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David Fravor

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first: 2020-09-08
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“First test thing, and they were limited, and Elon found this like 400 acre thing, I think it's about 400 acres, down by Waco, Tex And he's like, I go, how? He goes, He goes, dude. I worked. He goes, I worked with, he goes, because he's done government contract. He goes, there's government contract. And then there's working at SpaceX with Elon money. And that's what he refers to it as is Elon money where it was like, I'll throw them and he would throw the money at it and make it happen. And it's, I'm talking this fast. I mean, he talks about he has a great story about this. I mean, this is Elon, but this is how fast you can do in the private sector vice, the government where there's the bureaucracy is. They had a company that was basically a tool and die machine shop that did a lot of their high-precision parts for the rockets.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if the government scientists, if you're on a government contract, says, no, that's not the requirements, we're not paying for that. We want you to do this, you're kind of controlled. Or when Elon does it, his company, they can do whatever the hell they want to do because they have no bounds. The only bounds they have is the liability if it doesn't work and it lands on something. So what do you do? You go out to quadriline and you test it and if it crashes and it lands in the ocean, hey, we clean it up, no big deal. We lost some money, but we'll move on. Money makes the world go round contrary to what everyone thinks, but there's a lot of money that's sitting around that you can do a lot of really cool stuff with. And I don't know. I mean, I'll guarantee that, what is it, Blue Origin? Isn't that Amazon? You know, that they're doing some cool stuff because they have funny. And I joke with the guy I know that worked at SpaceX. And he was funny because they were building.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're not tied to the government. So when you work a government contract, the government writes, they tell you what they want, and then they work with you on the requirements. And they usually have an end in mean. You know, they have an idea that this is what I want it to be. Where if you go to like SpaceX where they come up with, why don't we just land these things on a pad and reuse them?”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“These are the best that we have. And I'd say, well, no, that's the best that we know we have. But there's probably people out there that don't want to work. There's brilliant minds that don't want to do anything with defense because they just disagree with what it does. So they go to another path. They can do something else.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I understand, but they never stop them from free thought and developing that. It's just we really don't want this out there. Okay, so I understand that. I totally understand that. But if Bill and Melinda want to do this and go, hey, we want to do this and they're going to work with Bezos and they're going to work with Elon and we're going to think about it. There's a significant amount of money that could be available to R&D. And I'm not talking just science like this. I'm talking medical research and all this. But then you go, well, who gets it? Because now you're competing against the companies that actually do it. You go, is that, well, are they the greatest minds? I'd say, you know, we have a tendency to go”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can look beyond the conflict of having to have classification. You can do what you want. It's just like, you know, we classify how to do the whole nuclear, you know, how to create critical mass. But there's really smart high school kids that have figured out mathematically and they do their science project, and then the government comes in and says, hey, we got to classify your government because we just don't want this out in the public domain.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bezos' ex wife actually donated a huge chunk of her half into Gates Foundation. So, I mean, what's the Gates Foundation worth these days? You know, and these are guys, you know, Brilliant. I mean, some of the greatest minds that we have to go, you know, what are they doing? Because they have the ability, it's a non profit. They can go, hey, I want to fund this. I want to fund this research.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is but some of it's due to funding. The US government has deep pockets, you know. Some of this new technology that you develop for an open source unless, and this goes back to the original conversation, we now, there's enough money in the private sector that individuals control. Bezos, I'm not talking Amazon, I'm talking Jeff Bezos worth over $100 billion. He has the ability to do stuff. I'll tell you what, the Gates Foundation with between Bill Gates and his wife and Warren Buffett and some of the other money, because I think...”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But you don't have to release all the specs. And you don't have to put everything in open source, but that's a problem when we go to universities. If we want to go do work with MIT and you want to partner with MIT and your defense company and you want to partner, you guys have a rule that if you create it, then it can be open source because the university owns it and we are an institution of learning where the defense side might go, we don't really want that published in a paper in scientific america or break.