there was one left. And they said, if we just had a female...

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  46. Largest animals on our planet, the black ham and the rhinos, the elephants, all the big, beautiful stuff is becoming less and less. And it almost reminds me in Game of Thrones, they're like, yeah, in the beginning, they're like, yeah, they're used to be dragons. And it was like this memory. And it's like, yeah, we used to have mammoths. And we used to have stellar sea cows that were 16 feet long manatees. And there were things we used to have, the Caspian tiger, that only went extinct in the nineties, our lifetimes. And that's mind-blowing to me. That has haunted me since I'm a child. I remember learning about extinction, and I went, wait, you're telling me that... I remember being a kid and going, By the time I grow up, you're saying that gorillas could be gone.

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  47. And so, like, there again, I just think it's funny because humans were so quickly to go, which snakes are aggressive? Well, there are no aggressive snakes. You know, rhinos can be dangerous. If provoked, otherwise they're peaceful fat grass unicorns. Know like they're really pretty calm. We have these incredible giant animals

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  48. I have rhino friends Black and white rhin And they're all sweethearts. And I mean sweethearts. And I mean when you look at a rhino. It's like a living dinosaur. I know it's a mammal, but somehow it screams dinosaur because it seems like Pleistocenic and... And from another age with the giant horn, and they're so much bigger than you think. Like they're minivan sized animals. Like we're not taller than they are at the shoulder and they have this strange shaped head and the huge horn. And they sit there eating grass all day. So if a rhino is dangerous to a human, it's because the rhino is going Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. Don't hurt my baby. And then they're like, you know what? I'll just kill you. It'll be easier because you're scaring me right now. You're too close to that right now.

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  49. Yeah, there may not be a machine, a war machine equivalent of a crocodile. It would have to have like a Big jaw element to it.

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  50. Ever see the mashup where they put side by side the image of, I think it's a Falcon in flight next to a stealth bomber, and they're almost the exact same design. It's incredible.

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