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“Not that Because I cannot fake anything else at that point. Because I would have to change my position maybe to fake an arm lock. Then I have to move out from that. So then I will lose the control”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That would be very basic because there are not that many different ways, maybe one, two. I just took one. Any other is not as strong because it's about getting a strong grip on your collar. I mean, the thunny goes inside. Getting a strong grip on the call as long as this is just holding and feeling strong.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not necess Because if he's on the floor, my body collapse over you There's no place for my hand for me to work on your neck. So I need some space between us so I don't completely realize.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Head is very close to the floor when you've tried to bridge, you know, my forehead would touch the floor, that would be used as a hand.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But when I'm there, if I get the, because they are bridging, you know, they try and, I'm there. I'm not using their hand to pose.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's two ways either you go four fingers inside, which is the hardest because the moment that your two hands are defending. Be blocking the way. And I cannot clear an attack two hands against one. So I go thumb in. I go behind the ear. So my grip goes because for you to defend, you need to get there. And when you get there, you elevate your elbow, you suppose the arm lock.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your ailbook cannot get inside my leg because that means I'm in a very low amount. Then I cannot attack because I cannot ignore that. Because the moment that I attack that will, you will stop pushing my leg to push me out.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Way out is to obviously defend themselves and prevent the firsthand to get deep. And I would say the best thing that they could do is try to change my positioning on the mount in a way that pushed me to a very low mount. Try to change the way I'm dominating you, not to be get me off the high mount pretty much.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not as you put in the first hand in. The moment that I position myself just prior to attempt the second hand, I think the way my body is positioned, the way I'm collapsing with my weight and they feel is like this. This is terrible.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I go as deep as I can, so the first hand, because the second hand is the hardest, I have to compensate the first hand to be as deep as I can. I cannot get the first hand in deep, I won't try the second. I need that first hand deep, then I go for the second.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's less of an art because it's easier. Say most times I get my first hand in is when you try and move. You're trying to escape, you're pushing. I gave the first hand in as an opportunity.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And how high you sit, how tall your upper body goes. And then the biggest challenge comes as you try in the second hand. For the choke, that's the biggest challenge, the second hand. Because you already have one hand. Now you are trying the second hand and... From one of my hand is in defending yourself, have two hands. One hand is already on one side. This side is getting attacked. You have two hands blocking that. I have one hand. There's no help for that hand. I cannot remove anything. That's the biggest challenge. Getting one hand getting past two and not getting rollover.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's trying to attack the neck and putting one hand in the collar, you're priving yourself that hand to peson on the floor. Now, you're vulnerable to get bridged, to get rolled over. Because if your hands are free trying to roll you over, you stopped. The moment they put your hand in the person's collar, now you have to be very careful with your body positioning. Very careful.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If I'm being heavy, I cannot attack. I have to choose. I can be heavy just to penalize, you know, just to. Pandemic take the energy out to make them suffer. The moment that I decide to attack, I can only behave him if I'm sitting up straight. That's when all my weight can drops down, if I'm high, then I'm sitting on your chest and on your solar plexus. That's the worst position to be seated at on the person because that's where he breathed. So you're in a high mount, sitting up straight. That's when you can, I can be very heavy. I can make people feel my weight, be very uncomfortable, but I'm not in a position to attack. The moment that I want to attack, my body has to lean forward. I have to approach the neck or the arms. The moment that I do that, my weight comes off, my hips, it goes to my knees the way it is off you.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They panicked, they exposed. Is the most exposure you have because the arms arms are free. You cannot touch them. His head is too high. There's nothing he can do. His legs won't get you anywhere. He might touch your lower back. It's like nothing. You most expose being in the mouth. Rarely you hold inside control a thousand times the amount of me having to look up for your fist come down on me. I hug you. You cannot hurt me. Okay, hold me, but I'm hugging you. If I hug you tight, what can you do against me?”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“His head is here. You're gonna hurt him here. But the time you're doing that, but then he has his arms free. And if he turns towards your legs, then he's away from your arms. You don't even have the perfect angle. I mean, it is a good position. You can hit, you can dominate, but it's not the best position to be over the other person. He can kneel you in the head. Same time, you punch him, then there's a knee coming to your head.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, but he couldn't escape. Which other position would she be able to hold that boy? In the back, he would roll it out. He couldn't come out from underneath her. She's kids. There is no other most dominant position that you can pin the other person.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nobody should be training for a year and a half. So she has an idea what mount is, but I mean, in terms of our skills, I don't never taught her them out. She had lessons at the academy like any other kid.