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When that got out that we were developing it, the Soviet Union developed the MiG-25, literally a high-altitude interceptor to counter that bomber. And they built an entire fleet of MiG-25s, right? We built three XB-70s and we scrapped the program, right? Because now you go, well, the technology is cool. We proved it, but now it becomes obsolete. So it's not even worth building a whole fleet of these things. It's a chess game. We do something, they do something, we do something, they do something. And we do something, and then they counter it. You got to figure out how to defeat it. So you go, oh, we'll build something. So the more we keep quiet, especially from a defense standpoint, the better. Actually, personally, I think we talk too much. And I think the military and the DoD is starting to see that we're too open. You announced, hey, we're building this because there's a budget line and we live in a free society.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The US in the 60s developed a bomber. It was a Mach 3 compression lift bomber called the XB70. There were three of them built. Three of them ever built. It was a like 60,000-foot three. It was an incredible airplane when you see it. There's actually the last one remaining is in Dayton, Ohio at the museum. It would go, the wingtips would fold down. It looks like a Concorde, but it's way faster.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just stupid. There are reasons that we have things that we don't just let out to the public because if we do, as soon as you do let someone know that you have something, they immediately try and counter it. And perfect example”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think they know how Especially in this topic, it's been hidden for so many years. And I don't think, because I don't buy off on the conspiracy stuff. I just think that when it comes in, like I said, the government has a right to classify stuff. They classify everything because they don't know. You have something you don't know what it is. You don't know. So we just go, well, it must be top secret and let's put it in a vault. You know, it's kind of like the Indiana Jones where they take the arc and they put it in the giant Army warehouse. We don't even know what we have. But I also believe that, you know, and I'll say this openly, I don't think that the American people need to know everything. I think there's a reason that stuff is classified for the protection of this country. And I totally believe in that. So, you know, I was joking with Joe when he was talking about a storm area 51 stuff. I'm like, you know, that's probably the worst idea you could possibly have is to just storm a military installation.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Secretly doing it ourselves to see who can come up with a solution first. That's the problem because we have this inherent thing of power and technology like that is power. It would literally change the game of the way the world operates from not just a transportation or mankind, but from a military aspect it's got huge.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They could have won. They could have won, but someone was smart enough to not finish the equation when they knew they had the answer. It's literally what it comes down to. Someone was smart enough to realize if that got into the hands of the Nazis, that it would be the end. And that's a tough call to do that knowing that you have the answer and you can't solve the problem because it will go into the wrong hand. And that's kind of the fear when you look at this, you go, okay, so if we do this, if we put it out there, we've got this technology. If we don't work on it kind of international space station like where we're all going to work on it together in a, you know, like Antarctica is really supposed to be treaty free from any weapons or anything we're supposed. We got the international thing down there. We're all going to work together. If you did it in a in the confines of that and you could control the flow in and out because what you don't want is someone stealing information and getting it back to where and countries are notorious to do this. Hey, we're doing it internationally, but we're...”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're thinking like a scientist. Now, let me shift to let me think like a country. So we have country A, B, and C. And you can look at the nuclear arms race. So we know that Germany was really close. We know that Russia was getting pretty close. We just won the race and we were the first ones with it. And still to this day.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because remember, if you reveal someone else's research, you can taint their beliefs. They'll start to sway in that direction. So you go, I'm not going to tell you anything. I'm going to give you this thing. And now you tell me what you think. And as they progress, if they get stuck on a problem that maybe Bob and someone else solved earlier, you can go, hey, what about this? You don't have to tell them where it came from. What about this? And now they can leapfrog and they get another two steps closer to the final answer. And then we get stuck by our evolution of technology. Shelve”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You go, hey, good, project's over, and the contract, you shelf it, and you wait another 10 years. And you wait another 10 years until technology and our abilities and our research advances more, and then you go find new people to bring in that are experts in that field and go, hey, we want you to work on this thing. And here's what we know about it so far. Or you don't tell them anything.