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“A lot. I always had a lot of love and help from many people. That's why I succeed. I never got here by myself. I had a lot of people who loved me, believed in me, and helped me get to be here today.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably the most important thing. That's the basic of everything, right? Love brings the best of us. If we had more love and compassion from the other person, I think we'll be more evolved species. The world would be much better placed than it is now.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Only way to succeed is failing. There is no other way. That's what people have to understand. Without failing, there is no success.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Need to get better because I don't want to be in that position ever again. So when I fight, if I'm better, if I tapped him, there's no question. I don't need to wait for the referee to decide those points or no points if his interpretation, that made me better. Because I was even more determined to be better. In my mind, I have to tap everybody else. Winning is not enough.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hurts. I mean, it's not a pleasant thing to fail. I mean, you feel terrible to think, you know, when I lost any tournament was a good thing. You know, when thinking when I was getting beat up at the gym over and over again was a good thing when I was getting there and got smashed by all the good guys. I think I liked it. Well, I hate it. But it's my resilience that make me carry on until I succeed. I think I like to get tapped. I'm the most competitive, one of the most competitive persons you know. I hate. Lose, but I accept. I mean, I just need to get better. Every single time I lose in the championship, I hate never scream. No one never saw me screaming, shouting that, you know, I got robbed. You know, I should have won the referee screwed me over. I mean, it's okay. It happened. Shit happens.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“until you succeed. And then you're going to be the most proud of yourself. Like then it'll be priceless. Then we'll change the world.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, he can recover much. Exactly. What's the point of not trying? You should try. You'll lose everything. Doesn't matter. What emerits? Lose at everything. It does matter, you will teach you resilience. Try harder. Go after. You know, it's don't live a normal life because otherwise what we're here for.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They want everybody to be like them because imagine if everybody around you suddenly are not afraid and everyone is trying and you look at yourself in the mirror and say I was too scared. I've never tried. So you feel really bad about yourself. So it's easier to have people around you that think exactly like you than otherwise. So that reflects a lot on the kids. It's society almost like pressed them down to be like everybody else. to have a normal life, normal job. It's, you know, don't take risk because you can't lose at all. I mean, that's the worst thing you can tell everybody. Take all the risks, lose it all a few times. That's how you're going to build things”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think most people are afraid to even try. So you can call them cowards for not trying because You are a coward for not trying, not putting yourself a risk, right? I would say a big part of society are cowards for never trying, never pursuing what they really want. There is a weight, a pressure everyone, most people, a lot of people, I'll say around you, that because they were afraid to try, they don't incentivize people to do so because”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's harder. It is harder. But as a kid, it's harder to deal with that because, I mean, to go against adults, especially parents, telling you otherwise, like the amount of strength you need is gigantic. I don't even know how much strength you need because that was not my case. So I can understand what you have to go through with the force of your parents telling you otherwise. how much you want, it will dictate how far you're going to go, where you're going to go. So it's, you know, if you can break through that, you get nowhere. It's that simple.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, one, I've used Muhammad Ali as a great example. Look at his belief. Look at how much he believed himself before he was Muhammad Ali. Look at the determination he had, the weight, the confidence he had fighting, even on his loss. Never George Foreman, not one person in the world thought he was going to win that fight by himself. He never doubted himself. Everybody else did. He won over. Odds against. So it's, I mean, when you look at people like that, you don't have to be a boxer to try to follow his example.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was just very natural for me. Said, you know, you can surround yourself with great people. That is extremely important. Don't surround yourself with failures because they're not going to push you to. They don't know what it is, how to get there. I mean, everybody knows, but when you surround yourself with winners, you know, you know what it took them to get there. Use them as an example”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Determination is the most important thing. Need to know where you're going to get there. So you need to have a go, whatever that goal is. Like you need to set that goal for yourself so you know where you want to go. To have the determination to get there. Be sure that you will fail many times. Like you cannot let your failures brings you down because you will fail many times. Everybody does.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because that's the only way to prove you better And I never fought to win tournaments. That was never my goal. That was the consequence of me trying to be the best. Like I don't care how many titles I have. I care about I need to beat all my opponents and not win because win is not enough. I have to submit them. That's the only way to prove I'm the best, to submit them. If I win by advantage or a point, That means I was better than them that day. That does not mean I'm better than them. Take God mountains submit you, there is zero questions who's the best. Like, there's nothing you can say about it if I foot sweep you, you put your butt on the floor to get an advantage with carry on fighting and I win means nothing. Even me, some better”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Everything I was since I was very young, I always fought against my opponent in the referee. If there was ever in my whole life since I was a kid, there was ever a doubt to my opponent. Always, always. That was just something that I had to do my whole life.