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Sally Kohn

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“Yeah, and then about five minutes later, she remembered who I was and that we'd met and had like this nice conversation and talked about hobbies and whatever and called back and profusely apologized that she'd forgotten my name when we met and whatever and felt so badly she booked me on it. Right, okay.”
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“And she didn't remember. It was very clear that she did not remember me. Had no idea who I was, had no idea how I'd gotten her number, was incredibly rude and dismissive to me and hung up on me.”
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“I was super uncomfortable with, and I'd never, you know, and had to learn. Then I call up my nerve up and I call her up to picture I forget the topic or whatever.”
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“So we all went in, we got makeup, and we sat in the actual set and did practice interviews that then were taped and we watched back. And my practice interview was actually with Allison Camarada, who. Since has become a close friend. That was how we first met. And I met in the green room, someone who was helping organize this weekend training, who was a booker for Sean Hamley. So few weeks later, you know, they trained us how to go pitch ourselves and whatever and all the stuff that I was super.”
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“So I started at Jerry's sort of encouragement and with the support of Carol Jenkins at the time was running the Women's Media Center. She then left and Jammu Green ran the Women's Media Center and they ran a training which they still do, by the way, which is incredibly valuable and important called Progressive Women's Voices where they train women. And you learn how to get your thoughts into sound bites and also like, where do you look and how do you sit and stuff that's very, very important. In addition to that and some other trainings I did. But that training, because Jammu had a relationship with Fox News, one of the things we did was we did a practice day at Fox News.”
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“That's what I wanted to do. You really want to know the story? Yes, I do. I want to understand your time there. Okay, thank you. But I mean, like, nobody, this is a deep tracks here. All right, that's it.”
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“I realized, well, I realized I liked it. I realized I was good at it. I realized my community, the activist, organizing community I came from, was supportive, me in that role, and that it was a lot like organizing. It was just instead of... Know 50 people in a church basement, I had millions of people on television, but it's the same idea of translating ideas and activating people and engaging people and helping them connect them to their hopes and dreams and ideas. And so it stuck, at least so far.”
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“There's a very, I've come to find out. And to be honest, initially, I was like, all right, I get it. She doesn't take no. And I'll go, this will be interesting. I could kind of tell from my organizing work that the media was becoming more important in political engagement. And there was also space opening up for not just reporters and experts and academics and whatever, but not just pundits, but actual regular people to be in. So I thought, okay, cool, I'll learn something, and I'll go back and be an organizer and I'll just be like a more media savvy organizer and I can spread those skills. And then I realized I liked it. I realized I liked it.”
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“And then she and her Oprah started oxygen, so she was not the kind of person who takes no for an answer. She physically dragged me across the room, introduced me to Carol Jenkins, legend and New York broadcasting, and said she's going to train you. I'm going to support you. I'm going to mentor you. I'm going to write. And she was, you know, as they say, as good as her words.”
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“And she grabbed my arm. She actually grabbed my arm kind of hard, and she said, no, you're going to do this and you're going to be good at it. And that woman was Geraldine Labor.”
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“It's the same difference. Listen, we're all pets in a cog and a wheel in a right. Why not? No, we're not. Except for you. I'm sorry. But let me talk about that. I'm trying to figure out how you got there. Yeah, so in 2009, I was speaking at a conference, and a woman comes up to me afterwards and says, we have to get you on television. And I looked at her and I kind of laughed and I said, no, we don't because that's not what I do. Like my ethos and the whole worldview I've been raised on the antithesis of being public as an organizer, as a good organizer, you're supposed to be behind the scenes and you are helping the people who are actually affected by the issues and living these issues them be in the spotlight. So I said no. turned to walk away”
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“They do it on CNN, too. It's the same difference. Listen, we're all pets in a cog and a wheel in a right. Why not? No, we're not. Except for you. I'm sorry. But let me talk about that. I'm trying to figure out how you got there.”
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“How did you become Pet liberal. Come on, that's what they do. That's really cute. Well, let's get into that. No, no, no, no. All right. So in 2009, I was speaking”
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“Right, okay. So you do that. And then how did you get to cable? You were on, how did you become the pet liberal of Fox? Pet liberal. Come on, that's what they do. That's really cute. Well, let's get into that. No, no, no, that's right.”