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So then, and let's just say Bob doesn't come out and tell anyone, he works on it until he gets to the point where he's stagnated. He's at a wall. You go, I can't do it. So sometimes the best thing is to bring in a fresh mind. So you go find someone else who's in a propulsion, you bring in, and they work. They can't figure it out. Or they get to the point where kind of back to the Einstein theory where, hey, I've got all these theories on how it works, but we don't have the technology. We haven't advanced enough to actually do what we need to do. We still have to advance technology more. So then what do you do? You shelve it.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just say this is, I'm just talking, this is Dave's theory. I have custody of this thing from a technology that I don't understand. And I know it's a propulsion system. So now I got to figure it out, right? So who are you going to go to, right? You go find someone. So you go, wait, here's a guy who at the time was working at Los Alamos, which they have proven, who is big into propulsion. He designs all this. He builds a shit in his garage. Hey, he's super smart. Why don't we bring him in? So you hire him on a contract and you go, hey, we're going to brief you into a program. And he goes and works on wherever he says he worked. You know, that's not important. But you get access to the technology to try and figure it out. And then you go, well, you know, Bob comes out and says, you know, we're figuring out these things, but there's a point where our technology isn't advanced enough for us to figure the whole thing out.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So let's talk in theory. So, I'm going to go back to Bob because I've talked about Bob. So Bob is a propulsion guy. Bob has a bicycle with a rocket motor. He built the rocket car. So he did that. So if you are trying to figure out a propulsion system.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is the only country that you have the ability to do what you want to do. It's just don't be lazy. And I have stories of people that came over here and started with nothing. And they're living the American dream. And they'll tell you and they didn't get it because of, you know, like you, you came over here from Russia. You get no minority status or anything else. You get you're a white Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, whatever your religion, but you come over here. I kind of knew that from the last, but you come over here. You basically have made yourself. You're educated. You're working at literally the top research university in the world. To be honest,”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“CIA was kind of funding him to do stuff. How he got hooked up with Pablo, but they put cameras on his airplane, and when Reagan had come out and said, Here's pictures, we have proof that they're running these drugs. It didn't take Pablo long to figure out those pictures were taken from inside of the plane of this guy he had been working with, and that guy ends up dead. Does that make sense? So you classify to protect the source, you classify to protect the technology because if the technology would get out, it could be grave damage or there's levels, depending on if it's a secret or top secret. There are levels of damage that can be done to the US government and our well-being as a country. And we owe it to this because we're all Americans. You know, to me, no matter what some people will say even ends this country, this is the greatest country on the planet.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, well, here's exactly how. So for classified information, the government is the people that classify it. So I can't go, I can't look at something and go, oh my God, this avion bottle is now top secret. I don't have the authority, the ability, or anyone to do that. That's up to the government. And I agree with that because I worked for the government for 24 years in my life. So I understand that. But now you go, there's reason stuff is classified, okay? And it has to do with sometimes information is classified by how it was obtained. It's just like the mob. If I have a spy and I'm a mobster and you're the counter-mobster, but I have a guy on the inside that's feeding me information, I can't do it. And a perfect example is if you've ever seen the, it's the Tom Cruise movie, what is it, Air America or whatever, but he plays the guy in Louisiana who was hauling drugs for Pablo Escobar and he ended up getting a cargo plane and the government decided.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Me, that's an important oath. You hold to, you know, and this is kind of where people have issues with Bob. So if, you know, and I leave it to you to determine if you believe Bob or not, I'll tell you, Bob is a straightforward, very sane, normal, super smart guy. Yes. There is the other side that says, well, should he have come out and talked to those who owe Clarence who are true to the government, you would say he should have never spoke. He was under an oath to not say anything, but he did. If you ask Bob, why did you say something his answer was, I understand there's an oath, but I felt that the technology could benefit all of mankind and it shouldn't be locked away. And I'll leave if you believe Bob, that's kind of what Bob says.