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  1. “I think that Iowa is, I can only speak from personal experience. For me, it was As if your brain is a house you've lived in your entire life, and it's a big house, it's a mansion, and there's many, many rooms that you didn't even know exist, hidden rooms behind the bookshelves, under the floorboards, rooms that you had no idea were there. And some of them are fantastic, and some of them are terrifying basements. And ayahuasca takes you on a journey through that at its most effective. You sit in front of the shaman with the candlelight, with the sounds of the jungle, and you drink the substance, and after that what happens is The journey is all inside, and the shaman's supposed to be able to guide you through that. But in my experience, you're”

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  2. “Astronomical odds to get to, oh wait, this and this dosed together. And so what the local people believe is that the gods revealed this secret. The jungle to us as a link to the spirit world, and that that's how we know this, because if they didn't remember it from their ancestors, we would have no idea how to get this information from the wild.”

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  3. “I was reading about ayahuasca and they're saying statistically if a bunch, if you put a thousand humans in the Amazon and gave them villages to live in because humans are communalist species, it would take tens and tens of thousands of years or perhaps even centuries before even the possibility. It's like that thing, you know, a bunch of chimps on a keyboard, could they write Hamlet? It's like...”

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  4. “A lot of them then forget the thousands and thousands of years that have gone into creating the medicinal botanical knowledge that the indigenous possess about how to cure ear infections and how to treat illnesses from the medicinal compounds flowing through these trees is lost in a single generation with the modernization.”

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  5. “Was one of the first people that came down and saw that. And then one river is where Wade Davis comes back, I believe, in the 70s and the heartbreak of the book is that all of these incredibly wild places with naked native tribes and these intact belief systems, Wade Davis comes back and a lot of the same places that Shultes went. Now there's missionary schools and they're wearing discarded Nikes and, you know, whatever. I don't know if there's Nikes in the 70s, but like Western stuff has made it in. They've been contacted domesticated, forced into Western society.”

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  6. “In the way he was doing it, in the ethnobotanical, spiritual way of what medicinal compounds are contained in these plants and how do the local indigenous people use and understand them. For example, of 80,000 species of plants in the Amazon rainforest and 400 billion trees in the Amazon rainforest, the statistics of likelihood that through trial and error that humans could discover ayahuasca, it's astronomical that one of these trees and a root when put together allow you to go access the spirit realm and see hallucinogenic shapes and talk to the gods. That's almost enough to inspire spiritual thought itself. The fact that trial and error, it would take like millions of years or something. I forget what the figure is. It's incredible. But Richard Evans,”

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  7. “Indigenous perspective on the world, on creation, on spirituality, and he sort of resigned himself and gave himself fully to that and spent years and years traveling around parts of the Amazon that had hardly been explored and certainly never been explored.”

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  8. “Richard Evans Shultes, I know about him from reading Wade Davis's book, One River, which is this big, hefty, you know, five or six hundred page tome about the Amazon, and it covers two stories. It's Richard Evan Shulty's, and I think it's in the 40s. I think it's like pre-World War II era where he's in the Amazon looking for the blue orchid and the cure for this and that, and he's pressing plants and he's going to these indigenous communities where they still live completely with the forest and they drink ayahuasca and they talk to the gods and he learns about how they believe that the anaconda came down from the Milky Way and swam across the land and created the rivers and sort of he came down and even though he was a Western scientist from Harvard he embraced”

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  9. “Meanwhile, half the world right now is messaging me saying, my DMs are filled with take care of Lex, don't lose Lex, make sure Lex comes back safe. Lex is a national treasure. We love Lex. Make sure he holds a snake. The amount of love that is out there”

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  10. “If we saw a car accident, I feel like if I saw a car accident, like, you know, or if you see a little bit of war, some violence, like it affects you, these people were so comfortable with those things. It was such a normal part of their... The Spartans, the Comanches, like they became so comfortable with war to the point that it became... What they did. Celebrated it”

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  11. “And it's very hard for me to identify with him, but with, for instance, Richard Evans Shulty's from Harvard. That's someone where you go, okay, now we're getting to the point where I can start to understand, I mean, just like the conquistadors, and they tell you the conquistador showed up, you know, they killed, the Spanish killed 2,000 Inca on the first day, and then they marched to this city. They're like, when I hear about this, can you imagine yourself just like slaughtering a bunch of women and children and soldiers and then just like drinking some wine and doing it again tomorrow? I can't actually.”