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, she transferred. She's been training for, I'll say a year and a half. She's not much. I mean, she's a nine year old daughter, a girl over a boy”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The other day I watched my nine year old daughter. In a friend's house. There's a whole bunch of kids that they play in. And when I looked, She's mounting a boy her age, her size. He cannot escape.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Finally back until you're under the other person, you think being under is the most dominant position can be over another person.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Makes all sense if you think what's forgetting, forget Jujutsu. Like you've never trained. What's the one position, the most dominant position you can get over another human being? One, the most for you which one it is, like the most dominant position that you can get over another human being.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a combination because first you have to put your body in a very strong position that you don't require your hands to. Hold them out. So the choke is first because I cannot use my hands on the floor to stop you escaping. So, if I handle that the way I position myself, I have to do it in a way that don't require my hands for balance.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is. It's many tiny details because it's the whole movement itself, it's the perception from beginning to end. Like every step of that movement, it's important and precise. So it's, you know, you miss one detail on the way, it collapsed. So when I started with the black belt, the black belt has control over the whole movement. He's thinking beginning and end. So he goes straight to your neck, regardless he cannot read the other person if it's time to let go, if it's the time to go for a neck, should I be pushing here before I get my hand in? Is this the right time to go deep or should I deal with this first before the second hand”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have to call us. I put my both hands on your callus, and when I squeeze, you press your necks, it blocks the venue. You go to sleep. So you treat people with your hands in the wrist, you put them, you grab the hollow, so you get the wrists around people's neck and you squeeze.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How many ways can you block? You can put your arm in every single angle. We have both arms, you can bridge. So it's dealing with all that is the complexity of the position. But that goes for everything. Every single move. My strong moves, I would say. It took me years developing them. Years. So it's, and you're going to tell me that's basic, so go try and do it. What the other person is defending, that's the thing, because most of the things that I do, I've been doing them for years. And they know that I'm going to do and I can still get it most of the times. That's the hardest. It's when they know what's coming, AQU can still do it.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When I say years, years after I was a black belt, I was able to choke people out with a cross-color choking them out effectively, years after I got my black belt. So that's something that you learn first day, first week. So I can't teach you. It makes no difference. You know the theory until you applied them. You help you, of course, the more details you learn, the more tools you have to practice, but it's still very complex. Because it's not about the move itself. It's about how can you control the movement of the other person. He's resisting, you're blocking, you cannot predict what he would do, and he's doing a whole bunch of moves to block you. Every single move you do a step of the way because it's a progression of move from beginning to end till I apply the choke. It's a progression of move. And there's not one way to get that. There's many ways because”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not basic, he's not old school. I think people, they just don't see that. It's extremely complex. In a way that people they cannot copy. I teach people, I can't teach you the cross-color joke. But the one thing that people they don't realize. Is not the move, you need to practice the move until you learn. The practice over and over again. Like, it took me years.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'd never done anything special because I'm in a gym training equally with everybody else. So I've never did anything on the side different than anybody else. I was in the school training the exact the same way as everybody else.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think so. No, I think he was honest because I think he's the only one who could see that. So I think that's a compliment.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It comes super Because I generate a lot of strength. I can create. I put myself in the right angles so that I can be strong. I'm not strong. And the only person who I listen to saying that is Comprito, one guy that I fought, Hodrugu Madeiros. I fought him a few times. And he's the only one that I heard saying about me that's like, no, Roger's not strong. He's technical and he's can create strength, but he's not strong.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Getting smashed by everybody. People my age, I was chubby, I was physically weak. I mean, I'm tall, but physically, I'm not physically strong. I'm normally strong from my size, but physically, if you want to measure strength, I'm weak because, you know, we can measure strength, living weight. I'm weak. I don't much lighter than me. Everybody, my weight lives heavier weight.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he's just over and over again, over and over again. It's just training, training, training. And I mean, how many times I lost? I have no clue.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then you're just bragging. Sure. Because one thing is to say it, but the other one is to do it. So you say that once or very few times, but now you have to do it sane is not helping you getting there.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course. I mean, if you start shouting, then you're just being silly. Then it's not what you really want. Then you saying that for another reasons, if you say it over and over again, because you shouldn't. I mean, why?”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No one ever told me that because that was not something that I used to say all the time. I maybe say it just very, very few times.