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, is there a chance that a foreign government actually possesses or our government or someone in the world on the globe of the seven plus billion people has something that is not from this world? And I'm not talking a meteor, but something that was manufactured in some way that allowed transport or observation. Could be a drone, could be a foreign drone, you know, like Voyager flies around and does all that stuff. And we got stuff that just went past Pluto that's out in the Kuiper belt. You know, there's stuff out there floating around. And what about ours that's going to crash into Jupiter eventually or whatever? Because we've had stuff crash into planets. So if that's the case, you would think something is out there that we have something that we can't explain. And according to Lou, there's stuff that we can't explain. And I would assume that Lou, who ran ATIP, has seen stuff that he can't openly talk about. Because, you know, because I had a clearance. When you have a clearance, you sign your name. You're bound to that.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was recovered. And I don't care if it's of intact system or you got pieces of it of a metal that we can't explain or some biological matter, to say the least. It could be intact or it couldn't. But the odds of that now are starting to go down that could never happen. And I'm not talking just the United States. I'm talking the”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say this. I think it's very highly possible. Because if you go, if you just look at all the sightings, and let's go just look at Project Bluebook. It was what, forget how many thousands of sightings, there's a percentage, it's like 10 or 15% they still can't explain. Like our Tic Tac is one of them. Basically, the government has come out and said, we don't know what that was. Okay, so if you go, okay, of that 15% that we don't know, and of these thousands are still that 15% makes up a pretty big number, what are the chances that not one of them crashed somewhere on the globe?”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So you go, Now, what if something is from someplace else? Just let's just go off the grid and go, let's say there are little green men. What are their intents? Lou asked me this when we were talking to Lou Elizano, and he said, What do you think they were here for? I said, I don't know. He goes, I go, they were observing. They'd come down, they'd hang out, and he goes, what if they were prepping the battlefield? What if they were observing to figure out what we do? And he goes, that's interesting. The other theory is maybe there's a more advanced civilization out here and they just check in on us because the threat to an advanced civilization is when a civilization that's inferior to them actually develops enough and fast enough to become equal or above. Because now they become the threatened type. So you watch us grow until we start getting too much. You know, it's kind of like you go, well, because they always have a tendency to hang out around nuclear, right? And you go, well, you know, if this is an advanced civilization, I'm going to go science fiction kind of comical. They come down and watch us and go look at the crazy upright monkeys now have developed the atom bomb. Let's hope they don't destroy themselves.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We take what we want. And that's what happened. I mean, we literally defuncted civilizations because that's how we are. You know, humans are, we're an interesting group.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, it's that same type of thing. So, but anytime we have a tendency to show up, you're actually, you think about you're an alien. If I go to a different area, if I just, you know, go back 500 years where, you know, or a thousand years where travel, we weren't traveling across oceans at the time. Well, we don't think we were, but the Vikings probably were because we had limited, you know, we had to have supplies and the boats weren't as big. We had to build them by hand. We didn't have power tools and all that stuff. So you go, if you show up someplace, like when the conquistadors from Spain came over into South America and you've got, you know, the natives, you're actually an alien. And then you look at what typically happens when aliens show up in a human alien world, you know, and when I say alien, I mean you are not from that area. The other.”