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  12. “Yes, but we're coming at that with our modern lens because we're coming down here with I've survived how many infections in the jungle where those probably would have killed me before. So, my dead ass opinion of the jungle would have been overwhelming in collective murder, as Herzog says. And so Percy Fawcett was coming down here with this view of it's trying to kill us at all times where we are flying down here and coming out here with our superior medicines and our ability to survive infections. And so it is different for us. It is different. We're coming at this very, very different. But Fawcett. Me was like the last of the real swashbucklers, like the really batshit, crazy explorers that just went out into the dark spaces on the map.”

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  13. “If you really needed to, you could just jump on a came in and eat that because their tails are pretty full of meat. And it's like there's actually unending amounts of food here. And so they were pretty, you know, they were strange bunches of food.”

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  14. “See, the thing is, those guys didn't go with the locals. They came down here with mules and they tried to do it their way. And so he's one of the people that wrote about the green hell. The jungle as the oppressive. Warzone, where there's nothing to eat and everything is killing you and it's I think that that image is so wrong because as you saw last night, if we went out with JJ right now, we would machete fish some fish. We could start a little fire. We'd do it all in shorts. Like to JJ, it's green paradise. And it's intense, but if you know what you're doing, which the local people surely do, well, then just beneath the sand there's turtle eggs that you can eat. And inside the nuts on the ground, there's grubs that you can eat. And”

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  15. “Grows hyperdrive around the trunk of that tree. And then eventually that tree will die and the strangler fig will win because it got a boost up to the top. Whereas these little trees down here, they're going to have to wait their turn. They have to wait until a tree falls, until there's a light gap, and then they have enough food to grow quick. And so this whole thing is an energy economy. Everything is just trying to get sunlight. And so Strangler figs. Yeah, top down trees growing, parasitic top-down octopus trees growing over other giant trees. And you've seen the size of some of the trees here.”

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  16. “All across the tropics, you have strangler figs, and the amazing thing that this species does, it's become a keystone species across the planet. A hyper influence on its ecosystem wherever it is because they produce fruit in the dry season when the rest of the forest is making it hard for animals to find fruit, to find food. And so the bats, the birds, the monkeys, they all go to the strangler fig, they eat the fruit, and the fruit, of course, is just tricking the animals. The plants are tricking the animals into carrying their seeds to another tree. And so they're getting free transportation. Monkey takes a poop on another tree after eating stranglophigs, and then that stranglophig sends out its vines, gets to the ground, and then as soon as it begins sucking up nutrients, out competes that tree for light.”

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  17. “That whole mechanism. Strangler figs. And so strangler figs as you go across the world's ecosystems, that whole belt of, whether you're in rainforests in the Amazon, the Congo, Indonesia.”

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  18. “And I still had to work to catch it because every time I caught it, it would freak out and then it would jump back in the water. And I'm programmed here from years and years of living in the Amazon that Everything can hurt you, so you actually become quite, you know, if a moth lands on you, you flick it because it could be a bullet in it. And so even the fish here, a lot of the fish here have spikes coming out of them. And so even though I know that fish, I know its name, I've eaten them many times. I was holding it when it would twitch with that explosive power just like the Cayman, I would get that fear response and release it. And so that happens three or four times before I finally said this is stupid, even though he's slippery, he hasn't got ahead. I can hold on to him. I put him in my pocket”

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  19. “How nature works. Well, let's explain it because the way the machete hit this fish, it kind of took his just his eyes off and his lower jaw was still there. So it was really just like the brain and the top jaw that came off. And this fish, as the dust cleared in the stream, this fish was. I found it very haunting and very interstellar way. It was just the programming was still there. The brain was gone, and the fish was just still moving, and it was going to die, but it was still swimming, and it looked like a live fish.”

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  20. “But if you are a Guti, a little rodent, or a jaguar, or a deer, you can kind of slip through this stuff. And the deer have developed really small antlers. They can just kind of weave through, load of the ground. And so for us, being these vertical beings walking through the jungle, it really helps to be able to move the sticks that are diagonally opposing your movement at all times. So machete is just a very, very useful tool. It can help you pull thorns out of your body. As you saw last night, we can use it to find food”

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  21. “So, this is the tool that I spend most of my life carrying. This is in my hand for 90% of my time. And in the jungle, you really need a machete. There's so much plant life here that you have to cut your way through. And like a jaguar, an ocelot, a lot of these other animals that are more horizontally based and low to the ground, they can make it like when we got stuck in those bamboo patches and we were just hacking through them and it's dangerous. And there's as you hit the bamboo, it ricochets and there's spikes and then one piece falls and it pulls a train, a vine that has spikes on it and that hits you in the neck and it just, the jungle is savage to humans.”