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I just went back to the gym next week and said, I need to get better. Every time I lost, I'm like, I need to get better because I need to choke them out. I need to submit them because, you know, we buy points. As a black belt, I have very, very little lost. I would say, I mean, I don't like to sound like a crime baby, but I'll say most of those loss was very, very controversial.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you say the one that will have the. Biggest chance of staying there is the lion because you're just thinner. Is smaller than a tiger, I guess. I think tigers are bigger.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Aggression, you know, the real naked choke translating to Portuguese is K the Lion. So everything so as a kid, I always thought that maybe if I get behind a lion, the real naked choke, which, you know, in Portuguese, he says Mata Leon. So Mata Leon is killed the lion. So I always thought that that's the only way to kill a lion or to, you know, if you fight against a lion, go behind him, put the real naked choke. I think you put him to sleep. The name Matalon. Like kill the lion. Someone came up with the name. Why”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then he comes how you practice, how you train, starting on that position and just saying, let's go. And the moment that we disengage from that position, we go back. That's when you really learn. Because everything that you do wrong, you're going to go back there and you're going to try again. Try again, try again. And the repetition, it will teach you have a feeling of timing when to go if there's other combinations which he always has to go with it.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mechanics is much more important there. Yeah, but it's completely different for Jiu Jitsu because, let's say from Jujitsu, like the Amlock, for example, we use that as an example. Let's see from the closed card. Even my close guard, before I go for the Amlock, I need to have a set of grips. Let's see I have your call in your arm, right? And then when you're drilling, I'm going to grab your arm. I'm going to grab your collar and I'm going to drill my body until I can apply the arm lock and finish. I can do that a thousand times. Okay, now we're fighting. We start with the grip. The moment that I initiate the amlock attack, it will defend the amlock will not work. So it's not the one movement that will get me to attack the arm. There's a combination of other things that I need to do. I need to feel about your weight. I need to get you close to me. There's so many other things involved that I need to feel that only comes with the fully.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is because Is the movement, the timing is the precision of the movement. Has to be perfectly because it's one movement. Dennis, you learn about the timing of the movement when you're fighting, but doing fighting, you only need to know the time because your body movement is exactly the same when you drill.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“After that week drilling five hours a day, the arm lock, you still have no clue how to apply the arm lock against a resisting opponent. No clue, zero. So, you don't know the movement, you know the mechanic, which is, you know, like how long you have to drill and how that doesn't matter. It varies of the person. You can drill for a month. After that month is over, you should understand how the mechanic works. You still have no clue how to apply the movement against a resistant opponent. You will never ever know how until you apply with a fully resisting opponent. That's the only way to know to really learn a movement.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, Amelok. Let's see Amlock. Okay, let's say you've been drilling for a week Five hours a day. You should be an expert with the mechanics. But now, how are you going to carry on drilling with no resistance?”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You have to understand moving. It's the guy's resistance. Like, he's not, I'm not going to grab you and apply the movement. I need to grab you and feel when is the right time to do. He only comes with movement. If you're not fully resistant, How would I know”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which one? I don't know Say What are you going to achieve by drilling with no resistance after you learn the mechanics? Amount.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can drill as many times. I'm not limiting how much you drill. Drill as long as you had to. I mean, it doesn't matter how long.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The drilling with no resistance is not going to teach you anything because you will never know how to apply the movement with resistance. So it's pointless to carry on drilling after you learn the mechanics.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So you apply as many times as you have to until you know the mechanic of the moves, until you can apply the mechanics. The moment that you know how to apply it, there's no more point in drilling. Now you have to practice. Now you have to practice with resistance. Of course, you're not going to practice with the guy fully resisting. The guy is better than you because he's not going to give you a chance to practice that move. But you have to practice with resistance. So where does drilling comes on that is Most of people, you know, they flow drill and everything. I think whatever you do, you condition in your body to do something. You repeat the same move over and over again. Your body is conditioning to apply that movement or the technique. Drilling is not realistic because the other person is not resisting. You know, the flow movement or whatever. After you go beyond when you already know the mechanism.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do not like drilling, but I'll tell you why. I Fighting is a mechanic, right? So it's very important to drill a move until you learn the mechanic. Of course, it's important. If someone wants to teach an AMLOC, you want to practice that movement to learn the mechanic of it, but the guy's not resisting, so it's easy to apply it, right?”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You see that clearly when they are in a bad position, let's say side mount or mount, like a beginner, he would never relax on those positions. The moment that you say go, they like trying to push you out and explode. There's no relaxation in work on the difference. It's like, no, it's out and go until I have zero to give, until I'm exhausted, my arms cannot move.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's not. I'll say because he's not a position that you under pressure, that if you don't know you're in trouble, you're not going to be in trouble not to know the close guard. You're just going to go straight for open guard. Not a problem”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know, yes, but like for how long at some point in your life that you might try something, see if you like it. There's some point in your life that you might, okay, let me try close guard. You might not like it now, maybe in two, three years from now.