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“It's like anywhere in the world. So, you know, go back, let's go back way back, way back in the time machine, you know, there were people kind of scattered around the globe. You know, in Europe's a perfect example. Why does France speak French? And then right next to them, Spanish, Spain speaks Spanish, and then you kind of jump over and Germans or German and the Polish people. Everyone speaks a different language because if you look at the way the terrain kind of subdivide the original people that were there, you know, thousands of years ago, they speak differently. It'd be like the US, but see, the US is different. We all speak English because what happened? We came over and we started on the East Coast and we migrated west. We won't get into the what happened. And, you know, because the Native Americans all spoke different languages.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it's the only time I've ever spoken publicly in front of a large audience about this because it was just fun and I got asked and Jeremy and George Nappan went the year before. So I went with Bob Lazar. So I got to hang out with Bob and his wife and his wife and my wife. And we all hung out kind of talking not about UFO stuff, but just getting to know each other as people because. You know, Bob's like me, the stuff that he talks about is not the center of his life, if anything, it ruined his life You know, he's just a really, really smart guy that's just like the rest of us trying to get through life. That's”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I said, and then I got paid to go to the McMinnville Fest because my wife and I got to go because it was just looked like fun because the whole town gets involved.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's exactly right. So, and we're the integration when a battle group deploys, especially when you go to the Middle East for what we were doing, the air power is the key. We take our airport with us, we can park it anywhere we want, and we can do what we need to do. So we're kind of key players. So when you get the theory that, oh, all these men in suits showed up. So the capna ship never said anything to me, the admiral never said anything to me. The people on his staff that I was friends with never said anything to me, the other COs that I talk to on a daily basis never said anything to me, and no one ever came and talked to me and I'm the guy that chased it. So in all the theories and all the debunkers and all the stories, because I don't know if people think they're going to get rich on this because I made a big donut on this. I can tell you what I got paid for. I got paid to go out and spend 21 hours of my day going to LA and do a five-minute talk for someone. I'm like, and it wasn't for the talk because I'll talk for free because you're not paying me.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If people need to talk to me, so you got to remember you got the captain of the ship, you got the air wing commander, and you got the admiral. Those are the top three. And you got the CEO of the Princeton, who is a major command guy. And that's really your big, major command. And then everything else is you got all the squadrons, which are 05 command, and you got the small boys that are out there, which is 05 command. So in the hierarchy, as far as rank and responsibility of what's going on, I'm pretty much in the top 20 with all my peers, and then I've got obviously the captain and the admiral, right? And then he's got some post command guys on his staff that we were friends with.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So you go, okay, so I'm out here. I got my squadron. I'm running it. I see this thing. You know, we catch shit for it. I have a squadron to run. I have the tic-tac was over here. And although an extraordinary event, I have 17 aircrew and 300 sailors that I'm responsible for, right? Their well-being, making sure they're fed, making sure they're happy, they're birthing, you know, and I'm working with my master chief and I'm working with my XON. And we're going through all this stuff. I don't have a lot of time to worry about the tic-tac”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If it was a you don't have to say Russia or China, just say if there was another country's emblem on the side of this thing that we saw and said, oh, it belonged to them, then it's a big deal. So here's what's going on. So we're literally in the middle of workups and it was a joint workup. Normally we go out for a month, go come back, do stuff, go out for a month. This was a two-month at-sea period where we actually had to beg for them to let us when the ship pulled in at Thanksgiving so we could run home up to the Central Valley, have Thanksgiving with our family, and then run back down and do this, okay? You know, and I had just taken over, I had had the squadron for a month So I'm a brand new CO. I'm the most junior”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, if you were to put a Chinese flag on the side of it or a Russian flag on the side of it, and I said, yeah, it had a big Russian flag on the side of it, dude, then it would have got a lot of attention. It would have gone high order.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, throwing shit out in the middle of where people are doing exercises is The most preposterous thing that I've heard. Is it possible? Yes, is it more really is it is it is it?”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly right. So you go, you know, it's you know, it's not the Dr. Evil scientist that's going to throw shit out there to get there's control and there's reasons that we do it Because a lot of stuff, especially when you get to you build something in theory, you model it, you go, hey, it looks like it's going to work. You get funding. You build it. You test it some more. You bench test it. Like an airplane with digital flight controls before it even leaves the ground, they've got things over the pedostatic system that are changing what the airplane thinks is the airspeed talking to it. And it's probably up on jack so the gear up. So it doesn't, it thinks it's flying. It doesn't know. It's sitting on jack stands and they're just changing the pressure on the pedostatic system so they can actually make the flight controls move and they can get all the data back to go hey looks like it's going to work and then there's wind there's a bunch of stuff that they do”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And threw this guy under the bus. So that's a test environment because you don't know what's going to happen. Because someone said, well, when we chased the tic-tac, well, it could have been some secret government thing. Well, secret government things typically just don't come out and test to where there's going to be.