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  22. “And you know that now. Like you in that tangle, to just take three steps that way, I would immediately be taking on, I mean, I'm not wearing shoes right now. Bullet ants, venomous snakes, spikes through my feet, tripping over myself. I don't have a headlamp. Unbelievable risk right there. Sitting on the edge of tragedy.”

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  23. “Absolutely fucked the jungle. He was like, and there's a great quote where he says without a machete and something, you know, I don't remember exactly the words he used, but he said, without a machete in this environment, you don't last.”

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  24. “Incredible. He was so tough. And then that guy from Shackleton's expedition ended up on one of Fawcett's expeditions and you go, oh, yeah, he's a proven explorer. He's been through the Antarctic and the guy was like, fuck the jungle.”

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  25. “And they said he ran into uncontacted tribes Started goofing off. I think he started dancing and singing. Like the tribes were ready to kill him and he started goofing and like doing a song and a dance and just being ridiculous. And the tribes were like, What now? And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't shoot him yet. That's a funny one. Yeah. And they actually, he kind of like on a human level used humor to save his own life on multiple occasions. The point where he de-escalated the situation was like, Look, we're not here to fight, we're here to, we have a pile of maps. All my guys have berry berry dengue malaria. Like, we're dying out here. If you guys just go on your merry way, we'll go on our merry way and like.”

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  26. “Absolutely not. Like the highway is dangerous enough. I would never risk dying in space. This guy left his home, went out into the jungle out there with horrendous gear compared to the camping gear we have today. No headlamp. And just explored for years on end.”

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  27. “Oh God. I love Shackleton, but I hate the cold, so I can't even read about it. I hate the cold so much. I can't even go there for fun. I think Percy Fawcett and the Amazon was the goat in terms of just sheer, the last of the Victorian era, you know, march forward, go deeper, just stop at nothing, and then eventually... Take such big risks that you never come back, it's hard for me to relate to that kind of exploration because to me, I'm such a softy. I wouldn't want to leave my family behind. I wouldn't want to, like, even if you told me that I could leave Earth and go exploring and I could go touch the moon, I'd be like, nope.”

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  28. “Seems like they were doing so good. They had so much cool shit. But I mean, I was reading anthropological stuff in the Amazon about tribes that, you know, just through their societal structures and through their hunting practices. Didn't really develop practices that worked and kind of bands of people that went extinct before they could turn into larger societies. And there's a lot of people that got it wrong. You know, for every explorer that... That leaves Borneo and arrives in South America, there's probably hundreds more that just die at sea get eaten by sharks. Avalanche, and it's just so fascinating to me that we, all of us really, passed our grandparents, don't really even know where we came from. Do you know who your great great great grandparents are? No.”

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  29. “It seems like every few years they update it and they change it and they say, oh, the guys, no, no, no, no. The guys from 10 years ago, actually my new theory is the best theory. Let's write some books and get me on Letterman. And it seems like there's a new prevailing theory that's really always exciting and edgy about how we got here and where we came from and how we dispersed and maybe even has some political implications. How we should use the Amazon moving forward. Like Amazon was engineered by people, so fuck it. Let's just cut it down.”

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  30. “They say that Easter Island, you know, when I was in college, they were big on telling you that Easter Island, they ruined their environment. The environmental collapse. And that's why there's nobody on Easter Island. It was a cautionary tale. We could ruin our environment. And now it seems like they've changed their mind on that. And then when humans entered North America seems to be hugely up to speculation. And, you know, the Africa spreading that we all spread out of Africa and then the Pleistocene overkill extinction theory. And it's like,”

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  31. “Comparable times to hours, and then he's the Spanish explorer. But either way, there's the tree of life. And it's sort of braids together all of the major religions. And it made me think of that quote that you hear where it says, you know, God, what was it? Christ wasn't a Christian and Buddha wasn't a Buddhist and Muhammad wasn't a Muslim. They were all just teachers who were teaching love. And it's like the fountain sort of says nature is that driving force and it's our job to understand that the game is love. And that's what the main character in the fountain needs to learn is that it's nature that's going to just carry your soul through this thing and that there's so much you don't understand and the epiphany at the end. God, I love that movie. God, I love it.”