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is still bad. I mean, it's not bad. I mean, nothing is bad. I mean, as a hobbist, you start late. I mean, it doesn't matter how far you're going to get as long as you enjoy it. Just train as much as you can. If it's twice a week, twice a week it is. You'll be limited how good you will be training twice a week. Of course. Then the guy that trains twice a day. The more you train, the better you get.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, you just need to train as much as you can, not five, seven days a week because you're going to get injured. I mean, two, three times a week to start is the best way to initiate your jujitsu journey and practice the same thing over and over again. When they don't work, it's just because you're not doing well, not because you have to learn something else.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's why learning things as an adult is much harder than as a child. Like, it's very hard. And as an adult, it's like to get to the highest level, it's not possible. Because you will never relax the way you should.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Try to absorb as much technique as you can and try to be as relaxed as you can. Don't Don't desperately try to Fight so Like learn Mosul.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. And back then, like for the first, I'll say maybe three years, maybe four, I went to Brazil for like two months before every major tournament. I say, you know, I'd move away from the school and I really focus. So I was really well prepared with my juda and everything else, shopping up my skills. And then going to Brazil to train with like really high level people. That way I would manage it to compete in the highest level.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You watch the tournaments. Yeah, Ray Stevens is a. It was Silver Medalists in the Olympics. He won European, he won a lot.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But the one thing that helped me extremely living in England, in London, was Tranny Judo at the Buraqua in London. That helped me massively because it gave me the motivation to learn something new because by then at the Buruqua, the stand-up was, I'm sure today it is too, but by then was even higher than it is today. Like there was some very high level judo guys training there. And I mean the first time I went there, my stand up was terrible compared to theirs. I mean, it was bad, but compared to them was terrible. So I was getting thrown like a child. And that motivates me to keep coming back and get better. So that made my jujitsu much stronger. I became, my base got better, my top game improved. My pressure game improved.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Over and over again, you attack them with the same thing over and over again. They didn't know what's coming, they were blocked, they will develop a defense over that. Way better than most other high level black”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then that goes back to how you train. You can be very tough. Very tough, it'll make you terrible defense because you're not going to practice your weakness. So your weakness is still going to be terrible. You're going to have the best guardian in the world. Impossible to pass. The day people pass your guard, you're nothing. Like your guard is high the highest level, but your side control difference or not. Your mouth difference or not. So some purple bells they practice the mount way more than that black belt did. So naturally the difference is better.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because, like a lot of the black belts even World Championship, they get to the black belt, they're really good in what they do, let's say, in the guard on top or in the bottom position, but their difference are not very, very few people high level have a very good defense because they don't practice.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Purple belt makes it very hard for you to skip side control. Don't have to be a world champ or black belt. He's holding you, it can be very hard.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you practice with people lower level than you, you cannot. There's nothing to learn from them. You can learn things in practice with them, but I would say very complex things on them. It is not the best. I sharpen up all my skills. So that would not really improve everything that I already knew to a higher level.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So when I first moved to London, I was 20 years old. I opened my school And I had nobody to train with. I had one guy that was teaching with me a black belt. It was good. And that's it. Brawler was mihu to the same, he moved to England the same time as I did, but he was in Birmingham. So we did go together maybe twice a week when we were preparing for something. If not, then not very often, as often as we could, but let's say not that often. And I had just caller-bell students. There was no one high level. There was no one world champion in any bell to train. Then you need to create a scenario that simulates, that can simulate a realistic. So I think on that aspect, you know, when people ask, why do I have such a basic game? I think that also influenced me sharpen up all my skills when I moved there because.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's mobility. It's like it's, I think, you don't see any ways like 160 kilometers, like, you know, pounds, I don't know, 270 pounds of a lot of fat. You need a bit of mobility. And you would play against you.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So when we're saying something that you develop over the years of practice over and over again, going back to the efficiency of the amount of back, by experience of attacking people, People always had a much higher chance of escaping from the back than from my So I feel if I mount and you get both my hands on your neck, you cannot escape. If my hands are deep, it's over. I don't remember anyone escaping, but I do remember if my hands are deep on your collar or even real naked choke, it's still a hassle, like it's not clean.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll say Jack Kettle Tayam, for that perspective of unbalancing balancing the person. Can be, yeah, because you have control of the person's neck. The collar, you know, the jack and moose. So for the purpose of off-balancing the person, I would agree with George.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, there is bias, but see very little. The whole time they tried to Intimidate the other one, like winning the fight by the size.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Trying to intimidating because they don't want to get hurt. So they try to size each other up. You see the whole fighting is sizing each other up. There's a lot of pushing and the fur is so thick so the claws doesn't really damage much.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source