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“We're on the stage telling their stories and asking questions of the presidential candidates. Hadn't been done before. So sort of that was my adjacency, no, way before that. That was how I was campaign sort of adjacent. Organizations that are involved in voter registration, voter turnout, but in a sort of more general good for democracy.”
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“Are very adjacent. I was usually on the other side. So, for instance, in 2008, my gosh, you're testing my history here. I like to know. No, no, no. This is lovely. In 2008, for instance, I helped to organize what was then the first ever grassroots political forum where regular people”
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“Gos Oh um because I believe in the voice and leadership of others others right and that's what I as an organizer right yeah that's what organizing is all about you are there to amplify support and lift up people who are most directly affected by”
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“Pre, I mean, that's lots of topics, lots of different topics. No, no, no. No, I started in LGBT rights, did criminal justice reform. As I said, criminal justice reform and healthcare, immigrant rights, economic justice issues.”
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“This country So, counties that were rural. Help them. Right. So that was 10 years. She was working that for 10 years. 15. 15. And so that was through Obama before that. It had to have been before. Pre-I mean that's push. Lots of topics, lots of different topics. But you specialize in healthcare? No? No, no.”
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“Was that one of them? I did. I mean, so I worked on healthcare reform, getting rural communities to engage. And there were a lot of we were trying to pass Obamacare in this country. A lot of the opposition came from so-called blue dog Democrat counties, so counties that were rural, white, conservative, but represented by Democrats, and those constituents were not wanted healthcare policy, had messed up defective, inefficient, and expensive healthcare, and wanted improvements but weren't being activated. So one of the things I did was work with a number. So I didn't run things myself. What I did was I worked with grassroots organizations in communities and cities and states around the country and supported their agendas, their goals, and helped them.”
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“Where folks wanted to work on pig factory pollution issues, and whether it was helping them think about their media strategy, training them to do spokesperson training so that when they were going and doing public events, they were better spokespeople thinking about their goals and strategy and how they were getting from point A to point B and what their tactics were.”
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“I mean, I went into graduate school two in the middle there, but it took lots of forms. I worked for a national organizations throughout my organizing career. So what I would literally do is go into rural Iowa.”
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“Yeah, I'm interested in small pee politics. I'm interested. I was sort of raised by parents. Who instilled in me a value of making a difference in giving back. And then when I came out in high school, I'd say that sort of. Amped that into a more sort of focus on justice and structural change and structural, right? And it made me want to actually not just be a good volunteer on the side, but actually work to change the injustices that change.”
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“I went to George Washington University because I don't know. I thought it would be fun to be kind of politics adjacent. Interesting.”
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“Wind changes at the local and state and national level, so I worked on immigration reform, healthcare policy, criminal justice reform. And that was your background.”
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“Oh, you used me now. Thank you for having me in your right. You're Silicon Valley. Thank you for having me in your red chair. No problem. Thank you. There's an example every day. So I started out as an organizer. So I spent the first 15 years of my career traveling around the country, helping people in communities who wanted to make changes, do what they wanted to do, connect with others.”
2018-04-30 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Kohn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, you are. I'm kind of clashing. A red chair. It's the red chair. Oh, you used me so you know. Thank you for having me. You're in your Silicon Valley. Thank you for having me in your red chair. No problem. Thank you. So it's going to be a hot seat. We're going to talk about some controversy on your book around someone I know while at Minitausau and others. But we're going to first talk a little bit about the book, and then I do want to get into that because it goes the heart of what your book is about in a lot of ways, how we misunderstand and misrepresent people online and how that happens. And today is a very good example with Kanye West and Donald Trump and all kinds of stuff. There's an example every day. Well, it's getting worse, I think, in a lot of ways. So let's talk a little bit about you. Let's go into how you got up to this book. Now, you started off as an activist, or what's your background?”
2018-04-30 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Kohn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hi, I'm Kara Swisher, Executive Editor of Recode. You may know me as someone who hates the haters and enjoys doing it, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today in the red chair is Sally Cohn, a political commentator for CNN. She's the author of a new book called The Opposite of Hate, a field guide to repairing our humanity. Sally, welcome to Rico Decode.”
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