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  32. “That's so beautiful. And one of the things that I think I want to see that so much. And one of the things that I love about Arunofsky's work is the fountain. And what I find so beautiful about that is that now here he's saying, okay, we're sending probes out to other worlds, alien civilizations. And in the fountain, it was sort of. I thought he did so beautifully was braid together those three stories where in one I don't remember if he's in a spaceship or if that's supposed to be like his soul the other one he's a scientist and sort of like”

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  33. “See, I can't even get that far. I can't get from rock and sand to cells. That's a huge. I mean, everything around us that has cells is just, it's wild. And I could imagine being on another planet and how incredibly valuable this thing would be, it's impossible to replicate. I'm looking at it through the candlelight right now, and I can see all. This overwhelming pattern that it uses, and it's so beautiful. I just think it's. Yeah, when you imagine the days of the lightning and the volcanoes and the primordial soup, there's a big gap. And it's fascinating to think about, and it's fascinating to see how different people's belief systems. Lead them to different answers there.”

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  34. “That's a weird one because you can imagine Think that what the Earth is 4, 4.5 billion years old, and you can imagine just this. This rock of a planet with rain and storms and elements and iron and granite and just random stuff. It's pretty easy to imagine that. But then I remember that book, I think we all have the same book when we were kids. And they show this fish like animal crawling out of the primordial soup. And it's like, bro, you just missed the most important part author of that book, bro. And I think the first bacteria came in around 3.7 billion years ago. So there's like at least like, you know. Bunch of billion years where there's just nothing, it was just a planet. And then we start seeing fossils of the first bacteria”

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  35. “I think to me life is something that grows and responds to stimuli, like in basic biology 101. And I'm fine with that. I don't need it to be more romantic than that. But I think it's actually comical how... How do you get from a rock to an orangutan And our answer for that is primordial soup. Maybe there was just stuff on earth and then the stuff just got up and started walking. Maybe there was nothing happening and then there was all of a sudden there was a cell and the cell had functioned and then it complexified and then it started reproducing and found male and female parts.”

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  36. “And that's why I think I resonate so much with elephants because I think that we are kind of matriarchal. At least I grew up matriarchal. Like women were the force in my life. My family and most of my friends as families, women kind of have the final say. And I feel like that's the way it is with elephants. You might be bigger and stronger, but it doesn't really account for much if you're not smarter and more emotionally intelligent and you know how to take care of the group.”

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  37. “Right and wrong for an elephant is not the same as what's right and wrong for grizzly bear. Grizzly bear, if you're a male grizzly bear and you see a female with cubs, you just kill those cubs and then you can mate with that, you can mate with her and put your own cubs in there. And it's like, that's a whole different type of ethics.”

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  38. “To be taught, you know, you can't just haul off and break another kid's nose. You got to, there's going to be consequence. Maybe you'll get suspended. Or maybe that kid will get his friends and beat the living shit out of you. Whatever it is, society regulates your behavior and elephants have a very strict, very predictable sort of, like the males teach the males how to run things and the females, which really have the final say. They're matriarchal. They're the ones leading the herd where to go. The males follow where the wise females tell them where to go”

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  39. “Of course. And what I really like is that you said, is there a perception of what's right and wrong? Because elephants have a code of ethics. And so for the simplest example, is that as young males begin to grow, they start developing these tusks. And those tusks are a tool. And they use them. So for Indian elephants, the females don't have tusks and the males do. The females kick the males out of the herd. The females keep all the sisters and the ants and the cousins together, but the males are their own thing. And so here's the thing. If you have, so what you get is these crews of male elephants. And the older males will, you know, this play fighting that goes on around two young males can play fight, but the older males, they'll kick some ass. They'll show them how to behave. They'll explain who gets to talk to the females, who gets to interact, who gets to mate, who gets the best vegetation to eat. And so there's an order established. And so young male elephants have to be taught how to act, just like a teenage human.”

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  40. “The matriarchs backed this girl up against a wall, and she was terrified standing there with her back against the wall, and the elephant just put her trunk out and touched the girl's stomach, and then the other elephants came and they all started touching her stomach, and the ranger there explained to me, just went, she's pregnant. They know she's pregnant. They can smell. They can tell, and they're curious. And all the female elephants came to investigate the pregnant girl. And she had no idea what was going on. And so it's like that stuff, that stuff.”