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tests are normally done in controlled environments. Just it's like any test, a lab test or whatever. When you take things out into the real world, you know, you're still going to test it in an area where if something goes wrong. So when they started, and we'll go back to Elon, so my friend that worked there, they had a rocket go off. They were out in Kwajaline. And when the rocket went up, a fuel line ruptured in the rocket and it ran out of fuel before it got all the way up and it came falling back down. Well, when you're out on an atoll in the Pacific, if it's going up above you, the worst case is going to land on you. So what you're worried about, where else is it going to land? And it actually crashed next to the atoll and, you know, Elon wasn't happy.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, because So let's talk about so let's say you've got this cool new toy. You call it a cool new toy. You typically don't take your cool new toy out into an area where the cool new toy could get damaged or what if the airplane would have actually hit your cool new toy and you got two people that are ejecting or dead and you got a 80 million dollar airplane that's now in the bottom of the Atlantic”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was done? I mean, what are you going to do? Can you go catch one? Go out with a giant net and try and bag one. You don't know because they've seen them. They've picked them up like hovering on radar. And then all of a sudden they're traveling at really high rates of speed. You know, What are you going to do”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's the most dangerous. You're right. The biggest frustration is when you do that and you go, okay, so this thing passed between two airplanes. I think it was within like 100 feet or. Something like that of the airplane and almost hit it. So what they do is they come back and go, Hey, I had a near midair. Would you have a near midair with? This floating beach ball with this cube inside of it. And you go, huh? So they send out a Notam again and they do what's called a hazard report that says, hey, there's these objects out there, we almost hit one, right? And that gets sent off to the Naval Safety Center.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“An airplane because there were two there's the gimbal thing that's a pretty big object There's also, they talk about it looks like a cube that's inside of a sphere.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“which I know Ryan has come out and talked about it, but when you see it, you go, you know, if you take it in context, because you go, oh, it's just the video. Well, if you take the video with a radar going, no, there's actually other things out there because there's at least 60 people that have seen these things on radar off the vacabes. It actually became, I called a buddy of mine who was running the wing at the time, the fighter wing. I said, dude, what are you guys doing about this? He goes, well, we got a notam out, which is a notice to airmen, which means there's these objects out there in the warning area. So anyone can fly a Cessna through the warning area. It's all the warning area tells you that there's high military traffic and training out here. It's probably best not to be here, but there's nothing that prohibits you from going in there. So these things have the right wherever they're from or whatever they are, you know, because people are like, oh, they're balloons. Well, balloons float. Balloons don't sit in 70 knots of wind and stay in the same location. They all say they have.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, the other thing that you see when you talk to them is so they're on their radar, there's an object that they identify as their number one priority or their launch and steering. So when they designate that, that's where the targeting pod's going to look. That's what you get on the gimbal video. There's five other, I think it's five. They're kind of in a V, you know, like a geese would fly that are out in front of it, and they're actually coming. They're out in front of it, and they actually turn on the radar and go the other way while they're filming the gimbal video.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The gimbal video, the gimbal video, both of them the Go Fast and the Gimbal were shot by the same person And they were in each other's wedding. So that's how well they know each other. What you don't see is so the airplane's air flying still super hornets, but they have the APG 79, which is the new phased array radar that's made by Raytheon. Things incredible. Okay. Usually, if it's out there and it sees it, it's real. So at first they thought they were ghost tracks when they started. Someone goes, Oh, it's an airplane. No, if an airplane does this, it's eventually going to start to change aspect because it's in a turn. This thing doesn't change aspect.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source