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Everybody, my mom, my dad, I mean, no one saw, no one in my family thought I was going to be here today. Nobody. Because I just started late. I've never had any start that people, oh, that kid's gonna be really good. I was a chubby kid that didn't barely train. I mean, people used to look at me, he's just another grease. Know”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the one I got there, I was training a little bit that before, but I just 14, 15. But when I got there, there was one of, that was one of the most competitive, one of the biggest jujitsu schools at the time. There were so many high-level world champions, competitors in every single belt. And I've kind of joined in with that. And I've carried on. I don't remember when, but I remember looking and saying, I'm going to be the best in the world. But I was at the bottom of the stairs. You know, no one really believed me. I didn't shout to disguise, but I told a few people. I'm like, I'm going to be the best. And that's, I think I was just losing, but I've never, ever divert from that mission, I would say.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it was him, my uncle Helen, and my uncle Crawling. They both used to live very close to each other. They used to have their own schools close to each other. So I was with both. And I stayed there for almost a year. I was the youngest in the academy. There was some blue, purple bells, normal guy, but they're very competing training ahead of me. And I just joined the group of training. I didn't compete while I was there because there was no competition that then. And I wasn't really ready, but it's not about competing. It's more about the training. And I start training every day, start improving. And year after that, when I came back to Rio, I was already on a mission. I was like, I love this. I'm just carry on training every day with my uncle Carlos. Carlos Gracie Jr., Gracie Baha.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In terms of having a school teaching, training, you know, living that jujitsu lifestyle, what agrees it means to be. And I've loved it. I was out of shape. My uncle was incentivizing me to lose weight, to train. But, you know, training, why? You know, it's like, you've got a shape. You need to diet. So I used to run every day. I was eating super well. When I started changing. So when I got back to Ria, I was super motivated to follow up, carry on. And he invited me to go back there to live with him. But I couldn't, it was too soon to change schools and everything. My mom said, no, but maybe next year if you want to go, you can. So I kept that in my mind. Next year. I moved to the south to live with him. I was 15.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Than me. It was, I think it's four years, four years older. So I was 14, I was already 18, 17, 18. Purple belt competitor. And I think that was the first time in my life that I felt what it means to be a great sea.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think it was a day, like a moment, because For many years, I wasn't really training much as a child. I've done a bit of, I used to train and then stop, done a bit of judo, never stay away from it much, but until, you know, it. From 10 to 14, I barely trained Jujitsu much. I used to, there was no Gracie school near where I used to live. And there was a Judo school. I used to go twice a week. Going to introduce Tormet. I lost in five seconds, left crying Guy, you pulled me in five seconds, anyway I was 14. I went to the south of Brazil to see my uncle Helen to spend summer holidays. I was there for like four weeks. And I want to go there. My cousin Hollis will live in with him. Holly is like.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is difficult to say because that was a decision, I think. Like, why did I believe I could be? I can't tell you that because I don't know.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, not the greatest of all time because I never really thought about that, but I thought I'm going to be the best in the world when I sucked, when I sucked.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I always knew from before I got to a black belt that I can be great because my train with the best in the world. For many years and I used to see my progression with then everybody else. So I knew I was getting somewhere. I knew I could be the best. And that was also my goal since very, very young. And I always believed that I could be. And that over the years that kept telling me over and over again I'm getting better and better faster than everybody else. So it's like I just need to carry on with what I'm doing.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Gladiator. I mean, there are a few others that I've always watched the day before because the day before used to do nothing. I just want to be a home in bed watching TV, like saving energy, stretching by myself. So it's like it's, I just want to save energy. I don't waste my energy going out, going around. So, you know, those are the movies that I always like to watch, kind of try to bring some, you know, hyper. Excitement is like, you know, I'm getting ready to war tomorrow, so I'm like, let me watch some movies that brought there, you know, some that warrior spirit.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say the last few years I've been crying more than before for some reason. I don't know why. Like silly movies, like nothing suddenly brings tears to my eyes.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Out of England. No, I never get that because that's just silly. It's like if I would have done that, I would not be able to control my emotions prior to Yeah, reflection”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, of course. Suddenly, when you go into any situation that might be stressful, like an important meeting, whatever it is, it's like how much would you worry about that before? Worry is not going to help you anywhere. It's the opposite, just going to make you more nervous, your heart accelerate, your abilities to think clearly is going to be damaged by that. So it's like the more calm, the more relaxed you are. the better you can think of.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's like, why am I feeling this? What different will it make? So you kind of shed in that thought out of your mind because you don't want to feel adrenaline, your heart accelerating. It's not going to add you anything. So it's, you know, it's the practice also that I think helped me to shut that off my mind.”
2022-12-03 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #343 – Roger Gracie: Greatest Jiu Jitsu Competitor of All Time · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source