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  41. “And so you see them do these things. I mean, the most magical thing, and I've spoken about this many times, was that I was walking with a herd of semi-wild elephants that were crossing through a village in India because elephants have lost a lot of their territory because there's so much population in India. And so we're crossing through a village which is very delicate because the matriarchs are leading the babies and there's villagers who have no idea what an elephant is and they're watching the elephants cross.”

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  42. “Put out his ears and he likes paraded around with his tail up, and he was like, Look what I did, destruction. And it's like that's a very relatable type of he was annoyed with the warthograph.”

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  43. “And there was this young male elephant, and he kept turning around to this warthog and just being like, don't make me do it. Now, this elephant did not need to hurt the warthog. And the Warthog was just like, I need a drink, I need a drink, I need a drink, much simpler brain. The elephant was like, you could just tell. He was like, watch this. And he just went and crushed the warthog like it was a big beetle And crushed his pelvis, and the Warthog dragged itself away on its front legs and probably went off to die. But this young elephant”

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  44. “This is the thing. A lot of people, a lot of the when I was reading Friends DeWall's book, a lot of what he was saying was that people give elephants human problems to solve in controlled environments and call it a study on elephant intelligence Whereas if you're watching wild elephants and you're in the wild, you're going to be watching them in a way that they're looking, you've pulled up in a safari vehicle or you've pulled over to the side of the road and the elephants are wary of you, so they're not acting natural. But as soon as you start watching wild elephants truly in the wild and comfortable with your presence, you see how they start caring for their babies or how they can get annoyed. I once watched elephants around a water hole and there's this warthog and I don't know why, but this warthog decided he needed to get in.”

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  45. “It's beautifully weird. I mean, elephants, there's something really impressive and wise about them. There's also beautiful weird that isn't come with so much grandeur. To me, a giraffe is beautifully weird. Yeah. But they're just, you know, they're 18 foot tall camel deer things with giant necks. Strange and they're absolutely serenely beautiful, but they don't have that deep intelligence that elephants have. There's something that elephants have”

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  46. “Yeah, I think whales, I think elephants, I think those higher, you know, no one's suggesting that sardines are somehow need human rights or something, but I think that elephants need representation in governments because they influence their landscape, they engineer their environment, they have emotions, they have families, they have burial rituals, they're so like us. And yet we treat them like they're just oversized cows that we have to be scared of. They're not the same as domesticated livestock. One of the treasures of Earth. I mean, look, let's just say little green men showed up. And they said, well, what's earth? It's like, well, there's mountains, there's rivers. It's like, well, how do I do this? You know, there's mountains, rivers, there's elephants. It's like one of the first things a baby learns is eleph”

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  47. “I actually think that we grew up together. You know, they kind of raised us sibling species that we've inhabited the same epoch in history. And we've relied on the ecosystems that they've created. And I think that they have a deep understanding of humans, elephants. And I think I see them more like... Aliens more like non human beings that we share the earth with. So I don't see it as we're humans and they're animals. I actually see human elephants as sort of a separate society along with humans as one of the dominant species on the planet.”

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  48. “I have to kill you to keep safe? And it's just they're so tough. And they have dirt on their back and they have flower petals and the little hair, you realize they have hair all over their body and the power to throw a car over, to flip it. Just one of the most impressive animals on Earth. And I think that I've gotten really good at interacting with wild elephants in a way that's respectful to them. And I think that when an elephant allows you to be in its space, it's because you're showing submissiveness and respect for the elephant space. And they're so intelligent that they're communicating with seismic vibrations through the earth that they have a matriarchal society that they can remember the maps of their ancestors that they know how to find water, that they can solve problems there.”

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  49. “I mean, my favorite, absolute favorite animal to interact with is 100% elephants, which there's no elephants here, but I've been incredibly privileged to spend some time with elephants both in India and in Africa I think that they're so smart and so complex that we do a really bad job of understanding what an elephant really is. I think that most children probably think of elephants as something kind of cuddly. Most adults probably think of having a similar misconception of them. When you see an elephant, when you see a 12 foot tall bull elephant with bone coming out of its face with huge tusks and those giant, it's an octopus-faced butterfly-eared behemoth that's a survival machine, and it'll look at you and just go,”

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  50. “Something kind of terrifying about that image to me. Like when I hold that every now and then at night, you hold that skull and it just reminds you that you're terribly.”

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